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  1. After a conversation with one of your faction members on Discord PM I am reassured to know that you will not change your conduct. However, I will humour you a little with a reply, and to clarify precisely what went down. Besides, we haven't had a good drama for a while, even the most recent Zoner stuff is underwhelming.
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  3. [quote]Please provide us evidence of this 4 v 1? In the records i've got, it was a 2 v 1 to start of with, the GRI killed one of those making it a 1 v 1. [/quote]
  4. [quote]The GRI in question we dealt with the day before, in a similar situation, but Maquis where out numbered [/quote]
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  6. So first you justify your conduct by saying that you "only" outnumbered me 2v1 in the beginning (ignoring the fact that out of the four Maquis ships involved two were Pliers which is an important fact I will get to in a moment) and you don't find anything strange about that. Subsequently, you are outraged at the fact that it took 4 GRI to kill 3 Maquis (despite the fact that it was "only" 2v2 in the beginning).
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  8. [quote]skilled, and the GRI would happily shield run, hug the bases[/quote]
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  10. Then we approach the fact that you fly Pliers.
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  12. Now, I wouldn't really mind if my opponent flew a superior ship of the same class as I do, but the issue with the Plier is that alone it's an extremely good ship, with Cap6 armour and double missile it becomes busted and with holes in its hitbox and -40 reverse speed is broken and overpowered. If you can honestly claim that GRI "outskill" you while flying Lynxes (which are below-average fighters) or even Sunbeams (which are marginally better, although still mediocre in duels) then I'm sorry but you're wrong.
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  14. Unfortunately for you, the only hope for our pilots in that fight was waiting for you to run out of ammo which is a standard tactic against overpowered, ammo-based weapons and in my view, entirely excuses base hugging.
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  16. [quote]To the point one Plier had no guns what so ever, and it took 4 GRI to kill it, and they where very aware of that, and do you see any Maquis going to a GRI feedback thread? [/quote]
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  18. Because leveling criticism against GRI in that situation is absolutely unjustified as only two GRI| ships were inovlved in that fight, in contrast with four tagged [MQS] ships who were implicated in the situation that started this entire exchange.
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  20. [quote]But when does fairplay come into play? You can never make things fair, 1 v 1 it is down to the players ability, ship class and expierence and much more.[/quote]
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  22. You can very easily make all snub fights, even those where the enemy is vastly outnumbered, fun by not engaging all at once but instead going for a series of 1v1 duels. This is one of the most basic unwritten rules of fun Discovery snub pvp. Unfortunately you chose to all out attack with 4 people so it's quite clear you understand the meaning of "gank" very well and choose not to subscribe to this idea.
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  24. Unfortunately for you again, many other factions that I interacted with over the years had the gentleman spirit to uphold that idea and in cases of overwhelming numerical advantage you give the underdog an ability to fight their way through. After all, defeating five enemies, even if they are slightly worse in pvp skill than you, is no mean feat and remains a fond memory [url=https://imgur.com/a/g5fHU]even to this day[/url].
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  26. [quote]DSAce Logs, Images, Video's, something to back up you're allegation. [/quote]
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  28. Sure. While group chat logs I got from one of the Maquis pilots involved aren't the most authoritative evidence, they show your unhinged attitude towards that fight.
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  30. [quote][09.12.2018 12:22:35] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: Wiat Hunter needs help!
  31. [09.12.2018 12:22:47] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: GRI
  32. [09.12.2018 12:22:50] Tristan.Allais: Leqoc is Protege I think
  33. [09.12.2018 12:22:56] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: c5
  34. [09.12.2018 12:22:57] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: omw
  35. [09.12.2018 12:23:27] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: I will dock and switch to my Plier
  36. [09.12.2018 12:23:37] [MQS]Hunter: ITS SUNBEAM
  37. [09.12.2018 12:23:42] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: He is flying a Sunbea,
  38. [09.12.2018 12:23:43] Tristan.Allais: he'll meme
  39. [09.12.2018 12:23:51] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: Haris
  40. [09.12.2018 12:23:52] [MQS]R.Christophe: What's your status
  41. [09.12.2018 12:23:53] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: C5
  42. [09.12.2018 12:23:54] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: Picardyu
  43. [09.12.2018 12:24:00] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: I am almost there
  44. [09.12.2018 12:24:03] Death: Thief was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
  45. [09.12.2018 12:24:03] [MQS]R.Christophe: What
  46. [09.12.2018 12:24:05] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: GRI pewing one of us
  47. [09.12.2018 12:24:07] [MQS]Jean-Paul.Courbet.: Get there now!
  48. [09.12.2018 12:24:08] Death: Tirion.Fordring was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
  49. [09.12.2018 12:24:11] [MQS]R.Christophe: COMIN!
  50. [09.12.2018 12:24:37] [MQS]R.Christophe: I'm goin to mine him so hard
  51. [09.12.2018 12:25:14] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Still in C5?
  52. [09.12.2018 12:25:17] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: ye
  53. [09.12.2018 12:25:28] Death: Starkillone was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
  54. [09.12.2018 12:25:34] [MQS]R.Christophe: Hunter pewing him?
  55. [09.12.2018 12:25:41] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Yes
  56. [09.12.2018 12:25:47] [MQS]R.Christophe: h
  57. [09.12.2018 12:25:48] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Could be Corile
  58. [09.12.2018 12:25:50] Tristan.Allais: it is
  59. [09.12.2018 12:25:57] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Meme him then
  60. [09.12.2018 12:26:04] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Like he meme'd us yesterday
  61. [09.12.2018 12:26:12] [MQS]R.Christophe: Yup
  62. [09.12.2018 12:26:14] [MQS]R.Christophe: Hug base and gank
  63. [09.12.2018 12:26:18] [MQS]JP.Courbet: You get what you deserve
  64. [09.12.2018 12:26:21] [MQS]R.Christophe: I will engage and I don't care
  65. [09.12.2018 12:26:30] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Yes
  66. [09.12.2018 12:26:31] Death: [MQS]Henry.Pelletier was put out of action by GRI|Francois,Lecocq (Mine).
  67. [09.12.2018 12:26:33] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: OUCH
  68. [09.12.2018 12:26:36] [MQS]R.Christophe: Fuck
  69. [09.12.2018 12:26:39] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Hunter engage him
  70. [09.12.2018 12:26:46] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: That's what happens when you suck :(
  71. [09.12.2018 12:26:48] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: sorry!
  72. [09.12.2018 12:26:48] [MQS]R.Christophe: and don't die
  73. [09.12.2018 12:26:56] [MQS]R.Christophe: until I come
  74. [09.12.2018 12:26:58] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Not you're fault Henry this guy is good
  75. [09.12.2018 12:27:09] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: aight
  76. [09.12.2018 12:27:13] [MQS]Henry.Pelletier: i'll see you around
  77. [09.12.2018 12:27:19] Death: Konky was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
  78. [09.12.2018 12:27:53] Death: Jack_Wilsonbob suffered a self-inflicted catastrophic decompression.
  79. [09.12.2018 12:28:16] Tristan.Allais: gl guys
  80. [09.12.2018 12:28:17] Tristan.Allais: btw
  81. [09.12.2018 12:28:43] [MQS]Hunter: going to restock
  82. [09.12.2018 12:28:51] Tristan.Allais: jeez
  83. [09.12.2018 12:29:01] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Base hugging AGAIN
  84. [09.12.2018 12:29:33] [MQS]JP.Courbet: CD
  85. [09.12.2018 12:31:09] [MQS]R.Christophe: NO
  86. [09.12.2018 12:31:25] [MQS]R.Christophe: Cruising
  87. [09.12.2018 12:31:28] Death: Konky was put out of action by a hostile vessel.
  88. [09.12.2018 12:31:42] [MQS]R.Christophe: TRADE LANE!
  89. [09.12.2018 12:31:58] [MQS]R.Christophe: lol
  90. [09.12.2018 12:32:02] [MQS]JP.Courbet: He is dry nearly
  91. [09.12.2018 12:32:07] [MQS]R.Christophe: Hurry
  92. [09.12.2018 12:32:15] [MQS]JP.Courbet: WTf his Cd's are OP too
  93. [09.12.2018 12:32:17] [MQS]R.Christophe: Dont shoot TL
  94. [09.12.2018 12:32:17] Tip: The ''Laws of Sirius'', are a collection of in-roleplay laws for each house. They mention things such as contraband, punishments and fines and are enforceable by lawful IDed ships.
  95. [09.12.2018 12:32:22] [MQS]R.Christophe: WE CANT GET HIM
  96. [09.12.2018 12:33:11] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Shot the lane
  97. [09.12.2018 12:33:17] [MQS]JP.Courbet: The LANE!
  98. [09.12.2018 12:33:29] Tristan.Allais: I'm out for now
  99. [09.12.2018 12:33:42] [MQS]JP.Courbet: He is dry
  100. [09.12.2018 12:33:52] Death: GRI|Francois,Lecocq was put out of action by [MQS]JP.Courbet (Missile/Torpedo).
  101. [09.12.2018 12:33:53] 2018-12-09 12:33:53 SMT Traffic control alert: Bruchpilot has requested to dock
  102. [09.12.2018 12:33:55] [MQS]JP.Courbet: Noob[/quote]
  103.  
  104. Also here's the video of our supposed "gank" on your pilots.
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  106. [video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pIKUZi4bHE[/video]
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  108. I hope you will rethink your conduct because as far as I'm concerned if you continue, your faction will be dead before it even had a chance to start, for the reasons Alley outlined.
  109.  
  110. [color=#FF6600][b]Removed few unnecessary lines.
  111. ~Dino[/b][/color]
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