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sockcooker: 2nas, OK, I suggest you get 300 bats, and save up at least 200K energy (but not more than half the max), then respec to warp+bat+meta

Mar 18 - 4:49PM2nascar4: how much on each?

Mar 18 - 4:49PMsockcooker: depends if your hatcheries are making larva faster than your mutagen. By the time you've saved up about 200K energy - a couple of days - they probably are, so...

Mar 18 - 4:50PMsockcooker: probably an even split, 1/3 on each of those 3

Mar 18 - 4:50PMsockcooker: assuming your hatcheries are out-producing the unspent muta by that time. Which I think they will be

Mar 18 - 4:50PM2nascar4: Half of my max energy is 214k

Mar 18 - 4:50PMsockcooker: yeah

Mar 18 - 4:50PMsockcooker: "save up at least 200K energy (but not more than half the max),"

Mar 18 - 4:51PM2nascar4: got expansion 123 and hatchery 66

Mar 18 - 4:51PMsockcooker: so, get your bats, and save something around 200K-213K energy

Mar 18 - 4:51PM2nascar4: Larva The children of your swarm. These young creatures morph into other adult units. You own 32.8639 billion larvae. You earn 204.711 million larvae per second. (×3.05M bonus)

Mar 18 - 4:51PM2nascar4: Just showed my brother this game

Mar 18 - 4:52PM2nascar4: He's mad at me now, XD

Mar 18 - 4:52PMsockcooker: it's going to take you almost 2 days to get that stuff. so it's not really worth worrying about

Mar 18 - 4:52PMsockcooker: once you've got it, just warp lots and buy lots more hatcheries; you'll unlock a 4th muta when you ascend

Mar 18 - 4:53PMsockcooker: (in about 3 days)

Mar 18 - 4:53PM2nascar4: Ugh

Mar 18 - 4:53PM2nascar4: Gonna be hard not to warp before 200k

Mar 18 - 4:53PMsockcooker: but, while you have lepi mutation, you are getting energy twice as fast.

Mar 18 - 4:54PMsockcooker: after you respec, it'll be half the speed. So, patience pays off

Mar 18 - 4:54PMsockcooker: in total, you'll need about another 350k energy (from now),

Mar 18 - 4:54PMsockcooker: with lepi muta you'll gain 1.7 per second, so that's 57 hours;

Mar 18 - 4:55PMsockcooker: without lepi muta it'll be about 114 hours

Mar 18 - 4:55PMsockcooker: two and a half days, or five days

Mar 18 - 4:57PMsockcooker: actually less than that, but, it's near enough for illustrating the idea

Mar 18 - 4:58PMsockcooker: you'll have about 1000 x more of everything in 2.5 days if you do what I said. If that helps.

Mar 18 - 4:58PMKong Bot: Set status to away

Mar 18 - 4:58PM2nascar4: okay

Mar 18 - 4:58PMKong Bot: Set status to active

Mar 18 - 4:58PM2nascar4: Let me put that in pastebin

Mar 18 - 4:59PMsockcooker: the principle is pretty simple;

Mar 18 - 4:59PMsockcooker: with lepi mutation, you gain energy twice as fast. Which is great - you need a lot of energy before you can ascend.

Mar 18 - 4:59PMsockcooker: But, if you have warp+bat mutations, you will be able to warp for MUCH longer

Mar 18 - 5:00PMsockcooker: so the answer is: you get all the energy first. Then you respec so you can have warp+bat (+meta, which means you get more mutagen)

Mar 18 - 5:01PMsockcooker: most users on 2nd ascend only have 2 mutations. so they get lepi (+meat), and then later respec to warp+bat, and then later respec again to meta+freq to buy the last hatcheries

Mar 18 - 5:01PMsockcooker: but, because you have 3 mutations, you only need 1 respec - to get warp+bat+meta

Mar 18 - 5:01PMsockcooker: and you will unlock a 4th mutation when you ascend, so you can get lepi again without needing to use another respec

Mar 18 - 5:02PMsockcooker: you won't have freq, but that's OK, it's the least important of the only 5 worth worrying about

Mar 18 - 5:03PMsockcooker: ¸.·´¯importance of mutations¯`·.¸

Mar 18 - 5:03PMsockcooker: 1. Lepi. *Super* important, to get energy twice as fast

Mar 18 - 5:04PMsockcooker: 2. Warp+bat. Very important, to get longer swarp times. swarp is OP

Mar 18 - 5:04PMsockcooker: 3. meta (+freq*) to get more mutagen. Only matters when buying the last few hatcheries. *freq is much less important, because...

Mar 18 - 5:05PMsockcooker: ...if 7 hatcheries do not pay out any mutagen, the 8th one always does. So as long as you have meta when buying the last 8+, you aren't going to fail to get lots

Mar 18 - 5:05PMsockcooker: and then much less critical,

Mar 18 - 5:05PMsockcooker: meat, hatch, rush, clone, terr

Mar 18 - 5:06PMsockcooker: it is totally worth using a respec if it helps you have lepi while gaining energy,

Mar 18 - 5:06PMsockcooker: and to have warp+bat while warping,

Mar 18 - 5:06PMsockcooker: and - less wonderful but still worth it - to have meta+freq when buying the last hatcheries

Mar 18 - 5:06PM2nascar4: okay

Mar 18 - 5:07PM2nascar4: Was afk

Mar 18 - 5:07PMsockcooker: (but if you already have meta somehow, it isn't worth another respec only to get freq)

Mar 18 - 5:07PM2nascar4: Then lost connection so I lost tons of what you said.

Mar 18 - 5:07PMsockcooker: it's not worth using a respec to get others. After you have 5 unlocked, respecs are only good for removing the lepi penalty