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  1. Beth Kelley shared a link.
  2. March 6 ·
  3. I Stand Against ObamaCare
  4. Stand against the federal takeover of health care!
  5. stand_obamacare.act.freedomworks.org
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  8. Chris Heidi Gumbert I AM SO AGAINST obamacare. It has screwed the working class American that works for a small family owned company. I want the man out
  9. March 6 at 9:11pm
  10. Beth Kelley I agree with you Chris n Heidi. ..You know what I have been through.
  11. March 6 at 11:10pm
  12. Kelson Heermans Sorry, for the first time in over a decade I have health insurance and I can actually get the treatment I need. So, you know, bite me. I need this.
  13. March 8 at 1:25am · 1
  14. Beth Kelley Guess what Kelson Candymonster, lol bite me! Me n Scott got royally fucked because of this. Over 2 grand in the hole because of having to pay out of pocket for medicines. That was one month supply
  15. March 8 at 1:37am
  16. Kelson Heermans Yeah, and is that directly related to obamacare, or is that related to how the medical industry is run in the united states? (I'll give you a hint. It's the latter. Obamacare doesn't regulate the prices on medicine.)
  17. March 8 at 3:49am · 1
  18. Beth Kelley You are right about the latter, wrong about the first. Don't forget, I know the medical game and how it's played. I'm a nurse and a patient, I know both sides.
  19. March 8 at 3:55am
  20. Kelson Heermans Yeah. And I read the entire, unedited, health care act. It has *nothing* to do with the cost of your medicine. It didn't even touch that. It made it so that you had to have health insurance or get a fine, which could only be taken out of your tax return. It then set it up so that people could get health insurance from the government or their employer. If you are poor enough you get it for free. Then they set up a bunch of things in there to make it *easier* for employers to give their employees health insurance, so that it would incentivize larger corporations, and also make it so that the mom and pop stores could do it, too.
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  22. Paying two grand out of pocket for medical expenses sucks, but Obamacare has literally nothing to do with the cost of medicine. It was all about health insurance and getting more people covered.
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  24. Now, it would be AWESOME if someone did something to yank back on the clearly corrupt medical system we have now, especially for treatments and medicine, but that wasn't even covered in the health care act.
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  26. So blaming Obama, Obamacare, and everything else for the shitty things that *someone else* has done to you? You're setting the wrong house on fire, that guy's down the street.
  27. March 8 at 4:02am · 1
  28. Beth Kelley No it doesn't directly. Scott and I had excellent insurance til he lost his job. I had insurance for awhile myself after. .which was still fucked because I still had to pay full price for meds. When Scott Barton was in the hospital last October. .he was fucked! Made too much for medicare and not enough to buy insurance.
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  30. Not to mention I am a Navy vet...guess what Dumbass screwed me again.
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  32. So unless you have been on both sides of the fence or until you are faced with obamacare not coming through because the hospital visit was between sign up times..do not argue in ignorance
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  34. It doesn't effect ppl the same that own as opposed to rent.. you won't lose your home if you can't pay out what Fucktard (One of Theds favorite words).
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  36. With that I am going to bed cause it is 4 in the morning and I need sleep
  37. March 8 at 4:22am
  38. Kelson Heermans Right. I think you just want to hate Obama without actually having something to back it up. You're using your misfortune as a way to justify it, but not actually making the connection between your problems and the prez. If anything all of these problems are coming from congress, since they are the ones who make these laws and regulate the shit that's fucking you over. You're probably pissed and not thinking too clearly about it.
  39. March 8 at 4:46pm · 1
  40. Beth Kelley Kelson, Until you have lived long enough to have gone through several presidents and several health care systems/options, you are the one arguing in ignorance.ou are going by what the Prez wants you to read--like all the other sheeple. Sorry but you are DEAD Wrong about this. CASE CLOSED. I will not argue when ppl are blinded by the media. Not to mention, a friendship.
  41. March 8 at 6:05pm
  42. Kelson Heermans I literally read the actual document of what the health care act was. I did my research. If you want to just dismiss that because you can't get over your hate, or want to look down on me because of my age, I am going to have to seriously reconsider the stance on our friendship. I don't like being insulted, or patronized, especially by people who are smarter and should know better.
  43. March 8 at 6:19pm
  44. Beth Kelley I have no hate. And, as HPS of CAW, do NOT disrespect my viewpoints as you have. I did not obtain the status I have in my life without EXPERIENCE. That being said, your age I mentioned only because of the lack of life experience, not a put-down. But if you are going to be that overly dramatic and sensitive, then yes, the relstionship needs to be looked at, especially since I have only known you through the few rituals you have attended. I do not need DRAMA. GROW UP and have great life. Please consider yourself uninvited to CAW rituals.
  45. March 9 at 1:35pm
  46. Rhonda Wertz I, for one, am thankful for the ACA. Without it, my husband and I would still be living with no insurance and no health care. I agree that it's not perfect, but until there is another viable option, I'll take it.
  47. March 9 at 1:39pm · 1
  48. Natalie Eckman I know people are angry with the way health insurance has crapped on the working class and the poor...long before President Barack Obama became president. Blaming the Presidnt Barack Obama won't help solve your problems. The fact that insurance companies/corporations catered only to the rich made it extremely hard for non-rich people to get insurance.....I know because I use to be one of those people. If insurance companies/corporations had affordable healthcare in the first place, for everyone, then President Barack Obama would not have had to make the Affordable Care Act. I also know that Affordable Care Act did not work for everybody...and with those cases, those people found other options of health care and financial aid to help them out. I'm still finding it hard to believe that you and Scott could not find any aid at all to help you out with your situation. I don't know how the laws are in Pennsylvania with health/financial aid, but there must have been something out there that could have helped you. I'm happy and thankful for the Affordable Care Act. Because when I got married, the plan was for me to get on Mike's insurance. WRONG. I when Mike called his insurance company to add me, he would have to pay $400.00 to $500.00 dollars out of his own pocket to cover me. WTF!?! And this was even before the Affordable Care Act was even put into effect. Neither one of us could ever afford that. So I'm thankful for the Affordable Care Act, because I have insurance because of it.
  49. March 9 at 9:13pm
  50. Theadeaus Shaffer Well part of the problem is the Republicans voting down any bill that would help vets, trying to create laws that get rid of rights for women and the fact that they gutted the ACA even though it was their invention but did so because they hated a black man in office. But let's blame the president.
  51. March 9 at 9:49pm · 1
  52. Kelson Heermans ok, if you're going to use someones age to first judge their level of experience, then you didn't learn that it's not how long you've been on the road, but how far you've gone down it that shows how much experience you have gotten.
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  54. Secondly, no, I am not being overly dramatic and sensitive. I do not like being judged on by my age, and I will not tolerate it. Especially since I am 30, I don't think the old standby of "you're younger so you don't know anything" doesn't really fly anymore.
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  56. Third, no, you knew me more than just the meets, we hung out a lot before, we went to pennsic and war practice, all sorts of things. If you don't remember them, fine. Whatever.
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  58. Fourth, I am willing to listen to your opinions, but if you state something as fact, you better back it up. If you think the health care act is the reason your medicine is so expensive, show me where.
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  60. https://www.healthcare.gov/where-can-i-read-the.../
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  62. There's a link to the whole document. Point it out. If you know so much more than me and your experience and facts are correct, then you should be able to do that without a hitch.
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  64. Fourth, YOU are the one starting drama. I disagreed with what you said, and yeah, I said that the people who want to end the AHA could bite me, because I fuckin need the insurance. You were the one that took it to the level it got to.
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  66. Fifth, really, you're going to tell me you aren't insulting my age by telling me to "grow up"? And then have the testicular fortitude to tell me to be mature AND then kick me out of your group? That's rich.
  67.  
  68. Fine. Be that way. I'm out.
  69. Read the Affordable Care Act, Health Care Law
  70. Read the Affordable Care Act. Several versions available. The law, also known as Obamacare, signed into law on March 23, 2010.
  71. healthcare.gov
  72. March 9 at 11:32pm · Remove Preview
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