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  1. [22:00:33] <&elevator_music> ok, who's here?
  2. [22:00:51] <imanalt|phone> Me
  3. [22:00:57] <imanalt|phone> :o
  4. [22:01:04] <Borogoves> oh me
  5. [22:01:10] <&macle> me
  6. [22:01:13] <&macle> kinda
  7. [22:01:22] <McMeghan> i'm reading =)
  8. [22:01:44] <&elevator_music> ok
  9. [22:01:45] <Glitch> i'm just lurking
  10. [22:01:49] * Metroid78 (Mibbit@synIRC-53CADDCE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  11. [22:01:58] <&elevator_music> do any of you have a pokemon you want to base the team around, or anything like that?
  12. [22:02:17] <Borogoves> well I was just thinking that because we showed how to build
  13. [22:02:21] <Borogoves> an offensive team last time
  14. [22:02:22] <imanalt|phone> Cranidos is a badass
  15. [22:02:29] <Borogoves> maybe we should go defensive for this one
  16. [22:02:31] <Borogoves> ?
  17. [22:02:58] <&elevator_music> ok, a defensive team is fine i suppose
  18. [22:03:11] <McMeghan> what about Cacnea ?
  19. [22:03:12] <&elevator_music> or cranidos
  20. [22:03:37] <&elevator_music> im not certain of cacnea's viability lol
  21. [22:04:11] * blarajan (~blarajan@synIRC-A5C268B1.wireless.umd.edu) has joined #littlecup
  22. [22:04:11] * Cerberus sets mode: +o blarajan
  23. [22:04:22] <@blarajan> hi
  24. [22:04:23] <@blarajan> i'm here
  25. [22:04:24] <@blarajan> have we done anything
  26. [22:04:29] <&elevator_music> nope
  27. [22:04:31] <@blarajan> i'll be back in five minutes
  28. [22:04:32] <Borogoves> just discussing starting points
  29. [22:04:37] <@blarajan> need a protein shake
  30. [22:04:38] <@blarajan> start without me
  31. [22:05:21] <&elevator_music> ok
  32. [22:05:25] <&elevator_music> umm
  33. [22:05:30] <&elevator_music> no other suggestions?
  34. [22:05:37] <&elevator_music> why is nobody here today x.x
  35. [22:05:45] <McMeghan> hmmm
  36. [22:06:17] <&macle> ummmmm
  37. [22:06:20] <&macle> lets use sunkern
  38. [22:06:32] <imanalt|phone> Yes
  39. [22:06:51] <&elevator_music> i was kind of thinking beldum but ok
  40. [22:07:03] <McMeghan> what about
  41. [22:07:06] <&macle> beldum is too hipseter
  42. [22:07:09] <McMeghan> Eevee
  43. [22:07:22] <imanalt|phone> Beldum won me a randbat today, don't speak of the bell in such a bad light :p
  44. [22:07:25] <&elevator_music> eevee really isnt any better than cacnea :(
  45. [22:07:35] <&elevator_music> its not that strong or bulky :(
  46. [22:07:53] <McMeghan> Teddiursa ?
  47. [22:08:31] <&elevator_music> prem
  48. [22:08:44] <@blarajan> teddiursa sounds cool
  49. [22:08:46] <@blarajan> i like teddiursa
  50. [22:08:49] <Borogoves> what does beldum do, I've only seen it once
  51. [22:08:51] <&elevator_music> dies
  52. [22:08:53] <@blarajan> it uses take down
  53. [22:08:56] <@blarajan> and dies
  54. [22:08:56] <imanalt|phone> Cranidos>teddiursa
  55. [22:09:00] <@blarajan> cranidos is balls
  56. [22:09:04] <Borogoves> oh ok :p
  57. [22:09:14] <Borogoves> teddiursa is good
  58. [22:09:36] <Borogoves> just has a lot of trouble setting up :<
  59. [22:09:58] <&macle> lets use sub sd drillbur
  60. [22:11:25] <@blarajan> sub drilbur could be cool
  61. [22:11:27] * VintageBooks (~VB@tables.set.and.there.is.tea.for.two) has joined #littlecup
  62. [22:11:30] * ala (~Ala@synIRC-E6F0F73C.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #littlecup
  63. [22:11:37] <&elevator_music> we havent built a sand team yet
  64. [22:11:43] * HSA (Mibbit@as.cool.as.an.ice.mongoose) has joined #littlecup
  65. [22:11:44] <@blarajan> that's true
  66. [22:11:55] <+PoJ> Did Axew get new tutor moves from BW2 to help its coverage?
  67. [22:11:56] <@blarajan> i'm down with a sand team based on supporting sub sd eq shadow claw drilbur
  68. [22:11:59] <@blarajan> if we're cool with that
  69. [22:12:05] <@blarajan> yeah it got superpower low kick and aqua tail
  70. [22:12:06] <@blarajan> i think
  71. [22:12:08] <imanalt|phone> :o
  72. [22:12:15] <Borogoves> we could build a defensive sand team that cleans with drilbur
  73. [22:12:16] <Borogoves> ?
  74. [22:12:22] <+DTC> doesn't beldum use iron head and zen headbutt
  75. [22:12:23] <+DTC> and dies
  76. [22:12:27] <McMeghan> it indeed got SuperPower
  77. [22:12:29] <&elevator_music> yes to both
  78. [22:12:30] <imanalt|phone> Iron defense
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  80. [22:12:34] <McMeghan> also Aqua Tail
  81. [22:12:37] <Pikachu> woop
  82. [22:12:38] <imanalt|phone> Sit and do nothing before dying
  83. [22:12:42] <imanalt|phone> Anyways
  84. [22:15:18] <McMeghan> from what i know
  85. [22:15:28] <SnowflAFkes> .
  86. [22:15:28] <McMeghan> what about RS/Crunch on SR to hit misdrea / murkrow
  87. [22:15:45] <McMeghan> and keeping SR on something that would not let Staryu switch in
  88. [22:15:57] <McMeghan> therefore, more pressure on the opponent team, and a good way to fight Hail
  89. [22:16:00] * SnowflAFkes is now known as Snowflakes
  90. [22:16:07] <ebeast> so Hippo + Lileep for Rocks
  91. [22:16:08] <Ulysses> what has sr and beats starmie
  92. [22:16:09] <McMeghan> (bcuz hard spinz !!)
  93. [22:16:11] <Ulysses> *staryu
  94. [22:16:19] <Ulysses> oh ok
  95. [22:16:21] <Snowflakes> lileep
  96. [22:16:27] <&elevator_music> we can do that, though we have to pick a pokemon to use sr then
  97. [22:16:40] <&elevator_music> lileep is the obvious choice, ferroseed works too (but lileep is 'better')
  98. [22:16:57] <&elevator_music> a certain user that i dont want to hl that just went afk will probably object but
  99. [22:17:07] <Pikachu> I feel retarded
  100. [22:17:10] <ebeast> blaranig?
  101. [22:17:14] <Pikachu> not knowing what sr is
  102. [22:17:14] <&elevator_music> the only concern i have with that
  103. [22:17:24] <&elevator_music> is that when you're using sand and playing a hail team
  104. [22:17:29] <ebeast> SR = Stealth Rock
  105. [22:17:34] <Pikachu> oh
  106. [22:17:35] <Pikachu> OH
  107. [22:17:38] <&elevator_music> the opponent will usually just switch snover in against hippopotas on the turn you would sr
  108. [22:17:53] <&elevator_music> idk
  109. [22:17:58] <&elevator_music> i guess what im saying is
  110. [22:18:00] <Ulysses> what beats snover then
  111. [22:18:11] * Audiosurfer (Mibbit@E24A64DB.636F1225.540BC7C2.IP) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  112. [22:18:14] <&elevator_music> actually idk im really tired blarajan come here
  113. [22:18:14] <Ulysses> not lileep
  114. [22:18:30] <&elevator_music> but i dont have an objection to running sr on lileep (or using lileep, its really good and dumb not to use in sand)
  115. [22:12:44] <@blarajan> stop talking about beldum
  116. [22:12:51] <@blarajan> sand is an important metagame condition
  117. [22:12:52] <McMeghan> no low kick tho
  118. [22:12:54] <imanalt|phone> Defensive sand with drilbur could be cool
  119. [22:12:55] <@blarajan> so i'm very okay building a sand team
  120. [22:13:04] <@blarajan> we should definitely teach with that
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  122. [22:13:27] <Ulysses> ok what have i misse
  123. [22:13:29] <Ulysses> d
  124. [22:13:45] <&macle> we are using drillbur
  125. [22:13:47] <+PoJ> They're building sand I think
  126. [22:13:50] <+PoJ> Sub SD Drilbur
  127. [22:13:51] <Ulysses> kk
  128. [22:13:51] <&macle> thats what you missed
  129. [22:14:00] <&elevator_music> ok
  130. [22:14:16] <&elevator_music> so obviously we have to use hippopotas as well
  131. [22:14:31] <@blarajan> ok brb
  132. [22:14:41] <@blarajan> sr eq slack off whirlwind btw
  133. [22:14:45] <Pikachu> zubat?
  134. [22:14:47] <@blarajan> crunch is retarded and toxic not worth it
  135. [22:14:52] <@blarajan> brb
  136. [22:15:14] <McMeghan> i'm not into LC but
  137. [22:18:37] <@blarajan> what
  138. [22:18:38] <@blarajan> fuck you
  139. [22:18:42] <@blarajan> i'm tired too >.<
  140. [22:18:46] <&elevator_music> ok
  141. [22:18:57] <@blarajan> what are we doing
  142. [22:18:59] <@blarajan> for the record
  143. [22:19:00] <&elevator_music> if we're going to use a move over sr on hippo
  144. [22:19:08] <@blarajan> then put sr on something else
  145. [22:19:11] <&elevator_music> then i would suggest rock slide to hit snover on the switchin
  146. [22:19:13] <@blarajan> i'd veer against it
  147. [22:19:13] <Ulysses> rock slide for snover?
  148. [22:19:14] <@blarajan> oh
  149. [22:19:15] <Ulysses> yeah
  150. [22:19:15] <@blarajan> no fuck that
  151. [22:19:26] <@blarajan> superpower ohkoes
  152. [22:19:27] <Ulysses> and hit murk
  153. [22:19:35] <&elevator_music> superpower works too i guess...
  154. [22:19:43] <&elevator_music> has dumb coverage with eq but w/e
  155. [22:19:48] <@blarajan> 0 Atk Hippopotas Superpower vs 0 HP/0 Def Snover: 100% - 118.18% (Guaranteed OHKO)
  156. [22:19:51] <@blarajan> but if you want it to hit snover
  157. [22:19:54] <@blarajan> you're fucking ohkoing
  158. [22:20:04] <@blarajan> plus an attack point on hippo and hp on snover
  159. [22:20:06] <@blarajan> it kills anyways
  160. [22:20:09] <&elevator_music> and then on lileep run giga drain/recover/ancientpower/sr
  161. [22:20:11] <&elevator_music> ?
  162. [22:20:17] <@blarajan> i don't know are we using lileep
  163. [22:20:28] <McMeghan> thx to my input yes =)
  164. [22:20:37] <Borogoves> either lileep or ferroseed
  165. [22:20:37] <ebeast> yeah mcmeghan wanted to use an sR user that pressured Staryu
  166. [22:20:46] <@blarajan> yeah lileep is fine
  167. [22:20:48] <Borogoves> but lileep is better
  168. [22:20:50] <@blarajan> yeah @ what you said em
  169. [22:20:53] <@blarajan> okay
  170. [22:20:55] <@blarajan> here's the deal
  171. [22:20:59] <imanalt|phone> Yay our whole team is iceweak noe
  172. [22:21:02] <@blarajan> when we're using lileep
  173. [22:21:11] <@blarajan> giga drain, recover, and toxic are necessities
  174. [22:21:14] <@blarajan> we have a few options in this last slot
  175. [22:21:28] <McMeghan> why Toxik ?
  176. [22:21:28] <&elevator_music> the ice weak isnt too problematic, since snover is literally the only common pokemon that uses ice moves
  177. [22:21:34] <McMeghan> (i'm asking as a LC Noob)
  178. [22:21:35] <imanalt|phone> True
  179. [22:21:37] <@blarajan> because toxic is the absolute best move on lileep ever
  180. [22:21:38] * IAR (Mibbit@DACF4086.D4E670AA.EC5D7384.IP) Quit (Quit: BIAR!)
  181. [22:21:42] <McMeghan> yeh but
  182. [22:21:44] <@blarajan> it needs it to threaten like everything
  183. [22:21:45] <McMeghan> any reason ?
  184. [22:21:45] <@blarajan> and to hurt mienfoo
  185. [22:21:51] <Ulysses> between leech seed and ancientpower imo
  186. [22:21:52] <@blarajan> and to hurt murkrow when it roosts
  187. [22:21:59] <imanalt|phone> We said were getting lileep for sr right..? So that in the last spot
  188. [22:22:00] <@blarajan> lileep doesn't use leech seed
  189. [22:22:05] <@blarajan> if you want to leech seed on the switch
  190. [22:22:07] <@blarajan> toxic instead
  191. [22:22:12] <@blarajan> you have giga drain and recover for healing
  192. [22:22:13] <@blarajan> ANYWAYS
  193. [22:22:18] <@blarajan> you use in the last slot
  194. [22:22:20] <@blarajan> ancient power
  195. [22:22:25] <@blarajan> for STAB, krow, or larvesta etc
  196. [22:22:28] <&elevator_music> thats an easy choice because it doesnt get leech seed does it?
  197. [22:22:30] <@blarajan> hp fire for ferroseed if that's an issue
  198. [22:22:32] <@blarajan> OR
  199. [22:22:33] <Borogoves> giga drain / recover / toxic / sr
  200. [22:22:34] <@blarajan> earth power
  201. [22:22:38] <@blarajan> for croagunk
  202. [22:22:39] <@blarajan> magnemite
  203. [22:22:42] <@blarajan> tentacool
  204. [22:22:46] <Snowflakes> ancient power
  205. [22:22:47] <@blarajan> oh
  206. [22:22:48] <@blarajan> fuck
  207. [22:22:48] <ebeast> ya Lileep doesn't even get Leech Seed
  208. [22:22:48] <Pikachu> voltorb
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  210. [22:22:50] <@merp> oh
  211. [22:22:50] <Snowflakes> you're on a sand team
  212. [22:22:52] <imanalt|phone> Yeah we said we were getting lileep for sr, so idk...
  213. [22:22:53] <@blarajan> we don't have sr on hippo do we
  214. [22:22:54] <Borogoves> yeah :<
  215. [22:22:54] <@blarajan> >.<
  216. [22:22:55] <Pikachu> what about his fast ass
  217. [22:22:55] <@merp> is there a teambuilding session?
  218. [22:23:02] <@blarajan> DAMMIT
  219. [22:23:02] <@blarajan> okay
  220. [22:23:03] <Borogoves> yes
  221. [22:23:06] <@blarajan> sr toxic giga drain recover
  222. [22:23:08] <@blarajan> that's about it
  223. [22:23:08] <@merp> wht mon did we pick
  224. [22:23:09] <@merp> lol
  225. [22:23:10] <@blarajan> never mind
  226. [22:23:13] <@blarajan> sub sd drilbur, prem
  227. [22:23:15] <Ulysses> drillbur
  228. [22:23:18] <@merp> thats boring
  229. [22:23:22] <Pikachu> voltorb outspeeds all of little cup
  230. [22:23:23] <@blarajan> yeah well we have to build sand at least once
  231. [22:23:35] <Ulysses> it's also voltorb
  232. [22:23:42] <Ulysses> which is its main problem
  233. [22:23:46] <@blarajan> that's a nice observation, pikachu
  234. [22:23:48] <@merp> its hippo lileep drilbur murkrow missy croagunk
  235. [22:23:49] <@merp> lol
  236. [22:23:50] <@blarajan> but voltorb is also really awful
  237. [22:23:51] <@blarajan> shut up prem
  238. [22:23:55] <Snowflakes> lol
  239. [22:23:57] <@merp> okay
  240. [22:23:59] <@merp> fine
  241. [22:24:02] <@blarajan> ok so hippo we're using
  242. [22:24:13] <@blarajan> eq slack off whirlwind superpower?
  243. [22:24:14] <&elevator_music> drilbur outspeeds everything in sand too :)
  244. [22:24:20] <@blarajan> >.<
  245. [22:24:22] <Pikachu> voltorb has a usable movepool
  246. [22:24:24] <@blarajan> well
  247. [22:24:25] <@blarajan> actually
  248. [22:24:31] <@blarajan> rock slide is probably better cause it hits misdreavus
  249. [22:24:32] <@blarajan> yeah
  250. [22:24:34] <@blarajan> fuck superpower
  251. [22:24:35] <&elevator_music> its really weak and frail though, which is more important :(
  252. [22:24:37] <@blarajan> that ohkoe's not worth it
  253. [22:24:38] <@merp> use crunch
  254. [22:24:39] <@merp> lol
  255. [22:24:42] <@blarajan> no it's for snover
  256. [22:24:47] <&elevator_music> anyways
  257. [22:24:48] <@blarajan> 0 Atk Hippopotas Rock Slide vs 0 HP/0 Def Snover: 63.64% - 81.82% (2 hits to KO)
  258. [22:24:50] <@blarajan> see this is annoying
  259. [22:25:00] <&elevator_music> its fine
  260. [22:25:02] <&elevator_music> hippopotas/drilbur/lileep
  261. [22:25:03] <@merp> doesnt hippo always run some attack investment
  262. [22:25:07] <@blarajan> yeah but i'm lazy
  263. [22:25:07] <imanalt|phone> If you assume sr it takes very little to make that an ohko
  264. [22:25:10] <@merp> and just hurting snover is enough
  265. [22:25:17] <Ulysses> plus if sr is up
  266. [22:25:20] <&elevator_music> the next step is to pick something that can come and threaten snover
  267. [22:25:23] <Ulysses> snover is dead
  268. [22:25:28] <@blarajan> em
  269. [22:25:29] <@blarajan> prem
  270. [22:25:31] <@blarajan> moocle
  271. [22:25:34] <@blarajan> you can handle this session?
  272. [22:25:35] <&macle> hi
  273. [22:25:35] <&elevator_music> since snover is literally the biggest threat to a sand team
  274. [22:25:37] <&elevator_music> yeah sure
  275. [22:25:38] <@blarajan> please?
  276. [22:25:39] <@blarajan> k
  277. [22:25:40] <@blarajan> thanks
  278. [22:25:43] <@merp> ya i got it
  279. [22:25:43] <@blarajan> gotta bolt sorry
  280. [22:25:46] <&elevator_music> its k
  281. [22:25:49] <@merp> bye blara :D
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  283. [22:25:51] <@blarajan> bye guys
  284. [22:25:53] <@blarajan> good luck with this team
  285. [22:25:54] <Pikachu> larvitar is in lc right
  286. [22:25:57] <@blarajan> it's sand so it really won't be too hard
  287. [22:25:58] <ebeast> y
  288. [22:25:59] <@merp> yes it is
  289. [22:26:00] <&elevator_music> so now, what are pokemon that can switch in on snover
  290. [22:26:00] <+PoJ> Yeah
  291. [22:26:01] <@blarajan> yes it is, pikachu!
  292. [22:26:03] * @blarajan (~blarajan@synIRC-A5C268B1.wireless.umd.edu) Quit (Quit: )
  293. [22:26:10] <Ulysses> uh
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  295. [22:26:13] <Ulysses> hm
  296. [22:26:17] <@merp> i would answer but i dont think im supposed
  297. [22:26:18] <@merp> to lol
  298. [22:26:20] <Ulysses> houndour?
  299. [22:26:24] <&elevator_music> you can if you want
  300. [22:26:26] <Ulysses> idk
  301. [22:26:26] <@merp> unless you use shitty evio
  302. [22:26:28] <@merp> no
  303. [22:26:32] <ebeast> n
  304. [22:26:39] <ebeast> manly LO Houndour is the only set
  305. [22:26:49] <@merp> oka
  306. [22:26:50] <&elevator_music> houndour is a bit too frail for the job, especially in sand with lo
  307. [22:26:54] <@merp> you guys arent answering
  308. [22:26:55] <@merp> so
  309. [22:26:56] <Ulysses> larvesta?
  310. [22:27:00] <Pikachu> slugma
  311. [22:27:04] <Pikachu> nowait
  312. [22:27:04] <&elevator_music> larvesta is an option
  313. [22:27:06] <@merp> larveseta, magnemite, bronzor
  314. [22:27:13] <&elevator_music> tbh slugma probably could work but its really poor otherwise
  315. [22:27:21] <&elevator_music> it does get recovery though lol
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  317. [22:27:29] <imanalt|phone> Lol
  318. [22:27:30] <Pikachu> numel
  319. [22:27:32] <@merp> lol
  320. [22:27:33] <@merp> it does?
  321. [22:27:35] <Pikachu> has ground fire
  322. [22:27:36] <Ulysses> larvesta can take a hit and immediately scare out snover and scout etc
  323. [22:27:41] <&elevator_music> numel is 2hkoed by blizzard
  324. [22:27:42] <McMeghan> it has recover prem iirc
  325. [22:27:44] <Pikachu> oh
  326. [22:27:46] <@merp> damn
  327. [22:27:47] <Pikachu> crap
  328. [22:28:03] <@merp> we cuold
  329. [22:28:04] <@merp> use
  330. [22:28:06] <@merp> like
  331. [22:28:09] <@merp> ponyta
  332. [22:28:10] <@merp> ll
  333. [22:28:12] <&elevator_music> larvesta works, although then we need to dedicate a slot for a spinner
  334. [22:28:17] <Ulysses> true
  335. [22:28:26] <&elevator_music> which isnt a huge problem
  336. [22:28:27] * Snowflakes is now known as Snowflakes22
  337. [22:28:28] <@merp> i would say magby
  338. [22:28:29] <@merp> but
  339. [22:28:30] <&elevator_music> but something to consider
  340. [22:28:31] <&elevator_music> lol
  341. [22:28:35] <@merp> thats as frail as houndour
  342. [22:28:35] <@merp> lol
  343. [22:28:42] <@merp> !pstats magby
  344. [22:28:42] <+pstats> Magby [Fire] Flame Body/Vital Spirit (DW) | 45/75/37/70/55/83 | LC | GK/LK: 40 BP
  345. [22:28:46] <@merp> !pstats houndour
  346. [22:28:46] <+pstats> Houndour [Dark/Fire] Early Bird/Flash Fire/Unnerve (DW) | 45/60/30/80/50/65 | LC | GK/LK: 40 BP
  347. [22:28:57] <Snowflakes22> sup
  348. [22:28:59] <Ulysses> magby 2 bulky
  349. [22:29:00] <&elevator_music> why are both of those pokemon bulkier than slugma -.-
  350. [22:29:02] <Snowflakes22> i inherited sc's 22
  351. [22:29:07] <Ulysses> !slugma
  352. [22:29:08] <Borogoves> !pstats slugma
  353. [22:29:08] <+pstats> Slugma [Fire] Magma Armor/Flame Body/Weak Armor (DW) | 40/40/40/70/40/20 | LC | GK/LK: 60 BP
  354. [22:29:11] <Ulysses> !pstats slugma
  355. [22:29:11] <+pstats> Slugma [Fire] Magma Armor/Flame Body/Weak Armor (DW) | 40/40/40/70/40/20 | LC | GK/LK: 60 BP
  356. [22:29:12] <@merp> !lol
  357. [22:29:13] <Ulysses> oop
  358. [22:29:16] <@merp> they arent more physical bulky
  359. [22:29:28] <Ulysses> those 40/40/40 defenses lol
  360. [22:29:29] <&elevator_music> we're using them for snover though :S
  361. [22:29:43] <Ulysses> !pstats larvesta
  362. [22:29:43] <+pstats> Larvesta [Bug/Fire] Flame Body/Swarm (DW, Unreleased) | 55/85/55/50/55/60 | LC | GK/LK: 60 BP
  363. [22:29:45] <&elevator_music> another option is umm
  364. [22:29:46] <&elevator_music> pawniard
  365. [22:29:47] <&macle> MUNCHIE
  366. [22:29:52] <@merp> MUNCHLAX
  367. [22:29:52] <&elevator_music> and munchlax!
  368. [22:29:56] <Borogoves> munch :>
  369. [22:29:57] <&elevator_music> so we have
  370. [22:29:59] <imanalt|phone> Pawniard strongth
  371. [22:30:00] <@merp> i call a vote for munchlax
  372. [22:30:00] <Ulysses> does snover run wood hammer
  373. [22:30:02] <@merp> no
  374. [22:30:05] <&elevator_music> larvesta/magnemite/bronzor/munchlax/pawniard
  375. [22:30:09] <@merp> it runs blizzard ice shard giga drain filler
  376. [22:30:09] <Borogoves> I say yes to munchlax
  377. [22:30:10] <&elevator_music> those are all pretty good choices
  378. [22:30:12] <imanalt|phone> Although I thought we were going for a more defensive team
  379. [22:30:16] <@merp> nah
  380. [22:30:17] <imanalt|phone> Lax IMO
  381. [22:30:18] <&elevator_music> munchlax is cool, im a fan
  382. [22:30:33] <&macle> man ive made like half this team
  383. [22:30:34] <@merp> this team is more beat things that stop eivo drillbur from winning
  384. [22:30:46] <Pikachu> knock off
  385. [22:30:47] <@merp> and then use evio drilbur and win
  386. [22:30:48] <Pikachu> can work
  387. [22:30:53] <&elevator_music> thats usually the goal of sand hehe
  388. [22:30:55] <&elevator_music> yeah
  389. [22:30:55] <Snowflakes22> i thought that was sand
  390. [22:31:08] <@merp> no one uses evio drilbur on standard sand.
  391. [22:31:12] * Snowflakes22 is now known as Snowflakes
  392. [22:31:12] <@merp> well no one i know lol
  393. [22:31:15] <&elevator_music> ok, munchlax is cool
  394. [22:31:25] <Pikachu> lickitung
  395. [22:31:31] <Pikachu> wants peanut butter
  396. [22:31:34] <&elevator_music> we should pick a spread that can hit hard and take blizzards comfortably
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  400. [22:31:44] <@merp> 236 atk 236 spd
  401. [22:31:45] <@merp> !
  402. [22:31:50] <Snowflakes> lol
  403. [22:31:52] <Borogoves> !!!
  404. [22:32:06] <Pikachu> who resists ice x4
  405. [22:32:08] <&elevator_music> hahah ok, investing in hp might be better but ya
  406. [22:32:10] <@merp> umm
  407. [22:32:15] <+Hawkstar> spheal
  408. [22:32:18] <Ulysses> what set, return/eq/firepunch/filler?
  409. [22:32:24] <Ulysses> or is munchlax different this gen
  410. [22:32:30] <@merp> focus punch body slam fire punch seed bomb
  411. [22:32:31] <@merp> LGI
  412. [22:32:37] <@merp> lets not take that seriously js
  413. [22:32:51] <&macle> use the vader spread
  414. [22:32:57] <&macle> weed and sandwich
  415. [22:33:03] <@merp> i just know
  416. [22:33:05] <&elevator_music> i dont think anything 4x resists ice in lc
  417. [22:33:08] <@merp> we should run focus punch
  418. [22:33:11] <&elevator_music> without thick fat anyways
  419. [22:33:12] <@merp> because its vade
  420. [22:33:14] <@merp> spheal
  421. [22:33:14] <@merp> lol
  422. [22:33:17] <&elevator_music> blara will throw a fit
  423. [22:33:21] <&elevator_music> oh right spheal
  424. [22:33:23] <Ulysses> spheal is godtier
  425. [22:33:26] <&elevator_music> we arent running that though -.-
  426. [22:33:31] <@merp> man
  427. [22:33:32] <@merp> we should run
  428. [22:33:39] <@merp> hydrarest seal
  429. [22:33:49] <&elevator_music> on a sand team x.x
  430. [22:33:51] <@merp> seel
  431. [22:33:53] <@merp> i kno
  432. [22:33:54] <imanalt|phone> Lol
  433. [22:33:55] <@merp> its a sand team
  434. [22:33:56] <@merp> so we cant do that
  435. [22:34:02] <Ulysses> tenta can switch into snover
  436. [22:34:04] <Ulysses> and spin too
  437. [22:34:29] <Ulysses> i assume it can take giga drain at least
  438. [22:34:31] <Ulysses> could be wrong
  439. [22:34:34] <&elevator_music> i like munchie because it can pursuit snover
  440. [22:34:35] <imanalt|phone> So ATM we have munchlax/lileep/hippo/drilbur Right?
  441. [22:34:39] <@merp> yes
  442. [22:34:39] <Ulysses> true
  443. [22:34:41] <+PoJ> Liquid Ooze :3
  444. [22:34:41] <Pikachu> get a steel type
  445. [22:34:42] <@merp> now
  446. [22:34:45] <Pikachu> it needs it
  447. [22:34:51] <@merp> we need to not get buttfucked by fighting attacks
  448. [22:34:54] <&elevator_music> what we need is
  449. [22:34:55] <&elevator_music> yea
  450. [22:34:56] <Ulysses> missy
  451. [22:35:01] <&elevator_music> lol something to switch into fighting-types
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  453. [22:35:09] <&elevator_music> we also need a solid method of handling
  454. [22:35:09] <Borogoves> so missy
  455. [22:35:11] <&macle> miss
  456. [22:35:13] <Borogoves> :x
  457. [22:35:14] <&macle> gastly
  458. [22:35:16] <imanalt|phone> Fuck missy :(
  459. [22:35:19] <&elevator_music> bronzor, shroomish, and foongus
  460. [22:35:19] <&macle> drif
  461. [22:35:27] <Borogoves> oh true
  462. [22:35:31] <McMeghan> therre is also lil slowking
  463. [22:35:31] <imanalt|phone> Gastly pro, but idk about sand gastly
  464. [22:35:33] <Ulysses> larvesta does that :o
  465. [22:35:43] <@merp> sand gastly works
  466. [22:35:44] <Ulysses> murk too
  467. [22:35:48] <@merp> but gastly
  468. [22:35:53] <@merp> isnt used with miss around
  469. [22:35:56] <@merp> unless we wanna be vader
  470. [22:35:59] <@merp> DOUBLE SCARF GHOST
  471. [22:36:04] <&elevator_music> stop c.c
  472. [22:36:05] <Borogoves> lol
  473. [22:36:08] <&macle> o
  474. [22:36:11] <&macle> double scarf
  475. [22:36:15] <&macle> i just use double ghost
  476. [22:36:22] <Ulysses> krow/missy is the really easy way to round out this team but that's boring
  477. [22:36:29] <Ulysses> really boring
  478. [22:37:09] <&elevator_music> we could also just run larvesta+staryu
  479. [22:37:10] <&elevator_music> -.-
  480. [22:37:23] <&macle> gay
  481. [22:37:26] <&macle> i hate spinning
  482. [22:37:27] <&elevator_music> it leaves us a little weak to murkrow though
  483. [22:37:29] <&macle> more than blacks
  484. [22:37:44] <&elevator_music> yea well running larvesta on a sand team without a spinner is dumber than you
  485. [22:37:47] <&elevator_music> ...
  486. [22:38:02] <&macle> hey
  487. [22:38:05] <&macle> this team
  488. [22:38:06] <&macle> is like
  489. [22:38:07] <&macle> mine
  490. [22:38:09] <&macle> legit
  491. [22:38:17] <@merp> its like... a standard sand team!??
  492. [22:38:24] <Borogoves> we could do shelmet
  493. [22:38:31] <&macle> we are using sub sd
  494. [22:38:33] <Ulysses> larvesta/staryu is more interesting
  495. [22:38:35] <&macle> the best
  496. [22:38:35] <Ulysses> let's do that
  497. [22:38:37] <@merp> shelmet is cool but
  498. [22:38:39] <Borogoves> it takes on fighters and hp flying helps with grass types
  499. [22:38:46] <&elevator_music> so does bug buzz .-.
  500. [22:38:48] <@merp> murkrow weakness
  501. [22:38:56] <@merp> hp flying also hits fighting types
  502. [22:38:57] <@merp> lol
  503. [22:38:59] <Borogoves> hp flying > bug buzz
  504. [22:39:32] <&elevator_music> hp flying is really only necessary to truly counter scraggy, who in sand wont be an issue :(
  505. [22:39:41] <&elevator_music> shelmet will just stall out the other fighters anyways
  506. [22:40:54] <@merp> scraggy is an issue to all teams :(
  507. [22:41:12] <Ulysses> scraggy should have stayed gone
  508. [22:41:14] <Ulysses> but i digress
  509. [22:43:01] <Borogoves> alright then
  510. [22:43:14] <Borogoves> larvesta / staryu or shelmet / krow check
  511. [22:43:31] <imanalt|phone> I'd go Shelmet
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  513. [22:44:28] <Ulysses> we need a spinner for lavesta, does shelmet spin
  514. [22:44:35] <+PoJ> No
  515. [22:44:41] <Ulysses> didn't think so
  516. [22:44:48] <imanalt|phone> I'm saying not larvesta
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  519. [22:45:21] <imanalt|phone> Also I could totally get my wish of Cranidos, cause it beats krow mostly
  520. [22:45:38] <Borogoves> archen :>
  521. [22:45:39] <&elevator_music> the team right now is
  522. [22:45:48] <&elevator_music> hippopotas/drilbur/lileep/munchlax
  523. [22:45:48] <&elevator_music> ?
  524. [22:45:52] <imanalt|phone> Y
  525. [22:46:11] <&elevator_music> if thats the case
  526. [22:46:24] <&elevator_music> murkrow only becomes an issue if we add pokemon that have big problems with it
  527. [22:46:46] <imanalt|phone> Yeah some people were saying add Shelmet and somethin to beat krow
  528. [22:46:51] <imanalt|phone> Idk
  529. [22:46:55] <&elevator_music> hippo can rock slide, drilbur can sub (it can only hit it with shadow claw but w/e), lileep should be able to stall it out, munchie beats it one on one
  530. [22:47:09] <Borogoves> are we going rock slide > superpower
  531. [22:47:14] <&elevator_music> yeah
  532. [22:47:18] <Borogoves> k
  533. [22:47:30] <&elevator_music> is someone building this btw?
  534. [22:47:38] <&elevator_music> if not thats ok but
  535. [22:48:30] <Ulysses> i am
  536. [22:48:51] <Ulysses> are the evs standard
  537. [22:48:55] <&elevator_music> yeah, probably
  538. [22:49:55] <&elevator_music> we do really need something that threatens those grass-types
  539. [22:50:14] <imanalt|phone> Shelmet!
  540. [22:50:51] <&elevator_music> that doesnt really threaten them too much though :(
  541. [22:50:55] <&elevator_music> i mean it does but
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  543. [22:51:32] <&elevator_music> one option is natu
  544. [22:51:42] <&elevator_music> shelmet is cool too
  545. [22:51:45] <&elevator_music> dont get me wrong
  546. [22:51:51] <Borogoves> natu could work
  547. [22:51:51] <&elevator_music> and if you guys want to use it we should!
  548. [22:52:09] <imanalt|phone> Hm are there any viable bugs other than Shelmet as lavesta?
  549. [22:52:27] <&elevator_music> natu, larvesta, shelmet, a murkrow all fit some criteria we're looking for
  550. [22:52:29] <&elevator_music> ummmmmm
  551. [22:52:33] <@merp> skorpi is fun
  552. [22:52:40] <&elevator_music> dwebble but
  553. [22:52:42] <@merp> but no recovery makes it not perfect
  554. [22:54:05] <imanalt|phone> Hm are there any legit fliers that resist fighting?
  555. [22:54:10] <@merp> nope
  556. [22:54:15] <&elevator_music> numel also threatens those three trouble pokemon
  557. [22:54:16] <@merp> lol
  558. [22:54:25] <&elevator_music> though doesnt help with fighters
  559. [22:54:32] <Pikachu> I mentioned numel earlier
  560. [22:54:36] <@merp> numel, the scraggy bait
  561. [22:55:10] <&elevator_music> numel usually wins one on one if scraggy is coming in on it lol
  562. [22:55:40] <Pikachu> give it hp fighting then
  563. [22:55:46] <imanalt|phone> :o
  564. [22:55:50] <&elevator_music> anyways im fine with shelmet if you guys want to use it
  565. [22:56:00] <imanalt|phone> Shelmet seems cool
  566. [22:56:13] <&elevator_music> then we just need something that checks murkrow and can also threaten bronzor/grass-types
  567. [22:56:28] <&elevator_music> because shelmet can do those but in a very loose sense of the word threaten
  568. [22:56:38] <imanalt|phone> Cranidos beats bronzor and krow!
  569. [22:56:40] <&elevator_music> and just making foongus switch out doesnt really help you beat it :S
  570. [22:57:06] <imanalt|phone> Doesn't do shit vs grasses though
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  572. [22:57:40] <Pikachu> numel
  573. [22:57:41] <Pikachu> go
  574. [22:57:55] <&elevator_music> numel cant switch in to murkrow though :(
  575. [22:58:10] <Pikachu> fire stab to kill bronzor
  576. [22:58:17] <Pikachu> murkrow trolls
  577. [22:58:22] <Pikachu> unless
  578. [22:58:30] <&elevator_music> anyways
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  580. [22:58:34] <Pikachu> numel snuck in a simple flame charge
  581. [22:58:34] <&elevator_music> the obvious choice is magnemite
  582. [22:59:01] <imanalt|phone> Mm then were too reliant on Shelmet to sponge fighting hits
  583. [22:59:13] <Ulysses> pikachu that requires investing in speed
  584. [22:59:42] <&elevator_music> idk
  585. [22:59:44] <Ulysses> !pstats shelmet
  586. [22:59:45] <+pstats> Shelmet [Bug] Hydration/Shell Armor/Overcoat (DW) | 50/40/85/40/65/25 | LC | GK/LK: 20 BP
  587. [22:59:52] <&elevator_music> hippopotas can switch in on weaker mienfoo and croagunk
  588. [22:59:58] <imanalt|phone> True
  589. [23:01:08] <&elevator_music> so
  590. [23:01:18] <&elevator_music> hippopotas/lileep/drilbur/munchlax/shelmet/magnemite
  591. [23:01:23] <&elevator_music> anyone see any problems there?
  592. [23:01:31] <&elevator_music> macle prem
  593. [23:01:45] <Pikachu> whats munchlax's purpose
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  595. [23:01:58] <&elevator_music> destroy snover
  596. [23:02:03] <Pikachu> good
  597. [23:02:04] <Ulysses> does any of that really beat krow
  598. [23:02:17] <imanalt|phone> Mahnemite
  599. [23:02:18] <&elevator_music> magnemite will beat the variants that are annoying
  600. [23:02:27] <&elevator_music> mixkrow will die really fast
  601. [23:02:39] <Pikachu> unless magnemite is killed first
  602. [23:02:41] <&elevator_music> and can only come in on shelmet anyways
  603. [23:03:05] <Ulysses> wha set on magnemite
  604. [23:03:10] <Ulysses> *what
  605. [23:03:15] <&elevator_music> bulky eviolite
  606. [23:03:22] <&elevator_music> you can just take whatever we used before
  607. [23:03:23] <Ulysses> kk
  608. [23:03:28] <&elevator_music> i think in the first teambuilding session
  609. [23:04:19] <&elevator_music> so are we done?
  610. [23:04:26] <imanalt|phone> I guess?
  611. [23:04:32] <&elevator_music> alright then
  612. [23:04:35] <&elevator_music> sand is really easy in lc
  613. [23:04:39] <imanalt|phone> Lol
  614. [23:04:55] <imanalt|phone> Needs moar Cranidos, but good enough :)
  615. [23:05:05] <Ulysses> magnemite can take snover too
  616. [23:05:11] <&elevator_music> hippo drilbur, then cover snover and major major pokemon (murkrow, usually missy, fighting types, water types that are usually beat by lileep or ferro)
  617. [23:05:39] <&elevator_music> most other offensive pokemon arent an issue because drilbur can easily revenge them
  618. [23:05:47] <Ulysses> how do you beat other sand though
  619. [23:05:49] <Ulysses> :o
  620. [23:05:50] <&elevator_music> oh also you need to take out the few pokemon that can beat drilbur heh, of course
  621. [23:06:05] <&elevator_music> thats a valid question!
  622. [23:06:06] <&elevator_music> idk
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  625. [23:06:31] <imanalt|phone> Other sand looks scary
  626. [23:06:34] <&elevator_music> i guess we'll have to play carefully against it, though i think both hippo and lileep can take +2 eqs
  627. [23:06:39] <imanalt|phone> Maybe we should do something about that
  628. [23:06:52] <Pikachu> add a water type
  629. [23:07:04] <Pikachu> or a cloud nine lickitung
  630. [23:07:40] <&elevator_music> neither of those really help except maybe slowpoke (but thats basically the same as lileep as far as beating drilbur goes)
  631. [23:07:42] * PDC_ (~PDC@synIRC-6B8CCB1F.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Client exited)
  632. [23:08:00] <&elevator_music> anyways if you want to replace a pokemon, munchlax is the poke that should go
  633. [23:08:11] * PDC_ (~PDC@synIRC-6B8CCB1F.lightspeed.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #littlecup
  634. [23:08:15] <&elevator_music> for a poke that can check drilbur (and preferably isnt scared of snover)
  635. [23:08:21] * RayJay (~RayJay@synIRC-529E4D6D.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #littlecup
  636. [23:08:21] * Cerberus sets mode: +ao RayJay RayJay
  637. [23:08:30] <&elevator_music> i think the team is fine though
  638. [23:08:32] * &macle (macle@If.youll.be.my.Louisiana.Ill.be.your.Mississippi) Quit (Quit: )
  639. [23:08:36] <&elevator_music> with careful play other sand wont be too bad
  640. [23:08:39] <Ulysses> drilbur can get in on mite and sweep
  641. [23:08:43] <&elevator_music> you can run jolly drilbur if you're really scared
  642. [23:08:53] <&elevator_music> just sac magnemite?
  643. [23:08:59] * +DTC (Mibbit@synIRC-1874D317.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: :()
  644. [23:09:04] <&elevator_music> it probably wont be too useful against an opposing sand team
  645. [23:09:19] <Pikachu> magnemite has levitate
  646. [23:09:23] <&RayJay> no it doesnt
  647. [23:09:24] <Ulysses> no
  648. [23:09:24] <imanalt|phone> ...
  649. [23:09:29] <Pikachu> oh
  650. [23:09:33] <Pikachu> it doesnt?
  651. [23:09:38] <imanalt|phone> ...
  652. [23:09:53] * Skitten (~cgiirc@synIRC-C2E72C2A.cpe.powergate.ca) has joined #littlecup
  653. [23:10:00] * imanalt|phone (~imanaltph@synIRC-A681052C.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi)
  654. [23:10:45] <Pikachu> never used one
  655. [23:10:53] <Pikachu> just assumed it had levitate
  656. [23:11:19] <Pikachu> I suck
  657. [23:11:21] <Pikachu> night
  658. [23:11:35] * Pikachu (Pikachu@filthy.rat) Quit (Quit: ResTalk)
  659. [23:11:56] <&RayJay> that escalated quickly
  660. [23:12:07] <&elevator_music> anyways
  661. [23:12:23] <&elevator_music> rayjay, hippo/drilbur/lileep/munchlax/shelmet/magnemite
  662. [23:12:43] <&RayJay> does drilbur have spin
  663. [23:13:22] <&elevator_music> no :(
  664. [23:13:23] <&elevator_music> sub sd
  665. [23:13:37] <&RayJay> then what switches into knock off mienfoo when sr is up
  666. [23:13:47] <&elevator_music> hippo?
  667. [23:14:07] <&RayJay> and it gets knocked off tho
  668. [23:14:13] <&RayJay> which sucks
  669. [23:14:22] <&elevator_music> still walls weaker mienfoo
  670. [23:14:30] <&elevator_music> and offensive wont be a problem for drilbur
  671. [23:14:42] <&RayJay> ok
  672. [23:14:44] * imanalt|phone (~imanaltph@synIRC-A681052C.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #littlecup
  673. [23:15:00] <&elevator_music> idk, sand is boring
  674. [23:15:03] <&RayJay> i still am always hesitant about shelmet when you dont have sr, but it looks good nonetheless
  675. [23:15:11] <&elevator_music> ulysses do you have the team build
  676. [23:15:14] <&elevator_music> yeah me too usually
  677. [23:15:19] * Deinosaur (~Deinosaur@5059EB2E.8D70E2B7.ACEBAC07.IP) has joined #littlecup
  678. [23:15:22] <&elevator_music> but idk, not much to do about it i guess
  679. [23:15:28] <Ulysses> no sorry i'm distracted between a bunch of stuff
  680. [23:15:35] <imanalt|phone> Lileep should have sr...
  681. [23:15:38] <&elevator_music> its fine
  682. [23:15:48] <&elevator_music> he means spin hehe
  683. [23:15:51] <imanalt|phone> Oh
  684. [23:15:52] <&RayJay> no spin
  685. [23:15:53] <&RayJay> sorry
  686. [23:15:54] <&RayJay> as in
  687. [23:15:58] <&RayJay> when sr is up on your side
  688. [23:16:00] <imanalt|phone> Mmm
  689. [23:16:01] <&RayJay> and you dont have spin
  690. [23:16:02] <&RayJay> my bad
  691. [23:16:58] <&elevator_music> anyways, im thinking the team is good enough to call this done
  692. [23:17:08] <imanalt|phone> Yeah
  693. [23:17:15] * DTC (Mibbit@synIRC-1874D317.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #littlecup
  694. [23:17:15] * Cerberus sets mode: +v DTC
  695. [23:17:21] <&elevator_music> ill note that opposing sand and knock off mienfoo might be tricky though
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