Full Fafer logs

Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
ok
Fafer-06/30/2017
im here so when you get on the discord poke me
then i can introduce you
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
ok i am on discord
so how do i get my leadership in and assign them the FC thing? just give them the link?
tell them to register?
i am in DCU
Fafer-06/30/2017
yes
do you see admin interface?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I am mobile atm
Fafer-06/30/2017
https://mumbleauth.dcu.space/admin.php
so there you can assign them roles even if they are nor reged
but it is recomended if tehy first reg and connect
pls for start put only top FCs
and we will work from there
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok I just putting execs and VP's
Fafer-06/30/2017
dont put too many
2 per alliance is fine
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok
Fafer-06/30/2017
some did more than 4 I will be cleaning them this wekend
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
There are two other execs I definitely want in with me as we share responsibilities because of my health issues
Fafer-06/30/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
They do all the work :p
Fafer-06/30/2017

Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
is the admin panel you where talking about that website? i can not right click and access the admin panel in discord itsself if thats what you where referring to
Bandit, acks and Joshee are the other execs/directors will they show up in that admin panel once they register?
Fafer-06/30/2017
yes its the website
website controls the mumble and the discord
once youa ccess admin panel, you type their full ingame name on the right side
then they are added to the list below, and you can click checkbox for their role
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
If they register do they automatically show up?
Fafer-06/30/2017
no
you can type full ingame name of member of your alliance, regardless if he is registered
because your alliance is "allowed"
and you are allaince admin
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok
Did karer tell you I was going to be doing some diplo work for him and death?
Fafer-06/30/2017
no
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Probably want to get us settled first it's been a nightmare trying to get moved in
Lol
Fafer-06/30/2017

Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
What's the difference between fc and VIP?
Fafer-06/30/2017
vips have less power regarding the move and mute rights on mumble
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok
It's not letting me add anyone but bandit

Fafer-06/30/2017
that is entity
like when I added your alliance
only admin can add entity
on the right side of page, that you seem dont have, you can add people
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017

Fafer-06/30/2017
yes
green color tahts good
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok how do I assign permissions
Bandit773
Fafer-06/30/2017
http://i.imgur.com/o9H9chz.png

Fafer-06/30/2017
http://i.imgur.com/KxLWlgr.png

Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I don't have thato
Fafer-06/30/2017
so he has now fc roles
well, then you need a tablet or pc
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Acks I couldn't upgrade him to fc either
Is it just not mobile friendly?
Fafer-06/30/2017
i dont know
with your role you maybe cant add sysop, or alliance admin
only fc
but I would like you to try to desktop if possible
he is FC seems you done that
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ok I Will when I get home
Bandit is saying he has a certificate error with mumble
Did I screw something up?
Fafer-06/30/2017
so use the walkthrough
there i a link how to installa nd setup mumble
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
He did
Getting a certificate error for mumble
Fafer-06/30/2017
also do you know what will fcon do
as they will eb reset - attacked by tri sooner or later
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Karer is working with fcon there is an agreement in place
Fafer-06/30/2017
i did not realize you are on the foreplay
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Lol
Fafer-06/30/2017
thats good
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I am everywhere  I have been a spymaster for many years
Fafer-06/30/2017
can I recruit you
lol
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
For what?
Fafer-06/30/2017
to be spymaster
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I think that's what I am being asked to do that and English diplo
Right now just trying to get things wrapped up as it's been three months trying to move in
If you need intel on anything let me know
I have always looked out for drones NC and PL
but yes i think spymaster is supposed to be on of the jobs i am getting roped into/voluntold

Fafer-06/30/2017
ok
there is always lot of work
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I have a very large network and lots of tools including economic Analysis tools
Fafer-06/30/2017
is test moving to help fcon against tri, or, to help tri
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
If Tri turns on us fcon is on our side

Fafer-06/30/2017
i know
but do you know about test
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Test and fcon have a deal
Should be good
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Probably be Tri and co2
Teaming up
Fafer-06/30/2017
mh will be nice mess
tet will not shoot co2
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Honestly if Tri turns on drones maybe let fcon take their place most of the vanguard groups would happily join PF and that would stabilize everything
Tri would just be out on a island
Fafer-06/30/2017
yes
fcon is a bit in sandwich now?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Not really
I would say Tri is
Fafer-06/30/2017
we will have to find someone to be in etherium
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
That's next to kelevala
Fafer-06/30/2017
maybe TC when they are evicted
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Tight
Right
Fafer-06/30/2017
or would fcon want to move?
do they have significant sotyos or such?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Why not just have them stay there and just expand a bit
Yes and keepstars
Fafer-06/30/2017
that works too
well im not sure about co2 they put big fleet
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Pf can do double their numbers
Fafer-06/30/2017
so while say solar and xix are engaged with tri
ok
recent formup was 380 on tri side
180 tri chars
restw as vanguard
many will leave them
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
If they are fighting for their home and more sov they can easily push 600+ just fcon alone
The best scenario would be to have PF absorb vanguard and join the drf/gemico taking tris place tarkinius and karer/death are good friends going way back
If Tri does split
Fafer-06/30/2017
tri will split enentually
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ya I know
Fafer-06/30/2017
i agree that fcon should take tri place
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Patrick has alienated all the vanguard alliances
Fafer-06/30/2017
with reserve that solar and xix must get some space out of war
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Of course
Fafer-06/30/2017
and, in scebario that TC needs home....
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
There is plenty of space
I am going to call tarkinius and warm him up to the idea
I am sure he would just want to know expectations etc but it would be good for him to have at least an idea as I think karer and death are on the same page with that if Tri splits
Fafer-06/30/2017
ok
pls do it
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
He is on board probably need to have an initial meeting me you him karer and uaxdeath sunday
Fafer-06/30/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Test will most likely be on our side
Is NC going to support us all?
Fafer-06/30/2017
if need be im sure
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Figured
Fafer-06/30/2017
that may not be necessary however
because solar and xix can deal with tri
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Especially not if things go smoothly with fcon and test
Fafer-06/30/2017
and with fcon, and test not interfering
yes
co2 is unknown
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
No not interfering they will be on our side
Co2 is allying with tri
Fafer-06/30/2017
then even better
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I already secured that
Fafer-06/30/2017
is this broken love between test and co2?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Test cut a deal with goons
Co2 is pissed
Rather gigx is
Fafer-06/30/2017
how is fcon standing with goons?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Bad
They are trying to sweet talk fcon
Fafer-06/30/2017
still since goons are eyeing fountain, they will not fuck with fcon while fighting with tri
thus tying tri away from goons
as tri are kind of traditional goon bashers
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Goons have been failing against PF
Anyways
Fafer-06/30/2017
ok i poked karer and he has some contact with tark
so, i think its done then
the rest are details
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Either way Tri is really a paper tiger at this point

Fafer-06/30/2017
well
they will lose for sure
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Fafer-06/30/2017
but tehy have some pretyt stubborn idiots
and they have isk
and a keepstar
so it will take some time
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
They have never been team players though
Fafer-06/30/2017
when they fail, they will disband
again
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Hehe
Fafer-06/30/2017
this recent corps are new corps, not old tri material
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Good thing is fcon and pf are honorable and team players
Fafer-06/30/2017
old tri, like doom, bope etc adapted to the game and left
volta left etc
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Fafer-06/30/2017
this people are not guerila
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
That's why I said they are a paper tiger now
Fafer-06/30/2017
of the old
few days ago they formed around 400
190 tri chars and rest is vanguard
but, that vanguard will leave them
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Very rare usually they barely hit 100
Fafer-06/30/2017
especially when we realy the leaks
about tri plans with them, and tri opinions of them
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
But if we put fcon in tris place most of the vanguard groups will join fcon
I already started that btw
Fafer-06/30/2017
i have no prefference here and i would be haooy if they join fcon
some of them may decide to join otehr entities
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Or anyone else in the coalition
Fafer-06/30/2017
yes
some renetr entities will need to be divided
between solar xix fcon
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
They have been working very closely with fcon for months so either them or solar or xix
Fafer-06/30/2017
some will probably go to dcu members
and I will poach 10-15
man
rather, extract them
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017

Rescue them

Fafer-06/30/2017
extract
recall
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Hehe
I understand just being funny
Fafer-06/30/2017
all in all, i will moderate and make sure nobody is greedy
but overall all will be happy especially fcon
and no more extorion money to tri
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup and I will make sure everyone is 100% sold and help behind the scenes
Hehe
Yup
Fafer-06/30/2017
see
you were patient
you and tark
game rewards patient people
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Fafer-06/30/2017
after all

Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
And loyal
Fafer-06/30/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
If I help everything go off without a hitch maybe I can get a upgraded system or two out of the regions about to change hands
For my retirement home
Fafer-06/30/2017
well, yea
that you need to negotiate with tark and karer
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Of course
Fafer-06/30/2017
but i see no problem
if tehre would eb problem....
come to me
I will whisper to the cats
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I don't think they will either I have always taken care of both of them
Fafer-06/30/2017
im only concerned about your health
do not stress
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I am real life friends with uaxdeath I think I will be ok  I just want to make sure things go very smoothly
I am working at putting assets on place to maybe pull of what I did with infamous
Pull off
I doubt anyone will care about one or two systems
Especially since I am sure there is a lot work and phone/skype calls ahead

Fafer-06/30/2017
ofc not
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Shouldn't be much of an issue everyone is RL friends
Fafer-06/30/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Coordinating things with solar and xix groups will probably be the most work
Fafer-06/30/2017
ah I wouldnt worry
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Oh I don't I know you guys got that handled

This will be like the 5th thing I have helped put together like this in the last 10 years
Fafer-06/30/2017
its good feeling isnt it
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup helped lady, helped sort, helped tark build PF etc
It's really good when it's a win win for everyone except the asshole

Mostly it will be just getting everyone in the same room outlining everything and I am sure everyone will be on the same page in about 5 minutes strategically
Of course the devil is in the details on something like this
But everyone on the same page makes it a lot easier
Fafer-06/30/2017
yea
and then we will let fcs do their job
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Yup
Young mans game
Fafer-06/30/2017
and we will overlook them so that there would be no problems
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
I am done with invasions
And wars
Fuck that
I have led a lot of campaigns
Screw that
Weeks of your life disappear
The PF thing alone took almost two month of my life
The eviction on SW last time n3 did it took like almost a month of my life lol
I have zero desire to don any of that shit
Fafer-06/30/2017
where would you like to have your systems
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Not sure our pocket in kelevala is pretty bad and there is only like one decent cluster within jump range
Fafer-06/30/2017
dont you have something in oasa?
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Ya a pipe
Butting up to the old TMA systems
There is a really nice constellation in etherium reach and kelevala depending on things shake out and if things get restructred
Fafer-06/30/2017
link me etherium
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
We really don't want more than we have number of system wise just be too hard to hold properly and start cranking out supers
One sec
Fafer-06/30/2017
bio brb
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
The most amazing would be http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Kalevala_Expanse/2Q-8WA#sec up in there or http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Kalevala_Expanse/8UD2-J#sec or http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Oasa/D4J-PP#sec in oasa
DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: The Kalevala Expanse
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DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: The Kalevala Expanse
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DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Oasa
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Fafer-06/30/2017
Ok ill talk
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Well let's focus on getting this shit handled first
I am not super worried about that I just want things to remain as stable for everyone as possible
Jay Maricadie-06/30/2017
Also OASA =============== #1 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Oasa/D4J-PP#sec #2 http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Oasa/S-Q02B#const #3http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/The_Kalevala_Expanse/8UD2-J#sec might work
DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Oasa
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DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Oasa
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July 1, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/01/2017
Do you have any resources in darkness?
Jay Maricadie-07/01/2017
Do you know what they are planning in north drone lands
Fafer-07/01/2017
no
what do you know about that?
Jay Maricadie-07/01/2017
Not much besides the rumor he is working with goons
Got a bunch of spymasters who owe me favors looking into it
Fafer-07/01/2017
they roam sometimes
i doubt they will attack drone lands at this time its too early for sort to backstab

Jay Maricadie-07/01/2017
Lol
I know for sure he wants to kill NC and PL supers
He still holds a grudge for being evicted
But beyond that nothing for sure
We are not talking anymore
Fafer-07/01/2017
well, i was talking with sort for some time, but he was obnoxious so when I returned in kind, he just cut off comms lol
hes asshole
however he is superpolite to powers so he crawls in their asses
Jay Maricadie-07/01/2017
He fucked me in real life so I cut him off
But he has been building a huge dread bomb with one purpose
July 2, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
What time is the meeting from now I am really bad at in game time conversion
Fafer-07/02/2017
2 hours 30 minutes
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
I am still having mumble issues
Who are you talking to?
D85?
I have a fair bit of intel didn't share any of it didn't know what I should say or not
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
timers are on the board
Did karer talk to you about our moons would like to get them sorted
I am supposed to be head us diplo and spy stuff according to uaxdeath and karer
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
who do we coordinate with for standby backup for our heavy structures?
Fafer-07/02/2017
with DCU
usually you report attack
and then we measure response
DCU are first responders, and if dcu cant handle then we call xix
if you will be anchoring sotyo, or keepstar, under no circumastance do it alone
for such occasions we call everyone
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
What about forts?
We where planning on dropping a bunch at would appreciate having a few people to back us up
Fafer-07/02/2017
forts are not that expensive, but if there is hostile activity, we then look for best timezone based on hostiles and then drop at worst time for them
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
That's why
They already burned perches off them
Fafer-07/02/2017
and we have people cover
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
They are on the timer board
Fafer-07/02/2017
when is the first one
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Like 22 hours from now tommorow
Fafer-07/02/2017
ok then ill ping soon and we will cover
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Appreciate it sotoyos will be going down soon and we are ready to drop our first keepstar
Fafer-07/02/2017
for that dont do anything
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Whicg
Which
Fafer-07/02/2017
we need xix and karer for that
for keepstar
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ok
Sotoyo?
Fafer-07/02/2017
nope
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Same as keep
Fafer-07/02/2017
lets do few forts first
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ok I will have him drop them all
Fafer-07/02/2017
lol no
wait
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Lol
Ok
I think we just have two onlinibg now
Or rather come out tommorow
Fafer-07/02/2017
can you post that but on leadership forum and not on timerboard
what where when
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
I don't think I'm on that yet
Fafer-07/02/2017
on timerboards I see some sov timers and paisti pos
well if some forts of yours are onliing tmorrow we need timers
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ok when I get home I will
Fafer-07/02/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
What's the link for the forums
Fafer-07/02/2017
post that but on leadership forum and not on timerboard
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
And who should be on it
Fafer-07/02/2017
ah sorry
on discord
in the channel
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Oh ok
Fafer-07/02/2017
my bad
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Where do I need to register for the super stuff or just wait till we are settled
I am on the road with the wife I will talk to you a bit later
Fafer-07/02/2017
link is in motd of the #coallition on the dcu discord
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ok
Most of our guys are super or Titan pilots even though our focus for the coalition is going to be almost entirely industrial
Fafer-07/02/2017
well if they are not going to fly, then dont bring them in
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
We will be able to rival goons for production
No we where planning on just have a nice solid super fleet for local assistance
And policing
Fafer-07/02/2017
you cant do that like that Jay
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
But some would probably like to fly with the coalition maybe
Fafer-07/02/2017
minimum requrements is 30 supers, 10 fax and 10 carriers
and thats where no dreadbombs are around
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
For what?
Fafer-07/02/2017
otherwise you will have 100 peole from wh swarming over your supers, kill their drones and kill them
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
I think we are talking about two separate things
But that should not be an issue
Fafer-07/02/2017
you want to have "local support"
there is no local support in a sense you want to drop "few" supers
tehy will be noticed and next time killed
kalevala is not deep in nullsec enough
so, only way is to have batphone
and that is coallition fleet
that needs to be in range
ill explain you in details later

Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Once we get producing and get our keepstar down everyone pretty much will have a super or Titan lol
We can produce about 20 supers a day comfortably more once we really get going
Fafer-07/02/2017
yea and PL super fleet on 2 mids away
trust me
im very excited that you will have this things, but i dont want them killed lol
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
But I just want to make sure everyone knows our main focus is to pump out supers and titans at cost to support the coalition
Fafer-07/02/2017
thats why i would like your facilities in oasa
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Wasn't sure if fafer communicated that
We are open to it definitly
Fafer-07/02/2017
if possible
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Need more ice belts we can kill our one ice belt in literally 10 minutes
And some dead ends for production
Fafer-07/02/2017
kalevala is not good place to have sotyos
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Or the system index will be insane
Ya karer said it's probably temp

Fafer-07/02/2017
as for the rest, i have nice keepstar in maila, so whats excess you can sell there
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ya lady and pl are interested in buying our surplus
Fafer-07/02/2017
https://netc.space/Map
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
When we looked at oasa there was too much going on with karer a health and such
Anyways I sent you some ideas about oasa
For the future
Fafer-07/02/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
With 3-400 rorqs plus tens make a difference lol
Fafer-07/02/2017
yea, this will require some planing
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Well now that karer is back the majority of things should be good
Just a matter of getting all this immediate stuff dealt with
What's KSA's alliance name
Fafer-07/02/2017
killswitch alliance
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ahh ok
Fafer-07/02/2017
do you still have skype?
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Yes karer was supposed to be getting me in a bunch of channels or something
Fafer-07/02/2017
yes , i suppose it will be
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Can I add bandit773 to leadership since he is really the CEO and handles all the alliance level crap
And if I am not available for health or whatever he needs to be able to speak for blue sun just as I do
Fafer-07/02/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
And honestly I have zero desire to deal with alliance shit and he doesn't want to deal with coalition shit
He was there for the discussions with karer and uaxdeath
I don't want to have to play middle man
Ty
Fafer-07/02/2017

Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Give him the purple :p
Purple nurple
Ty sir
Will he have to re-log for that to be updated
?
sorry forgot to make that a question
Fafer-07/02/2017
no
bot will update from database at preset interval and he will appear within the doscord channel
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Ok
Ty sir
Fafer-07/02/2017
http://i.imgur.com/qolIxvn.png

Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Yes
i will get you a more flushed out good better best on oasa per your suggestion
Fafer-07/02/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
O9k-FT Fortizar 2037 Eve time 07/03 RQOO-U Fortizar 2204 Eve time 07/03 O9k-FT Azbel 2352 Eve time 07/03
Is that good format for leadership channel
Fafer-07/02/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/02/2017
Do you want to link it since I am new or should I?
July 3, 2017
Fafer-07/03/2017
well, Tarkin seems not so commited
[12:33:45 PM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/Tarkin-FCON: Our biggest concern is getting a reputation for breaking nips. We want tri to act before we do so it's obvious there is justification for our actions [12:35:15 PM] Just Buch: we have leak from tri leadership forum where they plan attack on solar and you [12:35:28 PM] Just Buch: and to poach from vanguard, and then tell them to fuck off [12:35:41 PM] Just Buch: its eviidnce and it will be elaked on kugu soon [12:35:50 PM] Just Buch: undisputable [12:36:37 PM] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/Tarkin-FCON: Chatter and actions are two separate things. We can work with it but we do have that concern about our long term reputation.
I was told by Jay that you are on board and that you have test support that is, that test would help fcon
also didnt tri broke the nip by placing citadels into your space there is mentioning that in the leak,a nd plans to repeat that
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Why did you guys talk to him without talking to me first
And he is
Fcon has always been concerned about reputation
Karer and uaxdeath neither of them got on and talk with him btw
Fafer-07/03/2017
i talked to karer and he agreed to proceed
and I did that because of info I understood from you
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
lol it's good karer needs to get the fuck on tonight and talk to him and us like was discussed
And he is on board
Fafer-07/03/2017
well i pasted the fragment to tark

Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
He is just telling you his one concern is perception
That it needs to be managed
Fafer-07/03/2017
fucking software can copy the pic properly

Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Lol
Anyways all he is saying is if possible they want Tri to hang themselves in the court of public opinion
Fafer-07/03/2017
that should really attract his attention
well
when this will be elaked
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Laz is gonna leak stuff today I thought
Fafer-07/03/2017
yea
looks lke they are still scrubbing
can you have conversation with Tark
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
I talked to him most of last night waiting for karer to log on
What do you want me to talk to him about
Fafer-07/03/2017
well karer is around and 4-5 eve
and onwards
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Ok
That should work tonight
Fafer-07/03/2017
maybe he will be today eutz
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Tark is onboard
He just wants the ammunition to spin it
Fafer-07/03/2017
but, tark needs to say something in that channel, like "can we have a meeting"
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Which channel?
Fafer-07/03/2017
i will poke Laz to speed up
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
He will do it regardless if need be
But really wants them to break everythibg
Fafer-07/03/2017
i draged him to karer and mactep so they can talk about drf membership for fcon
and to decide who gets waht and who does what where when
like, to make agreement
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Can you bring me in to so I can make sure you guys are not misunderstanding each other
Fafer-07/03/2017
i would like to but they said they want tark first
(its gay I know)
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
And I told tark I would be there with him every step of the way
Fafer-07/03/2017
but you will know from me and trak what did they talk about
ok then its up to tark to drag yuo in as his atachee
consigliere
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Can we talk on voic
Fafer-07/03/2017
whatever the word is lol
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Lol
Fafer-07/03/2017
yes we can, can you do skype
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Ya
Fafer-07/03/2017
ill call you in a minute
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
I have the rough draft sorted out for what we talked about oasa wise also I triple checked with tark is 110% onboard just a misunderstanding as I thought
He is just waiting for fafer and everyone to wake up
The time difference is a bitch
Fafer-07/03/2017
yes
we will have short voice meeting tomorrow 11 eve time
that is him and karer if i catch karer
that would be start
can you try to find where test is planing to go in 3 weeks?
they announced war
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
right now its supposed to be against stain but everything is telling me that is a ruse to make sure they are on a war footing if the co2 crap turns out to be true but yes i will dig more
tark said he put in the channel that he would like me in there as well
Fafer-07/03/2017
yes
i will make sure you do
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
i am going to send you the document it is rough draft so please don't share it
Fafer-07/03/2017
however let this russians have their way - they want tark
i have observed same behaviour last few times
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
he is on board is only concern is miscommunications due to language/culture misunderstandings but other than all is good
Fafer-07/03/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
happened last time when PF first moved down south and i had to jump in with Gharst and everyone
Rough draft
OASAOptions.rtf
3.62 KB
can you open it?
Fafer-07/03/2017
yes
i downloaded it and now opening
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
ok i have to run to the store

Fafer-07/03/2017
tark proposed to pull you in that skype convo
i kind of supporetd that, but also said we need to go as per xix request
i did that in order not to screw anything
but also, tomorrow after they talk in voice, around 11 eve, we will pull you in
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
He is operating on 3 hours of sleep he just started that new job with amazon
I will wake up and be Availible all morning early
That's tricking early for me lol
Fricking lol
Fafer-07/03/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Let me know if you think I should change anything on that document and I will change it and finalize it
Fafer-07/03/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Next two weeks is going to be a fair bit of interesting work
Fafer-07/03/2017
can you also please add to the document the systems you have / are renting in kalevala and oasa
we are probably looking for a constellation
2 or 3 doesnt seem realistic, but also depends where
minimally, we would like you to have seure system in oasa to build supers
kalevala is not safe
Jay Maricadie-07/03/2017
Ya I was assuming we would either give kelevala back to karer or who knows
We are not renters lol
Splitting like that would be really hard
I think two pockets in oasa would be perfect
Depends how all this restructuring goes
Do we want to control the media narrative ?
I can do that too
Matterall will do an article, en24, crossing zebras and I regularly do a couple podcasts
Manny bothans etc
July 4, 2017
Fafer-07/04/2017
Yes we will control yhe media
You will help, we will to that together
Jay Maricadie-07/04/2017
How goes it?
I hope you guys aren't asking them to move north right off the get go
Going good? Bad?
Jay Maricadie-07/04/2017
Done in the restroom now
Jay Maricadie-07/04/2017
I think may be able to keep co2 out of it in addition to test
July 5, 2017
Fafer-07/05/2017
[2017-07-04 10:21:30 PM] Just Buch: he sent you the file [2017-07-04 10:21:56 PM] Just Buch: its TRI acting badly and going against allies [10:03:47 PM] Matterall: thank you [10:04:28 PM] Just Buch: if possible we would like tri exposed as backstabers [10:04:48 PM] Just Buch: "they had everything, but now backstabing friends and allies" [10:05:30 PM] Matterall: I'll talkt o Jay and try to understand what is going on
Jay Maricadie-07/05/2017
Awesome
Jay Maricadie-07/05/2017
Ty
July 6, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/06/2017
sorry at work
it should all be sorted tommorow on the high level
was there anything i missed
Fafer-07/06/2017
ok
nah
tri is making move out of er/spire
en24 article today
Jay Maricadie-07/06/2017
ok
tark is off work all day tommorow
and UAX should be availible a few hours tommorow too
once that happens i am supposed to coordinate the anti widot operation as well to see if we can retain as many of the good groups as possible in addition to all the other coordination BS we will have to do
July 7, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/07/2017
my apologies for not being at the meeting i was conferencing a call between death and Tark
Fafer-07/07/2017
Nbd it was more about theorycrafting
July 8, 2017
Fafer-07/08/2017
hello jay
how are things going
can you poke me pls when you can
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Yes I am here
Fafer-07/08/2017
ok
so, regarding what you said on the skype
is phoenix ready to go to war, provided there is narrative with evidence, or, does Tarkin still want to wait TRI to mkae move
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Well uaxdeath said he wanted to see what Tri did once we announced it
But yes they are ready to get going
Fafer-07/08/2017
now solar also want to wait tri
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
They may just Evac once this comes out
Especially if co2 stays out of it and test
Fafer-07/08/2017
tri will not evac from insmother
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
We do need to get PF leadership into channels and discord and all of that for military coordination
Fafer-07/08/2017
http://evenews24.com/2017/07/06/triumvirate-leaks-damaging-relations-with-drone-region-federation/
so we have one article already
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Me and you should probably talk sometime today or tommorow to coordinate what we are doing
Fafer-07/08/2017
what are the requirements for the other one
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
That PF is joining gemico death wanted to point to their untrustworthyness etc
Can we do a quick call typing on a phone is really hard
Fafer-07/08/2017
nah we will do that tomorrow im dead tired
but i think whats most important for tomorrow is that we establish some proper feedback loop between xix pf/fcon and solar
cause right now its kind of fragmented
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Ok I also want to make sure me and you are synced as I am supposed to be coordinating with PF under uax and karer and I want make sure I am not stepping on your toes in any way
Yes I agree it's not good
Fafer-07/08/2017
and that means tark will have to either wake up or stay a bit
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
We need much better communication between everyone
Fafer-07/08/2017
i dont want to start making military channels before the political agreement
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
That has been somewhat been handled
Yes
Agreed
Fafer-07/08/2017
yea but, you know what I mean
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Tark has assigned his vice
I know him well he will be point with me to get done whatever is needed to be done sov, military etc
Tark and death should both be around tommorow though
They are hoping we can sync the article with what they are going to press release and release it after they have their official coalition meeting to announce it to the rank and file of that makes sense
Fafer-07/08/2017
we can do that
but, agreement first, formal one
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
They are going to do a fcon specific piece after but I want to make sure the narrative is clear across all of then
Yes
Fafer-07/08/2017
lets work on that tomorrow
as task
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Sounds good
I partially debriefed lady at the request of death so she knows what is going on as well
As Far as the details of the Conversation between death and tarkinius
And we talked about how horrible mittens is
Fafer-07/08/2017
yes death has memories lol
so
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Death and him used to be good friends
Fafer-07/08/2017
tomorrow we herd the lead cats
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Yup
Fafer-07/08/2017
and make the deal, at east on high level
there will be decision about wether to attack first or wait for tri to make first move
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Do you know if lady ended up buying spire and etherium?
Fafer-07/08/2017
so far, solar voice is wait
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
I haven't had a chance to follow up
Fafer-07/08/2017
xix wants war but will do what other say
and fcon voice was to wait
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Who in xix wants war
Fafer-07/08/2017
karer
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Ahh ok
Fafer-07/08/2017
he is pragmatic
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Haven't caught up with him
Fafer-07/08/2017
still, even without decision to attack first, a frame agreement can be made
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
If you talk to him first can you ask him to ping me I have some things to pass to him from death

Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
It makes sense strategically imo but my opinion doesn't matter either way
Fafer-07/08/2017
we have a say in croatia
its say something like "first jump and they say 'hop'"
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Hehe
Similar saying in the us
They say jump we say how high
Fafer-07/08/2017
or, don't make a barbique while rabbit is in the woods
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Lol
The communications improvement really makes sense especially with the language barrier between Russian and English groups
Now we are probably pretty close to 60% Russian and 40% English with PF joining
I think
Death should be making my position clear to everyone this weekend as well so I hopefully won't have to bug you or karer as much for stupid small shit lol
I am trying not to bug and annoy to much
Fafer-07/08/2017
i dont think thats correct percentage
i think now , russians are solar and xix ad some gemico
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
PF is like 10k us speaking
Fafer-07/08/2017
dcu and otehr part are english speaker
with pf, it will be 60% english speakers
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
Ahh I thought it was more of a even split
ok you should head to bed and i need to head to the store
also was curious i know d85 is kinda on shakey ground any idea what is going to be done with them?
Fafer-07/08/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
told to merge like KSA?
Fafer-07/08/2017
tehy have one more chance, after i told them they should switch to autocracy model from their nonfunctional democracy
Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
democracies are soooooo bad
Fafer-07/08/2017
yea
nn

Jay Maricadie-07/08/2017
you too
July 10, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
Time to talk later about the evenews24 story? Also has serpaph agreed to let us see it and make changes? If not I know Johann in real life and support them financially so I am sure he will do whatever we need
Tark and yomod are about done with their press release so we can sync up the two to make sure the narrative matches up
Fafer-07/10/2017
hi there
serpah already made evenews story
so i understand this si new effort
however what worries me, is that I have yet not seen any high level agreement between fcon and drf
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
They already made it on the phone
Last week
UAX and Tark had a phone call and agreed on the high level
Fafer-07/10/2017
yes, but i have impression that space has not been divided, and that start date also
like, last thing i heard is tehy are eaiting for tri to make first move
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
Let's talk later today when I am out of my meetings and we can catch up
Fafer-07/10/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
Because yes the sov and military coordination needs to start
Fafer-07/10/2017
and, Tark should also make clear your position
last thing he said is that yuo dont speakk for fcon
which pisses me off
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
I dont
I report to uaxdeath and karer not Tark
Yomod speaks for PF
Fafer-07/10/2017
also would be nice for uax to make some sort of announcement
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
He was supposed to this weekend
Had a funeral
Everything is still disconnected communications and coordination wise
Fafer-07/10/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
I been texting Uax and karer to get on so we can start doing our job I got PF as ready as I can
Fafer-07/10/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
Do you have a list of everyone's military leaders sov coordinators etc
Fafer-07/10/2017
no but thas not problem
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
?
We are going to want to make sure all the major groups have good lines of communication and know who is who and who they should coordinate with
?
Fafer-07/10/2017
yes
Fafer-07/10/2017
but first thing is we need to get some things done between those 3 cats
and Tarkin should be more proactive
as well as others
once done, we will just dogpile represenatives on another channel expanded top level, and also make military channel for fcs
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
They have been it is falling down with karer and uaxdeath because of RL
I have talked to them a dozen times this weekend
But uaxdeath needs to kick it off
Anyways in a meeting RL let's talk in a while
Trying to type everything on a phone in the middle of a meeting is really hard
Sorry for it being short reponses
Fafer-07/10/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-07/10/2017
Did you already get evenews24 teed up? Or where you waiting for us to talk

Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
No rush
Was there anything else cooking?
I am about to step out for a bit
Fafer-07/13/2017
nah
all is bonanza
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
Should have a draft for us all to review in the next day or two
And he has agreed to our timeline 100% I direct the articles timeline and content 100%
So we are good
Fafer-07/13/2017
kk
ill need to drag you in few channels
but we will do that over the weekend
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
No rush on the channels I do not miss being in all of the stupid channels lol

my Skype has been a lot more peaceful the last year or so
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
You got 5
Fafer-07/13/2017
5?
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
5 minutes to talk on voice sorry for the shorthand
Fafer-07/13/2017
ok but let me move ill call your skype ok?
in a moment
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017
Ok
Jay Maricadie-07/13/2017

July 14, 2017
Fafer-07/14/2017
Ok
I have meeting today with d85
Also seems somebody tolr them they will be renters for phoenix coalition
Lolz so they are all in high state of alarm haha
I hope it wasnt you
Like i said we cant deal with them atm because we have tri situation
Also when the time comes, it belongs to xix
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Lol no I have not talked to them at all
Renters for Phoenix federation lol sounds like someone was trolling them and they bought it
That's why I went through you instead of going to them directly I didn't want to be seen abusing my power or position lol
Fafer-07/14/2017
im having a meeting with d85 in 3 hours
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
That sounds fun
Need a second?
I can make myself available if needed
Fafer-07/14/2017
nah i will just tell them to hand over the moons
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
No I was talking about if you needed a witness I usually do potentially contentious meetings with a second or witness so no one can make bullshit up
Just saying if you needed witness I could be availible
Also wasn't sure if it was going to be A contentious meeting
Fafer-07/14/2017
this will not be contentious meeting
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017

Just figured I would offer as I am sure I will request the same from you in the future
Fafer-07/14/2017
i think its better that you are not present this time
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Probably
Never talked to them myself
Fafer-07/14/2017
you will
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Well I hope it goes well
Fafer-07/14/2017
it will go well
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Lol you are very confident
Fafer-07/14/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
The meeting is more than just about the crappy moons in kelevala right?
Fafer-07/14/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Ok
I was hoping you where not just meeting with them about just that lol
Fafer-07/14/2017
im trying to save them
and stabilize
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
I hope that works out
Fafer-07/14/2017
make them come to fleets etc
well, if not, then they are renters
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Less instability and drama would be nice
Fafer-07/14/2017
but like I said not now with this tri situation, or they will just flip the keepstars
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
That would be bad

Tri would go for it I am sure
Fafer-07/14/2017
yes, so thats why its not going to happen
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Right now it looks almost 100% they are going to hit fcon
Fafer-07/14/2017
who know maybe they recover?
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Tri?
Fafer-07/14/2017
d85
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Ahh
Depends on their leadership
What are your plans on spire and have you talked to uaxdeath the last couple of days I know he was working on a small thing with spire
Fafer-07/14/2017
bot will get constellation or 2, explicit wil get constellation, 1 system for special person
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
System or constellation?
Fafer-07/14/2017
and few systems for razor
so thats why i delayed with pantsuftan
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
I am neutral on that
Fafer-07/14/2017
also im of opinion, since fcon doesnt want to move closer, that we need army to put in between as there wil be huge vaccum
vacuum
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Well that's why we need to get everyone coordinating and talking UAX talked with someone about potentially a constellation in spire
Pantsu could be a double edged sword
Fafer-07/14/2017
thing is he as on the north and everybody hated him
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
I think he is afraid enough of you lady and me to stay in line but with him you never know
Fafer-07/14/2017
cause he did shit
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
I know
Fafer-07/14/2017
and then he went south
and did shit
until he came to PF
tri almost killed fcon that time lol
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Well he was told PF was his last chance lady asked me if I would give him a shot
Yes I know I was in the middle of that negotiation remember
Fafer-07/14/2017
so why is he moving now
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
Almost blew up the negotiation
Fafer-07/14/2017
shouldnt he fight with PF
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
He is
Just his idea is once it all settles out he moves to spire to give PF a northern staging area if shit ever happens in the north
And honestly a lot of PF leadership is very annoyed with him I think
But he has been trying to get space there for years now
But I do think he is smart enough not to DICK around with lady or your stuff or coalition shit
Hence why I am neutral
But I know most of eve do not like him
Definitely should talk to uaxdeath or confirm that I can speak now so that things go smoothly
Kinda frustrating being in the middle but not being able to say or do anything really
Oh well if drama comes of the left hand and right not communicating it's on karer and uaxdeath
I am tired of feeling like I am stepping on people's toes or not being able to communicate with people because they don't have any clue who I am lol
Anywho good luck with d85 hopefully it goes well
Afk for a few
Jay Maricadie-07/14/2017
back
Fafer-07/14/2017
They will handover the moons
Be polite from your side
Maybe offer to buy modules as per jita price

Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
We got accused of being a bigger blue donut than CFC
Fafer-07/16/2017
well thats true
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
And everything can be done can be done in the hospital bed
Fafer-07/16/2017
but cfc are jelly because we are better cfc then they were lol
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Oh I know just wait till this all sorts out
Then it will be really true

Fafer-07/16/2017
it already is
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I know
It's just funny
Fafer-07/16/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Pot calling the kettle black and all
He is just mad scion shit the bed
And black hand was asleep at the wheel
Fafer-07/16/2017
sion did nothing wrong imo
it was just it
mittani was asleep
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
At the meta level he screwed the pooch
Fafer-07/16/2017
it was the rebranding effort and kickstar
kickstarter
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
If vile had been around WWB would never have happened imo
Fafer-07/16/2017
i remember sion was against kickstarter
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
It started well before that
Started right after b-r
Fafer-07/16/2017
tbh the whole rebranding thing
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Ya that didn't help
But scion didn't know when to be humble
Internally or externally
And their spy's where non existent
Bad thing is they have learned from a majority of their mistakes
And are actively trying to get people at each other's throats and to lull as many people into thinking that the goons are a shadow of what they where up north
Luckily we don't seem to be a primary target for anything they are doing ATM
Besides the tri shit
But that's more aimed at fcon, test/co2
Fafer-07/16/2017
test and co2 were in wwb, so its natural
thats why I wanted to see fcon much near the drone lands
then they would be "drone lands" and cfc has absolutely no interest atm for it
but, Tark cant see that
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I will handle it just want to lead him to that I think they need to shift at least a region or two north imo
Fafer-07/16/2017
yea
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
When they moved down south and I handled that with sort and lady and him I kinda steam rolled him don't want to do that unless I have to
He owes me in real life and in game but I don't think goons is willing to risk their plans for SW
It will get there
Fafer-07/16/2017
later can be more painful
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Yup
Fafer-07/16/2017
is fcon some kind of democracy?
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Kinda not really
Fafer-07/16/2017
wel, there it is then
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I need to talk about that with you as I need your support and lady's support to deal with that aspect
Both me and UAX told him any semblance of democracy is dead
Fafer-07/16/2017
i recently held a lecture to db8 how democracy is stupid in eve
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Yup
I have been telling him since cfc days that
And it's not a true democracy
Like d85
You got a few to talk about that sometime today
About tark
Fafer-07/16/2017
yes
we can do now
im drawing a map
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Hehe
Fafer-07/16/2017
we can do skype voice
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Ok
Ms paint according to mittens
Is how sov is decided lol
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Sorry wasn't trying to be rude my crohns was going nuts
With the space that xwx is getting you think they would be interested in giving up a constellation on oasa?

I think one of the constellations we where interested in was owned by them
Just a thought
I just don't want to propose it directly as it would be a conflict of interest
Fafer-07/16/2017
you are now xwx diplo you have direct line with god emporor
lol
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
lol I don't want to abuse that lol
I have to put the coalition first
I am sure a few people will be annoyed in the next month or so I don't want to add to it
Heck that's why I haven't reached out to d85 yet
They have not messaged me or bandit
Fafer-07/16/2017
so have bandit mail or chase falklord
and schedule the details
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Ok I will have him do it so it doesn't look baf
Bad
You have intel assets in d85 so you will have a heads up if they try anything with tri?
If you do I have an idea how to nueter that whole situation if it goes as bad as it possibly could
Fafer-07/16/2017
i will
they are not trying anything with tri
situation is neutered
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I get it but if it goes bad take their one keepstar and make them an offer to sell both or loose everything in the one and get the other blown up

Fafer-07/16/2017
they are non issue atm
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
That's why I was saying if you get a heads up anything funky was going on
Just a plan b and plan c
Fafer-07/16/2017
their miitary leader is my member now
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017

Sorry I always like to have many back up plans
Fafer-07/16/2017

there will come time to solve the question of d85, but right now at this moment, leave them alone, we dont need that atm
when situation with tri will be sorted, then we shall see
based on their participation in the fleets
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I have zero intention of doing anything just planning and ideas
Plan for the worst hope for the best
on another note once manny takes pants corps i think he will be very happy to simply be a sov holding alliance period imo i just plan on having him be patient and then when it comes time its going to be simply dude you can't hold the space you have currently why would you want more
if that makes sense
Fafer-07/16/2017
we shall see how he will develop
i would want him to make it up because he will then be good buffer, and for er also
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
for now i am just going to tell him to be patient
on another note lxq is there a astra in there we can get standings with or can i put one down in there as that is our preferred logistics route
the system xix is taking
pants is calling me lol
brb
Fafer-07/16/2017
we sneaked in bope fortizar in lxq and paala(edited)
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017

Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
is it you or lady that handles standings for bot?
Fafer-07/16/2017
we do it both, but you should go to her
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
ok
god i hurt nothing some good pain meds and steroids wont fix
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
did you look at the story?
Fafer-07/16/2017
no after the at traiinng will
Fafer-07/16/2017
do you ahve a link jay?
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
In skype
They have been commenting on it
It's the rough rough almost done with the grammar and editing
Fafer-07/16/2017
ok i see it
So before I dive too deep into the current political tensions I will briefly cover the history that has led us to this point. Prior to World War Bee (WWB) Triumvirate moved to the south-east and with the blessing of GemiCo/DRF leadership were given space in Etherium Reach and formed their own small coalition (Vanguard) which from that point on started strengthening as
there is en24 article about that http://evenews24.com/2015/07/26/dominions-last-great-war-ends-solar-and-xix/
Eve News24
Matterall
Dominion's Last Great War Ends: Solar and XIX

Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
ty i couldn't find it
and wasnt sure if you wanted it in there
who is sword of damocles?
Fafer-07/16/2017
um
name rings a bel
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
ya same here
Fafer-07/16/2017
it could be general gree relatd
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
i thought vanguard had a nip with them
Fafer-07/16/2017
he is old A
is good text
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
I will send out the final right before it goes to print
Just getting some quotes and some additional very damning evidence
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Fafer-07/16/2017

Fafer-07/16/2017
i linked article to ls
just inform her
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
ok
final is in skype

Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
just some added killmails and stuff
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
You listening to the show
Fafer-07/16/2017
No i watched the got s07e01 and i also spied a lot wnd things i do and now im going to sleep
Nn
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Uaxdeath is on

Fafer-07/16/2017
Btw spire is sorted
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Awesome
Fafer-07/16/2017
Please try to find about protean alliance
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Busy putting the nails in tri
With all of null
Fafer-07/16/2017
They are getting sov from tri in er
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
They are confirming tri backstabbing
Even Tark is on here

Fafer-07/16/2017
Awesome
We need to know if protean alliance is trojan horse
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
Ok I will find out
After the show
Jay Maricadie-07/16/2017
What's the concern with protean?
Sorry I am passing out be up in a few hours been a long last week especially the last 24 hours
July 17, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/17/2017
Do you already have the various coordination channels up and running?
Tri is responding
They started moving their heavy shit into detroid
Fafer-07/17/2017
Test corp is joining tri
Rusrog
They made them blue
Jay Maricadie-07/17/2017
Yup
One of the stronger test corps
They been planning on it for a week
They are burning the earth on their way out though
Completely pissed off test leadership
They where leaving under good terms
Fafer-07/17/2017
Good
Jay Maricadie-07/17/2017
It couldn't be better
Call
?
I need help big time
Fafer-07/17/2017
Sec
Fafer started a call.07/17/2017
Jay Maricadie-07/17/2017
sorry i ended up getting sick after our call, my head is throbbing what was the name of the group we wanted to stir things up with again sorry my bring is fried because of all the throwing up
Fafer-07/17/2017
i investoagted them tehy are loyal to gemico so all ok
prothean alliance
Jay Maricadie-07/17/2017
i think everyone is good except for stella nova
to join PF or gemico/drf
Fafer-07/17/2017
ok
then gl to them
July 18, 2017
Fafer-07/18/2017
hey Jay
have you established contact wit RUn VASYA RUN
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Driving at the moment
Fafer-07/18/2017
gemico diplo, he has access to gemico standings sheet
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Ya I know
Fafer-07/18/2017
would you like me to introduce you 2
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Run vanya run?
Fafer-07/18/2017
run vasya run
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Yes I know him
He has been afk largely
Fafer-07/18/2017
well
he can be contacted daily
this is his cutoff time
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
OK I haven't tried in a while
Fafer-07/18/2017
he responds to messages when he erads
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Once tri is gone we need to unify everything under you and run vasya run
Fafer-07/18/2017
and you
dont think you can just walk away
lol
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Hehe
I am just wanting this shit to stabilize and then go back to retirement heh
UAX just laughs
Fafer-07/18/2017
fuck you you are not retiring
Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
Lol
Fafer-07/18/2017

Jay Maricadie-07/18/2017
We got a big problem potentially strategically
Fafer-07/18/2017
i finally have a person that understand when i speak with me in drones

Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
Roflmao
Probably true
Sad thing is they won't even be 1/3 as strong as dice alone
Fafer-07/19/2017
well, dices strength atm lays in lady
tehy are more political
they dont pvp much
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
They have like 300 supers
Fafer-07/19/2017
theyre inactive
they even did not login fo co2
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
Only because there's no reason to be active
Again no reason :p
Fafer-07/19/2017
it was good reason
regaining the homeland
killing the keep
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
You get goons supers on field and I guarantee they log in lol
But I hear what your saying
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
Have to talk on here using Skype for the all hands meeting
Fafer-07/19/2017
yea
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
We need to have a plan for the rest of Er and the rest of their space at some point
I can temp hold that hades crap space until we figure something out or I can just rent it either way
Fafer-07/19/2017
leave hades tehre for now
Jay Maricadie-07/19/2017
Yes but they want to transfer soon
Costs and all
They are moving down south
July 29, 2017
Jay Maricadie-07/29/2017
Good luck at the tournament
Fafer-07/29/2017
thanks
August 9, 2017
Fafer-08/09/2017
hi
we need to talk
its long night for me so theres time
nothing urgent however
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
whats cooking
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
i got a few if you want to catch up
Fafer-08/09/2017
cant now i have sisi
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
lol ok
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
Just ping me whenevef
Fafer-08/09/2017
yea
its still fafer, fafer phase
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
?
Fafer-08/09/2017
10 mnutes
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
No you said it's still fafer, fafer phase
Fafer-08/09/2017
ok
skype or here
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
Skype give me a second in the restroom
Ok free
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
There are about a dozen other groups that are showing up besides goons
We could shoot them
NC could really use our belp
Help
Fafer-08/09/2017
oh i definitely would like to help
its just, 2 of us need zo chose the best way to help, so that we dont destroy everything
Jay Maricadie-08/09/2017
Yup
We could shoot atlas and the rest of them
Well they definitely need help in the south
My guys are going
Anti jackdaw
Fleet
August 10, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/10/2017
Did you get my request on the drf sheet sugarplums is the email I used
It's heathers email I don't use Gmail lol
Fafer-08/10/2017
i probably did but as I was splattered i missed it
i also need you to use gmail account for such things
reason is when using outside mail, google has no way to verify that its really you
whereas with gmail account, they can
probably with microfot too
if you please can open gmail account for access to gdocs, I would be ecstatic
this tri thing makes me nervous I want to remove them already

Fafer-08/14/2017
tri
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Nice
Anything juicy
Fafer-08/14/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Anything we can use in the news
And anything about the agreement with co2
Fafer-08/14/2017
no
yes
sec
switchong to skype
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
I already had the majority of that along with some other logs that I was about to do a hit piece on tri lol I wish you hadn't told me anything lol
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Mind if I continue and I will send you the rough draft before we publish
Pretty much the tone is remeber all the articles about them being back stabbing pieces of shit well that is confirmed lol
Fafer-08/14/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Already teased it in the last article
Looks like it's going to be a fozzie sov day
Fafer-08/14/2017
keepstars are not easy
first they need citadel near and dead ihub
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
And co2's supers and cap groups are all fucked up since he purged everyone having issues re registering
It's very entertaining
I am in he dentist at the moment so I won't be able to get on to mumble
Fafer-08/14/2017
ets not underestimate thrm
they both know they will disband when tehy fail
so dying beast is most dangerous
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Yup
Who co2 or tri
Or both
Fafer-08/14/2017
yea
both
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Yup
You going to send some subs down looks like this is going to be a long long battle
200 from co2 150 from tri
Fafer-08/14/2017
no we cant come in time
i had leadership meeting
and in 7 minutes i speak to all dcu
then we move lxq
from there we will clean tri stations and structires
will use wh to come down when we move
once we clean, we move closer
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Most everyone is going to dogpile into detroid or immensea
That is coming to help
Fafer-08/14/2017
karer and me spoke last night and for dcu best thing is lxq now we need our back cleaned and we need to see if pm will atatck geminate
we will be coming
dont worry
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Everything go good in the coalition meeting?
Leadership
Fafer-08/14/2017
221 peole present
jay
would be possible for me to drag 3 more people to that fc skype chat
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Who it's pretty tight atm
Fafer-08/14/2017
forkrul from razor, opner for xplct
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Ok
Fafer-08/14/2017
and willam crane gl
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Ok
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Super fight about to go down
Fafer-08/14/2017
where
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Fey area
Fafer-08/14/2017
why are you giving them sueprs
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
I am jot
Not
Fafer-08/14/2017
Kk
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Looks like tri stood down
Fafer-08/14/2017
I just sorted dcu so i will rest hour or 2
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Ok
Fafer-08/14/2017
Things are rolling
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Good

Detroid is mostly reinforced
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
https://discord.gg/YhcG9p
YOU SENT AN INVITE TO JOIN A SERVER
Invite Expired
Your invite has expired.
Fafer-08/14/2017
when adding super pilots and capital pilots dont add from dcu
reason is i painstakingly vetted about 70 supercaps so the others are unschooled or suspicios or not processed
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
ok you should be able to give out super/titan tags
Fafer-08/14/2017
we dont need to make spies easy
or we are doomed
ok
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
right now its about getting as many people from all 100 groups in then we will have to manually go through it all
once auth is set up it will make that easier
Fafer-08/14/2017
yea
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
but fc's alliance leaders etc essentially we need you or karer or uax or tark to be able to ping the entire coalition
Fafer-08/14/2017
yea
be carefull now jay
add the leaders ceos fcs
the rest can fuck off until we have granular contrl
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
we have granular control just manual
Fafer-08/14/2017

Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
each channel is controlled by role
Fafer-08/14/2017
we cant manage manually 600 niggs
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
its gonna be more than that lol
for now i guess it will be another full time job for me
Fafer-08/14/2017
yea
so one day we will join dcu xix solar and fcon supers
and it will be big army
dont left fcon try to be brave
dont let*
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
heh
they arn't that dumb
Fafer-08/14/2017
conserve them
and then together ...
we are a month away from that
at least
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
thats the point of this is to bring together everyone together
Fafer-08/14/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
so that everyone can communicate effectively
Fafer-08/14/2017
and then it will be glorious siege of tri keepstar
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
i will pretend fc that fight
Fafer-08/14/2017
deal
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
just so i can link patrick that gif after it blows up
Fafer-08/14/2017
ahahah
didnt want that keep anyway
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
he said wtf you going to do fc a fleet to kill me you havn't fced in years
i didn't respond
definitly headshotting him first
Fafer-08/14/2017
ah when it comes to very large fleets, one do not fc, one oversee and coordinate ...
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
ya but i am definitly going to call that target

Fafer-08/14/2017
ok you can broadcast it
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
hehe
can't really fc for real my chrones has been going nuts unless i am going to do it f rom the toilet
Jay Maricadie-08/14/2017
Ty for all the help getting people sorted and in
August 15, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
Jesus fuck the amount of bitching over CEO tags
Fafer-08/15/2017
told you
but you will be fcing that keepstar, i told you
you will see its coordinating
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
Huh? Sorry a bit out of didn't sleep well my mom died yesterday
Fafer-08/15/2017
oh Im so sorry
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
Eh it is what it is
Just trying to not go off on people for being stupid lol
We still have a lot of alliances to get in there
Fafer-08/15/2017
i think if you would like to listen, is do the fcs and ceos
they all their internal ts and discords
so members are not critical
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
No but their leaders are
Fcs etc
Fafer-08/15/2017
members ca be added later when you will have management sysem in place based on sso
if you like, I can gve you person who did such discord for me
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
Ya it's just senior folks/fcs/ supers etc
He already messaged me
Fafer-08/15/2017
with web management page
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
It was all supposed to be finished with AWS/auth/ts/discord etc weeks ago and they flaked
So we needed to get something set up now
Just need to get every group in it
Fafer-08/15/2017
it will take time jay
be patient

Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
I know lol
Fafer-08/15/2017
you can use statecraft discord to get into contact with some
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
I didn't understand what you where saying about the keepstar
Fafer-08/15/2017
i was expressing incredulity about them attacking the keepstar as there are few preparatory steps to be made they have not done(edited)
Jay Maricadie-08/15/2017
They thought they could pull and Nc/pl and just swing their super dicks lol
At least according to command chat

Fafer-08/20/2017
ahaha
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
Y
Fafer-08/20/2017
there is web generator where one ony enters captions
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
Fuck that jay macaroni guy and fuck that fafer and uax guy lol
But yes we need to do one
It's so fitting
Fafer-08/20/2017
well, i would be worried if macaroni were involved
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
Hehe
Fafer-08/20/2017
that speaks about mafia
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
That's what patrick calls me
Jay macaroni
He really doesn't realize that is a compliment
Fafer-08/20/2017
haha
yea
maybe a clip from godfather
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
Yup
Took two days to wrangle this bullshit jesus I am tired
Fafer-08/20/2017
ill burden you no more then with problems
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
What new problem
Lol
Fafer-08/20/2017
Ill deal with it
In fact, it may even solve some other problems
I will not tell you what it is yet,because i promised
And its non critical
Otherwise i would
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
is it anything i am involved with
gotg etc?
Fafer-08/20/2017
No
Jay Maricadie-08/20/2017
Cool you ok?
Fafer-08/20/2017
Yea
August 21, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/21/2017
When you wake up I need your help
August 22, 2017
Fafer-08/22/2017
uh
i have birthday and i was drinking
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
happy birthday young man
Fafer-08/22/2017
haha thanks
im kind of clear now
maybe extra smart because alcohol is stimulans
whats up
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
lol alchol is a downer
Fafer-08/22/2017
nah it makes you smarter
you can see things clearly
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
lol
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
why in the fuck are intrepid crossing in our drf discord?
Fafer-08/22/2017
i dont know
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
oh i need to find out
its a brand new discord account
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
Do you have any idea how much irc payed tri for rent
Fafer-08/22/2017
No
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
Is the boss stuff what are you wanted to talk to me about yesterday
Fafer-08/22/2017
Yes
If i manouver good maybe razor will be happy with soace, so d85 goes to you
I dont know yet
Ill have meetings tomorrow
Also im taking out a corp out of d85
Jay Maricadie-08/22/2017
Nice
Fafer-08/22/2017
So their failcascade will be controlled
August 23, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
do you have a few to talk
Fafer-08/23/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
call me on skype whenever your ready
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
you around still
Fafer-08/23/2017
I took a nap
Fafer-08/23/2017
Jay if you need isk from xix and karer is not around, page uaxdeath
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
He is traveling in turkey and is not availble and karer knows that
Fafer-08/23/2017
Well fuck that you cant have space empire and leave it unatended lol
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
Virtually no internet and very limited text coverage
Hence why I was frustrated this morning
Fafer-08/23/2017
So send him text
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
I did
Fafer-08/23/2017
He can textvsomebody
..
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
He is literally traveling in a third world country near turkey right now
Fafer-08/23/2017
I heard hk may be coming to perigen
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
Yup
They will be taking a contract from patrick
Because nobody responded
Fafer-08/23/2017
Still, perrifen is not rental rich area, so we can take the blow
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
Oh well
Fafer-08/23/2017
They could have wreaked havoc in oasa or cobalt
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
I am smoking a bowl going to watch a movie with the wife and if they don't get back to me fuck it they can figure the shit out themselves i am not chasing him if he can find time to talk to a bunch of fcs this morning but not make the dozen decisions and things that need to get done for a week they can burn Peregin cobalt and whatever and the rest of the shit I listed
I am done
Fucking sick and tired of chasing people and then they come back don't do what needs to be done and fuck up everything because they been afk for a week and don't have a clue
I got better shit to do
I am done cleaning up messes because people can't communicate
Or do what they say they can do
Fafer-08/23/2017
I felt that many times , but, i never gave up because i did invest time and did not want to lose
You relax, tomorrow is another day
Perrigen is border area meant to buffer anyway
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
I gave my deadline maybe when a dozen mercs are up our ass and fucking everyone is about to kill each other people will pull their heads out of their asses I am tired of busting my ass and cleaning up a dozen messes a day that where avoidable
Fafer-08/23/2017
Most important thing is test
Jay Maricadie-08/23/2017
I will just not put out fires for a couple of days
Fafer-08/23/2017
If test joins tri and co2 will not have isk to pay

Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
And my relationships with people like lady and Elise etc are worth more to me than that
Fafer-08/24/2017
i hear xix will have gemico days soon
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
?
Fafer-08/24/2017
irl meeting
in belorussia
i would expect that during that period there will be no comms whatsoever
actually i think it already begun
and will last a week
i would not expect anything during this time
they will drink and talk
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Well that's up to karer
Fafer-08/24/2017
uax also
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
And yes I know
Fafer-08/24/2017
all of them will be there, are there
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Yes I know
Happens every year
Fafer-08/24/2017
and that is the reason you are not getting any answers
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Problem is their allies do not know
No
He talked to other people fafer
No
I have birdies everywhere
Anyways I can talk if you want otherwise we can catch up later
Fafer-08/24/2017
karer aslo depends a lot on uax decisions and uax is not available all the time(edited)
lets do later
i neeed food
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
These decisions where already approved. And or was simply to do as was asked by uax for example the deal with gotg
All he has to do is send a pre typed message to sort and that is it
That was a week and a half ago
I hear what you are saying but that does not apply here
Anyways the south is going to to turn into a literal shit show
Anyways I am taking a break for a week and we will see how things look when I return
Drf coordination channel already went to shit this morning lol
Fafer-08/24/2017
yea get some rest
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Gotta get shit done
Wish I could sleep
Fcon just lost a constellation of fully upgraded ihubs with no response from xix or solar
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Anyways if test does fuck us we have gotg, NC and PL I talked to sort and we are getting started on an agreement with his new diplo
https://pastebin.com/JAtHYGjS
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Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Anyways all is good I have talked to mactep, Tark and uax and such they where worried I was quitting
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
It's happening
Fafer-08/24/2017
talking with irc with antar
but yes i saw
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Keep an eye on eve news 24
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
Did you see the two stories
Fafer-08/24/2017
in reading reddit thread and tears
still with irc on their ts
antar did good job
why does trico thinks ncpl will side with them
Jay Maricadie-08/24/2017
No idea can you make sure they don't uax isn't back yet when he gets back we will reconfirm with elise
Patrick is talking to doom and killah
Trying to get them to shoot test or fcon
Prettty plz
August 25, 2017
Fafer-08/25/2017
Pizza asked 90b ?
Thats a lot of money
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
No they asked 60
The other 30 is for the other list of stuff I listed almost a month ago
It breaks down to we are paying pretty much plex price for the amount of cloaky campers they are putting out and we are getting them actively hunting and entosising sov
Fafer-08/25/2017
I dont think solar will pay
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
They already said they would
As long as karer and fcon do and fcon already said yes
Fafer-08/25/2017
How is fcon standing usk reservecwise
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Pretty good
They have burned about 500 bil in the last month
They can't keep going forever
But petty good for now as long as they don't have to replace a bunch of supers
Fafer-08/25/2017
Have fcon pay pizza 60
Its average fkeet welp
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
They are already paying for a dozen others like wtf
Fafer-08/25/2017
You will not hear from xix for some time
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Mactep said it was fine
Well I will tell pizza forget it then
Fafer-08/25/2017
Nah
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
I burned a favor because karer asked me to like wtf man
He was on today
Like wtf
Fafer-08/25/2017
I was in same situation few years back
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
So why is mactep telling me one thing today and your telling me something different
Fafer-08/25/2017
Im advising based on myvexperience
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
So your experience is they do not do what they say they are going to do?
Fafer-08/25/2017
They do but delayed
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
How does that work
I am going to do x by x date
Well if karer doesn't get on by this eeekend we will loose test
So whatevrr
Fafer-08/25/2017
I dont think we will lose test , they did reset
With co2
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
And karer owes them isk
If he doesn't get on we WILL loose them
Fafer-08/25/2017
Well, they said in 3 days
Why should karer pay until they reset
They could be plaing game
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Well like I said if karer doesn't get on
Fcon is already paying mercs karer just needs to do what he was supposed to have done last week
I already been paying shit out of my own pocket
Hence why I am going to take time off until uax and Tark get on and get everyone to pull their heads out of their fuckin asses
Same shit I said yesterday lol
I am going to bed lol
Fafer-08/25/2017
Nn
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Between me and you I called ina favor to extend pizza till the weekend but I have been delaying them for almost two fucking weeks at that point
And it cost me a personal favor with lucia
To intercept Patrick's contract against them hitting the drone lands
Fafer-08/25/2017
but, you need 30b snce fcon is giving 30
pay them 30 now frm fcon
Fafer-08/25/2017
[10:03:56 AM] Solar FC/Mactep: [10:59:38] Just Buch: pizza ask 60 [10:59:58] Just Buch: if fcon can pay 30, and solar can pay 30, then pay them now before they go against us [11:00:13] Just Buch: karer is now probably drinking in belaruss [11:00:35] Just Buch: we ask 30 from karer when they finish meeting [11:00:45] Just Buch: and spend on something [11:02:34] SDG - MACTEP: Where to transfer [11:02:49] Just Buch: i do not know [11:03:03] Just Buch: jay maricadie is handling the contract [11:03:05] Just Buch: but [11:03:17] Just Buch: if you pay to fcon , fcon will give 60 to jay [11:03:30] Just Buch: now they all sleep [11:03:32] SDG - MACTEP: oki [10:04:05 AM] Solar FC/Mactep: fcon ll transfer 60b [10:04:15 AM] Just Buch: no [10:04:19 AM] Just Buch: you give fcon 30 [10:04:31 AM] Just Buch: and with your 30 + fcpn 30 , fcon pay to pizza 60 [10:04:34 AM] Solar FC/Mactep: 30* i mean [10:04:38 AM] Just Buch: yes
sent to FCON Aerarium Militare
Fafer-08/25/2017
Morning
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Morning had to kick someone temp from the server because they where being negative as fuck now that fcon is finally doing as they are asked and dropping shit and taking fights
I warned them multiple times
Please do not let them back on for 24 hours
Fafer-08/25/2017
sure
we are good now
you won

Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
?
Fafer-08/25/2017
with test on our side, and pizza paid, its only a matter of finishing
Jay Maricadie-08/25/2017
Well we still have to finalize the deal but it's has been agreed to by them we just need to get karer Tark mactep in have them agree to it and they start tommorow. They have already been shooting the hell out of tri and renters before we officially paid them
Hopefully me kicking that dude gets the message accross to everyone and the bullshit dirs
Dies
Co2 is down to 10 bil
And if Test fucks us backup plan are in place
And we will end up with even better position

Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
how do you feel about manny bothans tonight?
did you know the sibera was leaving the drf?
Fafer-08/27/2017
Whis sibera
Did you request access to drone friends just now ?
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
yes
Fafer-08/27/2017
Ok wec
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
email@gmail.com is me
Fafer-08/27/2017
Sec
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
well my wife
i don't have google i use her shit for everything
Fafer-08/27/2017
If you change anything, announce it on skype channel pls
And dont bring anyone there , renters and small thibgs dont need representative
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
ofc we need to consolidate everything onto one
soon
otherwise UAX is going to have my ass lol
Fafer-08/27/2017
I need to keep yhis one for bot
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
?
there is only a couple missing from either
Fafer-08/27/2017
Im fine with one for all, but this list must remain
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
god you are a pain sometimes
still love you
we can have but i still need an additional one
why a seperate one if they are both the same?
Fafer-08/27/2017
Use gemicomkne and make drf list
Because its list for bot also
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
don't they mirror?
Fafer-08/27/2017
They are identical now, but in the future whi kniws
Nope its manual
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
No I know but the standings are mirror identical
Fafer-08/27/2017
Jay give up lol
I can not close this one
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
Well I can now say I did my part pol
Lol
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
Can you reinvite me to that coordination channel
For scheduling the strategic meeting
Fafer-08/27/2017
Sure let me find
Is it skype ?
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
Well test so far is holding to it
Jay Maricadie-08/27/2017
server address : mannybothans.typefrag.com PW: mbiprimary
Fafer-08/27/2017
Sor4y had to sleep
August 28, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/28/2017
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/wteach/Awesome/Putin-on-T-Rex_zpsf6ed58c0.jpg

Fafer-08/28/2017
ahaha
i need to talk to you abot something but it can wait tomorrow
im trying to oranize some carreirs for immensea
Jay Maricadie-08/28/2017
here in 5 is probably the best time
Fafer-08/28/2017
its about getting more help
its not critical so can wait
because it requires 30 minutes to hour
Jay Maricadie-08/28/2017
we can pump out carriers like crazy in ER we are building dread bombs for PF right now
but still have tons of excess capacity
Fafer-08/28/2017
in er?
who is building them'
Jay Maricadie-08/28/2017
Blue sun
Me and my guys
Can you ring me on skype
Tomorrow's going to be shit
August 29, 2017
Fafer-08/29/2017
yo jay
are nsh still friendly
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
yo
Fafer-08/29/2017
we will jump carriers in gw
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
ok
?
Fafer-08/29/2017
will they fuck with us
are they still allied
are they still on payroll from fcon, the NSH ?
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
who?
Fafer-08/29/2017
nullsechnaya sholupen
they live in great wildlands
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
https://discord.gg/PPGtxn
YOU SENT AN INVITE TO JOIN A SERVER
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he runs the great wild lands coalition and nsh
Fafer-08/29/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
sorry in a meeting can't do much more
Fafer-08/29/2017
its fone its sok
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
protean took space in kelevala?
Fafer-08/29/2017
i can talk later
Fafer-08/29/2017
stil moving
is it possible to get inivte to the drf discord for willam crane?
Jay Maricadie-08/29/2017
You should be able to invite him
August 30, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/30/2017
https://discord.gg/AWdPJs
YOU SENT AN INVITE TO JOIN A SERVER
Invite Expired
Your invite has expired.
August 31, 2017
Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Etherium_Reach/H7Q-DG,2b-uuq,nwx-li,sah-ad,1h5-3w,tp-rto,rv-ga8,jta2-2,gty-fw,r-6kym,qzv-x3,i64-xb,m-v0pq,n-sfzk,9qs5-c,3h58-r#sec
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Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
Call me asap
Fafer-08/31/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
gobbins hit me up about dropping a fort and transfering it to them in curse supposidly karer hired them?
That was the message I got from dran
Wtf
Fafer-08/31/2017
So karer and gobins had brief discusdion yesterday, detailsvare to be sorted
Today or tomorrow they will schedule meeting
Dran should stay passive until further notice
Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
Ok can you ask him to have one or both of us there as we will have to deal with whatever they agree to
gobbins hit up a random FC in test, and now half of test knows FFS
Fafer-08/31/2017
yea when gobbins starts he means business
it would seem that tehy are hired, but the deal needs to be finalized
[9:48 PM] Gobbins [HORDE]: [8/31/2017 1:42:48 AM] gobbins: 1 thing then [8/31/2017 1:43:11 AM] gobbins: I need to know if we are hired now or not. If not, no problem we can negotiate later - but it means today I let my FC bomb anybody. [8/31/2017 1:43:21 AM] gobbins: I already helped twice for free so no hard feelings. [8/31/2017 1:44:11 AM] Kupuyc: then you are hired! [8/31/2017 1:44:13 AM] Kupuyc: ))
Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
i know i just wasn't aware they had "started"
nice of karer to pass that along
Fafer-08/31/2017
ok so lets do like this - i will poke karer and tell him to finalize
you keep passive
i dont want this to cause unnecesray tesions where tehy are not needed you test horde karer
ill grab karer, make him schedule with gobbins
and finsih
Jay Maricadie-08/31/2017
no i am getting used to it
no one does what they say they are going to do or communicate eh its pretty par for the course
karer was supposed to have reached out to sort multiple times he hasn't as far as i know, he was supposed to send isk by today he hasn't and then hires someone without letting anyone like Tark, mactep, you or me know
vov
Fafer-08/31/2017
stop bitchng
go watch some movie

Jay Maricadie-09/01/2017
Lol
Fafer-09/01/2017
i tried to give them some space in spire, but they did not like it
ill get some nap
nn
Jay Maricadie-09/01/2017
Night
I am sure we will get everything sorted
September 2, 2017
Fafer-09/02/2017
razor has expressed interest for this http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Insmother/N-LY4R#sec
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did you try to assimilate army?
Jay Maricadie-09/02/2017
isn't going to be a good fit
army
hey can you hop on coms
in the coordination discord
September 3, 2017
Fafer-09/03/2017
hi
can you have someone from fcon to give me the list of alliances that will participate in training
Fafer-09/03/2017
hi jay
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
Hey
Doomchinchilla has a spy in the test drf discord
Fafer-09/03/2017
they have spies everywhere
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
I know doesn't mean we have to make it easy
Fafer-09/03/2017
do you know in which channel
also sc is moving to help tri
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
I know
They been moving for a bit
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
http://evenews24.com/2017/09/03/news-alert-pandemic-horde-announces-its-going-to-war/
Eve News24
Amymuffmuff
News Alert: Pandemic Horde announces it's going to war!

Yay
Got some good stuff in there about pat and garst

Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
You haven't been chatty
Everything ok
Fafer-09/03/2017
yes its fine
i dont have much to say atm lol
tel fcon and pf to do this https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YM3t87fTST6bXQMqO3eqJ0zyhR1_YB_4VEFgU7VjeOQ
Google Docs
DCU Comms
Coalition Services - Mumble Go to https://auth.dcu.space/ Click the Login button and login with your main EVE account Select your main character Click Authorize In the top right there is a button, click this and go to Mumble Set a password Open mumble and add a new server using these connection d...

Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
Pinged it I wil talk with yomod to ask him to get as many people going
Fafer-09/03/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
You talked to karer or uax at all?
Fafer-09/03/2017
no
lets have horde come
once the start entosis, it will be lot of things
dcu moved 40 more capitals
but this week i would like to focus on pf training and not to feed tri
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
That would be nice
Or if people would get standings right
Fafer-09/03/2017
we did not needs sc here
need*
it will now take longer
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
well i could not get sign off on hiring them or lazerhawks
Fafer-09/03/2017
but at least snufv is imperium now, and we can call mittani if they start to shit in droen lands
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
oh well
Fafer-09/03/2017
project mayhem was major nuisance
but they are no more
Jay Maricadie-09/03/2017
Ya not sure that was so great thought in the end
September 5, 2017
Fafer-09/05/2017
how are things
Jay Maricadie-09/05/2017
Sore
Fafer-09/05/2017
ah shit why
Jay Maricadie-09/05/2017
Just got out of oral surgery
Fafer-09/05/2017
ah they used atroscopic tools on you?
damn, that must me uncomfortable
still it saves you so i guess until the science gets better this is the thing
September 8, 2017
Fafer-09/08/2017
yo
can you tell pants
asap
Digital Vendetta District-85 InPanic RAZOR Alliance Badfellas Inc. The Explicit Alliance Ghost Legion.
i need this alliance on tether list
again im on untethered citadel
Jay Maricadie-09/08/2017
again he responded in the diplo chat in the drf discord
calling him
Fafer-09/08/2017
thank you
Jay Maricadie-09/08/2017
the guy who is doing it is in a group dm with karer
Fafer-09/08/2017
im probably not friends
Jay Maricadie-09/08/2017
pants is at the doctor
it is about blue for all of legacy not for ACL
what all groups from drf are actually down south fighting so that legacy can blue them
as they don't want to blue all 100
Fafer-09/08/2017
ah
then its hard to say
Jay Maricadie-09/08/2017
just havn't had time to get it all done lol
Fafer-09/08/2017
from dcu we have this fellows
Digital Vendetta District-85 InPanic RAZOR Alliance Badfellas Inc. The Explicit Alliance Ghost Legion.
September 11, 2017
Fafer-09/11/2017
how are things jay?(edited)
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Ok you?
Fafer-09/11/2017
its fine
tri much got dupstered today
so im happy
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Ya I saw
Should be good for morale
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/6zkaxi/co2_is_now_cocoup/?st=J7H0O7VO&sh=12095a7c
reddit
CO2 is now COCoup • r/Eve
The Judge is not new exec, but has taken assets and isk. Keepstar has been transferred to a non-CO2 corp. Live updates from CO2 incoming as we...

Did you like that
Fafer-09/11/2017
let me read
also do you like this video jay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzdxf_5e-JU
YouTube
Zeinoun Awad
Atlantropa Explained by Reichminister Heusmann

Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
I told you we had most of their fcs and CEO's flipped lol
Fafer-09/11/2017
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/jump/Avatar,544/SG-3HY:1S-SU1:LXQ2-T:SG-3HY:NSI-MW:2XI8-Y:EH2I-P:FV-YEA:EH2I-P:2XI8-Y:NSI-MW:P3X-TN:NBW-GD:2XI8-Y:NBW-GD:SG-3HY:NBW-GD:FB5U-I:2XI8-Y:MTO2-2:21M1-B:FV-YEA:A-0IIQ:MK-YNM:FV-YEA:21M1-B:EH2I-P:MTO2-2:EH2I-P:1-BK1Q:S7WI-F:C6CG-W:EH2I-P:C6CG-W:7-QOYS:C6CG-W:4-M1TY:APES-G:AG-SYG:APES-G:EU-WFW:APES-G:C6CG-W:APES-G:NSI-MW:APES-G:D-IZT9:AG-SYG:EU-WFW:AG-SYG:G-VFVB:EU-WFW:C-BHDN:7-QOYS:GA58-7:C-BHDN:GA58-7:8RL-OG:7-QOYS:8RL-OG:4-PCHD:MK-YNM:P-H5IY:A-0IIQ:4-PCHD:A-0IIQ:CUT-0V:E0DR-G:HB-5L3:CUT-0V
our Atlantropa Jay
13 keepstars
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Lol
Fafer-09/11/2017
with this we wil protect moonminig ops with our caps and supers
its finished
only 1 more fort, or
but even without it its fucntional
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
All their forts
Gigx has been removed all forts transferred to test
And keepstar transferred to goons who are going to sell it to test
Fafer-09/11/2017
haha
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Months in the works told you we had their dudes flipped
Fafer-09/11/2017
what will judge do now
will he take over test and remove gigx
i like judge
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Eh he is an idiot too just one that can be manipulated
Fafer-09/11/2017
he will join test, will make a corp get people who want to come
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Either way co2 is out of the war now
Fafer-09/11/2017
yep
jay?
how about we ofer tri peacefull solution
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
No
Fafer-09/11/2017
they will be able to retreat, we buy their shit
nder condition the dont shit again
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
People want blood we need to give it to them
Fafer-09/11/2017
people will listen to orders
its one mnth to new moons
we will need to scan all
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Tri is about to join goons
Fafer-09/11/2017
and defend all against greedy groups
goons?
are you sure?
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Yes we torpedoed it twice
Fafer-09/11/2017
i dnt belive they would join goons
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Goons where going to declare their support for tri and tri was going to attack fcon with goons support until we released that story right before the meta show
That was the big annoucment
Fafer-09/11/2017
i found a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4zZO69oag
YouTube
conancompletist
Conan the barbarian cut scene : King Osric death

Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
Lol
Jay Maricadie-09/11/2017
http://evenews24.com/2017/09/12/breaking-news-co2-loses-control-of-thier-citadels/
Eve News24
Jimmy Val'Rayne
Breaking News: Apparent C02 Coup in progress - Updated

September 12, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Want to come on talking in stations
Fafer-09/12/2017
yea im there
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Ok good I can go to bed
Fafer-09/12/2017
yea
anything you want pitched?
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Eh just the usual stuff with patrick and gigx not trustworthy
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
https://timerboard.net/impass
Fafer-09/12/2017
talking with gobbins now
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
About?
Fafer-09/12/2017
we agreed that horde would like frontline sov between drf and test
now we are looking potential areas
(rememebr we spoke about horde leaving north)
(its still secret but now its the time to forge this)
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Ok I thought we where supposed to be discussing a deal with them over the next week or so in our joint channel
Fafer-09/12/2017
with horde between etst and fcon, we have 2 buffers for drones
yes you are supposed to do that, not me
im discussing this now, you know how deals are being cooked
more like "consultations"
2 of us will need to sit and make a roadmap
Fafer-09/12/2017
you here?
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
In a appointment
Fafer-09/12/2017
ok see you later
nothing that requires haste
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
I am around if you still are
Fafer-09/12/2017
i can be in 10 minuets
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
ok just packing up at work
just got linked this shit have you seen it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/6zqf7g/goons_list_mittens_checking_it_twice_straight/
reddit
Goons List Mittens checking it twice! Straight from the dark smoky "Star Room" Looks like a few have been naughty and not so nice.... and there have been some recent changes :). • r/Eve
List has been edited to remove any Doxing Info. These folks are part of a list of 50 individuals who are targets of Goons in various ways coups...

Fafer-09/12/2017
2 minutes
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
i need a few more than that
Fafer-09/12/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Did you talk to anyone about me having potential involvement with the co2 shit?
Fafer-09/12/2017
no
so can i call?
Jay Maricadie-09/12/2017
Sure
Fafer-09/12/2017
ok sec
http://i.imgur.com/rdu1TLt.png

September 13, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Can you put together the systems you where thinking in teneferis for horde karer will go talk to mactep and I will go talk to tark
Fafer-09/13/2017
Ok
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Dcu folks are camping in co2 with goons lady and vince want us out of there as they are going to attack and if they do they will shoot us
Fafer-09/13/2017
Who will they attack ?!
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Us
We need to stay out of impass and focus on tri
Karer is dealing with the xix dudes that where in there
They will shoot anyone supporting goons
Fafer-09/13/2017
They will shoot goons, test, co2 then anyone helping goons, in that order
So we need to stay away from goons

Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
I will sort it one way or another in the morning
Since you say he is one of the most dangerous people in eve I guess we will find out who really is what tommorow I don't play these games
I checked the logs I was removed
If he thought he got his ass chewed the last time he pulled shit heh
Things will come to light tommorow and it will come to a head I wasn't going to deal with this shit tommorow but it looks like he wants to play games so we will
Fafer-09/13/2017
during my time in nc i was also removed and added many times lol
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Yes but you didn't have a deal and have paid isk
I fucking did
He broke a deal with me with no notification
Me and a few people will be talking to Lady tommorow
So it is a tad different
I also left kugu and statecraft I am not going to continue lending my name to things
I think there will be some very entertaining stories coming out on evenews24 very soon
As well
Fafer-09/13/2017
why cant we just finish tri now and be done with all
at least for some time
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Many people have come at me before in various ways there is a reason I am still Here
Oh we will after I deal with the weasel
He fucked up
Fafer-09/13/2017
i dont think this conflict betwen 2 of you is productive
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
You know what's worse than a spy? A spy with a huge ego
It's not going to be a conflict fafer
Fafer-09/13/2017
you both have many simmilarities in that you are capable
more then most
devoting time
intelligent
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
Me and a few people will have a chat and present all the evidence to his bosses boss
His boss reports to lady last time he crossed the line inappropriately he got his ass ripped open by lady and vince(edited)
And that was for just presenting false intel about test
I don't play this game
Especially not with someone as unimportant as him
His boss reports to lady his low level/middle level management
He is
He doesn't get to make those decisions
Fafer-09/13/2017
well strictly hiearachically he is .. but influentially no
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
In every way
His influence has dried up
He just hasn't realized it yet
Everyone already knows the gig
It's cute
Fafer-09/13/2017
but how this all started
is it some personal thing between you
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
No he was sent to cause division between all the old allies against goons he has talked to half a dozen people trying to turn them against me and drf
When he sent me fake intel I talked to l about it and he got in big trouble a couple of weeks ago
As he was trying to manipulate a decision drf would have made with it
Jay Maricadie-09/13/2017
I have notified uax and karer I will be stepping down this weekend after these deals are done
September 14, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Yup he booted me and Kirsty tried bullshitting me about it
Until I called her on it
I messaged karer and uax they can deal with this shit with vince
But she vamps admitted it
It's fine I will set up my own and the bullshit can be dealt with
Looks like I was 100% right
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Can you send lady all the logs from sylaz and what he has said to you please
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
ping me when your around
Fafer-09/14/2017
Hi
I did a long nap
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
i am around when you have time to talk
Fafer-09/14/2017
Ill call you
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Have you got a rough idea of what to give horde in teneferis besides army sov?
Fafer-09/14/2017
how about an part of tenerifis and 1 pocket in immensea? or 1 pocket in feyth
Thats what gobbins asked
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Fey is owned by test
Fafer-09/14/2017
Because he says tenetifis is pipe
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Teneferis is the option between army, fcon, and WW space
I will take a look tonight
Ty
Did he specifiy what his basic needs and asks are?
Fafer-09/14/2017
No
I feel there needs to be longer session with him, probably during this weekend
When he has time
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Let's sit down with him Friday or Saturday and hash out the basics
Fafer-09/14/2017
But ibcan see where this may go , becausecwe dont make decisions so this will again stretch out as we wait for approvals lol
But yea, weekend
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
I actually do know what we can and can't do had a long chat with karer yesterday about all the space and options but first we need to find out what all he would like quantity of systems, how many ice belts, how many stations, how many systems over .65, dead ends, etc etc
I have also had the preliminary talk with fcon
So we are good we just need to know what he is really thinking specifics so we can juggle shit around to make it work
And then we need to work out the top level frame work of the rest of the agreement as I know there are going to be some specific things in regards to PL that are going to have to be in the agreement
On another note who the fuck is ivy?
In PL
Ceo of adversity I believe
Do you know ivy?
Fafer-09/14/2017
i dont know him
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Well he is leading a campain to take drf sov
Fafer-09/14/2017
i dont think adversity will be long in pl
i managed to briefly get hold of karer
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Not just dropping on dumbasses but taking sov
Fafer-09/14/2017
so he agreed to also be in talk with gobbns this weekend
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Good
Fafer-09/14/2017
that will save us some time
and back and forth
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
Get us all in there and I can write it up as we go
Fafer-09/14/2017
yes
there is valid concern that, when we evict tri, tehy will still exist and will be able to fuck s from lowsec
that is if they dont go fountain
and we dont know that
so fcon is still in danger a lot
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
From karer?
Fafer-09/14/2017
eh?
Jay Maricadie-09/14/2017
There is valid concern
Sorry just had a great 1 1/2 hour conversation with wind spirit

Fafer-09/14/2017
yes karer said that, but also other - its kind of visble when they fuck off from null, there will be period of their diehrd gueriala lowsec triing aquilla freedom fighting

Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
so pretty much army has the opportunity to potentially grow into most of ER
Fafer-09/16/2017
ah!
not most
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
which isn't saying much as there is realy only 2 good constellations and one eh
Fafer-09/16/2017
i have spoken with ushrakhan
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
who
Fafer-09/16/2017
faction warfare
they approached me they asked if they can please have one system to use
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
lol
Fafer-09/16/2017
they want to have some nullsec place
they are mostly in fw
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Etherium_Reach/UAV-1E#sec
DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Etherium Reach
DOTLAN EveMaps is the leading online/interactive map/alliance/corporation resource database for Eve Online

they agreed to blue gemico
and would defend
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Is that system empty? I thought all of that was rented
Fafer-09/16/2017
so i asked why shit system, and they said we dont need purple we just want something in range from our fw places
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Fair enough worst case we give a discount for someone to move if it is rented
Fafer-09/16/2017
i dont think this one is rented
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Cool
Fafer-09/16/2017
more peole we involve and entangle, the bigger we are
and tehy will fight for their homes
so i see no downside
i think with time we can pitch them against gw if needed
gw is shitty place to live especially north
and this guys asking for it lol
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
I tried to talk with him and he avoided me after co coup he tried talking a few times but they are playing games
Fafer-09/16/2017
who
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Admiral wheeler runs gwc
Fafer-09/16/2017
ah them
fuck them
we will bur them after tri
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Well they been trying to hunt my rorq fleet lol
Have you found out why pl has decided to take drf sov and hit drf structures I haven't had a chance to ping Elise
Fafer-09/16/2017
where did pl take drf sov
and i dont see them hitting structures
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Lorde I believe they been hitting them hard
Fafer-09/16/2017
i dont know if lorde can distinguish whos attacing them
and are they farmed, 3rd partied or sov attacked
and by whom
like 1 pl char in fleet doesnt mean pl
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
No ivy said it specifically and Tark talked to me about it
Ivy is leading a campain to evict lorde
Fafer-09/16/2017
and whos ivy?
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Ceo of one of their corps
Fafer-09/16/2017
excuse my ignornce
lorde is catch
that doent concern us
we need to finsih off the tri
and then combined drf can decide what to do
there will always be perennial pressure from the lowsec, pl, snuff etcetc to border parts for the content
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
The FC specifically said they where evicting lorde
Fafer-09/16/2017
heh was it in local
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
No DM chats
Fafer-09/16/2017
well still thats how pirates troll carebears
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
I haven't talked to ivy
Fafer-09/16/2017
but even if they do, what then?
nothing we can do now
i just know pl doesnt want sov they want to farm content
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
No they are helping other folks take the sov
That can live in it
Fafer-09/16/2017
i dont thik we can realistically expect for pl not to fuck with provi, catch, and test areas
nor we should discourage them beause then they may reroute closer
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Ivy lash
Fafer-09/16/2017
iobviously pl will not do north because they own it
they dont touchh drf
or gotg
goons strong
where will they?
so , all fine
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Either south or gotg
Fafer-09/16/2017
yea so let them
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Fcon knows it's comibg
Comibg
Coming
If they do fraternity will stop the war and attack goons
https://i.redd.it/4iq0xuinpcmz.png

Fafer-09/16/2017

Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Roflmao
Jesus
Fafer-09/16/2017
with hands chopped off lolol
and bees in the back
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
Jesus I just noticed that
Fafer-09/16/2017
its missing drf bear rat
Fafer-09/16/2017
well, the question is what is coming
i think its farming not invasion
Jay Maricadie-09/16/2017
They are going to try to kill alliances
Fafer-09/16/2017
and main focus will be test and provi

Fafer-09/18/2017
scalding pass loks fine, horde is doing it
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Yup
Fafer-09/18/2017
however, detroid and insmother, nothing is hppening
well ok there is some in detroid
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Army wants to deploy up and start helping but Karer isn't around to say yes or no he wanted to sleep on it lol
Fafer-09/18/2017
lol
we need to push people to press on and finish with tri
and be done with it as faster as we can
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
I am surprised you didn't grab me when all this came up with d85 before things where finalized
But vov
Fafer-09/18/2017
i considered that
however at tht point, it was already decided by d85 they go razor
so what would you do - either prevent it, or go with it - if you went to rpevent, its crisis
and you may have had
on the otther hand, i have no doubt youll get suitable space , the other one
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Ok that still has nothing to do with space that either should be rented or handed to me as part of my deal with uax and Karer but again it is what it is
Fafer-09/18/2017
if you have told me before that you had specific deal woth karer, then maybe i wouldnt do as I did
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
I did when we first talked about d85
as I said it's not important
Fafer-09/18/2017
no, jay you pasted me variants
of 1,2 or 3 constellations in oasa
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
When we talked on the phone after that
But as I said I don't give a shit what else is going on
And to be honest oasa is xix space anyways regardless
If I had not got it it would have been rented
Regardless nicely played
Fafer-09/18/2017
well actually yes
they handed keepstars
i was affraid we would have to kill them
and then what if they transfered to hk or pl
in their desperation
i suppose this way, by merging to razor, they had seen future for them
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
That seems to be the general idea
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/285281772810403840/359159894005514241/e7c67d01de545c59b96a8e58304b9755.png lol

Fafer-09/18/2017
for 1 day?
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Lol
It's a catch toon
Anyways anything else going on we need to talk about
What's the plan in ER/insmother?
Fafer-09/18/2017
nsh placed for in middle of etherium
fort
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Are you kidding
Fafer-09/18/2017
nope
they moved shit there too
supers
admiral wheeler was seen
and ofc some assholes took systems around lxq
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
I will unleash pizza on hem
Them
Fafer-09/18/2017
nsh will not be easy to be dealt with
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
He really really wants to hunt their supers
Fafer-09/18/2017
keep pizza on tri
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Badly
Fafer-09/18/2017
if you can
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
They are right next to them
They can do both
I will just add gwc to the menu
Call me
Do you have any issue with pants taking sah and placin a staging fort to assist everyone in dealing with them and insmother
Fafer-09/18/2017
not really
i have fort ready
but if he wants..
hes going to tohat area anyay, rght
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Theoretically
He has one ready to go so I figured it wouldn't cost us anything
Fafer-09/18/2017
i feel that the deal needs to be made with him
if he is not clear within his head if he will go etherum to that pocket, then he should go and start entosis tri from wjere he is
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
He has offered to deploy with nothing promised to show what he can do
And you guys could use the extra help against nsh
And it is help that cost us nothing
Fafer-09/18/2017
why he cant strike at tri from where he is
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Can we talk on Skype
Fafer-09/18/2017
yea sec
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Did you ok giving that space to razor with karer or uax?
Because it was originally going to shadow to rent
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
But I need to know what was promised to them so we can make sure they get it as that was not the plan
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
I reported that stupid reddit shit it looks like the bullshit got dealt with
Fafer-09/18/2017
I was wondering if we can make channel on drf discord for etherium
We dont need separate server
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Ya I will create a channel for it we have nsh entosisjng fzx
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Nsh hit my guys space lol
Fafer-09/18/2017
where?!
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Fzx
Ihub
While in conversation with me diplo wise
Roflmao
Fafer-09/18/2017
thats very good
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
That's a new one
Fafer-09/18/2017
because it shows they are random
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
No
Fafer-09/18/2017
they cant wage war on 2 locations
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
after I called him in it this was his response
Fafer-09/18/2017
like if they have smething in gw, something in er, something in kalevala ..
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Oh dang, that's a bummer. Well I'd still like to be personally cool with ya
Roflmao
Fafer-09/18/2017
this shows that they will not be problem at all
we already have achtung partizanen fucking off to tenal from malpais
as soon as we arrived in lxq
Jay Maricadie-09/18/2017
Should be able to get some good fights
September 19, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
You may want to open it up to niddy and thanny not many people can fly niddy


Fafer-09/19/2017
we have archon and niddy and thany
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Oh ok so what was he talking about then?
The fitting
Fafer-09/19/2017
he tried to evade te fit I gave, that contains many usefukk modules that civilized cap pilot shoud know to use, or at least they exist
so I insisted on exact specification
which is also intro to supers
the path to*
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
What about catch everyone is abandoning it
For horde
Fafer-09/19/2017
well
it depends what the intention is
i wanted horde be shield for fcon
from catch, from test, from tri ....
for that ideal is imensea
and since they cant then tenerifis, and part of imensea
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
His dudes will rebel
Catch
Fafer-09/19/2017
the rest is suboptimal
who wil rebel?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
His alliance and coalition
Fafer-09/19/2017
gobbins?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Tark
Fcon
Fafer-09/19/2017
not if they are explained they are getong replacement and moving closer to xix to be safer
i mean
gobins drew a map
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I have been at it a week
Catxh
Catch
Fafer-09/19/2017
army sov in tenerifis, and then constelation in imensea that is not belong to fcon
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
All of teneferis and immensea belong to fcon
Per UAX when they joined
Fafer-09/19/2017
yes---- but pants said he is moving out
because you said they have problems
with fcon
so from that map, getting army part fo tenerifis, that gobbins asked, is solved
right?
or fcon wants army space?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
It is all PF space
Just like all of drones are controlled by karer/uax
Solar controls their pets space etc
Unless you want me to pull in Tark and yomod into these negotiations no for now on teneferis and immensea just need to focus on what they functionally need
I am working on them
But there is no space for a deal in teneferis for horde
As it stands
We need to not focus on the region but focus on the needs etc maybe I can get them onboard by then
Fafer-09/19/2017
maybe i should talk wit tark
for many years , gemico has more space teh it can hold because we were smart
but this istuation now is untenablewe are fucking stretched
i belived that, with this we would move fcon north a bit as discussed long ago....
well if its not going then its no
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
If you do that there is no chance of it happening
Fafer-09/19/2017
this is also first class startegic issue
getting horde on our side permanently
we are paying them now
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I know how Tark works I am getting him worked on it
Fafer-09/19/2017
if tehy get space we have for free
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I understand
Fafer-09/19/2017
like, im not evil person
but reality is that fcpon doesnt have fc team
i have seen the whining after 1 week of tri invasion
and, this will be for at least 6 months until we pull fcon up the ladder
no offense to anyone
you know that too
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
No we talked about it me uax and tark
Before they joined
No offense to anyone
They have the bodies but no fcs
Fafer-09/19/2017
fcon needs to survive that time
if for exampe drone lands get attacked by someone
say snuff
then xix will have no choice but be there
and then fcon is alone
well
its overexageration but its not far
horde solves that
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Well I have the issue that uax promised him what he promised him so I have to get him to let go of that
Fafer-09/19/2017
its not issue if tark does that willingly
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
That's where I am leading it
Fafer-09/19/2017
i mean tark is long time elader and politician hes not stipid on the ontrary
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I have known him in RL for years I know how to get him there we are talking tonight about it
Fafer-09/19/2017
he must realize the trtuh, does he
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Not really
Fafer-09/19/2017
argh olool
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
He has been working a lot so I haven't had much time to explain the current politics of his situation
Fafer-09/19/2017
wel i doubt he is stupid
so if you explain what i told oyu , 10 minutes
he would understand
maybe we should involve him
get his input
if the problem is keepstar maybe horde can give hima notheer to anchor etc etc
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I am trying to be patient I am still a bit frustrated about what happened yesterday I will handle it tonight if not I will pull karer and uax in
Fafer-09/19/2017
you mean d85
well its still many times betetr that razor has it because they are not d85, they can be talked with and they will not do stupid shit
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
The other issue is the connection between pl and ph
Fafer-09/19/2017
ah you think that horde getting sov is some sort of invasion plan by pl?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Well it wasn't razors to have it either was to go to xix for rental or to be handed out by uax and karer as part of a deal
I don't
They do
Fafer-09/19/2017
heh
this whole thing wouldnt exist in the first place without nc or pl---
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
And it's not completely illogical to think that PH would allow PL to stage out of their space
Fafer-09/19/2017
in my opinon , nc and p are happy
should be
nc has bot, isk is coming, xix is giarding
pl has wermt, its buffered by us
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I have talked with Elise everything is fine
But it's not even about what me you and Tark know it's about line members and right now PL is evicting a PF alliance
Fafer-09/19/2017
it can be only, that there are some different opinions how south should drf stretch, give the minumum size of hunting preserve that pl wants with test etc

Fafer-09/19/2017
this whole thing wouldnt exist in the first place without nc or pl---
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
And it's not completely illogical to think that PH would allow PL to stage out of their space
Fafer-09/19/2017
in my opinon , nc and p are happy
should be
nc has bot, isk is coming, xix is giarding
pl has wermt, its buffered by us
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I have talked with Elise everything is fine
But it's not even about what me you and Tark know it's about line members and right now PL is evicting a PF alliance
Fafer-09/19/2017
it can be only, that there are some different opinions how south should drf stretch, give the minumum size of hunting preserve that pl wants with test etc
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Elise is fine with how things are
He has seen the agreement with test all is good
Fafer-09/19/2017
thats good although its not 100% as pl is consensus between fcs
for example "evicting of alliance"
are you talking about catch?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
That's one small group
Ya
Fafer-09/19/2017
well
catch isnt really drf space
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
It's about perception
No but it is PF space
And it was when they joined us
Fafer-09/19/2017
pf has far too many space given their defensive cpabilities(edited)
i dont fel catch si worth having or defending
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Agreed
Fafer-09/19/2017
historically its very turmulous region
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I am not talking about the space
I am talking about he perception of line members
Fafer-09/19/2017
line members do what leaders tell them and not listen to shit
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Roflmao
Fafer-09/19/2017
if line members are perceptuous, that means there is 5th column and spy drama queens that needs kick
is taht even a word, "perceptuous"
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
No it means their democracy doesn't work
Fafer-09/19/2017
democarcy in evem in sov holding entity ?!
--> disaster like d85
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Lol
Why do you think this shit is going on with army
Pants doesn't do well in a democracy
Fafer-09/19/2017
i dont know jay
to me it looks very simple
the path we need to go etc
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I don't disagree
It just isn't as easy with some English groups as it is with german or Russian or Serbian groups
Fafer-09/19/2017
one would thing englisg would understand military logic
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Lol
Fafer-09/19/2017
after all they were colonial power
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Tark is military I am military we will get there
Fafer-09/19/2017
and one would thing us guy would understand colonialism, and ... dominance
areas of influence
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
The us has overextended itself before
Fafer-09/19/2017
projection
etc
also like if you are cowboy you still have ranch owner taht tells that cattle go that way not this way
;
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Lol
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Yomod is on board with the basic idea
The question is what space is even available that they could get? If they dropped all of teneferis and handed it to horde for example and took detroid that would simply get them to level set then they would need a rental region
Did you ping out that ihub
Fafer-09/19/2017
no
i will need sleep soon
hrde needs half of region space equivalent
maybe a bit less if space is good or positioned as they like
fcon needs rental region?
but if they drop space to horde and lets say get equivalent space, then they are even
they survived and they get buffer and they are better positioned strategically
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Yes that is what Uax told them when they join
Fafer-09/19/2017
what is the quality level of pfed entities
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Was at least a region from Vanguard
Fafer-09/19/2017
are tehy all that much pvp powerhouses or elevated renters?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
In between Their biggest issue is they never recovered yet from the FC drain when they left the imperium
Fafer-09/19/2017
solar is not doing much atm?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
They haven't done much at all
Fafer-09/19/2017
so tri has lets say 3/4 of insmother
and 5/6 of detroid
so if army leaves tenerfis thats 1/3 of tenerifis
and indeally lets say imensea 1/6 to horde
i const
1
3/4 ofinsmother covers that pf loses
generously
theers still 5/6 of detroid to divide=
so maybe there is answer somewhere about rental space
are you awa re of any deals for solar to get something?
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Insmother has already been promised to other groups of course one constellation was probably going to razor so we can free that up
Fafer-09/19/2017
but whos geting insmother'
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Gemico groups
Fafer-09/19/2017
ah shit
well then i dont know
lol
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Honestly I was thinking about giving up on the oasa constellation because we need a lot of rental income because of how much has been put out for this war
Fafer-09/19/2017
nah this wasnt expensive
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
We are at Trillions right now
Fafer-09/19/2017
most isk was shelled out 3-4 years ago when xix obtained drone lands back
and then against solar and tri
pl contracts, 2x 400
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
I am aware
Fafer-09/19/2017
nulli, 150
nc 400
lolz
or was it 350
anyway

Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
That system is good and I told zoya that it will be being given to a group
And they are joining the drf proper?
Fafer-09/19/2017
No
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Who are the joining and are they going to be blue?
Fafer-09/19/2017
But if theyvare blue with drf, and fighting nsh, then for our intents and purposes they are
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
That is what I was referring to
Fafer-09/19/2017
One shitvsystem in exchange is bargain
Jay Maricadie-09/19/2017
Agreed
Fafer-09/19/2017
I dont thinknthey even wantvsov
September 20, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Got 100% confirmation that nsh is Working with tri and army’s availability tonight may be a little light PL has ramped thing up and there is a final timer with them tonight
Fafer-09/20/2017
well i talked with pants
sah is his home...
what do they have with pl
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Final fort timer I think
I just told everyone if I don’t hear from karer in the next 8 hours I am going to green light their soft deployment
And you know about BSIT’s ihub timer before that right
Fafer-09/20/2017
no
when is that
i now doe sah fort onlining, and i know for detroid fort from frt
plus capital trainings at 19 and 02
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
@everyone CTA: 2017-09-20 23:28:28 EVE Time. This is the timer for our iHub in FZX. We need ALL HANDS for this. We need combat ships, toasters etc. FC to be determined. Please plan on being logged in 30 minutes ahead of time!!! Lets call it 23:00. Formup will be in I2D unless otherwise specified by the FC after this notice.
That’s the ping
Fafer-09/20/2017
what do you ahve in that ihub
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Pretty much fully upgraded lol
Fafer-09/20/2017
ffs
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
We can handle it unless they fully hit it with everything
Fafer-09/20/2017
18, 23, 02, 03, 07
something will have to be droped
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
They also have a staging poses in spire and kelevala
Fafer-09/20/2017
i feel that kalevela can take some dick
same as cobalt is taking
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Unless they show up in full cap and supers we will be fine
Fafer-09/20/2017
once daddy is home they will all disappear
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
The longer/later the timer goes the stronger we wil get
Fafer-09/20/2017
how is test doing?
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Me and fork talked and unless they go 100% at us we will just handle it
Fafer-09/20/2017
will they commit fully to pl or ill they also come to hit tri
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
And in that case the other timers will be a cake walk
They are cleaning things up and then going after tri with us full force
Fafer-09/20/2017
when will taht happen , timewise?
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
In a week or so
Fafer-09/20/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
I think honestly they did that ihub timer to try to distract from the other timers
What do we have going on at 23;00?
Fafer-09/20/2017
your igzb
ihub
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Oh ok
I will let you guys know if it looks like they are coming in full force
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
https://zkillboard.com/kill/64798968/
zkillboard.com
Fortizar | LoW Holding Corp | Killmail
(LoW Holding Corp) lost their Fortizar in WB-AYY (Tenerifis). Final Blow by Ordo GArr (ElitistOps) flying in a Thanatos. Total Value: 13,935,244,991.49 ISK

A bit of a problem
Fafer-09/20/2017
its terrible fit fort
we are now fighting in ah
sah
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
Ok 100 pl on it is what I was concerned about
And yes it’s a horrible fit
Fafer-09/20/2017
thats the hunting ground of the south
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
100 pl with tri
Ok?
Fafer-09/20/2017
i wouldt stress too much about that
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
It’s against the agreement Elise made with me and uax
Fafer-09/20/2017
im sure pl would kill tri supers if they catch them lol
yes well PL is not monolithic entity and often you have fcs doing shit
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
I am aware they been doing shit for a week
Fafer-09/20/2017
if you ask me, put horde where I said and make buffer
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
You do that you will destroy PF and Fcon teneferis is their main money making region I had a long conversation with tark today he is not budging I would need uax to talk to him
Fafer-09/20/2017
fcon and pf are fragile and tark should primarily think about fcon
although pl doing thin is coicidence, it certainly doesnt help because now it looks like they may have plans with horde etc
but they dont
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
If Pl was serious they would have 500 supers in immensea right now
Fafer-09/20/2017
its about who call pl first for help
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
That is probably one of the worst fits I have seen lol
Fafer-09/20/2017
its visible from the airplane it will not work
the whole concept
xix lives in geminate
if gemico gets sov in insmother, xix can come help them
solar is nearby
xix cant come every day from bwf in geminate to fcons help
if xix would move to central psition, they cant cover the drone lands anymore
so, fcon will have to adapt
better sooner than later which may be more painfull
Jay Maricadie-09/20/2017
http://evenews24.com/2017/09/21/new-eden-annals-gone-native/
Eve News24
Johann Landier
New Eden Annals - Gone Native

Fafer-09/20/2017
interesting
how much does johan knows about your plans etc
September 21, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
?
Fafer-09/21/2017
it was a thought after the article
seems you work a lot with johan
did you tell him things that he may be relaying
things that you wouldnt want to be relayed
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
No that was an interview with sylaz
That’s all from his mouth
Or are you talking about something rlse
Else
Fafer-09/21/2017
just saying dont trust johan as he is journalist
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
He has a reputation for keeping his word what do you have?
Fafer-09/21/2017
that he is en24
speaks volumes?
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
As compared to what INN?
Fafer-09/21/2017
same
you really dont know when such person would want to write memoires, emulating "empires of eve"
thats their thing they write stiff to get their .. satisfactin?
so they will be writing
thats why i dont tell them jck shit beyond what they need to know about the article
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
I don’t control evenews24 contrary to popular belief if laz wants to do an interview ?
Fafer-09/21/2017
i telling about general principle
just forget it
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
I don’t tell anyone anything more than they need to know lol
Fafer-09/21/2017
k
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
And if I do tell someone something they probably didn’t need to know usually it’s a canary trap
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
Now starting to get reports that gewns are starting to camp different areas in drones
So goons interfering with strategic objectives and cloaky camping
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
Anyways how you doing?
Fafer-09/21/2017
well tomorow ill go to 5 day vacation with gf
i will not login much but ill eb around, only slightly less
and need to do cap traiing today and instruct people
how are you doing health wise?
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
getting ready for my next surgery but ok
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
do you know Omar Mokhtar
Fafer-09/21/2017
yes
he is ex nc went to goons to be fc
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
ok that makes sense
he is one of the ones involved in trying to take you out
Fafer-09/21/2017
that was long ago, the leak, he wasnt taking me out just giving intel to someone
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
https://pastebin.com/qCpYXnEx
Pastebin
15:44 WalrusWhiskers sup 15:45 Eightfold_Way Hey! Actually, you caught me at a - Pastebin.com

this is an interesting read
spoken in code
Fafer-09/21/2017
this looks like europa universalis
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
except
it talks about fcon and talking about eve
just using europa universalis
Fafer-09/21/2017
i dont thikn thats eve theres too many countries
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
yes they refer to regions/alliances
brb
Fafer-09/21/2017
the talk they do is not applicable to eve - even if we assume tehy speak in codes, it looks like gibberish
Jay Maricadie-09/21/2017
thats the point
i will try to translate it later

Jay Maricadie-09/24/2017
Probably going to be 4 26foot trucks
Fafer-09/24/2017
That sounds like moving business mot home lol
September 25, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
How are you doing?
Fafer-09/25/2017
Om enjoing hvacatipn with gf
Vacation
Im happy
Be back wednesday
Will be
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
Have fun
Fafer-09/25/2017
Thanks
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
This shit has to end with sylaz and Kirsty
And he lied to me said it was someone in fcon and then said it was someone he couldn’t disclose the source
Fafer-09/25/2017
This can be many things
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
It’s one thing
It’s bullshit
Fafer-09/25/2017
Kirsty is risking a lot saying things and this could have been canzry
Anyway thats all i will say
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
Yes Kirsty is
ALOT
He needs to go through you
Period
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
I don’t have time for the bullshit
Kirsty needs to go through you for all intel like that this way too many time this has happened and all it has done is cause drama and annoy everyobe
Everyone
Fafer-09/25/2017
Channel is killed
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
Ya I keft
Left
Fafer-09/25/2017
And i go wat squids
Eat
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
 enjoy
Lady has confirmed it’s bullshit
Fafer-09/25/2017
Gobbins talked with directirs they are fine with tenerifis part without immensea
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
Why not catch or somewhere else teneferis is really not on the menu at the moment
Fafer-09/25/2017
I dunno lol
Fafer-09/25/2017
Things will unfold
I suppose we are not that in hurry anyway, theybare paid so they are aligned
Jay Maricadie-09/25/2017
Your supposed to be with your gf stop messaging me lol
September 27, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Btw I am aroune
Around
Fafer-09/27/2017
im back
had few words with pants
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Ya I heard
Any other groups your taking sov with?
Fafer-09/27/2017
im not taking any sov
im still chating with pants
they have delay because theres incursion in lxq
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Yup
Fafer-09/27/2017
and, they intend to move out only after the war to er
thats not something i like because its long time
so im questioning him whose sov it is
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
What
Fafer-09/27/2017
ill come to that
gimme sec we will voice
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
They are deploying
I am on phone calls
Fafer-09/27/2017
no i mean move to live there
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Yes he is not dropping sov in the middle of a war
Moving that many assets during a war would be insane
Fafer-09/27/2017
no it would no
no it wuldnt

i may have ,,, some ideas
poke me when you done
and we will talk
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
What issue are you trying to fix
Fafer-09/27/2017
im doing my job
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Ok
And what are you trying to fix in your job
Fafer-09/27/2017
to defend and preserve the ntural orderin drone lands , as always
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Lol
army is deploying to come help
Fafer-09/27/2017
i know
but i foresee the problems with them getting there to live there
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
like?
Fafer-09/27/2017
so when you finish your rl, call me ok?
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
I will be free in about 5 for about 10
Fafer-09/27/2017
sure
its not urgent
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Ok I am free
Fafer-09/27/2017
sec
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
as far as the razor deal its 100% done?
Fafer-09/27/2017
Yea i suppose it is, they now need to weed out d85 eternal carebears out and make yhem rent or pay or gtfo
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
that just sucks i guess we will back it
puts me in a shitty position lol
Fafer-09/27/2017
youre not in shitty position t all
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
are you kidding
Fafer-09/27/2017
nope
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
that was xix space
if i take another constellation it fucks xix for tons of rental income
Fafer-09/27/2017
well, thats always subject to interpretations, d85 bought that sov back then
we were about to "nationalize" them
or should we say fuck them because tehy wer useless
not black and white situation
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
lol ok
Fafer-09/27/2017
but this way, im happy that razor got some reward, that they will weed out the assholes and most importantly they have now 2keepstars safed
its not ideal in a sense that you did not get it, but i explained you therationale

Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
d85 was part of gemico they are disbanding it wasn't anyones sov to give to anyone
Fafer-09/27/2017
yea that we would say when taking their sov
sure tey would maybe paste the deal they had with xix on reddit, but i doubt that they have archive that old
and as I said, you are in no shitty position because you just snap with fngers now and have another constellation
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
either way it costs xix alot of isk
without consulting with xix
Fafer-09/27/2017
xix knew about that
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
karer didn't
Fafer-09/27/2017
it was few months back
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
yes we all discussed the possiblity no one signed off on it
Fafer-09/27/2017
no one also did signed not to
that may sometimes be problem when things need to happen but theres nobody to sign or not to sign
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
i was around
Fafer-09/27/2017
you were new, and in some ways still are, I guess yu will need few more moths
months
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
i am not new just wasn't visible
been around for almost 15 years otherwise i wouldn't just randomly be asked to be in the position i am in
anyways its done
it is what it is
Fafer-09/27/2017
yea if you are 15 years then you understand the necesities and that sometimes thing dont play 100% , but with work, eventually they do
i really dont see big deal with you in another const
its same thing in the end
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
It costs the coalition tons of rent if I do that not to mention all of oasa is rented out pretty much
Fafer-09/27/2017
its a circle - entities come and go
much like sod, brothers, old gamers, ... those that i dont remember and now d85
only we stay
we need razor
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
Yes they had space allocated for them elsewhere oh well it just makes more work for me again it is what it is
Fafer-09/27/2017
ive been in your shoes, and still am
i can say things I say, because I did sacrifices
many times i wanted to ask for something, yet i saw we needed a group and the this group would get sov what i wanted
i liked that pocket alot few years agp
ago*
but it was more imortant to stabilize and survive
with that I got the trust of everyone, and certain space to make some calls in the vacuum
i waited 3 years to get my pocet
you can have yours pretty fast
and everyone will be happy
Jay Maricadie-09/27/2017
oh i am not worried about that i made a deal back in may and it will happen
September 28, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
ty sir i just have too much going on with karer being afk lol
Fafer-09/28/2017
yea its nbd i will plot thme safe route via keepstars and forts
if they can speak
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
ty
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
You going to be around this weekend I want to do a high level planning meeting about ER etc
Fafer-09/28/2017
well all im doing now is herding dcu supers
until end of week
ill bring mine too
then i will rain fire and destruction
and leak a screnshoot of dscan so all this sub players can fuck off with their edgy gameplay
nothing speaks like 50-100 supers with cap fleet
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Army is moving a good batch of caps too
Fafer-09/28/2017
then we see what we do
merge with xx and solar
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Assuming pl doesn’t murder them
Fafer-09/28/2017
or, ill be forced to go and kill some assholes in drone lands
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Solar is fucking with insmother hard atm
Fafer-09/28/2017
well guess what thats not happening lol
like, no way i will be remotely closer then 50 mids from pl lolol
im not stupid
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Pretty much
I love Elise but like he would say don’t cut your hand and then put it in front of the hungry shark
So you can talk this weekend
Fafer-09/28/2017
yes
who will be present

Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Karer, you, manfried, fork, antar, and pants probably it’s mainly to make sure no one is stepping on toes and everyone mentioned respects each other so it shouldn’t be an issue also I want to make sure there is clear chain I want you manfried and pants to be the main ones leading things we are probably going to be able to tap some other local allies who would like to survive or that hate nsh also the three of you are really the only ones I trust to be batphoning NC etc
Fafer-09/28/2017
do you thikn drf can have internal strategy meetong ebfore lets say, with test
ah ok
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Yes tha needs to happen too
I am hoping we can deal with this shit with what we have and nc backing us
Fafer-09/28/2017
theres no šroblem with chain in dcu
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
?
Fafer-09/28/2017
no problem with chain its known
manny did good thing yesterday
he called ncdot via wh
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Yup
Fafer-09/28/2017
so they did damage to nsh
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
I am driving right now can you do voice
Fafer-09/28/2017
given his pl background im sure he can materialize pl through hole if needed
secret is only call pl before other side does
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
Yep
Fafer-09/28/2017
i would like to do it tomorrow because my throat is fucked i can abrely speak
im sick
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
OK
Also it sounds like we are having some logistics problems do you want me to set up a jump freighter army to get them dealt with
I also have a shit ton of Mckeriels
If we need any
Fafer-09/28/2017
if you do have mach we can introduce mach doctrine so you can sell them
Jay Maricadie-09/28/2017
I will check how many I have lol don’t know if I have enough for that
September 29, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
FYI I gave Tytalus the system from xwx that is next to their main system in their pocket
Fafer-09/29/2017
ah thats fine
we will need to revisit the perrigen after the war
reason is, boss has left, and im not sure that we have enough local defence there
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
ya it was unreneted and i guess he had asked about it months ago
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
Well darkness has sided against us it looks like
That will make UAX thrilled
Fafer-09/29/2017
it just adds to the confusion
i mean its good news by all means
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
It is going to piss him off after they spurned our attempts at a diplo agreement
Fafer-09/29/2017
we have cta for xvv soon
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
Yup
Fafer-09/29/2017
im curious what will be
if test will show
etc
have you got the money
to pay pizzas, horde etc?
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
I will soon
I don’t see how darkness siding with our enemies
Is a good thing
Fafer-09/29/2017
now that theres no co2, it should have been ours to crush tri with test(edited)
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
well it looks like the reason he spurned the mutual defense with us besides not giving him a trillion isk was becasue he planned on siding with tri
Fafer-09/29/2017
nah he hates tri
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
i know
Fafer-09/29/2017
im happy that we did not make mutual defence with them, because if ncpl attack them, then we are drawn in
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
ya he fucked himself
Fafer-09/29/2017
now its not going to happen, but for some time it was hanging in the air
Jay Maricadie-09/29/2017
oh well
September 30, 2017
Jay Maricadie-09/30/2017
Do you have time for a quick call
Fafer-09/30/2017
gimme 5
October 1, 2017
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
It’s happening lol
Fafer-10/01/2017
what
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/73mm76/the_initiative_to_deploy_to_curse_to_aid_in_the/
reddit
The Initiative. to deploy to Curse to aid in the Tri lead assault on FCON • r/Eve
Citing a breach of a previously agreed NAP with Legacy, The Initiative have just announced that they will deploy to Curse to assist Triumvirate in...

Fafer-10/01/2017
thats awesome
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
Yes it is
Fafer-10/01/2017
on so many levels
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
Yup
Fafer-10/01/2017
that means nc will come too
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
And pl
Fafer-10/01/2017
that means nc and pl will be against tri
yes
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
And mc and gotg probably too
Sort is rethinking our agreement now

I love it when things come together
And it proves we where right about a deal with imperium and patrick
Publically
Had a few people be like looks like you right
Lol
Now battle lines will be drawn clearly and shit will happen
And with the articles coming it should make for a very interesting eve vegas
Fafer-10/01/2017
who are ranger regiment ?
guys that are taking sov in detroid
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
No idea
Who are they with
Fafer-10/01/2017
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Detorid/E-1XVP
DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Detorid
DOTLAN EveMaps is the leading online/interactive map/alliance/corporation resource database for Eve Online

they look chinks
Jay Maricadie-10/01/2017
Are they not part of the coalition with frat
New serenity group
October 2, 2017
Jay Maricadie-10/02/2017
Can you reach out to NC and PL and see if the rumors of hitting the keepstar in 4-g are true

Fafer-10/04/2017
move on
we have work to do this evening and night
all is fine
antar ... ill speak with him, he is not completely right, neither is vamps
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
And Him flipping on army
Fafer-10/04/2017
when they cool down
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
Being in the wrong and not even apologizing
Fafer-10/04/2017
army is separate issue(edited)
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
It’s the negativity that’s the issue
Fafer-10/04/2017
you are making that issue
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
Lol ok
Fafer-10/04/2017
considering how fcs talk in other alliances, this is baby talk
move on i have work to do

Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
So do I
Fafer-10/04/2017
i really hope we can heashot ias
but i need to stop typeing now theres move op
we can talk in few hours
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
I am good
There is nothing going on with gotg that was an op with your buddy sylaz the fc was Working for sylaz it has been dealt with
Fafer-10/04/2017
thats interesting
would be more interesting if you have proof
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
Lol I do
You either blind to him or something else
Fafer-10/04/2017
otherwise, no offense, for me its just 2 capable people that somehow had their horns locked doing the moves lol
ok proove me
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
You will see when I unveil it all
Fafer-10/04/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
And you where saying
Sylaz is trying to kick off war between us and gotg lol
I do not want any info about drf being shared with him until he is dealt with
Fafer-10/04/2017
i hear that gotg is entosising again
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
thats what i just said
its a spy FC working for sylaz
Fafer-10/04/2017
i also dont understand how you can connect sylaz into this, because he has 0 influence in gotg
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
because i have the logs of him bragging about it
and one of his dudes he is working with has flipped
and the back end star chamber stuff
anyways
Fafer-10/04/2017
i think this is just some stupid gotg guy who has no idea about politics, and less likely that sort dragon is flexing a bit , shit that he is
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
fortunately it is neither
anyways
Fafer-10/04/2017
and, given that sylaz has zero influence in gotg, because sort hates him ,
i also dont think perrigen is much important atm
of importance is tri headshoot
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
THE FC THAT IS PUSHING THIS IS A SPY WORKING FOR SYLAZ
gotg has already burned two out
Fafer-10/04/2017
look, gotg is not democracy, and its ruked by sort dragon
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
and sort is in the air
Fafer-10/04/2017
ruled*
Jay Maricadie-10/04/2017
and johan is also traveling
Fafer-10/04/2017
any rebellion is dealt swiftly with

Fafer-10/05/2017
like dont they hate tri
arent they happy tri is shafted
and what they do
Jay Maricadie-10/05/2017
you would think
Fafer-10/05/2017
yes, i would think
Jay Maricadie-10/05/2017
i let karer know i was retracting our offer of a diplomatic agreement
Fafer-10/05/2017
gotg fc was rocky
Jay Maricadie-10/05/2017
Ty
October 6, 2017
Fafer-10/06/2017
army seems to be introuble https://eveskunk.com/e/367950012
Jay Maricadie-10/06/2017
That has been in the works for like a mnth
Fafer-10/06/2017
they had 9 man cta fleet
Jay Maricadie-10/06/2017
That sucks sorry got much more important fish to fry atm
Fafer-10/06/2017
looks like this move to etherium is unpopular with their members
sure
its not critical
Fafer-10/06/2017
are you at vegas?
Jay Maricadie-10/06/2017
No
October 8, 2017
Fafer-10/08/2017
you ok jay?
October 9, 2017
Jay Maricadie-10/09/2017
I am fine
October 10, 2017
Fafer-10/10/2017
https://zkillboard.com/character/631799009/
zkillboard.com
Black Saint | Character
Black Saint: 174 ships destroyed and 42 ships lost.

People say this is erebus, belonging to sort dragon, seen in mto
As of this night
Also they are anchoring a keepstar
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
It used to I don’t know if it stilll does but he should still be in the air
Fafer-10/10/2017
Well we will form whatvwe can, karer knows
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
Tell him to call me ASAP I got uax on
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
well played
Fafer-10/10/2017
what are you talking about
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
sort, johann and sylaz just character assassinated me
Fafer-10/10/2017
i find sor-laz cooperation very unlikely
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
http://evenews24.com/2017/10/10/undiplomatic-how-a-bad-diplomat-led-his-coalition-to-a-war-they-didnt-want/
Eve News24
Johann Landier
Undiplomatic - How a bad diplomat led his coalition to a war they didn't want

Fafer-10/10/2017
I see
that MTO thing was error
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
wasnt my call
Fafer-10/10/2017
i suppose we will have 2 fronts now
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
lol i just got character assassinated
Fafer-10/10/2017
welcome to the club
did you spoke with anyone like uax or karer
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
he is getting the logs on everything
i may go down but my bet is alot of other people will too

Fafer-10/10/2017
like entire drf
if we dont do someting
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
lol
Fafer-10/10/2017

its not that gloomy but its not easy situation
Jay Maricadie-10/10/2017
It won’t be
Soon
I hear he just hit me again in foreplay lol
October 28, 2017
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Well fcon is about to die should be interesting
Fafer-10/28/2017
do you till talk with tark
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Ya why
Fafer-10/28/2017
what would he say, if test would take over
they have fcs and organisation
they can goive hope
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
I don’t think they would mind
Fafer-10/28/2017
and then front will hold
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Rat salat tried a bit
If it is going to work it would have to be now
They have less than a week by my estimating
Fafer-10/28/2017
before everybody runs away to sort dragon or wherver
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Maybe less
It may already be too late jesus go away for a couple weeks and the wheels fall off
Fafer-10/28/2017
i think pfed should merge into legacy
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Lol
Probably going to happen regardless
Fafer-10/28/2017
gotg are numerous
we are holding
but .. we need xix in drones
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Yup
Fafer-10/28/2017
and pfed is cascading
so , they will
question is then wht to do
if test takes over pfed, that means test is buffering against tri bit
and stalling them
or else test may be on the menu of tri+pl
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Most likely
With uax and karer afk it’s pretty much fucked
Oh well
I tried to stop it and got crucified so don’t care
This is not going to work out well for the drf
At the very least everyone will have an interesting Christmas
Fafer-10/28/2017
yes lol
told you to not involve sort ...
but, i thikn it will end ok
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
I was doing what uax asked
That is it
He wanted an agreement with them
I didn’t want to talk to the snaky mothefucker
He has fucked me multiple times in the past people like that don’t change
Which is what I told uax
Wasn’t my call
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Me and sort will have our reckoning in court soon but that is another issue that has nothing to do all this
Ya fcon is done
They will probably move north and help
Jay Maricadie-10/28/2017
Did you listen to the meta show
Fafer-10/28/2017
nah
October 29, 2017
Jay Maricadie-10/29/2017
Pizza is now hostile karer agreed to pay them and didnt
Jay Maricadie-10/29/2017
So be cautious of skill yourself now
Jay Maricadie-10/29/2017
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/79i14l/meanwhile_in_phoenix_fed_after_tbc_just_announced/
reddit
Meanwhile in Phoenix Fed, after TBC just announced they are leaving the coalition, someone else has yet to announce: • r/Eve
From: Tingerz Sent: 2017.10.28 15:01 To: SERIN SECRET MAILS, To my fellow members, It is with the sincerest of heavy hearts that I come to you...

November 11, 2017
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
It’s truly unfortunate johann got canned
Is there a reason you booted me from dcu stuff while I was afk?
Fafer-11/11/2017
All inactives were purged especially fcs , by joint effort of admins
How js your health ?
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Eh
I am alive
Just glad I don’t have to deal with the bullshit anymore
Fafer-11/11/2017
Thats good
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Never wanted the shit in the first place
Just enjoying people imploding left and right should be a good next few months
Good news is sort doesn’t have control of evenews24 anymore

Fafer-11/11/2017
Why is that
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Johann got fired lol
Did you think I would let what happened stand?
Fafer-11/11/2017
But who has control now
Who is the owner btw
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Riverini but they are broke
One by one they will all fall
Fafer-11/11/2017
Reddit is killing all
Except inn
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
No one will fund evenews24 either
Funny how that worked out
https://youtu.be/2f_k8Z6CPcE
YouTube
RassilonsRevenger
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes to War - Clip 2

Watch that
Looks like everybody’s dancing to the goons tune
When you don’t have anything to loose it makes you very dangerous indeed it’s kind of liberating
To further answer your question had a death in the family and waiting for my next surgery
Fafer-11/11/2017
im sorry to hear that
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Eh it is what it is
Fafer-11/11/2017
although surgery is probably what you need to stay alive so its good news that you will have it
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
Well what’s fucked up is sort and Johann and sylaz knew that when they did what they did
But all is fair in love and war I guess
Btw if you loose access to aegis I have spun up a service just like it if not better
Fafer-11/11/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-11/11/2017
It was a good idea never thought of using spy relays like that
November 12, 2017
Jay Maricadie-11/12/2017
Just was curious as to why I was removed as Bandit wasn’t
November 13, 2017
Fafer-11/13/2017
hes not afk i hope?
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Neither of us are
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
So I have always been straight with you where you actually involved with johann, sort, lady, seraph? Etc?
I mean I know the intel seraph gave me was fake and have for quite awhile
Why didn’t you just tell me I would have stepped down I didn’t want the job or the headache
Where you a part of their plan
Fafer-11/13/2017
im not doing any plans with sort, jay
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
No
Seraph and lady?
Fafer-11/13/2017
i dont communicate with seraph
what would be the point lol
lady scarlet i work with on bot
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
This plan they all executed to take me down etc
Fafer-11/13/2017
i dont think lady does that kind of plans
she is too powerfull to bother with such things
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Lol
Fafer-11/13/2017
if something isnt the way she would want, she only needs to tell vince and then he rolls supers its that simple
and supers are actually happy to have to do something
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
They been actively coming after me as the bogey man for a month and seraph painted you as being in this big conspiracy with them all
Fafer-11/13/2017
sure
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
?
Fafer-11/13/2017
what "?" lol
read one seraph's article on en24 to establish his credibility
person have no idea what he is talking about lol
he fishes in murky water, he presumes, fills the gaps as he thiks it is - for most part truth is totally out of reach for him
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Then we should talk so you can have everything
Fafer-11/13/2017
however speaking of such things you did mistake
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
That’s the reason I have not talked to you in a month and a half
Fafer-11/13/2017
and that was letting test to mto
that was the catalyst
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Uax told me to wasn’t my decision
Fafer-11/13/2017
yes i know
but you should hve told him to fuck off, or wake me up
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
You know i didn’t want the job in the first place
Well soon one by one they will start dropping I dumped everything I had when it happened with instructions to drop logs each month for the next year johann was the first
So you honestly where not working with sylaz and Johann and seraph like they painted you where?
Fafer-11/13/2017
i did not work
but i did talk with sylaz, and others, like i always do to form a picture
that is normal
at the moment you appeared, i was cautious
as i should be, this is eve
i mean i talk with lot of people
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes I get that
Fafer-11/13/2017
even sort sometimes, or goons
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
And I know
Fafer-11/13/2017
i mean, the very way you were appointed was wrong
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Where you actually part of the plan to get co2 to attack us, tri, kill fcon, alienate test and destabilize the drf and the plan to cruicify my reputation to get me out of the way? Do you want the stuff seraph sent me that I know he made up
Fafer-11/13/2017
usually, leader sends a ping or post and says "he is diplo"
that did not happen with you
so most of drones were squinting at you
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes I am aware I didn’t ask for it
Fafer-11/13/2017
like, you said you are spymaster, then you say you are diplo
but who said you are?
that did not really help

Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Uax
Fafer-11/13/2017
in normal organisatins, appontments are announced
yes but after 2 weeks even 3
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
I don’t disagree
Made my job 100x harder
Fafer-11/13/2017
is it normal that person shold go hunt leaders to confirm lol
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Ok I think we are taking about two different things
Fafer-11/13/2017
as to what I did, I think my lost dreads speaks for themself
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
What are you taking about
Fafer-11/13/2017
i would be with sort if i was against drf?
dcu lost 110 dreads on that keepstar
most of it is badfellas, my alliance

Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
That’s why I am talking to you
Also you have never outright lied to me
Fafer-11/13/2017
so, that would be cotradictory to em wanting to destabilize drf
with my network of dcu keepstars and forts ...
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
You have omitted
But never lied
Fafer-11/13/2017
if i was with sort
...
but no, i was not
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Then I need to give you everything I have
And I was wrong for not trusting you
Fafer-11/13/2017
i think jay, that you need to relax
and let this go
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
But honestly when people like lady and sort and Johann and seraph stabbin me it made a bit hard to trust
Fafer-11/13/2017
i mean yes i would be interested to rad stuff
this has been taxing for me and its not over yet
there are still tri to be dealt with, and some small assholes
i dont belive ls would be bothering with this as i explained
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Then why is she still coming after me
When I have sat on my hands
Fafer-11/13/2017
dunno
you are the guilty guy for this

Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes but why
Fafer-11/13/2017
test in mto
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Literally I did what I was told
That’s it
I don’t buy that for a second
That might have been the catalyst
That started it
Fafer-11/13/2017
it is complex, the eve politics
lot ofinterests, some opposite , some intertwined
test in mto was catalyst for sure, and you are guilty
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Somebody could have told me
This is why i always stayed behind the scenes
Fuck politica
Fafer-11/13/2017
well, after my skype with you and uax, i stayed away
i had lot of work to prepare dreads
if you remembe i told you that i hope you did not kill the drf with that
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes and what choice did I have?
Did you think that was my idea
Fafer-11/13/2017
to do what was needed and to say test they can go stage in venal
instead of mto, there was no reason for them to be there
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Fuck you know how many long days I dealt with dealing with all the bullshit from it
Uax wanted them there to keep them restrained
Fafer-11/13/2017
tat test move coicidentially was timed same as goons wasnt it
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Ok?
Fafer-11/13/2017
so you can understand panfam resentment
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
I warned them weeks before
People act like I had the ability to just put test in mto
I wrote up the agreement as dictated to by uax and pgl
And so now I am some huge goons spy because of it
Fafer-11/13/2017
yea but, problem is uax was long time out, you were new.. you 2 could have brought this agreement for reading to karer
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
When I have probably done more against the imperium than anyone else
Fafer-11/13/2017
he would have told you same thing as me
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Karer was rhere
Fafer-11/13/2017
in fact in the continuation they did move out of mto
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes because uax and me asked them to?
After dozens of diplomatic incidents
And them pushing the agreement
As far as the constraints
Fafer-11/13/2017
this is all water that already passed under the bridge
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Like blowing up that ihub and cloaky camping
Fafer-11/13/2017
fact is test in mto was mistake, whoever made it, and you were responsible to stop it because you were there ...
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
I just don’t get why i am “guilty” when I was doing what I was told even if I said I disagreed with certain moves
Fafer-11/13/2017
rest is history
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Lady and Vince said it was fine
To both me and uax
So did Elise
Like wtf
Fafer-11/13/2017
but then goons came
entirely diff thing and test is good with goons?
have you erad about samsung
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Probably at this point with all the maneuvering they probably won’t have a choice now
Fafer-11/13/2017
or,volkswagen
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
In what respect
Fafer-11/13/2017
they are big corporations, and made mistakes
people were fired
executives
not owners
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes I get being the scapegoat
Which I am fine with
Fafer-11/13/2017
it goes with the job
comes with the job*
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Yes but that doesn’t change the fact vince helped plan the tri shit and nudged gigx into doing what he did
That was before mto
Fafer-11/13/2017
to me it just look like tri started their shit, and co2 tagged along
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Uax has the logs from months ago
Fafer-11/13/2017
the judge was already inside and turned, so the outcome would be same regardless of war or not
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
So do you want me to leave the drf?
Fafer-11/13/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
I never wanted all this bullshit in the first place
Fafer-11/13/2017
you are now red flag
for others
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
So I loose my game because I did what I was told
Fafer-11/13/2017
make new char
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
It would cost me a trillion isk to reroll
Fafer-11/13/2017
go play some other game something relaxing
like, mass effect 2
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Fuck that game
Fafer-11/13/2017
dragon age
and rest
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Now your being a dick lol
Fafer-11/13/2017
no im being good lol
you have also serious medical condition
this stress is not what you need
so go relax do things
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
That’s why I told him no multiple times
Fafer-11/13/2017
atm theres nothing you can do
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Should have stuck to my guns
Oh there is plenty I can do
Plenty that has been done
Fafer-11/13/2017
well its your choice then
drf is far from stabilized yet
theres one more conflict to finish
dont make this harder for us
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Well I planned on this becoming a possiblity years ago and planned accordingly
Nothing I have done has been to harm the drf or UAX
And wouldn’t even if uax asked me to leave
But sort and the rest of them
That is another story entirely
Just like johann

Fafer-11/13/2017
johan is pawn
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Pawns have to be taken off the board or eventually they can turn into queens
Fafer-11/13/2017
ah some pawns are just pawns
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Either way pawns are just as dangerous in the right circumstances
Trust me I love chess
Well if uax asks me I will leave
Sorry you feel that way
Fafer-11/13/2017
its logic ?
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Not really NC and PL have backed off and gotg is back krabbing
Fafer-11/13/2017
they can be back easily
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Why would they be I am gone and sitting in the middle of nowhere doing nothing
Or is that part of the deal you think they are trying to make with uax
Fafer-11/13/2017
those excecs that were fred tehy are nolonger in samsung or volkswagen
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Well if this was the real world I would have sued them into the stone age
Fafer-11/13/2017
i bet they got some severance packages
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Ya well I have not gotten shit
Except wasting hundreds of hours of my life and being attacked in game and in real life
So not a good analogy
Fafer-11/13/2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEEmORyxpho
YouTube
Viktor Sebők
6-Hour | EvE Online Ambient Music

Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Lol
So you think sort is being a pawn too?
Fafer-11/13/2017
i think everyone agree that gotg would not do what they did, if they had no permission from ncpl
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
Ofc
Fafer-11/13/2017
but in a strange way, everyone is a pawn in eve, even kings
Jay Maricadie-11/13/2017
That I know
Well giving me no place to go or anything to loose is a pretty bad move on their part
November 14, 2017
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Especially with all the stuff they know I have
Makes no sense
On another note be careful with pants he has been feeding stuff to sort and lady for quite awhile
Fafer-11/14/2017
unfortunately, he is not the alliance we wanted for etherium reach
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Nope
Fafer-11/14/2017
he is losing sov to 3-4 randoms
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
I tried to stop that deal but lady pushed it
And I had already stepped down at that point
Fafer-11/14/2017
do you have evidence for feeding sort ?
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Yes karer and tark do
Fafer-11/14/2017
ok
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Antar does as well
Fafer-11/14/2017
also who is that guy john bayilin
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Spy
Fafer-11/14/2017
he is supposedly new leader of fcon
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
No
Jake Lightman
Fafer-11/14/2017
ahh
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
You mean?
Fafer-11/14/2017
yes sorry
who is jake lightman
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
He was one of the vices of fcon for years
He is now ceo while tark is in the background
Fafer-11/14/2017
tark stepped down?
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Chairman kind of like karer and uax
Jake runs everything like karer
He is a lot more military minded
And not as nice as tark
So it’s a good thing
And he isn’t working 100 hours a week
So has uax talked to about the situation
Or karer
Fafer-11/14/2017
well i think after the news everyone is taking some time off
also we need ti be sure tehy will really leave etc
then to deal with tri i suppose
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Sorry I meant have you caught up with them
Fafer-11/14/2017
ill try to get karer today
we exchanged some skype chat but i need to talk about thungs7
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Well if he talks to me and asks me to leave I will
And won’t cause any issues except for the people who where behind this couldn’t stop that if I wanted to
Fafer-11/14/2017
ok Jay
I need afk now
have some sleep
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Have a good night I will send you the stuff tommorow I am going o bed
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Eh I pulled back what I could
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
I will be keeping my head down and as long as no one bugs me I will keep things to myself and won’t send any of the logs I have to CCP as my insurance policy
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
did you catch up with karer or uax?
Fafer-11/14/2017
no
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Was a deal cut to let fcon die as part of it?
Fafer-11/14/2017
i dont think so, no
but, fcon is collapsing further anyway and i think theres no cure for that
i mean tark is down so..
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Probably but uax and karer are not talking to them
Fafer-11/14/2017
i think most of fcons are moving somewhere atm, like transporting stuff
well tbh i think everyone is a bit unhappy with what happened
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
In what way?
Fafer-11/14/2017
well, for example I think fcon should have endured more, they collapsed to easily
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
I agree
Fafer-11/14/2017
it would seem they had 800b on stash
and keepstar
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
So is uax and karer just going to let them die hen?
Then
And does that mean bsit gets evicted?
Because if fcon will be killed off then bsit will be too
Fafer-11/14/2017
i dont know really
i think that, if fcon has no leadership, tha drf can use tha people and lead them better
considring how they collapsed

Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Jake is taking over
Fafer-11/14/2017
no fcs no leaders
while df has all
also question is can fcon live because theres no appropriate space
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
ER?
Fafer-11/14/2017
in theory now we will fuck TRI and get space so maybe they can live there
er is shit
good parts taken
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
It’s better than nothing
Fafer-11/14/2017
im sure fcon can ger shit systems but its not good
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Have either karer or uax said anything about our status the last thing I was told was to stay put and keep our heads down
Fafer-11/14/2017
i think thats for sure best thing atm
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
What to stay put
Fafer-11/14/2017
yes
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
And just disappear into a whole
Fafer-11/14/2017
well wormhole sounds good haha
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Lol
Fafer-11/14/2017
i hear theres lot of fun in there and iskk to earn
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Funny
You know what I am saying
Fafer-11/14/2017
my take on the matter is wha I said yesterday, you are not in position anymore so be quiet
and dont paint target on our backs
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Don’t intend to
Like I said I pulled back what I could
Well at least no one wants our shit pocket in kelevala lol
So there is that
Well I will go to my hole and mine and just do what I am asked lol
Jay Maricadie-11/14/2017
Why are people messenging me and telling me to stop the bullshit and stop doing things?
What did I do now?
November 15, 2017
Jay Maricadie-11/15/2017
?
December 8, 2017
Jay Maricadie-12/08/2017
Have them take my fucking name off the standings sheet so people stop messaging me jesus