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  1. Section 1: Teams
  2. Section 2: Scouting Report links
  3. Section 3: Conversations with BKC
  4. Section 4: Conversations with Stathakis
  5.  
  6. ----------
  7. Section 1
  8. ----------
  9.  
  10. Feel free to add/change nicknames.
  11.  
  12. -------
  13. Team 1
  14. -------
  15.  
  16. Starmie @ (No Item)
  17. - Recover
  18. - Blizzard
  19. - Thunder Wave
  20. - Hydro Pump / Thunderbolt
  21.  
  22. Rhydon (M) @ (No Item)
  23. - Earthquake
  24. - Rock Slide
  25. - Body Slam
  26. - Substitute
  27.  
  28. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  29. - Amnesia
  30. - Rest
  31. - Thunder Wave
  32. - Psychic
  33.  
  34. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  35. - Soft-Boiled
  36. - Thunder Wave
  37. - Reflect
  38. - Seismic Toss
  39.  
  40. Tauros (M) @ (No Item)
  41. - Body Slam
  42. - Hyper Beam
  43. - Earthquake
  44. - Blizzard
  45.  
  46. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  47. - Sleep Powder
  48. - Mega Drain / Stun Spore
  49. - Psychic
  50. - Explosion
  51.  
  52. Either run MD+HPump or TBolt+Stun.
  53.  
  54.  
  55. -------
  56. Team 2
  57. -------
  58. Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  59. - Psychic
  60. - Seismic Toss
  61. - Thunder Wave
  62. - Recover
  63.  
  64. Venusaur (M) @ (No Item)
  65. - Swords Dance
  66. - Hyper Beam
  67. - Sleep Powder
  68. - Razor Leaf
  69.  
  70. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  71. - Amnesia
  72. - Rest
  73. - Thunder Wave
  74. - Psychic
  75.  
  76. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  77. - Soft-Boiled
  78. - Thunder Wave
  79. - Reflect
  80. - Seismic Toss
  81.  
  82. Snorlax (M) @ (No Item)
  83. - Body Slam
  84. - Earthquake
  85. - Hyper Beam
  86. - Self-Destruct
  87.  
  88. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  89. - Body Slam
  90. - Blizzard
  91. - Earthquake
  92. - Hyper Beam
  93.  
  94. -------
  95. Team 3
  96. -------
  97. Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  98. - Psychic
  99. - Seismic Toss
  100. - Thunder Wave
  101. - Recover
  102.  
  103. Jolteon (M) @ (No Item)
  104. - Pin Missile
  105. - Thunderbolt
  106. - Thunder Wave
  107. - Double Kick
  108.  
  109. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  110. - Sleep Powder
  111. - Hyper Beam
  112. - Psychic
  113. - Explosion
  114.  
  115. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  116. - Body Slam
  117. - Blizzard
  118. - Earthquake
  119. - Hyper Beam
  120.  
  121. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  122. - Soft-Boiled
  123. - Thunder Wave
  124. - Ice Beam
  125. - Thunderbolt
  126.  
  127. Zapdos @ (No Item)
  128. - Drill Peck
  129. - Thunderbolt
  130. - Thunder Wave
  131. - Light Screen
  132.  
  133. ----------
  134. Section 2
  135. ----------
  136. https://puu.sh/jgbTe/8c560e9382.png
  137. https://puu.sh/jgsQI/ed987aeeaf.txt
  138.  
  139. ----------
  140. Section 3
  141. ----------
  142.  
  143. [28/07/2015 21:28:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: okay gimme an hour and I'll try and pull something out
  144. [28/07/2015 21:28:24] George S. [Disaster Area]: this is lots of stuff to work with though :D
  145. [28/07/2015 21:28:37] Kevin: ight
  146. [28/07/2015 21:31:18] Kevin: can i give stath your skype
  147. [28/07/2015 21:31:23] Kevin: he wants to learn rby
  148. [28/07/2015 21:31:23] George S. [Disaster Area]: sure
  149. [28/07/2015 21:31:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: that's cool with me
  150. [28/07/2015 21:35:06] George S. [Disaster Area]: hmm I was talking with someone bout reflectzam the other day lemme find out where if I can -
  151. [28/07/2015 21:35:14] Kevin: sec, gonna play for a tour
  152. [28/07/2015 21:35:42] George S. [Disaster Area]: aite
  153. [28/07/2015 21:47:02] George S. [Disaster Area]: slowbro+rhydon looks crisp af. Bro is the best mon to take out reflect zam basically
  154. [28/07/2015 22:14:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: Gengar (M) @ (No Item)
  155. - Hypnosis
  156. - Night Shade
  157. - Thunderbolt
  158. - Explosion
  159.  
  160. Rhydon (M) @ (No Item)
  161. - Earthquake
  162. - Rock Slide
  163. - Body Slam
  164. - Substitute
  165.  
  166. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  167. - Amnesia
  168. - Rest
  169. - Thunder Wave
  170. - Psychic
  171.  
  172. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  173. - Soft-Boiled
  174. - Thunder Wave
  175. - Reflect
  176. - Seismic Toss
  177.  
  178. Tauros (M) @ (No Item)
  179. - Body Slam
  180. - Hyper Beam
  181. - Thunderbolt
  182. - Blizzard
  183.  
  184. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  185. - Sleep Powder
  186. - Stun Spore
  187. - Psychic
  188. - Explosion
  189. [28/07/2015 22:15:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: slowbro's best way to break past reflect zam, Rhydon and Slowbro can both act as breakers
  190. [28/07/2015 22:15:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: Gar gets good MUs vs Jynx altho hmm
  191. [28/07/2015 22:15:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: I'm considering, vic is unlikely
  192. [28/07/2015 22:15:42] George S. [Disaster Area]: maybe a diff lead will work
  193. [28/07/2015 22:15:59] George S. [Disaster Area]: ok egg is standard and u need it in case of rocks. Chansey is Reflect since there's no lax to help vs opposing lax/tauros
  194. [28/07/2015 22:16:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: Tauros is Tbolt cos the team has kinda big Cloyster issues otherwise, and I realised maybe tbolt tauros is the way to go
  195. [28/07/2015 22:16:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: maybe if I go.. starmie lead though?
  196. [28/07/2015 22:16:34] George S. [Disaster Area]: that could be cool actually
  197. [28/07/2015 22:19:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: Ok try this INSTEAD of the previous team
  198. [28/07/2015 22:19:20 | Edited 22:21:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: Starmie @ (No Item)
  199. - Recover
  200. - Blizzard
  201. - Thunder Wave
  202. - Hydro Pump
  203.  
  204. Rhydon (M) @ (No Item)
  205. - Earthquake
  206. - Rock Slide
  207. - Body Slam
  208. - Substitute
  209.  
  210. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  211. - Amnesia
  212. - Rest
  213. - Thunder Wave
  214. - Psychic
  215.  
  216. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  217. - Soft-Boiled
  218. - Thunder Wave
  219. - Reflect
  220. - Seismic Toss
  221.  
  222. Tauros (M) @ (No Item)
  223. - Body Slam
  224. - Hyper Beam
  225. - Earthquake
  226. - Blizzard
  227.  
  228. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  229. - Sleep Powder
  230. - Mega Drain
  231. - Psychic
  232. - Explosion
  233. [28/07/2015 22:22:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: made a minor edit to that team actually.. MD>Stun on Eggy. You need SOMETHING to hit Starmie SE just in case and the little bit of extra pressure is welcome. That or run Tbolt>HPump on Mie but I think hitting Jynx that much harder is cool
  234. [28/07/2015 22:25:03] George S. [Disaster Area]: OOH I'm tempted to bring out like Slowbro+Victreebel+Moltres <:
  235. [00:05:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  236. - Psychic
  237. - Seismic Toss
  238. - Thunder Wave
  239. - Recover
  240.  
  241. Jolteon (M) @ (No Item)
  242. - Pin Missile
  243. - Thunderbolt
  244. - Thunder Wave
  245. - Double Kick
  246.  
  247. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  248. - Sleep Powder
  249. - Hyper Beam
  250. - Psychic
  251. - Explosion
  252.  
  253. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  254. - Body Slam
  255. - Blizzard
  256. - Earthquake
  257. - Hyper Beam
  258.  
  259. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  260. - Soft-Boiled
  261. - Thunder Wave
  262. - Ice Beam
  263. - Thunderbolt
  264.  
  265. Zapdos @ (No Item)
  266. - Drill Peck
  267. - Thunderbolt
  268. - Thunder Wave
  269. - Light Screen
  270. [00:05:46] George S. [Disaster Area]: chatting about this sorta stuff with stath. Just told him about me double electricing vs during summer in powc
  271. [00:13:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: team 3
  272. [00:13:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  273. - Psychic
  274. - Seismic Toss
  275. - Thunder Wave
  276. - Recover
  277.  
  278. Venusaur (M) @ (No Item)
  279. - Swords Dance
  280. - Hyper Beam
  281. - Sleep Powder
  282. - Razor Leaf
  283.  
  284. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  285. - Amnesia
  286. - Rest
  287. - Thunder Wave
  288. - Psychic
  289.  
  290. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  291. - Soft-Boiled
  292. - Thunder Wave
  293. - Reflect
  294. - Seismic Toss
  295.  
  296. Snorlax (M) @ (No Item)
  297. - Body Slam
  298. - Earthquake
  299. - Hyper Beam
  300. - Self-Destruct
  301.  
  302. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  303. - Body Slam
  304. - Blizzard
  305. - Earthquake
  306. - Hyper Beam
  307. [00:13:33] George S. [Disaster Area]: venusaur <:
  308. [00:13:52] George S. [Disaster Area]: basically a slightly faster victreebel [outspeed cloy rather than tie]
  309.  
  310. ----------
  311. Section 4
  312. ----------
  313.  
  314. [28/07/2015 22:09:06] *** George S. [Disaster Area] has shared contact details with LOUKIANOS. ***
  315. [28/07/2015 23:01:12] LOUKIANOS: you whats good piex
  316. [28/07/2015 23:01:20] LOUKIANOS: ive heard you are helping east again and im trying to get into rby
  317. [28/07/2015 23:01:29] George S. [Disaster Area]: building the counterstyles for the finals of WCOP
  318. [28/07/2015 23:01:31] LOUKIANOS: so id love to
  319. [28/07/2015 23:01:36] LOUKIANOS: watch you do it
  320. [28/07/2015 23:01:36] George S. [Disaster Area]: + I'm watching max vs McM
  321. [28/07/2015 23:01:39] LOUKIANOS: as a learning experience
  322. [28/07/2015 23:01:42] LOUKIANOS: if you are ok w/ that
  323. [28/07/2015 23:01:44] George S. [Disaster Area]: cool cool
  324. [28/07/2015 23:01:49] George S. [Disaster Area]: I'll post my thoughts here then
  325. [28/07/2015 23:01:51] LOUKIANOS: i mean not right now, whenever you are doing it
  326. [28/07/2015 23:01:55] LOUKIANOS: sweet
  327. [28/07/2015 23:01:56] LOUKIANOS: :D
  328. [28/07/2015 23:02:02] George S. [Disaster Area]: first team was pretty straightforward, whoever does the scouting reports did a great job
  329. [28/07/2015 23:02:08] LOUKIANOS: that was me
  330. [28/07/2015 23:02:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: ok I've done the first team and am brainstorming the second atm
  331. [28/07/2015 23:02:16] George S. [Disaster Area]: gj then ;D
  332. [28/07/2015 23:02:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: Starmie @ (No Item)
  333. - Recover
  334. - Blizzard
  335. - Thunder Wave
  336. - Hydro Pump
  337.  
  338. Rhydon (M) @ (No Item)
  339. - Earthquake
  340. - Rock Slide
  341. - Body Slam
  342. - Substitute
  343.  
  344. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  345. - Amnesia
  346. - Rest
  347. - Thunder Wave
  348. - Psychic
  349.  
  350. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  351. - Soft-Boiled
  352. - Thunder Wave
  353. - Reflect
  354. - Seismic Toss
  355.  
  356. Tauros (M) @ (No Item)
  357. - Body Slam
  358. - Hyper Beam
  359. - Earthquake
  360. - Blizzard
  361.  
  362. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  363. - Sleep Powder
  364. - Mega Drain
  365. - Psychic
  366. - Explosion
  367. [28/07/2015 23:02:37] LOUKIANOS: oh nice
  368. [28/07/2015 23:02:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: alternative preference version has tbolt>hpump + stun spore>MD on egg
  369. [28/07/2015 23:02:40] LOUKIANOS: the 1 team i brainstormed
  370. [28/07/2015 23:02:42] LOUKIANOS: also had starmie lead
  371. [28/07/2015 23:03:00] George S. [Disaster Area]: yah the main reason that
  372. [28/07/2015 23:03:05] George S. [Disaster Area]: bro is such a good call tho
  373. [28/07/2015 23:03:08] LOUKIANOS: i also thought about psychic starmie in the lead
  374. [28/07/2015 23:03:09] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's the single best mon
  375. [28/07/2015 23:03:14] George S. [Disaster Area]: to break through reflect zam
  376. [28/07/2015 23:03:18] LOUKIANOS: because he sometimes likes gengar
  377. [28/07/2015 23:03:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: yah standard lead is like psychic/tbolt+blizzard
  378. [28/07/2015 23:03:32] LOUKIANOS: and wave / psychic beats
  379. [28/07/2015 23:03:33] LOUKIANOS: most of his leads
  380. [28/07/2015 23:03:38] LOUKIANOS: if u have blizzard
  381. [28/07/2015 23:03:38] George S. [Disaster Area]: yah but no one stays in with gar
  382. [28/07/2015 23:03:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: p much
  383. [28/07/2015 23:03:43] LOUKIANOS: ah
  384. [28/07/2015 23:03:43] George S. [Disaster Area]: or it's very rare
  385. [28/07/2015 23:03:44] LOUKIANOS: true
  386. [28/07/2015 23:03:45] George S. [Disaster Area]: I mean u have
  387. [28/07/2015 23:03:50] George S. [Disaster Area]: poor odds of winning with gar
  388. [28/07/2015 23:03:52] George S. [Disaster Area]: in that MU
  389. [28/07/2015 23:03:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's usually not worth trying for
  390. [28/07/2015 23:04:00] LOUKIANOS: d'oh
  391. [28/07/2015 23:04:04] LOUKIANOS: it doesn’t have shadow ball
  392. [28/07/2015 23:04:06] George S. [Disaster Area]: u need to crit or para with tbolt
  393. [28/07/2015 23:04:08] LOUKIANOS: so it doesn’t matter that u can’t ohko it
  394. [28/07/2015 23:04:11] LOUKIANOS: im dumb
  395. [28/07/2015 23:04:15] George S. [Disaster Area]: lol
  396. [28/07/2015 23:04:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: just remember ghost/bug/fighting don't matter
  397. [28/07/2015 23:04:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: lol
  398. [28/07/2015 23:04:38] LOUKIANOS: yeah lol
  399. [28/07/2015 23:04:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: psychic is immune to ghost anyway
  400. [28/07/2015 23:04:43] George S. [Disaster Area]: in gen 1
  401. [28/07/2015 23:04:45] George S. [Disaster Area]: .RBY
  402. [28/07/2015 23:04:52] LOUKIANOS: huh
  403. [28/07/2015 23:04:57] LOUKIANOS: lmao
  404. [28/07/2015 23:04:59] LOUKIANOS: thats insane
  405. [28/07/2015 23:05:02] George S. [Disaster Area]: lol
  406. [28/07/2015 23:05:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: yeah
  407. [28/07/2015 23:05:13] George S. [Disaster Area]: kinda funny tho
  408. [28/07/2015 23:05:25] George S. [Disaster Area]: otherwise I might consider lick haunter in UU..
  409. [28/07/2015 23:05:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: xd
  410. [28/07/2015 23:05:34] George S. [Disaster Area]: but ye anyway
  411. [28/07/2015 23:05:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: that's team 1 lemme see what I said to BKC about it
  412. [28/07/2015 23:05:42] LOUKIANOS: are there any ghost moves other than lick and night shade
  413. [28/07/2015 23:05:55] George S. [Disaster Area]: not iirc
  414. [28/07/2015 23:06:25] George S. [Disaster Area]: o
  415. [28/07/2015 23:06:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: confuse ray
  416. [28/07/2015 23:06:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: ;D
  417. [28/07/2015 23:06:37] LOUKIANOS: lol..
  418. [28/07/2015 23:06:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: good move but overrated by golden gyarados/underrated by pretty much everyone else
  419. [28/07/2015 23:06:56] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's certainly not a move to never use
  420. [28/07/2015 23:07:03] LOUKIANOS: i saw bedschibaer using it
  421. [28/07/2015 23:07:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: yah it was standard on lapras in old meta
  422. [28/07/2015 23:07:33] George S. [Disaster Area]: ggyara was infamous for running cray>explosion on his gar in the whole of 2014 p much
  423. [28/07/2015 23:07:38] George S. [Disaster Area]: or at least the latter ~6 months of it
  424. [28/07/2015 23:07:52] George S. [Disaster Area]: he didn't have the time to change stuff up tho
  425. [28/07/2015 23:08:08] LOUKIANOS: i c
  426. [28/07/2015 23:08:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: ok the next really obvious exploit of
  427. [28/07/2015 23:08:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: FAFTUS or w/e he was called
  428. [28/07/2015 23:08:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: FAFUS
  429. [28/07/2015 23:08:37] George S. [Disaster Area]: victreebel/venusaur
  430. [28/07/2015 23:08:43] LOUKIANOS: razor leaf
  431. [28/07/2015 23:08:44] George S. [Disaster Area]: so many slowbros ;)
  432. [28/07/2015 23:08:47] LOUKIANOS: where is your god now, slowbro
  433. [28/07/2015 23:09:09] George S. [Disaster Area]: i'm tempted to run like fire/water/grass just cos I love moltres i'm just mulling that over rn
  434. [28/07/2015 23:09:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: moltres is cool. Beats 3/4 of the big 4 straight up and with fire spin and hyper beam and a good attack stat it's just plain solid
  435. [28/07/2015 23:10:05] George S. [Disaster Area]: OOH it could be a fun way to exploit reflect lax maybe
  436. [28/07/2015 23:10:33] LOUKIANOS: he doesn’t like rock types
  437. [28/07/2015 23:10:40] LOUKIANOS: only used 2 in 8 games
  438. [28/07/2015 23:10:51] George S. [Disaster Area]: that's about normal really
  439. [28/07/2015 23:10:55] LOUKIANOS: but he used slowbro whenever he didn’t use a rock if i remember correctly
  440. [28/07/2015 23:11:18] George S. [Disaster Area]: not far off
  441. [28/07/2015 23:11:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: tobes has run a lot of cloyster
  442. [28/07/2015 23:11:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: thoughts on what fafus will bring
  443. [28/07/2015 23:11:31] LOUKIANOS: indeed
  444. [28/07/2015 23:11:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: with that knowledge in hand?
  445. [28/07/2015 23:11:44] LOUKIANOS: i guess non-lead starmie
  446. [28/07/2015 23:11:49] LOUKIANOS: and other wave mons
  447. [28/07/2015 23:11:51] LOUKIANOS: his standard stuff
  448. [28/07/2015 23:11:53] LOUKIANOS: alakazam
  449. [28/07/2015 23:11:56] LOUKIANOS: slowbro
  450. [28/07/2015 23:12:01] LOUKIANOS: i think that fares ok vs cloyster
  451. [28/07/2015 23:12:13] George S. [Disaster Area]: starmie's the biggest answer ye
  452. [28/07/2015 23:12:18] LOUKIANOS: once?
  453. [28/07/2015 23:12:19] LOUKIANOS: i think he used that
  454. [28/07/2015 23:12:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: maybe electrics as an aggressive approach
  455. [28/07/2015 23:12:27] LOUKIANOS: over zam as a fast psychic in the back
  456. [28/07/2015 23:12:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: he used it once as a lead too
  457. [28/07/2015 23:13:03] LOUKIANOS: yeah
  458. [28/07/2015 23:13:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: not much egg use
  459. [28/07/2015 23:13:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: rhydon+slowbro is so perfect lol
  460. [28/07/2015 23:13:43] LOUKIANOS: i thought he used it a decent amount
  461. [28/07/2015 23:13:49] LOUKIANOS: in the earlier rounds
  462. [28/07/2015 23:13:54] George S. [Disaster Area]: 3/8 nonlead + 1 lead
  463. [28/07/2015 23:13:59] LOUKIANOS: is that not a lot
  464. [28/07/2015 23:14:01] LOUKIANOS: for rby
  465. [28/07/2015 23:14:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: most people will use it at least 6/8 imo
  466. [28/07/2015 23:14:02] LOUKIANOS: WAIT
  467. [28/07/2015 23:14:05] LOUKIANOS: is egg the
  468. [28/07/2015 23:14:07] LOUKIANOS: 4th
  469. [28/07/2015 23:14:09] LOUKIANOS: of the big 4
  470. [28/07/2015 23:14:10] George S. [Disaster Area]: ye
  471. [28/07/2015 23:14:11] LOUKIANOS: ah
  472. [28/07/2015 23:14:14] LOUKIANOS: lol
  473. [28/07/2015 23:14:17] LOUKIANOS: no wonder i was seeing it
  474. [28/07/2015 23:14:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: I don't use it too much but I'm exception not the rule
  475. [28/07/2015 23:14:25] LOUKIANOS: i c
  476. [28/07/2015 23:14:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: just cos it's easy to wall as a sleeper
  477. [28/07/2015 23:14:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: is the main reason I don't use it much
  478. [28/07/2015 23:15:03] George S. [Disaster Area]: + it's inconsistent outside of damage and it doesn't take tauros on as wel as like
  479. [28/07/2015 23:15:06 | Edited 23:15:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: lapras slowbro starmie etc
  480. [28/07/2015 23:15:18] George S. [Disaster Area]: and rocks are less relevant than b4
  481. [28/07/2015 23:15:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: u can get away with dropping them#
  482. [28/07/2015 23:16:21] LOUKIANOS: i see
  483. [28/07/2015 23:16:36] LOUKIANOS: what do you think of FAFUS’s penchant for zapdos
  484. [28/07/2015 23:16:50] George S. [Disaster Area]: guess he's keeping up with new meta pretty well and
  485. [28/07/2015 23:16:54] George S. [Disaster Area]: zapdos is pretty good
  486. [28/07/2015 23:16:59] George S. [Disaster Area]: but ye bringing rhydon around is fun
  487. [28/07/2015 23:20:02] LOUKIANOS: i thought about jolteon
  488. [28/07/2015 23:20:06] LOUKIANOS: as a lategame mon
  489. [28/07/2015 23:20:14] LOUKIANOS: but idk if jolteon is actually good
  490. [28/07/2015 23:20:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: jolteon is good
  491. [28/07/2015 23:20:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: it can work in all diff ways
  492. [28/07/2015 23:20:36] George S. [Disaster Area]: hmm
  493. [28/07/2015 23:20:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: jolt vs zap.. lategame
  494. [28/07/2015 23:20:44] George S. [Disaster Area]: maybe jolt's advantage vs zap
  495. [28/07/2015 23:20:46] LOUKIANOS: isn’t that favorable
  496. [28/07/2015 23:20:47] George S. [Disaster Area]: is kinda cool actually
  497. [28/07/2015 23:20:48] LOUKIANOS: for jolt
  498. [28/07/2015 23:20:50] LOUKIANOS: yeah
  499. [28/07/2015 23:21:09] LOUKIANOS: i guess zam jolt is in zam’s favor probably
  500. [28/07/2015 23:21:16] LOUKIANOS: slowbro jolt is in jolt’s favor tho i’d imagine
  501. [28/07/2015 23:21:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: idk
  502. [28/07/2015 23:21:25] George S. [Disaster Area]: bro jolt ye it's pro jolt prolly
  503. [28/07/2015 23:21:33] George S. [Disaster Area]: zam dislikes crit tbolt and being outsped tbh
  504. [28/07/2015 23:21:38] LOUKIANOS: yeah
  505. [28/07/2015 23:21:42] LOUKIANOS: thats what i was thinking
  506. [28/07/2015 23:21:43] George S. [Disaster Area]: it doesn't really have 'bad' matchups outside of rocks
  507. [28/07/2015 23:21:48] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's just that the matchups it wins
  508. [28/07/2015 23:21:54] George S. [Disaster Area]: it doesn't win by an exceptional margin
  509. [28/07/2015 23:21:55] LOUKIANOS: it has to die to win them
  510. [28/07/2015 23:21:56] LOUKIANOS: yeah
  511. [28/07/2015 23:21:59] LOUKIANOS: or be crippled rather
  512. [28/07/2015 23:22:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: not quite
  513. [28/07/2015 23:22:05] George S. [Disaster Area]: it could be cool lategame tho
  514. [28/07/2015 23:22:11] LOUKIANOS: hmm
  515. [28/07/2015 23:22:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: it can be played so many ways lol
  516. [28/07/2015 23:22:15] LOUKIANOS: i also thought about amnesia lax
  517. [28/07/2015 23:22:22] LOUKIANOS: plus some solid tauros answers
  518. [28/07/2015 23:22:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: cloyster lol
  519. [28/07/2015 23:22:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: idk maybe
  520. [28/07/2015 23:22:38] George S. [Disaster Area]: I think the
  521. [28/07/2015 23:22:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: bro+rock team
  522. [28/07/2015 23:22:42] George S. [Disaster Area]: a team with jolt
  523. [28/07/2015 23:22:45] George S. [Disaster Area]: and a team with vic or venu
  524. [28/07/2015 23:22:47] George S. [Disaster Area]: is enough
  525. [28/07/2015 23:22:53] LOUKIANOS: ok fair enough
  526. [28/07/2015 23:23:03] LOUKIANOS: i liked amnesia lax because lategame
  527. [28/07/2015 23:23:21] LOUKIANOS: it wins vs zam and matches well against slowbro
  528. [28/07/2015 23:23:27] LOUKIANOS: and zapdos too
  529. [28/07/2015 23:51:05] LOUKIANOS: that was an interesting series
  530. [28/07/2015 23:51:13] George S. [Disaster Area]: indeed
  531. [28/07/2015 23:51:24] George S. [Disaster Area]: max got a 3-2 and played like a 5-0
  532. [28/07/2015 23:51:25] George S. [Disaster Area]: afaik
  533. [28/07/2015 23:51:35] LOUKIANOS: indeed
  534. [28/07/2015 23:51:50] George S. [Disaster Area]: RBY was surprisingly clean. I'm used to calling RBY games clean with more 'hax' than that had tbh
  535. [28/07/2015 23:55:00] LOUKIANOS: indeed
  536. [00:03:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: thoughts on this
  537. [00:03:12] George S. [Disaster Area]: Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  538. - Psychic
  539. - Seismic Toss
  540. - Thunder Wave
  541. - Recover
  542.  
  543. Jolteon (M) @ (No Item)
  544. - Pin Missile
  545. - Thunderbolt
  546. - Thunder Wave
  547. - Double Kick
  548.  
  549. Exeggutor (F) @ (No Item)
  550. - Sleep Powder
  551. - Hyper Beam
  552. - Psychic
  553. - Explosion
  554.  
  555. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  556. - Body Slam
  557. - Blizzard
  558. - Earthquake
  559. - Hyper Beam
  560.  
  561. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  562. - Soft-Boiled
  563. - Thunder Wave
  564. - Ice Beam
  565. - Thunderbolt
  566.  
  567. Zapdos @ (No Item)
  568. - Drill Peck
  569. - Thunderbolt
  570. - Thunder Wave
  571. - Light Screen
  572. [00:03:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: I went double electric dropping lax realising he doesn't run chansey that often. Like also only like 50% of the time
  573. [00:03:49] George S. [Disaster Area]: so using zapdos to try early game and jolt late, or the reverse
  574. [00:03:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: seemed like a pretty good idea
  575. [00:04:10] LOUKIANOS: oooooh
  576. [00:04:11] LOUKIANOS: i like that
  577. [00:04:16] George S. [Disaster Area]: I mean double electric is like
  578. [00:04:24] George S. [Disaster Area]: the classic way of counterstyling someone I guess
  579. [00:04:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's like so obvious it's usually the first thing to come to mind
  580. [00:04:44] George S. [Disaster Area]: especially since it's so straightforward to pull off in the teambuilder
  581. [00:04:51] George S. [Disaster Area]: like in POWC the only counterstyle I rly did was
  582. [00:04:53 | Edited 00:04:56] George S. [Disaster Area]: vs during summer
  583. [00:04:59] George S. [Disaster Area]: went thru 24 logs
  584. [00:05:05] George S. [Disaster Area]: counted rhydon/golem/jolt use
  585. [00:05:09] George S. [Disaster Area]: 2 golem was all
  586. [00:05:14] George S. [Disaster Area]: so I went double electric and won the match
  587. [00:07:34] LOUKIANOS: easy peasy
  588. [00:07:43] George S. [Disaster Area]: yeah
  589. [00:07:53] George S. [Disaster Area]: the electric/rock dynamic is like just
  590. [00:08:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: the most straightforward thing for a new player to pick up on
  591. [00:08:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: doesn't stop it being cool even when you're experienced tho! It's a good trick just you must use it sparingly :)
  592. [00:10:01] LOUKIANOS: righto
  593. [00:10:07] LOUKIANOS: well i don’t think he has used any
  594. [00:11:54] George S. [Disaster Area]: Alakazam (M) @ (No Item)
  595. - Psychic
  596. - Seismic Toss
  597. - Thunder Wave
  598. - Recover
  599.  
  600. Venusaur (M) @ (No Item)
  601. - Swords Dance
  602. - Hyper Beam
  603. - Sleep Powder
  604. - Razor Leaf
  605.  
  606. Slowbro (M) @ (No Item)
  607. - Amnesia
  608. - Rest
  609. - Thunder Wave
  610. - Psychic
  611.  
  612. Chansey (F) @ (No Item)
  613. - Soft-Boiled
  614. - Thunder Wave
  615. - Reflect
  616. - Seismic Toss
  617.  
  618. Snorlax (M) @ (No Item)
  619. - Body Slam
  620. - Earthquake
  621. - Hyper Beam
  622. - Self-Destruct
  623.  
  624. Koopacow (Tauros) (M) @ (No Item)
  625. - Body Slam
  626. - Blizzard
  627. - Earthquake
  628. - Hyper Beam
  629. [00:11:56] George S. [Disaster Area]: team 3
  630. [00:12:16] George S. [Disaster Area]: Venu>Vic for the extra defense and most importantly the speed means it outspeeds rather than ties with cloyster
  631. [00:12:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: with that basically replacing egg and throwing in a slowbro it's pretty stnadard
  632. [00:12:45] George S. [Disaster Area]: reflect chansey to take on zapdos better and provide extra lax backup
  633. [00:12:52] George S. [Disaster Area]: also lets it pressure jynx and zam quickly
  634. [00:13:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's p much a standard venu squad.. but I've never used venu lol. Then again I've used a v similar victreebel a few times
  635. [00:13:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: it should work nicely
  636. [00:13:49] LOUKIANOS: thats
  637. [00:13:51] LOUKIANOS: out there
  638. [00:13:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: nah not especially
  639. [00:14:01] LOUKIANOS: he likes psychics tho
  640. [00:14:06] LOUKIANOS: im worried venusaur is
  641. [00:14:07] LOUKIANOS: gimmicky
  642. [00:14:12] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's not rly
  643. [00:14:14] George S. [Disaster Area]: he uses so much
  644. [00:14:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: bro
  645. [00:14:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: it's fine
  646. [00:14:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: bslam>HB could work
  647. [00:14:37] LOUKIANOS: he only used it twice
  648. [00:14:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: if he used more chans I'd maybe go vic>venu for the OHKO at +2
  649. [00:14:43] LOUKIANOS: unless im counting wrong
  650. [00:14:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: o
  651. [00:15:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: 2 rocks too tho
  652. [00:15:04] George S. [Disaster Area]: and starmie 2 times
  653. [00:15:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: eh it ain't perfect perhaps but it should work nicely
  654. [00:15:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: even if he doesn't bring that venu works nice vs the psychics with Par support
  655. [00:16:12] George S. [Disaster Area]: gar is probably the most problematic of its matchups but owel
  656. [00:16:20] George S. [Disaster Area]: it has the tools to play around it
  657. [00:16:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: EQ lax/tauros, zam, psychic bro, chansey
  658. [00:18:52] LOUKIANOS: it looks cool
  659. [00:19:12] LOUKIANOS: man rbys great
  660. [00:19:17] LOUKIANOS: im having a blast learning it
  661. [00:19:18] George S. [Disaster Area]: aite I'm making a paste of all my convos with u/bkc, the scouting reports, + the teams
  662. [00:19:31] LOUKIANOS: like watching tobes’s games
  663. [00:19:37] George S. [Disaster Area]: ye it's such fun.. and u can easily become soldi at it quickly but
  664. [00:19:40] LOUKIANOS: and talking with u here
  665. [00:19:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: takes a while to rly master
  666. [00:19:53] George S. [Disaster Area]: then again Alexander mastered it very quickly..
  667. [00:20:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: exception not the rule tho I guess
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