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[6:00 PM] Attendant: ambassador is like the stock now
[6:00 PM] Attendant: except for ambassador to be better a 100% of the time than the stock you have to be a literal human god
[6:00 PM] Kagerou: I think it's fine tbh
[6:00 PM] Attendant: it isn't dude
[6:00 PM] Kagerou: no gun is better 100% of the time than the others
[6:00 PM] Attendant: are you serious
[6:00 PM] Kagerou: I am serious
[6:00 PM] Attendant: ok you're retarded i think
[6:01 PM] Kagerou: Sure
[6:01 PM] Attendant: like the whole downside of the ambassador
[6:01 PM] Attendant: was that people would try to shoot for the head when people would die from a body anyway
[6:01 PM] Attendant: people who aren't good at using it still use it when they can just use the stock and literally destroy a medic in 3 shots
[6:02 PM] Kagerou: At close range it's absolutely fine though
[6:02 PM] Attendant: stock is and always was the better option than the ambassador
[6:02 PM] Kagerou: which is the range you should be aiming for
[6:02 PM] Kagerou: >always was
[6:02 PM] Kagerou: clearly fucking not
[6:02 PM] Attendant: ok
[6:02 PM] Attendant: you're fighting a scout
[6:02 PM] Attendant: who isn't a retard
[6:02 PM] Attendant: so he knows how to dodge the headshots
[6:03 PM] Attendant: would you rather fight him with an ambassador or the stock
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: I'd fucking not 1v1 a scout and cloak away
[6:03 PM] Attendant: milk
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: still would run away
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: there's no use in 1v1ing a scout
[6:03 PM] Attendant: who would NOT use milk on scout in hl
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: and I can still deal damage with the amby
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: while running away
[6:03 PM] Kagerou: killing the scout isn't my job
[6:04 PM] Attendant: isn't my job, not going to do it
[6:04 PM] Attendant: interesting logic
[6:04 PM] Kagerou: Just like killing the pyro isn't my job, yeah
[6:04 PM] Kagerou: I shouldn't have to do it
[6:04 PM] Kagerou: a spy is supposed to go for good picks instead of the sloppy seconds like scout
[6:04 PM] Kagerou: and shouldn't be 1v1ing anyone
[6:05 PM] Attendant: so you'd rather not fight the scout and let him go twoshot a med instead of dying while fighting
[6:05 PM] Kagerou: the amby can be used as a surprise weapon as in it can confirm kills really easily at medium-close range
[6:05 PM] Kagerou: I'd call out the scout so the med doesn't get 2shot
[6:05 PM] Kagerou: and stays with a demo/solly
[6:05 PM] Attendant: ah because demo can protect the med from the scout
[6:05 PM] Kagerou: Scout's not going to go head-to-head with any projectile-class combo
[6:05 PM] Attendant: with a pretrap maybe
[6:05 PM] Kagerou: he's going to run away
[6:06 PM] Attendant: do you know what milk does buddy
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: but he's already used it on me
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: apparently
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: in this situation you put me in
[6:06 PM] Attendant: you're literally rendered undefeatable in any 1v1
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: it's a 2v1 essentially
[6:06 PM] Attendant: no because you ran away
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: yeah but you said he used milk on me
[6:06 PM] Kagerou: and I still ran away
[6:06 PM] Attendant: you chose not to take the fight so you fucked off
[6:07 PM] Attendant: like you would die if the scout would go after you but he didn't because he didn't use milk
[6:07 PM] Kagerou: not to mention it's not even technically my fault that the scout could kill the medic if I called the scout out and ran away instead of dying needlessly
[6:07 PM] Attendant: if he did use milk you're dead regardless
[6:07 PM] Kagerou: it would be my teams for not being smart enough to protect the med
[6:07 PM] Attendant: ok enough
[6:07 PM] Kagerou: spy's not designed for 1v1's with the revolvers imo
[6:07 PM] Attendant: you're clearly baiting me so don't bother anymore
[6:07 PM] Kagerou: What
[6:08 PM] Kagerou: I'm not
[6:08 PM] Kagerou: How much experience do you have in hl anyway, besides lobbies?
[6:08 PM] Attendant: you're literally saying the ambassador is good
[6:08 PM] Attendant: when it's clearly the worst revolver
[6:08 PM] Kagerou: If you use it in a certain way yeah
[6:08 PM] Attendant: worse than the enforcer which is fucking garbage
[6:09 PM] Kagerou: following the crowd isn't a good way of forming your own opinion when people don't even bother to think what it's used for now
[6:09 PM] Attendant: i played in div4 hl teams before i got league banned for ""cheating""
[6:09 PM] Attendant: so i made a new account and played dota instead
[6:09 PM] Attendant: look at this rebel
[6:09 PM] Attendant: going against the crowd
[6:09 PM] Kagerou: I'm not attacking you or anything
[6:09 PM] Kagerou: I'm literally too tired for that
[6:10 PM] Attendant: you ARE attacking me
[6:10 PM] Kagerou: Sorry if it comes across that way
[6:10 PM] Attendant: you're saying the weapon that i've practiced with for 6 years is better in your opinion
[6:10 PM] Attendant: because you think you know better than me
[6:10 PM] Kagerou: Uh, no, that last part is something you decided on your own
[6:10 PM] Attendant: i spent more than half a decade on this weapon i think i know what im talking about
[6:11 PM] Kagerou: I love this so much
[6:11 PM] Kagerou: absolutely love it
[6:12 PM] Attendant: ok explain to me
[6:12 PM] Attendant: why is pre-nerf ambassador better than the stock
[6:14 PM] Kagerou: Pre-nerf? The sniping capabilities, duh. It was used a lot in comp HL for that good reason, and being able to deal 102 damage across the map was better than risking death by going in for like 2 50 damage shots
[6:14 PM] Kagerou: And I never said it was better, I said it was fine
[6:14 PM] Attendant: you're literally standing in a single spot to snipe
[6:14 PM] Attendant: you're under threat of anything that kills a sniper because you ARE a sniper
[6:15 PM] Kagerou: Yeah but you also have the option to change how you play at will since you have a knife and cloak
[6:15 PM] Kagerou: having the extra damage output was really good
[6:15 PM] Attendant: THEORETICAL damage ouput
[6:16 PM] Kagerou: It's good in close combat as well since it does 102
[6:16 PM] Kagerou: Well not really theoretical if it's pre-nerf, which had 102 as a standard
[6:16 PM] Attendant: have you ever actually sniped with ambassador
[6:16 PM] Attendant: it doesn't sound like you did
[6:16 PM] Kagerou: I wouldn't bother discussing this with you if I didn't
[6:17 PM] Attendant: why are you implying that ambassador has a sniper scope and everything
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: I'm not
[6:17 PM] Attendant: it wasn't easy to snipe across the map like you're implying
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: you're interpreting it like that
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: Of course it wasn't easy, but the ability was still there
[6:17 PM] Attendant: you want me to interpret it like that by the way you're putting things
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: No, that's bullshit mate
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: That's forcing your own views on me
[6:17 PM] Attendant: that's like saying demoman is broken because he can deal 1200 damage in 12 projectiles
[6:17 PM] Kagerou: that's not cool whatsoever
[6:18 PM] Attendant: he CAN
[6:18 PM] Attendant: but he isn't going to
[6:18 PM] Kagerou: And as I said, it's still viable in close-range because of said damage output
[6:18 PM] Kagerou: It's very much up to how you play with it
[6:18 PM] Kagerou: Just like it is now
[6:18 PM] Attendant: but it isn't fucking made for that don't you understand
[6:19 PM] Attendant: you literally said yourself that stock is better close range
[6:19 PM] Attendant: like the only thing that ambassador does better than the stock is it deals more damage in a single shot which might be clutch
[6:19 PM] Attendant: but that's the only thing
[6:19 PM] Attendant: stock does more dps, is easier to pull off, and overall more reliable (less chance of head hitboxes screwing around and non-regs are less likely to happen)
[6:20 PM] Kagerou: Eh
[6:20 PM] Kagerou: That's not really a convincing argument for me
[6:20 PM] Kagerou: I'll stay by my opinion
[6:20 PM] Attendant: and why even use the stock if you can use the "I can't aim, therefore I deserve more cloak" gun
[6:21 PM] Attendant: your arguments aren't convincing at all
[6:21 PM] Kagerou: I'm not trying to convince you
[6:21 PM] Attendant: it's like your perception is skewed or something
[6:22 PM] Kagerou: I'm just stating my opinion and why I think about it
[6:22 PM] Kagerou: I've no intention of getting you on my side on this
[6:22 PM] Kagerou: I already know I won't
[6:22 PM] Attendant: jesus fuck what did i get myself into
[6:22 PM] Attendant: i literally have only demented people in my friends list
[6:22 PM] Kagerou: Okay
[6:25 PM] Attendant: have you ever actually gunspied
[6:25 PM] Attendant: like have the gun out all the time never go for backstabs i am a retard spy
[6:26 PM] Attendant: actually you know what
[6:26 PM] Attendant: if you want to hear someone else even more qualified to speak about ambassador
[6:26 PM] Attendant: go talk to carbon
[6:26 PM] Kagerou: I literally don't care
[6:26 PM] Attendant: then why even speak to me at all
[6:27 PM] Kagerou: This is a topic you care very much about and I'm not going to cause more toxicity by talking about it
[6:27 PM] Attendant: why respond
[6:27 PM] Attendant: no no go ahead
[6:27 PM] Attendant: i'm very interested in what you have to say
[6:27 PM] Kagerou: No
[6:27 PM] Kagerou: I won't
[6:27 PM] Attendant: or go talk to carbon rather
[6:27 PM] Attendant: he used to be a prem gunspy
[6:27 PM] Kagerou: I'm not interested in carbon or gunspy
[6:27 PM] Kagerou: You're reacting very strongly towards my opinion so I won't talk about it any further
[6:28 PM] Attendant: why not
[6:28 PM] Attendant: you keep talking about your opinion yet you haven't actually made any points that made any sense to me
[6:28 PM] Kagerou: Then I'm not going to bother.
[6:29 PM] Attendant: cool
[6:29 PM] Attendant: great talk
[6:29 PM] Attendant: like talking to a wall