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  1. the final date for entry for uh the api for for uh if you've created something for api is um august 19th but it happens in november a month ago i've been screaming this um i know who it is i know exactly who's involved i know they're picking winners and losers and it's ridic and it's making me sick i knew it a year ago but it sounds like you have to be like on the inside of the contest for that right no you have to have on the inside basically someone on twitter who they've taken off the api team um or they're not even allowed in spaces anymore when they hold spaces and then the person who when i brought it up last month in july magically was on vacation in august i wonder why that was um i mean maybe it was a vacation i guess it's august i don't know but it was in like the whole thing was ridiculous it was like i i i know who who's who's gonna win i already i can tell you right now is going to win this conference i'm sorry for not paying attention to the what you were saying earlier last month or whatever but um
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  3. i'm telling you that twitter is compromised i believe you i'm just asking for like some details on how they came to the thing i can i can force feed you what news shows up in your feed no matter what that i just was asking is there like details on how they were doing it but yeah i can look yeah articles well just just look at your dm look at your dm okay i wasn't trying to be hostile or i would just want to oh no i'm just pissed i'm just pissed off i i i went to the ceo i'm i'm done i'm done with this [ __ ] well i mean to think that you know there's a correction in some way they're doing it to account for 10 million people who have reach and they're putting out stuff that means like is absolute absolute garbage they've spread like the general disinformation right and they've been affected american elections several times now and you know i mean they're awful yeah i mean yeah i mean and there were twitter there it's on my timeline they did a poll um who do you trust the most what social media uh do you trust most for um news twitter was like 900 received 90 yep but yeah who else would it be like for breaking news there's only one place um and i'm gonna tell you right now who i i oh i'm not gonna say the name but alberto knows who i think it is but he's like not like a will like he's unwillingly involved in it it's
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  5. the whole thing is messed up and this isn't an ss7 thing purposely left open to like get information out just in case or like read people's news feeds whatever this is this is this is way beyond that this is like literally changing the news and countries this is major so um people the people who control twitter the narrative like that is the big prize because like yeah there's a lot right that there's a lot of effect you can have like power tons of power in that so yeah it makes sense that people would be going for it right exactly i blame capitalism alberto
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  7. no this is not capitalism this is actual dictatorship uh i believe dictators for this one power vacuum or you know trying to control them at the top of the mountain or where i blame i am danielle from uh a twitter api i blame a number of he's not even allowed to host the api uh twitter spaces anymore because he did it without permission last year or two years whenever they started i blame um who else
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  9. there there's a lot of people but i if i went down the list i'd probably be the platform so the ceo can decide what he wants to do i mean we're going to web through anyway soon i mean but the question is like
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  11. what effect will happen before we go to web of three
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  13. like like how much will they be able like will a certain entities be able to um change before i mean like and when you think yeah that's just kind of that's another they can mean a lot of things so i mean right that replaces you know in a decentralized way maybe hopefully uh what twitter does but yeah how that is implemented would it really doesn't matter it really does matter
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  15. and i was like i don't know
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  17. choosing i mean okay you have uh it's web 3.0 will happen overnight the solutions won't be created tomorrow uh but at the end if you have the solutions there anyway uh what people chooses the perception of people what they're going to select is not the best thing is what they think is the coolest thing to use so web 3.0 doesn't mean the end of certain things like things that are bad or wrong uh just because people might perceive no this is the cool thing i love this everybody used tik tok
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  19. doesn't matter anything else that's the thing yeah there are um privacy focused um twitter alternatives right now that nobody's using because everybody's on twitter and then don't they haven't there's no impetus to move right so we could move over to a place that would protect and sense not censor and do these things like adam's talking about them yeah but people care about that people are actually uh aware of and what what it means i mean do they care do they understand what it means and do
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  21. i'm going to this place because there's no way i'm staying here or oh yeah why would that move i mean something yeah it's gonna get worse like the reason that everybody left myspace was um you know the software the ui sector you know there's got to be a reason uh you know a better product actually does come around you know it's not about better it's not about being better but being better is not the the thing that is the winner and
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  23. an element that defines the winner or what people they whatever it is doesn't mind by other factors that
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  25. if you can manipulate people the winner will be but defined by those people that are being manipulated
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  27. um november happens to be midterm elections in the united states so um that's a problem because
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  29. if this isn't patched which it's not um yet
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  31. so
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  33. what exactly can they do with it there was an ai there was basically an ai re going through all of github and had full access to everything
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  35. um i didn't ask for a bugatti nothing like i i give him the full way to fix it i'm like all right microsoft owns github right just please fix thing
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  37. exposely is fixed well okay but what got out before that is also the problem and then which is the article i said which was article used at me samantha yesterday i was just showing us that now i'm bleeping um and then so we have midterm elections in november and so ninety percent of people believing what they read on twitter if i force feed everyone certain news i can effectively change who they vote for in any race i want
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  39. now i'm not saying that there's um the whole united states is on twitter but there are a lot of people with a lot of um power that if they read it they believe it especially if there's that blue checkmark it's the influencer like the people who then go out and write the articles and the news stuff that we're all on twitter
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  41. this one's fair
  42.  
  43. okay it is linked to something that i mentioned days ago um in trailer okay uh i don't think people are smart enough to actually uh re be aware of what you are aware you have been aware and uh what's going on everybody is stupid or everybody's corrupt or
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  45. jane wong reverse engineered it i have been tweeting about this all summer um i did receive responses but like i don't see the fixes because there's too many entities too many of the tech comp like so like okay if there's an opening here
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  47. people left companies and gone to private companies and got stock options it's all it i was told two years ago that i was right on the money and i should tell people well tell who so the ceo left prague was the cto he is fully aware he he he can he can fight this he can fix it so i'm hoping he's working on it
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  49. hope it's a beautiful
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  51. i was gonna ask why github um the ai that uh github is a code the software you know uh depository um
  52.  
  53. but uh right so that's where you had a uh that's where um in order to enter the contest for uh all these different for for chirp uh which is twitter's um oh god it's all these different apps that are out there and um you had to disclose your code if you were to enter
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  55. and therefore so they thought they fixed it right they're like oh well just we'll just do this and put it here but no that didn't work it already had been leaked it was already out there
  56.  
  57. so um
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  59. it's been and that's the thing what what you said alberto it's like no you're they're not it's um i don't know i can't figure out why it's not being fixed
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  61. yeah which means that they're in on it right like they're either in cahoots or they they informed people like you know it doesn't take the whole company it takes one or two people yeah that's right that's the yeah but they can't deny that they know about it now and the fact that they haven't stopped it means either don't know how or that they don't want to
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  63. 100 uh i brought it up two months ago i tweeted about it three months ago jane wong reverse engineer the whole thing um
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  65. i i mean oh god and they pick up they somehow get a winner for the contest but what is the contest um these apps are interact with twitter to do what are there something specific or is just on twitter at this point you you could be on a total separate app still getting the feed but getting a feed of yeah i mean you know i use knitter sometimes no java um there's other there's other
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  67. um
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  69. apps that help people get tremendous amount of followers certain apps help people um host algorithms what there's that that one from the philippines there's that other one alberto uh let's not mention that any names right now yeah it worked though i mean it all sounds kind of like you know that basically oh no we can't we are waiting to be attached to the turkey because it's not real barbara no andrew the i can get the transcriptions there now uh i didn't mention from where but uh yeah it's a [ __ ]
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  71. right i mean is there an app that can help you get moved forward like and actually works or is it i thought all that [ __ ] was scamming stuff like they're just trying to scam you oh no this is real this is
  72.  
  73. well there's definitely scammers that are trying to do that like celia the what the secret way of getting you know popular but uh how do the ones that work work do you know
  74.  
  75. um uh are we on twitter alberto right now or are we through an app well i'm i'm using the phone app
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  77. no it doesn't matter what you're using and what matters what the host is using you don't say the name of it just
  78.  
  79. yeah okay
  80.  
  81. so that's what it is if the so then you have a number of um we're blue stacks
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  83. no we're not going to say while we're on it why not i'm not saying this is it i'm not saying it's that one i'm not i'm just having that i'm not saying anything in general there are apps you can run twitter spaces from there are apps you can listen to keywords for you brands can figure out um like let's just say coke and pepsi like so how to like you know change your advertising that's like a simplistic way to explain it but it's much more devious than that it's so it's it's spaces it's the timeline i can make sure you like i said see exactly what i want you to see and it can be totally fake
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  85. so i mean i guess like if they don't care i don't know what to do at this point i guess i don't know yeah from what i understand i do i i know it's gonna happen but it will be too late okay my understanding about time
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  87. sorry um the my understanding is my timeline is um you know uh algorithmic uh whatever based upon the people i follow and the things the topics but it's all stuff that i've chosen right how how is it that you'd be able to influence it
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  89. before before that sorry about one question um i mean laundry rather than this but twitter being a public company having to comply with certain regulations um is there any place where certain things can be reported and should be verified as you see okay and the security exchange commitments they are it's a fiduciary responsibility because basically they are committing their shareholders i mean me if i buy a
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  91. that's another place thing because they they're they're losing out on revenue yeah i mean they're living to me they're right if i'm i have a chair of twitter they're lying to me i mean i'm paying for something that is not true yeah
  92.  
  93. i mean i i bought something that is not what i bought i mean the
  94.  
  95. the stock price yeah i mean i i'm it's a public company
  96.  
  97. and they have a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders to um so like there's multiple ways that this will be handled it's just the midterms elections will affect and happen by then and uh
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  99. yeah so
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  101. so is that a way of uh keeping talking all this in in in um
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  103. regular twitter spaces is okay because i know the owners of the partner that um watch for the keywords both the two companies
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  105. and they are closely watching one's out of luxembourg and once that one's out of uh uh well canada and atlanta georgia um and uh they're closely watching for everything um but you can sway you know you know how close these these especially the midterms like come on now like um and that determines right now we're in a very hostile i mean i'm just i i don't want to see violence i you know
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  107. i just want everything to be peaceful like uh so yeah i mean it's been reported uh to the right people um now
  108.  
  109. whether they get to it in time um how many things i bet i bet they yeah they have to comply with certain things they might be subject to out auditory and bla bla but i bet at the time of that are completely
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  111. calculated in order to oh yeah but it's too late you will write that because it's important it's quarter it's quarterly audits and um that's what we're looking at right now so so you have quarterly audits and then they that they get everything gets audited that gets turned in but it doesn't get turned in until months later so so every three months there's an audit and um
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  113. it's yeah um
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  115. i had someone come into a space that threw everyone out i was hosting this this was like a year and a half ago they threw every single person out i don't know how they did it
  116.  
  117. and they said to me um and they're on the board still
  118.  
  119. and they said to me you're 100 right keeps talking about what you're talking about you'll be protected you're fine
  120.  
  121. um
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  123. and uh one question do we know okay hi kaiko do we know you do we know her do we know him
  124.  
  125. follow me i'll meet you ah now oh yeah huh
  126.  
  127. i can vouch for this particular individual
  128.  
  129. is that coin's other profile
  130.  
  131. when i get kicked out of spaces i can't join with the same account it won't let me so i always switch accounts
  132.  
  133. i see samantha and her microphone sorry okay okay now i'm just sorry i'm having some dramas this morning again so sorry well don't worry the whole world's on fire i know you're not the only one um no well i'm not now i'm having dramas with my kids and their dad
  134.  
  135. for a change ah baby daddy drama that's been on the phone for ben for the last however many minutes but i've had him blocked since may but i had i had to i have had to speak to him so because henry is just i don't know what's going on with him but he's supposed to be at work with his dad but he's not he's still asleep in his bed and i can't get him out of bed and he does this a little bit recently and i've been having trouble with getting him to school and everything as well and um
  136.  
  137. anyways i still get him out of bed the question what do you think
  138.  
  139. what do you think the issue is
  140.  
  141. uh he's a teenager you can't be bothered
  142.  
  143. okay it's nothing you know it's just just a stage isn't it but it's just it's just been
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  145. just pissing me off so sorry i'm a bit thingy today that's it's fine it's fine it's fine i'm just letting you know that i'm sort of in and out i'm not really even when i'm i might be on mute but i haven't been listening because i've been too busy you know what fun inside is that actually it's so so so irony but the solution to this is actually is actually
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  147. yeah no no no this can have this can be solved but actually solving this wouldn't be theoretical and i mean right okay it can be solved perfectly but uh
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  149. okay if no okay never mind but they have a solution but the solution is i think there's more people on this twitter thing than we might perceive i mean there's there's another a new account that i'm sure i shared with you the other day that jack guy who's doing some stuff he's doing that out in the open it's
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  151. this is a problem okay uh make it disappear and you can have wow i know but i think is that i think can you you can secure this problem from from your end can't you as a as as a client
  152.  
  153. a computer as such if you know how to hmm
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  155. certain um like let's say you're on spaces right um you have to log in certain ways and uh i'm sure it's not easy and it's not for the regular user uh for the person that is going to be selecting a presses at boogiotin i don't think that person will be doing anything like that to to to bring them to the person that is going to be manipulated by the news and who is going to take decision based on the news that person are you generalizing when you say that person no i'm saying i mean my my mother if my mother was the end user and she was going to
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  157. yeah sorry but that's my that's what i'm saying that it's not that securing it is not for the regular person but they're right the point that you always mention uh the end consumer uh basically yeah they don't give a [ __ ] yeah well no they're just they're not it's not it's not simple so therefore they can't implement right yeah i get it that they're manipulating was it yes no not yesterday the day before i had a thread of my dms between me and i was talking to someone and they were definitely hijacked three times
  158.  
  159. so it's definitely still a thing but interestingly the
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  161. uh by the way i'm i might crash anytime soon which was odd and but wouldn't wouldn't i'm pretty sure my mic's not working your mic is working coin we can hear you oh okay all right we're just talking about can you not hear us no but i i i'll ask a question and nobody will be able to hear the internship just responded you think yeah i can hear you yeah i just assuming i think alberto said he might crash right but i'm i'm keep talking and working on that
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  163. i mean i'm super interested in this i would love to know more i i guess you guys aren't allowed to talk about it but um i the chirp i should where should i start there and figure out what that contest is and then maybe i'll understand what's happening now where do i start so uh this goes back like two years uh um
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  165. we're talking about the some of the largest tech companies uh i don't know the uh how to so i i have no place to start and i can't understand it well if we were logged in a different
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  167. i don't think i just think coin is is reading too much into i'm frustrated thinking we're being secretive when we're not being secretive i ask a question you can't answer it like the answer is i can't answer i understand that
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  169. no we're we're on a platform that
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  171. i can't discuss this on this platform some third party software that's collecting keywords now why can't can you explain why you can't discuss it on the space because we're talking about twitter i mean yeah why uh hey twitter sucks hello twitter i don't like you sorry we're not on twitter i'm on twitter uh yeah
  172.  
  173. but you're not allowed to say the one that you guys are using okay fine um
  174.  
  175. you are not on what you said you are on holding your hand something that's where you are what what are you holding in your hands are you in twitter
  176.  
  177. um i'm sorry i've got a cell phone using the twitter app bingo
  178.  
  179. was that not obvious
  180.  
  181. so when you have some of the largest companies in the world that are compromised it's very difficult to talk about um we saw what happened to one of our friends you're worried about your safety i'm not okay i mean but you said it was hard to talk about safety necessarily can you please
  182.  
  183. okay let's just say in general um uh god
  184.  
  185. in any way you i keep asking questions you can't answer how close was the election in 2000 very close okay another percentage i understand it's like if you're able to manipulate twitter you would you could definitely swing close elections like 600 people in florida and we have one studies yeah oh yeah yeah and then they recounted the count miami-dade and it was all screwed up anyway so yeah right so i know that i definitely know history yeah um so i have received certain answers but the problem is they fixed the leak after the leak happened what leak
  186.  
  187. look at your dm on your other account okay
  188.  
  189. just look at bleeping computer it was the one that samantha yeah on this tweet um all right i looked at the article yeah
  190.  
  191. like i summed it up very well and tagged all the major apartments and heard back from one party developer
  192.  
  193. who's entered into chirp so um like i don't know what's up is he a tr what i don't really know what chirp is i have to figure out what any and you're not allowed you can't talk about it on this like what the point of the contest is
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  195. what what they're trying to do and they said they're gonna pick a winner but that i don't know what the end goal or what these apps are supposed to do
  196.  
  197. because people okay i'm trying to look up chirp okay
  198.  
  199. how's your timeline how many followers have you gained over the last six months well not a lot i don't usually but i don't care about followers i don't go for yeah i don't do anything to being followers no but like what are you even seeing like how do you know you're seeing the right thing like
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  201. i don't but that's what i said earlier that my um timeline the things that i see which i have set to um most recent posts not whatever the that not most recent post thing is but what elon musk actually said to everyone to do if you remember regardless of what we think of them but i i had done that well i mean long before he posted that the um but it's almost that i follow or retweets of people i follow it's their activity that's what i see i assume is that not the case
  202.  
  203. no you can easily be fed tweets um that have that are not by people you follow 100 i can force that without a problem i wouldn't do that but i could i don't know um
  204.  
  205. how can i tell if i'm seeing tweets by people i'm not following like the promoted tweets for sure well look at the tweet and see if you follow the person yeah i'm doing that and i mean i've never noticed not following someone but i'll have to check you also have a lot of accounts so i mean that might have you know well and each one follows different types of people i mean a lot of them i'm following like you guys my friends on all of them right but uh you know one's more musical ones more um the infosec you know the crypto stuff is all on the coin hub account
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  207. the main thing is we should be getting real news like like samantha should be getting news in her country alberto should be getting his news in his country kay your car you know same thing yeah if they're following news sources yeah but i should be rich i should be reaching the people that people that follow me should be reaching where i post and the more the most number of people that follow me the less
  208.  
  209. impression that i get they are decreasing more and more the less people are rich the more people follow me the less people i reach um
  210.  
  211. is there a way to like um like show that with evidence that you could compile or quantify your trends there's all these companies that do that right like data mining alberto is being uh muted some for some reason i don't know why yeah
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  213. that's right i mean the frustration that i feel when i said [ __ ] i have 30 000 followers and i'm getting i reached uh 10 of the people that i used to reach when i had a 5 000 followers [ __ ] yeah that's but but they say they're not doing that um like the isp is throttling your service like they they say they're not doing it you think they are but they you can't prove it either right because that's all internal this has nothing to do with the isp that's the whole dollar story yeah i'm using that as an example like that's another thing you can't prove just like you can't prove he's being shadow pen but this i can prove no but what i'm talking about i approved i did on the platform i proved it on github i proved it all over the place
  214.  
  215. not for a bug mounting for nothing i didn't ask for anything i just want it to be fixed that's it
  216.  
  217. that's all i ask for i want us as friends to be able to meet up and hang out and say hello yeah but um they won't do it because most likely they're the ones doing it right they're not gonna fix their own no problem will fix it he will fix it
  218.  
  219. um it's just not enough time
  220.  
  221. um
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  223. i just hope that they've been reading it it's coming um from multiple sources that are credited uh very high up um and they've all been uh they've received the message so i hope uh they're working on it um remember when the seesaw left samantha when was that how long ago was that it was a year oh it was a year ago no you're talking about chug no
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  225. and then jack left so but no that was off the job training for 10 years under jack um
  226.  
  227. and he knows what he's doing i mean he he he does he's got
  228.  
  229. he does have a lot of stuff to fix he's just started something new isn't he right okay adam i get this thing where i get a tweet we need an independent firm to come in and audit the whole team they need people that are non-technical that are technical and they need them to come in they need them to be ethical as possible as you can get people to be right and um
  230.  
  231. it's pretty basic i mean we go to the stage where we're at burn it down we really are it's that bad they're never gonna let him outside they wouldn't even let elon musk see that there and he was trying to buy it like
  232.  
  233. was he well i don't know who knows i wasn't trying to show up what was happening actually maybe i get um a tweet here in my timeline and it says um based on your feedback so it's someone i'm not following and then and i didn't and someone uh didn't like it but it just is that what you're talking about the curating them
  234.  
  235. i have no idea what you're talking about but all i know is i was offered a blue uh check mark and i turn it down so okay yeah i don't i wouldn't want one of those either oh [ __ ] i'm not on the yeah it says i'm not even on latest sweets on this account that's weird i wonder if it reset it or something i'm checking all the rest the that i know is somewhat curated for and who knows what but i thought if i switched to latest tweets i don't um
  236.  
  237. yeah it's not going to show me the weird stuff it should show you the latest tweets yes yes
  238.  
  239. unfortunately i believe in and it's the only way and it is how has always been that that post on the tweet that i i i put is the only way i unfortunately you know it works it's it shouldn't be like that but it's the way of of of patching the vulnerability but it call it bachelor vulnerability but it's it's it's the way it has always been like that unfortunately i know about the manipulation the shadow beginning the yeah curation and it's uh they've been doing that forever i mean not you know for a long time since they've been able to compile all this data and then look at trends and then try to manipulate global populations like this is what they do they're evil um i was looking for some information on like what the this current thing is
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  241. 100
  242.  
  243. but i have faith that for 10 years he prague was training under jack for web 3 but then he gets there and all of a sudden sees all these like like what's going on like like once you're at that level um so first you have to root out like okay who's causing it is it coming from inside or outside
  244.  
  245. and some maybe just hypothetically think of this if you were inside and somehow my making my making money off of that right
  246.  
  247. all of a sudden you might then throw a wrench out there and like make it so it's very hard to find out
  248.  
  249. but it's not i know exactly who it is there's a lot of people that do and um some of them live in california some of them live in brooklyn or new york
  250.  
  251. and um as samantha said prague just got there he's i mean like you got to give the guy a little time he's been there for a year a couple years at least what's that he's been there for several years now but once you become ceo that's a whole nother level and then don't forget he became ceo and elon musk then tried to purchase the company so um that happened all in the middle of that so you like you know
  252.  
  253. yeah well i i don't like some of the statements he's made about censorship and stuff and how he's very pro uh censoring uh people um but other than that i don't know i didn't think about what there's only one reason he said that that's because that's only because um of what's his name mooney over uh in
  254.  
  255. a country uh where there's 20 million users approximately that use twitter um and um he's not pro he's not he's pro free speech he wants to be able to talk okay um you can't say the country
  256.  
  257. how could you do not know you just said 20 million so there's lots of countries that have about that population
  258.  
  259. and i said mooney like how do you not know that
  260.  
  261. yeah who who is the head of country state of a country that has a billion people
  262.  
  263. a billion people that would be either india or china yeah first one
  264.  
  265. which one but it's not moony in china you the first one oh india okay okay so he might have to say certain things it doesn't mean he believes it he believes in freedom of speech
  266.  
  267. he wants us to talk are you kidding
  268.  
  269. he wants the platform to flourish under his leadership i you know whether it happened i hope it does okay we like it we're on here enough but um also wants to see it into web three now
  270.  
  271. when that will happen is another question and how long it will take some indian indian brand of baby diapers called mooney is all that comes up in a google search just look up who's whoever had it who's ever the head of uh india he's just fong
  272.  
  273. jesus do i have to spell it out for you like i would really appreciate it
  274.  
  275. modi
  276.  
  277. okay why why
  278.  
  279. well that's not how it came up in the captions or the you know what i would have heard it but that's okay fine but it seems weird that you're not you can't say the prime minister of india it's not that you stop reading stuff into it corn you're making this a lot more difficult but um like you know we're not trying to deliberately way that we divide is very strange just asking you to be more creative with your thought process this is not like don't take this personally there's nothing personal about this you shouldn't be feeling like or questioning in the way that you are because but you're not saying anything with substance yeah this stuff is all i have to i've already known all this stuff right it's all implications i've only been talking about it for two years i mean
  280.  
  281. i mean i've known about this normal baby stuff i'm still trying to figure out what's true no not that not that not that like that yeah um
  282.  
  283. the game of the contest i've got the chirp challenge uh something called lagos development it's a developer challenge um join us i've got something that are gonna have a space but they don't explain what the challenge is under the profile twitter develop products and apis
  284.  
  285. i just i mean i want to know what these apps are trying to do what the challenge is in this developer challenge usually there's a goal there's like um they're working towards something they're trying to prove something
  286.  
  287. it's very strange that we can't talk openly about that
  288.  
  289. um hi pierce how are you my friend and just one second i just popped in i just popped in say hi i've been in and out uh for the last hour or so and uh have you had you have your morning coffee my friend yeah i'm sitting here with a cigarette in my coffee
  290.  
  291. um and they all started singing in the last space and uh i think you know it's cool um that they you know those spaces are there but um
  292.  
  293. i'm not much of a singer well i am actually not a bad singer i'm irish and every irish person i'm a very that is a top gun and uh when he approaches the woman in the bar she starts singing to her and the woman asked her ask him are you a good pirate or well i can hold my own and the woman says good then i won't have to worry about you making a living as a singer that would have without me
  294.  
  295. uh well i don't think i should have to worry about it either but i just well i've been in and out a few of you have probably noticed and i just thought well i'm not going to keep coming in and out without saying hi at least so i'm sorry uh kyko you were talking about something an awful lot more important so i shall shut up now and let you uh carry on me well no worries um you know i'm frustrated i'm not trying to browbeat you guys i feel no i understand we're just doing that like you guys are my friends
  296.  
  297. what's up why did you switch profiles when we started talking i got kicked out like the the thing crashed
  298.  
  299. give it another space right what's that your application crash not the space yeah my application crashed it booted me out of this the space i then i i've i have tried in the past to rejoin with the same account never lets me usually i will close out the app reload it load up a new account and then i can get back put right in with a new account that's otherwise i i'm just out of the space
  300.  
  301. i just can't explain why that happens but that's in my stage i did find out i did i'm on the chirp developer challenge website it is it seems like it's a hackathon it's a
  302.  
  303. because i brought something up two months ago and and the first when they announced the contest yeah and they said they had to be and open using the api v2 uh to make either content discovery apps uh conversation safety tools which is a way of saying censorship uh and public good apps which has no meaning to me but um uh except for like that's scary because someone's idea of that so i would be concerned about who decide you know what now look at who the judges are okay um and look at how how and when when they can be appointed how it's very unlikely i wouldn't know any of them but no it doesn't give you a name
  304.  
  305. so let's say i was a
  306.  
  307. somehow loosely related to someone who created this particular um third-party app i might want to have my friend i would might sponsor it and then pick my friend to be the judge so they would win absolutely but what does your app do right like is that that's where the manipulation comes in like your app is meant to manipulate because it's a um conversation safety tool or some [ __ ] basically can we talk about the nepotism right [ __ ] rampant like literally i'm just so pissed off about this [ __ ] 2016 whatever the rare frog apes and i was like this is a bunch of [ __ ] literally just selecting their [ __ ] out here who are just like for based on what it really has always been like that
  308.  
  309. right but like people worship [ __ ] what what now it's our time we're old enough now it's our turn to be in charge right okay it's our turn well we're old enough now it doesn't always have to be like that yeah based on what or based on like our non-xenophobic profiles of the fact that we love humans around the planet whose languages we can't even understand you know i mean like that part of it how many things you think lots of them do you hate people that don't speak the same language that you can't understand
  310.  
  311. i mean i mean
  312.  
  313. i i appreciate the superscript that's cool i'm just uh thanks for hoping thanks for hosting alberto mad props
  314.  
  315. so how is everyone today all happy and uh well i'm living a good life amazing day uh it's a amazing day in winter here uh for the of august uh yeah it's cooler for you yeah what's the temperatures like make me feel better it's hottest out here um here well actually it is 10 celsius degrees which is is well it's considered this wow it's 7 am well during the day it reaches to 20 degrees which is a very beautiful temperature for winter it's amazing sunny beautiful so yeah
  316.  
  317. that's a nice warm winter summer's day here basically it's amazing i mean the thing is that yeah the lowest in at night can reach three to two but during the day when it's sunny the the past days wow have been really like it's been amazing yeah wonderful i'm moving to uruguay alberta gonna get my pen sorted out mate and i'm i'm coming over to live with you guys and you can uh you can be my interpreter okay yeah so this is like somebody offering
  318.  
  319. uh
  320.  
  321. and i think it was a steak with an egg on top of it and i thought where are the vegetables
  322.  
  323. it's a vegetable i don't know what's happening
  324.  
  325. with every meal alberto and i would make sure that that would happen breakfast lunch and dinner it would be uh some good healthy
  326.  
  327. when was booked when are you arriving listen i'm getting my stuff sorted out here it's a long process with pension and whatnot and uh seriously dude you know why not i mean um uh a new adventure you know bugger off somewhere else and uh and take my pension with me and uh um so you know i'll keep you posted dude you know or i'll just do what i used to do to my parents and just turn up at the door which wasn't always a very good idea um and just surprise your knock on the door and you'll open the door and there i'll be dressing police thank you don't take it like an aggression but when i open the door and i give you uh the the the vacuum cleaner don't they it's just it's just a a a way of saying welcome thank you for coming here and need your help
  328.  
  329. hang on a minute of course you've got one of those little robot vacuum cleaners haven't you i can't i don't know how to use the other ones that's right yeah you're correct i have a vacuum cleaner and you know what that you want there's a video there i put a rail on it i press the button to make it roll and it brings the resume to me so it's a device to serve red bulls
  330.  
  331. those roombas create a lidar map of the interior of your home and then they send it back to and sell it well i mean
  332.  
  333. i mean all those features were amazing so i bought it because of the features
  334.  
  335. i mean it can be remotely controlled so if you got a problem somebody can access and solve it so yeah that's why i bought it because so many features that are amazing and makes life so much easier and safe yeah i'm not so great vacuum cleaners from what i've seen but okay yeah why why is the vacuum cleaner it sends in some packets to to a certain country that i don't know never mind yeah right i mean that that's obviously not great um yeah i mean you want if you don't care about it that that's fine it's not that i don't care it's just i cannot believe it's happening for it to function so very poorly no you know what because i i i started researching and it's doing this thing that is called my mind mining mining or something like that i don't know it uses something and it's just i don't know uh it mines something great of course
  336.  
  337. yeah i don't know i don't understand much but it's a good feature
  338.  
  339. processor in it yeah for no reason yeah i mean i the the electricity bill wow i have to tell you that i have to sell my kidney to pay for it i don't know why because that vacuum killer really has her oh [ __ ] adam she is consuming a lot of energy and uh but you know if they're not i i did i've read a thing about roombas and how they they are selling your information and that's one of the things you agree to when you purchase one and set it up i click i mean i sign a paper i click on yeah next next next i accept yeah yeah yeah i mean of course oh you don't read it why not
  340.  
  341. when i bought my vacuum cleaner you understand that like i didn't there was no sign up but i just had to take it out of the box and start vacuuming oh so you didn't get one with a like warranty or a year guarantee that if there's any like fundamental fuck-ups that aren't your fault from like overuse or doing stupid things with it yeah if there was like a warranty yeah i didn't sign up for one but it usually usually only get that was on like the more expensive ones all right because roombas you get that yeah but i was so so so disappointed with my latest one i bought my original one in lakeland and it was uh rrp 300 pounds this is back in the 90s and it was one that they were discontinued or something and so i got it for half price then i saw one in the like rinsed clear section when they used to have one in lakeland that was like 100 pounds i was like damn it but you know i think i got unwell with uh the first one so when some years later i moved here and it was time for a new one i thought it's a considered purchase but i'll get like not the latest latest one because i tend to think that getting the latest model of anything is just a bit foolish but i might be swayed on that by matters of monies and yeah basically i was i was most disappointed
  342.  
  343. okay so um look at that real quick just when you get a chance after you respond okay sorry okay
  344.  
  345. so if you trust any of those sources
  346.  
  347. okay now we're tying
  348.  
  349. uh i gotta get on with me today uh as said i only come in to say hi to you all love you all to [ __ ] uh have a great have a great day guys and you bye bye see you now
  350.  
  351. how does it feel open source code i thought open source means you know available
  352.  
  353. oh my mic off uh check how's your open source code this was the issue you had to
  354.  
  355. i mean i can't do all the research for you bud um but
  356.  
  357. it's all there they've all been alerted they've been the last year two years sorry um but uh i can tell you that um
  358.  
  359. so in in like the blockchain when they say a contract is open source it means that it's available to be looked at and like copied or you know it's not uh well but there's a security portion of a lot of uh apps that um typically you would not uh submit for chirp being the contest and typically the winner of the contest that app gets purchased by twitter when that used to happen now i'm not saying that i'm not saying that's gonna happen but so
  360.  
  361. you tell me
  362.  
  363. i bring this up
  364.  
  365. i'm not they aren't that they say i'm allowed to ask a question
  366.  
  367. um and they'll respond will put me up back down to the listener
  368.  
  369. so that's back in july the contest started it's over august 19th it end and uh
  370.  
  371. much more than this was alerted um it strips the credit you see that who cares about it
  372.  
  373. right yeah it's not accrediting the the but what is it doing with compli this co-pilot is um taking this code uh from all the the the api of um twitter the twitter depository in api does are you familiar with like an application programmer interface like what will you do with that the bare basics yeah okay it means you can work you can build something that's going to interact with uh twitter put up with hacker news or what uh bleeping computer posted um which i had up there i don't know if it's up there albert doesn't took it down or not but um wish i would uh so if 3200 had already been take did you take that down because if it had been taken if you guys didn't take it down well what i did i don't think anyone's taking anything down i'll take some of my [ __ ] out because the one from bleeping computer that you said that was in hacker news yesterday i did like about accounts being hijacked yeah i did
  374.  
  375. so basically this this comes out this is you could see you see the date but really i knew like way before i'm trying to like tell people tell people they're shuffling employees around you can't get anyone you know et cetera et cetera right um ceo step down there's a takeover uh there's a new ceo and you have to be fair that is fair 100 you have to give him time you do i haven't seen him do anything yes what's that i haven't seen him do anything aside from the comments he made that i don't like uh he i haven't seen him change it in any way or in any bad way at least he's he's getting his footing is the point he's like you can't expect a ceo to take over a multi-billion dollar corporation and know what's happening right away well if he was if he had some like evil agenda or it was to like wreck it no seen any of that happen i haven't seen that there's no evidence for that that's what i'm saying no it's not no i'm for the ceo will fix it once he figures it out saying to you it's gonna be too late okay so let's say you're a republican right i'm going to fix it so a democrat wins in your district let's say you're a democrat so a republican wins whatever it doesn't matter the point being is people get their news off twitter in the united states they and you know people don't read articles you know they don't they read the headlines i agree that they could for sure manipulate but what am i i guess i'm not sure how they're going to do it with this spot that steel takes code and compiles it um also the the api as far as the bleeping computer thing like um i'm going to make sure joe biden wins the next election then okay you're cool
  376.  
  377. okay uh but uh
  378.  
  379. because whoever his opponent is i'm going gonna make sure that bad news gets out
  380.  
  381. right you could um like that's like i'm not saying i'm gonna do that i'm saying that's the power of it you understand yeah the potential the um the potential the potential to do to manipulate is there uh
  382.  
  383. i um i guess i gotta figure out what the body that have millions of followers that i can take i can
  384.  
  385. go to their account
  386.  
  387. tweet it a tweet and make sure all their followers receive it
  388.  
  389. and it's funny because uh when i tweet something uh having in potential at least twist reach of 30k i took something and apparently i get 5 000 i mean in the best case so five thousand of people that follow me okay they're inactive they don't connect regularly but 25k out of 30 i do not get the tweets from the person they're following in my case this um the co-pilot it says is owned by it was created by microsoft and open ai github is owned by yeah i'm not going against my twitter no thanks but co-pilot is run is a as a ai um that github oh uh control it says so what
  390.  
  391. i said uh yeah i can't i can't spell it all out
  392.  
  393. this microsoft has been opening i trained an ai system called co-pilot on data that was published under open source license it says that it's their bot it's not some outside thing this is github taking the code it's from to off its own platform
  394.  
  395. or am i reading it wrong
  396.  
  397. they're not giving they're using the source code read the whole thing this is what i'm saying people are don't even read articles so like open the whole tweet like i mean the article yeah
  398.  
  399. um
  400.  
  401. so whether this was a hack who knows you know i don't know but um or uh but um so i can steal the credit from let's say oh i don't know let's say spaces dash for why she sees andrew yeah i mean you ever go into those uh like apache um open source licenses and they they have to credit all that stuff like that's part of all that licensing agreement and um you know the privacy policies created spaces dashboard he was in the space with me we both asked the same question we said why do we have to give our security code coding up if github is able to take it
  402.  
  403. um
  404.  
  405. and no one got back to me but andrew did was nice enough to uh dm me uh the answer he received which is an interesting answer uh but i mean you know uh you know we'll see what happens i don't know i think that my personal opinion is uh uh doesn't matter really it's in their hand now they know what's happening they know what's happened uh
  406.  
  407. it's too late to fix the contest ends it ends august 19th so this was july 6th this tweet went out what are the options two what's that alberta what are the options
  408.  
  409. um okay there's a board member at twitter that is fully aware of this that has been and um he's trying to uh
  410.  
  411. see what can be done and i'm using he as in he she they
  412.  
  413. uh they're trying to fix it they're trying to fix it um the options uh
  414.  
  415. i don't know i mean they changed it enough but like there's only a few people that have enough programmers coders to to like then like make the changes in time
  416.  
  417. what is the
  418.  
  419. right exactly so like how do you go against multi-trillion dollar corporations you can't you can get the information out but yeah it literally says that microsoft owns co-pilot and that's the only way to get your access i i tweeted all this information and someone else got the credit but that's cool i'm fine with that i don't care about the credit i just wanted to be fixed that's it that's the thing there's a lot of people out there's a lot of unsung heroes out there and other people take the credit what the credit for
  420.  
  421. what do you mean stuff for finding stuff that's bad that shouldn't be there oh yeah okay sure july 6 um oh my god
  422.  
  423. i'm at the article that you tweeted out right as much as i'm willing to give uh it's just not enough for me to understand i'm afraid i'm sorry
  424.  
  425. i'm reading the article uh it says that microsoft can you can on spaces dashboard let's just take andrew because i cc them and he was nice enough to respond to me when he he received the response but no one else did okay so um that's cool and then next month which just happened um the guy who was there running it i happen to be on vacation so oh no answer but i knew there was already an answer because i had the answer
  426.  
  427. so
  428.  
  429. what do you mean like uh i stripped the credit from another
  430.  
  431. like um it's pretty god
  432.  
  433. um like for example samantha in your country if you wanted a certain someone to be still i don't know they're they're still what's that did you say still no carrick sorry just repeat what in my country i was thinking like someone to be like you know elected to something you could in theory get an article out like uh like strip a program get an article out there you know
  434.  
  435. you could waver you could point it people in one direction or another most people only read like titles of an article you know or six seconds of video you know yes analytica stopped with brexit they did that i think it's fair to say that a lot of us that do do a lot more reading than that not always but by and large i think i agree that the average person oh yeah you do alberto does i do uh i don't know if queen does or not but i bring a lot more than the average person but i have not read these specific articles until today
  436.  
  437. okay so on twitter to read right and so two years ago i i brought this up someone had the power to come into space i was the host they took me out 24 people they took everyone out of space and said to me keep talking i'm listening i have your back don't worry and a very powerful person and they do have my back i know for this for a fact i'm not worried about it i know i have their back too like it's not you know the point is is like as long as the knowledge is spread across you know multiple consonants multiple states etc um we know but i'll tell you who's gonna win um we already know that
  438.  
  439. i one don't know that
  440.  
  441. yeah because you've never participated in a trip so you didn't even know what there was
  442.  
  443. right so so okay um i from what i've read in the article
  444.  
  445. the copilot ai which microsoft owns and licenses out um you know to who they decide uh it scrapes the code off of um github uh you know when they should be taking credit uh even though the code is open source so it's okay to take it but you're supposed to give credit um and they're not doing that obviously and then they're selling it for profit you know um off to other companies who will i guess use it to manipulate but that's where i don't i i'm lost because i i don't i don't i can't make the connection between the the oh what is it called the copilot ai and how a third party or private entity is going to use that to manipulate what we see on twitter and it doesn't seem to say that in an article
  446.  
  447. um
  448.  
  449. yeah there's just a lot i i would yeah i don't know how to explain that to you um they're you know you have to know a lot of coding and programming and um what if micro what if sorry not microsoft um github um decided they wanted spaces dashboard what if what if a malicious or a threat a bad uh a persistent threat actor wanted space's dashboard what if um someone says you know what we're going to come out with our own form we we see this because there is an actual in the ios store and in the google play store you can download a app that has which in theory is supposed to be decentralized um but so they take it they take the credit for it right um then they decide what news to disseminate or not disseminate depending on their agenda
  450.  
  451. is this but you'd have to use whatever their version of space's dashboard is right what what what news channel do you watch just fox cnn which one any of them i watch a lot of youtube independent news but yeah i also put it i have cnn fox uh msnbc reuters yeah let's just use uh cnn just uh as an example okay what if i what if i could take over cnn take the credit for owning it like i developed it i programmed it um and not only that i decide what shows you get to see and what lineup uh happens
  452.  
  453. that's what this is doing
  454.  
  455. on a massive scale so what happens if more we all read that bleeping computer report uh about that team in north korea what if they decide to do it what do we do then
  456.  
  457. would we know and wouldn't we be using like
  458.  
  459. a spacious dashboard is a different site right no what are you talking about what is space's dashboard
  460.  
  461. spaces dashboard was created by andrew lyons and a number of other people that helped them yeah i've been on this site it is a different site it's not twitter right you can search key terms you can uh look for keywords
  462.  
  463. oh yeah i've been on it okay that's right i remember now you know i don't use it but i've been on it before
  464.  
  465. so whether you agree or disagree with the like shouldn't we have some sort of like decentralized like which what github was supposed to be right decentralized but it's not obviously because this was the problem now they said they fixed it but they really um i'm not even known there no thanks
  466.  
  467. so
  468.  
  469. just you choose whatever topics you'd like to see i'll change them all how would you change my because i'm using twitter the app not
  470.  
  471. i'm not looking through spaces dashboard i'm not using that it seems like they'd be able to upload that with their own version use their own version
  472.  
  473. they're okay how do they tingle back twitter
  474.  
  475. man like are you asking you really don't know are you like i don't know i'm not trying to be disingenuous i really would like to know i don't have a coding background if it's impossible to understand these things without a coding background then nobody's going to understand it except for because i don't have a coding background can you explain it samantha we'll take it down from here um we'll take it down again over so this is what came out of hacker news and bleeping computers over 3200 apps leaked twitter api keys some allowing account hijacks so what if a major news station in any given country
  476.  
  477. right hang on adam let's just check you understand what the keys are right coin uh with an api key they're able to develop a uh a an application that can work with uh the twitter app but they're not able to actually change the twitter app itself am i or um they can somehow oh it's about integrating interacting with twitter's content exactly can they do that within the app with me not having ever gotten their third-party content
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