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Conville Relay

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  1. This relay started off with a bang -- I composed a text that was way too long,
  2. causing Jute to drop out. The original torch then passed to Protondonor, and
  3. we agreed to reduce the original text of 19 lines to a more manageable 5
  4. lines. The original text is reproduced below:
  5.  
  6. ORIG.
  7. When King Watradaiwa was still alive, that Caspam, having become viceroy of
  8. the land of Sarugada, served in that office for fourteen years.
  9. But there was treason in the heart of Caspam.
  10. When King Watradaiwa had passed on, that Caspam said to the people, "whom have
  11. the people of Sarugada promised loyalty?"
  12. "Our King has died, now I have become king in the land of Sarugada."
  13. When they heard this, the people became hostile. They began to follow Caspam,
  14. they did not stay loyal to me, they left me.
  15.  
  16. ORIG.
  17. Watradaiwa jeke atiya cuktuyuku ayu Caspam Sarugada neruwañ amelajeke woldatol ayu tatmedulaño catñañayray musar jubuneñ.
  18. W. king still live-INF that C. S. land-GEN viceroy become-CVB_SEQ that office-LOC ten_four year serve-TNS-3s.
  19. When King Watradaiwa was still alive, that Caspam, having become viceroy of the land of Sarugada, served in that office for fourteen years.
  20.  
  21. Ayu dagi gorka Caspamwañ ciriaño nedegolma uruneñ.
  22. that from but C.-GEN heart-LOC disloyalty be-TNS-3s.
  23. But there was treason in the heart of Caspam.
  24.  
  25. Watradaiwa jeke payuwa kotlabasu, ayu Caspam nokomgayoka "Sarugada nokomga piriyoka megigolma tayulañ?" derumdaneñ.
  26. W. king world leave-PART.AOR.PFV, that C. people-DAT "S. people who-DAT loyalty promise-3s?" say-TNS-3s.
  27. When King Watradaiwa had passed on, that Caspam said to the people, "whom have the people of Sarugada promised loyalty?"
  28.  
  29. "Jeke-egwa rakubasu, getwa Sarugada neruaño eñi jeke woldawa."
  30. king=1p die-PART.AOR.PFV, now S. lang-LOC 1s king become-AOR.1s
  31. "Our King has died, now I have become king in the land of Sarugada."
  32.  
  33. Ayu gisiñapa nokomga gecila megi woldañ, ulu Caspam sardanaku balagiseñ, eñiyoka megigolon artaneñajida, eñya nedayaseñ.
  34. that hear-CVB.SIM people hostility with become-3s, 3s C. follow-INF begin-3p, 1s-DAT loyal stay-TNS-3p.NEG, 1s-ACC leave-3p
  35. When they heard this, the people became hostile. They began to follow Caspam, they did not stay loyal to me, they left me.
  36. --
  37.  
  38. After two weeks, Protondonor got back to me. Let's see what happened:
  39.  
  40. PD.
  41. King Watradaiwa still living there, Caspam became under the king in the country of Sarugada, serving that office for forty years.
  42. Yet from there disloyalty is in Caspam's heart.
  43. King Watradaiwa had left the world, there Caspam says to the people, "To who have the people of Sarugada promised loyalty?
  44. Our king died, now I become the king of the country Sarugada."
  45. Hearing that, people became hostile, they began following Caspam, they did not stay loyal to me, I left them.
  46. --
  47.  
  48. Already, 14 has become 40. An understandable error, given that I don't think I
  49. specified which way around numeral compounds work. PD also didn't quite catch
  50. the meaning of "amelajeke" -- "underking", as it were.
  51. The next line, "from there", is also my fault -- the fact that "but" in Old
  52. Inggirian is preceded by a noun phrase in the ablative was not explained
  53. either. I do wash my hands of the misinterpretation of the Old Inggirian tense
  54. system though.
  55. Lines three and four are alright...
  56. But suddenly "they left me" turns into "I left them"! Miraculous, and not a
  57. wholly implausible thing to be in this text, so this is sure to be deliciously
  58. confusing.
  59.  
  60. So let's see what that turns into in PD's lang.
  61.  
  62. PD.
  63. 𐍃𐍄𐌾𐌰𐍃𐍄𐌺𐌴 𐍅𐌰𐍄𐍂𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌹𐍅𐌰 𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃 𐌸𐌿𐌸 𐌹𐌻𐌹𐌸𐍃, 𐌲𐍂𐌰𐌲𐌲𐌰𐌽 𐍃𐌰𐍂𐌿𐌲𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌼 𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌰𐌹𐌸𐍃 𐍃𐍄𐌾𐌰𐍃𐍄𐌺𐌴 𐌽𐌹𐌻𐌴𐌹 𐌳𐌰𐍃𐍄 𐌾𐌰𐍂𐌰𐍄 𐌰𐌸𐌿𐍂𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃.
  64. during watradaiwa king.N.s there live-PST.3s, country-D/G.s Sarugada-A.s
  65. become-PST.REAL.3s during 4 10 year-N.p
  66. When King Watradaiwa still lived there, he became Sarugada to the country
  67. during 40 years.
  68.  
  69. -- Oh dear. I think there might be a few words missing ...
  70.  
  71. 𐌹𐌸 𐍀𐍂𐍉𐌳𐍉𐍃𐌹 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐌳𐌰𐌸 𐍃𐌰𐍃𐍀𐌰𐌼𐌴𐌽 𐍅𐌿𐌻𐍃.
  72. but treason.N.s heart-L.s Saspam-D.s be-NPST.REAL.3s
  73. But treason is in Saspam's heart.
  74.  
  75. 𐍅𐌰𐍄𐍂𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌹𐍅𐌰 𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃 𐌹𐌻𐌾𐌰𐌼𐌰𐌺𐌰𐌶 𐌺𐌰𐌸𐌾𐌰𐌼𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌸𐍃, 𐌸𐌿𐌹𐌽 𐍃𐌰𐍃𐍀𐌰𐌼 𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃𐌹𐌲𐌲𐌰𐌽 𐌼𐌿𐌽𐍃, "𐌺𐌴𐌹𐌾𐌰𐌽 𐌺𐌿𐌾𐌰𐌸 𐍃𐌰𐍂𐌿𐌲𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌽 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐌳𐌾𐌰𐌽𐌽𐌰𐌶 𐌰𐌼𐌳𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌽𐍃? 𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃𐌰𐌼 𐌺𐌿𐌻𐌰𐌸𐍃, 𐌸𐌿𐌹𐌽 𐌼𐌴 𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃 𐌰𐌿𐍂."
  76. Watradaiwa king.N.s life-ABL.s-3s depart-PST.REAL.3s, so Saspam nation-D.s
  77. say-NPST.REAL.3s, "who-D.s person-N.p Sarugada-G.s heart-G.p-3p
  78. promise-PST.REAL.3p? king.N.s-1p die-PST.REAL.3s, now 1s king.N.s
  79. become-NPST.REAL.1s"
  80. King Watradaiwa departed his life, so Saspam says to the nation, "whom did the
  81. people of Sarugada promise their hearts? Our king has died, now I become King."
  82.  
  83. 𐌸𐌿𐌲𐌾𐌰𐌽𐍄𐌰𐌸 𐌺𐌿𐌾𐌰𐌸 𐌸𐌿𐌼 𐌺𐌿𐌻𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌽𐍃, 𐌳𐍅𐌹𐍃𐌾𐌰𐌽𐌰𐌹𐌻𐌲𐌲𐌹𐌽𐌽 𐌼𐌴𐌽 𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌽𐍃.
  84. when person-N.p that-A.s hear-PST.REAL.3p, hostile 1s.D become-PST.REAL.3p.
  85. When the people heard this, they became hostile to me.
  86.  
  87. 𐌼𐌴𐌽 𐍀𐌹𐍃𐍄𐍉𐍃 𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌽𐍃 𐍅𐌿𐌻, 𐌾𐌿𐌸 𐌼𐌴𐌽 𐌻𐌾𐌰𐌷𐍄𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌽𐍃.
  88. 1s.D loyal NEG-PST.REAL.3p be, and 1s.D leave-PST.REAL.3p
  89. They were not loyal to me, and they left me.
  90.  
  91. -- Well, at least that reversal unreversed itself, so he caught the mistake.
  92. The first line is bound to have some funny results though.
  93. --
  94.  
  95. So now the torch passes to matt. What exciting things will he read out of PD's
  96. torch?
  97. --
  98.  
  99. MM.
  100. When King Watradaiwa lived there, he became known as "Sarugada" to his country at his 40th year ruling.
  101. But treason was in in Saspam's heart.
  102. King Watradaiwa departed from his life, so Saspam says to the nation,
  103. "To which person did the people give Saraguda's heart?
  104. Our king died, so I shall become king"
  105. When the people killed him, they became hostile to me.
  106. They are not loyal to me, and left me.
  107.  
  108. Tragically, <kula> "die" and <kulai> "hear" look very similar, and PD has
  109. forgotten to include the latter in his vocabulary. RIP line four. The
  110. interesting omission of words in line one has also had predictable effects.
  111.  
  112. So how about the conlang version?
  113.  
  114. MM.
  115. us-a ngamse u rang Uaterataiua-ru kunap-f rat' fie u-n rang sk'-usa tàj turetur pa tunt'u tafra-n, aruk'a t'ex-usa sutm pa nggikr iuri Sarakunda-usa
  116. that-ABS place PST FAR Waterataiwa-ERG chief-PRED summit REL PST-3s.ERG FAR
  117. CLF_generic-DAT two generation APPL.DUR rule inhabit-3s.ERG,
  118. and_during_that_time all-DAT people BEN become APPL Sarakunda-DAT
  119. Waterataiwa lived in that place and had ruled as high chief for two generations,
  120. and during that time he became known to all the people as Sarakunda
  121.  
  122. Saspam-a u xaumbaf-ru kusem snet nuer-usa
  123. Saspam-ABS PST treason-ERG fill APPL_BEN/MAL_TR heart-DAT
  124. Treason filled Saspam's heart
  125.  
  126. Uaterataiua-a kunap-f rat' u uru snet xwefnasam mif xwie, ndum ngwimet-a Saspam-ru fait-n-s
  127. Waterataiwa-ABS chief-PRED summit PST leave APPL_BEN/MAL_TR soul from life,
  128. and_DT nation-ABS Saspam-ERG say_to-3s.ERG-3p.ABS
  129. Waterataiwa's soul passed on from this life, and Saspam said to the people
  130.  
  131. "mu-usa-a u ngwimet-ru ip-si Sarakunda-t nuer?
  132. who-DAT-ABS PST people-ERG give-3p.ERG Sarakunda-GEN heart
  133. Who is it that the people of Sarakunda gave their heart to?
  134.  
  135. kweti-t-a kunap rat'-f u k'arti sami ni-usa rang nggikr-xue iuri"
  136. 1p-GEN-ABS chief summit-PRED PST die should CLF_indiv-DAT FAR become-1s APPL
  137. Our high chief has died, I should become high chief
  138.  
  139. ni-a u sutm-a itimi-si sàj uarif-pasn tù xue iuri
  140. CLF_indiv-ABS PST people-ABS kill-3p.ERG simultaneously become_hostile-ANTIP
  141. DEMOT 1s APPL
  142. The people killed him, and then became hostile to me.
  143.  
  144. xue-a kwans-ru mbat'u-n-mung-i ta
  145. 1s-ABS CLF_masses-ERG be_loyal-3s.ERG-NEG-1/2s.ABS leave
  146. They are not loyal to me, and leave me.
  147. --
  148.  
  149. Well, Tambajna certainly is a grammatically obtuse language. Leaves only
  150. Anais...
  151.  
  152. --
  153. A.
  154. That place that the chief Waterataiwa ruled in for two generations, during which time he became Sarakunda for everyone.
  155. Treason filled Sapsam’s heart.
  156. Chief Waterataiwa passed away, and Sapsam told the clan, "Who did the clan give Sarakunda’s heart to? Our chief should die, I will become them."
  157. They killed them, and at that moment I became hostile.
  158. They all left, not being loyal to me.
  159. --
  160.  
  161. Yeah, God only knows how those Applicatives work. I think the result speaks
  162. for itself.
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