JproxyYesterday at 7:39 PM
Can I ask you for some tips on kingdom
In the past we have always been able to just have everyone building and mining and one or two people looting, but seems like that’s not really working that great, do you think we need more looters or is it just a territory game
Uki just told me to have everyone mine but Iv been doing that and we’re losing rank now
AndnookYesterday at 7:49 PM
That's near as anything to what we do
I think its more to do with other guilds filling to 20 player caps
And them getting a better grasp of what works and what doesn't for their guild
JproxyYesterday at 8:06 PM
Yet you guys still skyrocket
I’m obviously missing something
Everyone is active
AndnookYesterday at 8:06 PM
We honestly do what you said above
JproxyYesterday at 8:06 PM
I’m not sure what it is
AndnookYesterday at 8:06 PM
Theres only so many different actions a player can do LOL
JproxyYesterday at 8:06 PM
I know
How many farms do you guys usually have per season
Maybe we just got royally fucked this season because of our 5 day walk to starting spot
AndnookYesterday at 8:09 PM
Yeah that wont have helped, plus you cant really know what other guilds have
they may have lucked out with good areas straight away
JproxyYesterday at 8:09 PM
Well I do have screenshots of Germanheros spot and territory
Nd Vietnamae too because they are right next to us
AndnookYesterday at 8:10 PM
i always have a conspiracy theory that if we do well, we get shafted next season in spawn location
JproxyYesterday at 8:10 PM
I have felt that too haha
That one season we got first
The next season right after we had 0 runes
AndnookYesterday at 8:13 PM
Not sure really though, as we were literally on the same screen as GermanWings
and both guilds have done well
JproxyYesterday at 8:14 PM
Yeah they aren’t too far from you
I’m looking at their territory and they have like 2 mines
AndnookYesterday at 8:14 PM
they moved away
JproxyYesterday at 8:14 PM
They are all just looting
AndnookYesterday at 8:14 PM
after we started doing stuff
JproxyYesterday at 8:16 PM

AndnookYesterday at 8:16 PM
maybe try that then, could work better for your players
JproxyYesterday at 8:16 PM
They are running almost  entirely on passive and looting
AndnookYesterday at 8:16 PM
Its hard for me to comment as i really dont know your members
JproxyYesterday at 8:16 PM
I can’t convince them to go loot
After musics repeted deaths and Vietnamae terrorizing them with their pvp teams everyone is scared lol
The scariest thing about this is, even after this long, I feel like no one else really understands the big picture, they just rely on me to tell them where to go one step at a time
Even though I have made a very clear mission statement as it were for the season objective (priority territory’s etc)
Just feels like I’m carrying 19 people on my back and not like a team
AndnookYesterday at 8:20 PM
haha welcome to GM a top guild
JproxyYesterday at 8:20 PM
Although I did just get a few new recruits that will hopefully have more spunk, noteable Biased and Stage1
AndnookYesterday at 8:20 PM
now imagine uki doing both
JproxyYesterday at 8:20 PM
Oh my god I know
I can’t even imagine
AndnookYesterday at 8:21 PM
Although im sure if you asked anyone in WAL pre/post Uki they would say him and I have very different approaches
JproxyYesterday at 8:21 PM
A huge part of me wants to just ditch it and take the next application to WaL but I don’t want to totally wank everyone else over, because I literally can’t trust any of them enough to actually run the guild
AndnookYesterday at 8:22 PM
Get a more active sub-gm perhaps?
JproxyYesterday at 8:22 PM
Especially since I have been working so much lately it’s hard to take the time to plan stuff out
Kordar is my sub because his time zone is opposite mine
But he is so non competitive
He is always a top contributor but I don’t think he has the salt to run the show
AndnookYesterday at 8:23 PM
Yeah i do the same thing with a US timezone so i get my precious beauty sleep
JproxyYesterday at 8:24 PM
What’s your inactivity threshold
AndnookYesterday at 8:26 PM
Depends on the person really, usually a week and well sort a replacement
JproxyYesterday at 8:26 PM
Longer than I expected
AndnookYesterday at 8:26 PM
We usually run a few people down, but it's a game and real life happens
JproxyYesterday at 8:26 PM
Yeah I don’t want to be a hard ass
AndnookYesterday at 8:27 PM
I had stuff to deal with and was semi active and nobody moaned
so i give everyone else the same grace
JproxyYesterday at 8:27 PM
Some payers are doing bare minimum though
I usually give them 48 hours or longer if they give me a heads up
But I have a couple players who literally only get on that once every 48 hours after I warn them
Technically they are within the threshold but jeez
Make an effort
AndnookYesterday at 8:28 PM
Yeah we replace people all time, i can only think of 1 season weve had the same lineup as previous
had 3-4 swaps this season already and got another i predict to deal with soon
JproxyYesterday at 8:29 PM
I don’t necessarily know their rl situation though and don’t want to be a prick and kick them from a good guild
AndnookYesterday at 8:30 PM
That's dealers choice there, Uki was ruthless
if someone was even close to 48h they'd likely be replaced
JproxyYesterday at 8:32 PM
But if I don’t replace them  then we may not be a good guild much longer
AndnookYesterday at 8:32 PM
You should just do what's best for you, i changed my approch to just to the minimum in the bits i dont particularly enjoy
and focus more on the stuff i like
JproxyYesterday at 8:33 PM
I just don’t know if it’s my strategy or if it’s my players
AndnookYesterday at 8:33 PM
Taking a step back/down sounds like it would personally do you wonders to have fun again, but may (at least in the short term) slow down Infinity
WAL has survived 3 GM's so I don't see why Infinity would be any different
JproxyYesterday at 8:39 PM
Who was gm before Uki
AndnookYesterday at 8:39 PM
Jort
JproxyYesterday at 8:40 PM
Oh right
I knew that lmao
AndnookYesterday at 8:40 PM
Mr Youtube himself
JproxyYesterday at 8:41 PM
I don’t even want to talk about this

This is what I mean by “carrying 19 people on my back”
AndnookYesterday at 8:43 PM
It would be a non-brainer decision for me if I were in that situation assuming I wanted to continue playing
I would swap guilds or at least pass over leadership to avoid burnout
JproxyYesterday at 8:44 PM
It’s sad when your contributions from looting are higher than your most active miners
AndnookYesterday at 8:44 PM
Well contribution stats are misleading a little so i wouldnt read too much into that
theres no way our "worst" players who get the simple jobs but have high contribution than me, have really done more for the guild this season
JproxyYesterday at 8:46 PM
Yeah I understand that, but generally speaking, the contribution score is much easier to gain from mining non stop than it is from looting
AndnookYesterday at 8:46 PM
I see what you mean
JproxyYesterday at 8:47 PM
$200 usd worth of potions and sprinting for 25 days straight has netted me just about 10% more contribution than one guy farming since day 1 without any potions
AndnookYesterday at 8:47 PM
If people do what's required then were all happy
Yeah we have the same here too, people who obviously get massive rewards at the end of the season but never pot
And others that do it on cooldown
JproxyYesterday at 8:48 PM
I usually have the players willing to use pots to camp the ruins
But the 2 ruins we had ran dry and now Vietnamaes 5 man looting team is passing us
They have 5 people out looting
AndnookYesterday at 8:50 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they had more than that based off the kingdom logs
And their terrible infinity pvp teams during the active season
JproxyYesterday at 8:51 PM
Yeah it’s hard to compete with that
I would never let my players use their journey teams
Why would you sacrifice the whole game for just a small mini game portion of it
AndnookYesterday at 8:52 PM
Maybe that is their whole game to them
JproxyYesterday at 8:53 PM
It really does seem that way
I just can’t help but wonder
If they are also buying coins
Or if it’s really just useless to buy them, other than the obvious supporting devs
AndnookYesterday at 8:55 PM
stereotype alarms firing
asians love to P2W idle games
JproxyYesterday at 8:55 PM
#truthbomb
AndnookYesterday at 8:55 PM
I play another game and its obscene what they drop on it
JproxyYesterday at 8:56 PM
You know I used to play this Korean mobile game called Elsword
It was absurdly p2w
AndnookYesterday at 8:57 PM
I play, extremely casually, AFK Arena
JproxyYesterday at 8:57 PM
I was rank 1 archer, rank 4 overall for the server, and it was insane how much money it was costing me to stay there
AndnookYesterday at 8:57 PM
and it has the biggest whales and most greedy devs ive ever seen
JproxyYesterday at 8:57 PM
Yeah I started ago arena too
Afk arena*
Super p2w
AndnookYesterday at 8:58 PM
Just joined to play with friend to stop him nagging me
JproxyYesterday at 8:58 PM
That egg event I calculated, it’s literally impossible to get the 350 egg hero without buying eggs
AndnookYesterday at 8:58 PM
and he got me in a decent guild but its 90% Asian P2W players
JproxyYesterday at 8:58 PM
Same Kordar and Daudau got me into it they are playing it a ton
I started a guild
Lvl 3
AndnookYesterday at 8:59 PM
This one is 6 I think
a lot of good players and im by far their worst :smile:
its nice just to be the noob and nobody expects anything haha
JproxyYesterday at 9:01 PM

AndnookYesterday at 9:01 PM
all i know is they told me to save gems for next weeks patch for the new OP hero
JproxyYesterday at 9:02 PM
Yeah ya nice when no one has any expectation
AndnookYesterday at 9:05 PM
I just log in casually and have fun, its easy to do the daily Qs in about 5m tops
JproxyYesterday at 9:06 PM
Yea same
Well I’ll think on your advice a little, I gotta get back to work. If you get a spot (and if you will have me) let me know, If I do, I will likely leave an alt in Infinity to keep them on track, just for* you to consider. I can add you to infinity guild channel too if that is the case, so there’s complete transparency
AndnookYesterday at 9:10 PM
Nah I'd rather not be in there.  No offence, but I just concentrate on our own stuff than know/see other guilds info
JproxyYesterday at 9:10 PM
None taken just on the table
AndnookYesterday at 9:10 PM
But overall, you should do whatever is best for you, whatever decision you decide
JproxyYesterday at 9:12 PM
I’ll probably discuss it with my guild and see how comfortable they are with it, maybe stay with them for another season to legitimately train one or two of them instead of just directing
Thanks for your advice I’ll catch you later
AndnookYesterday at 9:13 PM
Oh and I personally wouldn't do the whole alt thing
If it's what he claims, that's how Uki got banned
JproxyYesterday at 9:46 PM
But Gonda wasn’t banned
AndnookYesterday at 9:47 PM
he had about 3-4 alts in WAL alone, let alone whatever else he had in other places
JproxyYesterday at 9:47 PM
He told me he got banned because captcha got him while he was away
:face_palm:
AndnookYesterday at 9:48 PM
I personally think it's alts + botting
his playtime was ganzxi level at times
JproxyYesterday at 9:49 PM
Yeah I can see that
AndnookYesterday at 9:49 PM
who knows, maybe it was captcha - just seems more like a warning sort of thing, than ban