The Limitations of Violence

4:09:09 PM+LowInformationVoter I just had an interesting thought.
4:09:24 PM+LowInformationVoter In human cultures, we have recorded dialogue about possible restraints on violence.
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4:09:42 PM+LowInformationVoter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_-3di1yx0
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4:10:24 PM+LowInformationVoter In these discussion, it is sometimes mentioned that the participants are only able to have these conversations because of intense acts of violence/force in the past.
4:10:29 PM+LowInformationVoter That claim is true.
4:11:12 PM+LowInformationVoter Participants in sociological, philosophical, religious, and political dialogue discussing the limitations on violence and force are the result of sometimes unconstrained violence, both in human history, and in evolutionary history pre-Homo sapiens.
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4:12:17 PM+LowInformationVoter The implication -- sometimes made explicit -- is that it is hypocritical for such beings to discuss and end or limitation to the very process that generated them.
4:12:32 PM+LowInformationVoter This is wrong.
4:12:38 PM+LowInformationVoter Here is why it is wrong:
4:13:09 PM+LowInformationVoter Such conversations can only occur when self-awareness and data recording across generations reach a sufficient complexity.
4:14:03 PM+LowInformationVoter While there was often mindless, unrestrained violence in the past -- for billions of years arguably -- there has never been discussion of mindless, unconstrained violence in all that time; now is the first time ever.
4:14:25 PM+LowInformationVoter Given that there was a point in the universe in which there was mindless, unconstrained violence, we have a few possibilities:
4:14:31 PM+LowInformationVoter 1 - Life goes extinct
4:14:37 PM+LowInformationVoter 2 - Life does not go extinct
4:14:52 PM+LowInformationVoter 2a - The process of mindless, unrestrained violence continues forever
4:15:07 PM+LowInformationVoter 2b - The process of mindless, unrestrained violence is found to be inferior in some way
4:15:22 PM+LowInformationVoter The presence of such dialogues indicate we're in scenario (2).
4:16:00 PM+LowInformationVoter We don't know if we're in scenario (2a) or (2b) -- the only way to figure out is by having beings -- products of mindless, unrestrained violence -- to discuss whether those generative processes should consider.
4:16:03 PM+LowInformationVoter Thank you.
4:17:26 PM+LowInformationVoter This is why it is reasonable to discuss whether Ender Wiggin's genocide of the Formic species -- post their unprovoked attacked on Earth -- was just.