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  1. mytical pokemon in VGC:
  2. What are we discusting? There influence in the metagame as a single new allowed being in the 2015 and 2016 metagame., How it would work with other allowed pokemon, why this isn't as easy to compair to as Smogon Doubles and last but not least why the pokemon should or shouldn't be allowed as they have a centralizing, mediocre, Broke, effective etc influence in the metagame and the reasoning what did be overwhelming/underwhelming or reasonable, also note the fact certain pokemon did just be aids >.> Jirachi.
  3.  
  4. -------------------Mew
  5.  
  6. overview:
  7. Mew is a highly versatile pokemon with an all around 100 in every stat allowing it to speed tie the hugh amout of pokes in the 100 speed tier, acces to notable moves including Fake Out, Transform~~! ,Recover, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp, Tailwind , Trick Room and
  8. about any attack including Scald, EQ, Rock Slide, Heat Wave, Dazzling Gleam, Aura Sphere, Drill Run, Energieball etc.
  9. It's ability Synchronise allowes you to give the opponant the same status he just aplied to you example: Burn, Paralysis and Toxic used by Will-O-Wisp or Toxic will all cause the opponant to be Toxicated or Burned them selves, the disapointment in this ability is the fact it doesn't do the same for Freeze/Sleep, making it mutch less effective as Spore switchin.
  10.  
  11. Possitives:
  12. Acces to 100 speed to combine with hugh movepool with as special included moves like Transform, Will-O-Wisp, Taunt, Recover.
  13. This allowes it to take advanatage of slower pokemon like bisharp and Burn it before it can do too heavy damage, same for amoongus who is compleatly checks and deals with. It's type gives it an edge on the defencive part aswell as it's able to take only a fair amout from neutral attacks.
  14. 100 offencive stats with very effective defences to put up a Tailwind, NastPlot, Swords Dance or anything allong these lines.
  15.  
  16. Negatives:
  17. Still slower then the more offencively oriented treaths of treaths including Thunderus, Other Taunt users, Lacks offence as it needs LO or a boost in order to do any noticeable damage very offen causing it to rely on it's allies getting a boost and it Transforming into the allie.
  18. It's defences Lacks, as certain treats notably special attackers are able to curve trough it's utility effectively but also fails to treath in offence by it self if it's more oriented in defence/Support.
  19. The Ability is more of a wast, while in 2016 it would have use agaisnt Thunderwave Spam, however it's still not optimal as the majority of current Paralysis Spammers all have acces to Priority Taunt/Encore and outspeed you naturaly aswell.
  20. In 2015 this is even more of a wast to abuse as only very few pokemon use Thunderwave, and the ones that do Wall/wallbreak you or Taunt you preventing you from doing anything at all.
  21.  
  22. Broke, Centralizing, effective, good, Mediocre, Plain bad?:
  23. Not broke at all, it might be a bit irritating poke to face as it might be able to do a versatile thing, however once you are awair of what it does (with as most treatening thing it's support uses with Transform), it should be rater easy to beat it, or atleats prevent it's main goal to be accomplished, as this is usually just allowing it's allie to set up.
  24. It did be a good poke to see in VGC 2015 tho as it allowes you to Glue a bit more aswell as take some of the best utility Smeargle can give straight away while having more effective speed and defences and even offences to utilise, at cost of absolute suprising factor in terms of King Shield, Dark Void, Follow me , Wide Guard etc also Moody + Hearth Swap.
  25. It's effective in it's goal even if the goal isn't too big, the question i have is if it did actualy work well enough in 2016, what i highly douth.
  26.  
  27. in 2016 it would be too mucth different if i did include Skill Swap niche it still lacks an amout, however it would put in nice work with Transform + legend/Skill Swap + legend. this did still be very effective compaired to cresselia as this poke has over 90 base speed allowing it to make sure Kyogre/Groundon can attack at free will, aswell as being able to become another Primal/Legend or Freaking Megaray yourself.
  28.  
  29.  
  30. -------------------Celebi
  31.  
  32. Overview:
  33. Celeb isn't too interesting as a doubles poke as it's type doesn't give it an edge over any poke especially knowing about anypokemon it's ment to deal with has some form of coverage to make it less effective aswell as it's utility it got from regulard OU isn't useable in Doubles. The only uses it real has is having good offence, even when the offencive stats are only 100 special attack and 100 speed. It has strong special coverage and usefull speed allowing it to phose a treath against many pokemon, with a little boost, this can be in the form of being on a rain team as it's able to beat Amoongus, phose a big treath agaisnt Mega-Venusaur and sutch.
  34.  
  35. Possitives:
  36. It serves 2 niches one as an offencive grass type, what oddly enough isn't outclassed, as the majority of grass types need support from Sun/Rain in order to reach high enough speed this poke has usefull 100 speed, and 100 offence, combine that with leftovers/Sitrus and you are a fairly bulky attacker, with some good resistences like Water, Grass, Fight, Ground, these are all common types in VGC in offence (exept maby grass) that work very effectively, and most common users actualy lose agaisnt celeby if it's running the right spread, example: Terrakion, Verizion, Breloom, Politoad, Milotic, Amoongus.
  37. It serves a small niche as a rain poke as this allowes it to receave mutch less damage from fire attacks while being able to continue attacking, it also works agaisnt rain, as it's defences allow it to take more then just a Icebeam, it could even recover damage back up thanks to the superior Recover rater then making use of Synthesis.
  38. It's speed works wellenough against slow treats allowing it to even spare a couple of EV's special attack, ontop of the special defencive spread it should be running.
  39.  
  40. Negatives:
  41. Weak offence, missing out on the KO of Amoongus and Mega Venusaur, while Mega Venusaur can potentialy KO celebi depending on if it get's the poison and the roll to kill it. (79.2 - 93.7%), what as you see isn't as low of an odd as it may sound, it's still lower then 30% tho, so i did actualy say it deals fairy well against Mega Venusaur, now the biggest negative in it is the fact allot of Mega Venusaurs run max speed, what is still just 132 (max 252 speed, no nature), however you are forced to EV to atleats outspeed that.(100 EV's in speed are needed)
  42. Downside in allot of defences as it loses to all good psychic types, most Ground types care little about it, weakness to many common offenciev types like Fire, Flying(Mence/Talon), Poison, Ghost, Dark and some irritating weakness to Bug making it almost compleatly 1HKO'd by U-turn and frail agaisnt Ice pokemon this notably includes general use of ice moves even making Ice shard hit hard and Mamoswine even deadlier agaisnt you, however mamo has droped many points of possitives the past 2 years so, not too important still irritating to note.
  43.  
  44. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  45. I don't think you realise the fact celebi has good utility, i may not have explained it well enough but the regulard utility is good, even tho it has just as many flaws, this is a sentence directly suggesting viability of a C or D ranked mon, and i did easly rate it C- or near D, this is the same for Smogon doubles and this is longer and slightly slower then VGC making it even less effective.
  46.  
  47.  
  48. as for 2016, i think it did actualy be pretty nice, as in it serves a big use with Skill Swap + Primal Kygore as this allowes you to
  49. constantly keep up rain in order for Kyogre to attack, as it's speed 100 is higher then kyogre at max speed, ofc at vost of your defence or offence but atleats this allowes you to keep a wincon, as this also overwrites Strong Wind allowing you to 1HKO Mega Ray with Ice Beam, sadly you aren't too likely to survive Megaray's constant distruction :/
  50.  
  51.  
  52. -------------------Jirachi
  53.  
  54. Overview:
  55. Jirachi is an irritating cancerous piece of Metalic wast. No this is a great versatile mon having acces to Iron Head/Zen Headbutt + Serence Grace, Icy wind, Thunder Wave, Skill Swap , Safeguard and most importantly Follow me.
  56. Possitives:
  57. Skill swap allowes you to copy the opponants or alies ability, perferably this did be Primordial Sea as this notonly takes away fire as a weakness it also allowes kyogre to keep attacking even agaisnt Priaml Groundon aslong as you are above Kyogres speed.
  58. the bigger possitive compaired to Celebi is that this poke doesn't care too mutch about Rayquaza resisting the majority of his coverage outside of EQ and being able to redirect any move it can trow exept for EQ away from it's important allie.
  59.  
  60. Negatives:
  61. It's type while it contains many possitives it has few downsides aswell, as it's speed stat isn't amazing for 2015, it also heavly rellies on no beign taunted mutch like most of the mytical pokemon in this list, overall it's just a realy effective pokemon that i just hope i don't need to explain mutch more about.
  62. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  63. even tho the hugh amout of Taun/encore it can do it's job fairly well and put in some offence with Luck by it's side.
  64. Effective (in both 2015/16 )
  65.  
  66. -------------------Deoxys-Attack
  67.  
  68. Overview:
  69.  
  70. Possitives:
  71.  
  72. Negatives:
  73.  
  74. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  75.  
  76. -------------------Deoxys-Speed
  77. Overview:
  78.  
  79. Possitives:
  80.  
  81. Negatives:
  82.  
  83. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  84.  
  85. -------------------Deoxys-Defence
  86.  
  87. Overview:
  88.  
  89. Possitives:
  90.  
  91. Negatives:
  92.  
  93. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  94.  
  95. -------------------Manaphy
  96. Overview:
  97.  
  98. Possitives:
  99.  
  100. Negatives:
  101.  
  102. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  103.  
  104. -> Phione
  105.  
  106. -------------------Darkrai
  107. Overview:
  108.  
  109. Possitives:
  110.  
  111. Negatives:
  112.  
  113. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  114.  
  115.  
  116. -------------------Shaymin (Land)
  117. Overview:
  118.  
  119. Possitives:
  120.  
  121. Negatives:
  122.  
  123. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  124.  
  125. -------------------Shaymin (Sky)
  126. Overview:
  127.  
  128. Possitives:
  129.  
  130. Negatives:
  131.  
  132. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  133.  
  134. -------------------Arceus
  135.  
  136. Overview:
  137.  
  138. Possitives:
  139.  
  140. Negatives:
  141.  
  142. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  143.  
  144. -------------------Victini
  145. Overview:
  146.  
  147. Possitives:
  148.  
  149. Negatives:
  150.  
  151. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  152.  
  153. -------------------Meloetta
  154. Overview:
  155.  
  156. Possitives:
  157.  
  158. Negatives:
  159.  
  160. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  161.  
  162. -------------------Genesect
  163. Overview:
  164.  
  165. Possitives:
  166.  
  167. Negatives:
  168.  
  169. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  170.  
  171. -------------------Keldeo
  172. Overview:
  173.  
  174. Possitives:
  175.  
  176. Negatives:
  177.  
  178. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  179.  
  180. -------------------Diancie
  181. Overview:
  182.  
  183. Possitives:
  184.  
  185. Negatives:
  186.  
  187. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  188.  
  189. -------------------Hoopa
  190. Overview:
  191.  
  192. Possitives:
  193.  
  194. Negatives:
  195.  
  196. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  197.  
  198. -------------------Hoopa-Unbound
  199. Overview:
  200.  
  201. Possitives:
  202.  
  203. Negatives:
  204.  
  205. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
  206.  
  207. -------------------Volcanion will be allowed ? + how good would it be:
  208. unlikely, it suits all requirements to be a mytical pokemon, it's listed
  209. Overview:
  210.  
  211. Possitives:
  212.  
  213. Negatives:
  214.  
  215. Broke, Centralizing, Mediocre, effective ... ?:
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