30-10-20 (one) log: foolsguild

18:25:31: (One) Waldo wisps: if I sit in the restaurant in the Alchemist's Guild, will it still blow up and will I die?
18:26:49: (One) Dyne wisps: Don't know for sure, but I think so if it's one of the areas that are charred after the explosion?
18:28:01: (One) Dasorine wisps: I would imagine all rooms in the guild area and a room or two outside are where the damage is dealt?
18:32:07: (One) Tulip wisps: Hey, there's a rumble in the jungle.  Head on down to the eastern edge of the centre of Sator Square cos I'm about to drop a fresh corpse.
18:32:33: (One) Starlight wisps: Wow. "Talker history fools" is a sad state of affairs
18:50:19: (One) Starlight wisps: Actually yeah, the individual face paint thing is a good idea.
18:50:48: (One) Starlight wisps: I thought at first that was going to actually be a thing.
18:51:11: (One) Dasorine wisps: I was writing up a similiar thing for witches +1 quest, where at the end of it they get to write their own oddity for their character
18:51:26: (One) Yase wisps: do you have a facepaint command?
18:51:51: (One) Dasorine wisps: pretty sure juggle is the only command fools get
18:52:01: (One) Starlight wisps: No, only juggle.
18:52:02: (One) Daoi wisps: the only guild specific one
18:52:19: (One) Yase wisps: facepainting would be cool....
18:52:22: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i imagine the guild will get developed
18:52:25: (One) Dasorine wisps: yeah they are free to get the general ones like the low tier fighting specials and ambush etc
18:52:59: (One) Yase wisps: they only added more rooms to the guild like a year later.....
18:53:02: (One) Starlight wisps: In working on my covert now as a matter of fact ^_^
18:53:07: (One) DoBBiN wisps: what do fools need?
18:53:32: (One) Dasorine wisps: a joke quota!
18:53:35: (One) Emknaps wisps: contracts liek the asshats guild... that involve cream pies..
18:53:52: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you decorate the face of (x) it looks like (insert skill level here)
18:53:52: (One) Yase wisps: this all needs repped, they are all great ideas actually!
18:54:11: (One) Ashimi wisps: Bucket-onna-door traps for indoor combat.
18:54:29: (One) Yase wisps: that would be under ambush...
18:54:29: (One) Dasorine wisps: secret mime spec for making invisible walls and weapons!
18:54:38: (One) Starlight wisps: ooh, traps, yes!
18:54:42: (One) Rodgerly wisps: Turning around suddenly while holding a ladder
18:54:59: (One) Starlight wisps: Heh, invisible weapons...
18:54:59: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you decorate the face of yase, it looks like a broken egg/a butterfly/a wonderous tiger/ an amazing dragon/wild scenes from pirate battles/an incredible elephant/etc
18:55:04: (One) Yase wisps: invisible mimed walls could be like forcefields..you try to attack them but can't...a type of shield
18:55:19: (One) Dasorine wisps: there is plenty of combat clowning that could be taken from making money and expanded on
18:55:20: (One) Ashimi wisps: Unilimited Pocket space for any weapon classed as comical.
18:55:20: (One) Yase wisps: man I hope a cre is listening
18:56:05: (One) Ashimi wisps: The mime thing would work well in a DW setting, being so convincing that your opponent believes there really is a wall there.
18:56:24: (One) Ashimi wisps: You'd lose the 'say' command though.
18:56:25: (One) Starlight wisps: Almost like headology...
18:56:41: (One) DoBBiN wisps: or camoflage : you paint yase's face and its camoflaged badly/poorly/well/very well/excellent/face? what face
18:56:42: (One) Emknaps wisps: and there'd be a scorpion pit...
18:57:08: (One) Starlight wisps: True, there does need to be a scorpion pit.
18:57:24: (One) Dasorine wisps: "facepaint: You paint your face on in the morning so you feel like you, Facepaint Mime Oh no! you accidentally painted on a mime face! you can no longer speak"
18:57:24: (One) Yase wisps: Yase is no longer standing here but an (elephant-faced human) [ with Yase's inventory]
18:58:08: (One) Emknaps wisps that he misses syntax elephant
18:58:10: (One) Dasorine wisps: Mimes are like a dark underguild and all fools have a mime alter ego
18:58:11: (One) Ashimi wisps: I guess Fools are just covert witches really.
18:58:11: (One) Yase wisps: Fools cold have side-show things as pets....
18:58:12: (One) DoBBiN wisps: it has potential for thieves or assassins , a kind of synergy
18:58:17: (One) Starlight wisps: Maybe the face paint thing could be used like a compact too.
18:58:35: (One) DoBBiN wisps: fools could have confuse or amazeas commands
18:58:37: (One) Dasorine wisps: was thinking more like a more perma-nent warpaint
18:58:39: (One) Yase wisps: and of course a running feud with assassins
18:58:57: (One) Yase wisps: that would be facepaint Dasorine
18:59:02: (One) Starlight wisps: Don't the thieves already have that?
18:59:19: (One) Dasorine wisps: geeze you kill 1 clown accidentally while stealing a deadly weapon of unimaginable power and they never let it go
18:59:19: (One) DoBBiN wisps: (x) confuses you and you fell the need to reward them with (x coins)
18:59:23: (One) Ashimi wisps: Short-distance teleporting by painting a tunnel on the wall.
18:59:31: (One) DoBBiN wisps: or amazes you
18:59:41: (One) Yase wisps: fool related musical instruments like the hurdy-gurdy...
18:59:52: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i like the tunnel idea, between two close streets
19:00:07: (One) Starlight wisps: Oh, I nearly bought a hurdy-gurdy irl the other day...
19:00:20: (One) Yase wisps: or sackbut
19:00:21: (One) Dasorine wisps: though do you really want to be wizards? I mean ok I get it, wizards are all fools anyway but still!
19:00:30: (One) Yase wisps: I tunnel only the fool can go through unless following..otherwise you just run into the wall
19:00:58: (One) Emknaps wisps: fools could actually do some really intresting misc combat
19:01:11: (One) DoBBiN wisps: fools could have routines like rituals/spells/etc
19:01:18: (One) Emknaps wisps: i'd feel bad for westley though
19:01:29: (One) Yase wisps: why?
19:01:33: (One) DoBBiN wisps: routines to travel, amaze, (escape)
19:01:33: (One) Starlight wisps: Surely we should get juggling clubs as a primary
19:01:38: (One) Dasorine wisps: Personally I'd start with more stuff to perform and ways to tie that into doing other stuff
19:01:45: (One) Emknaps wisps: because they have 1K+ (probably quite a bit plus now) of misc
19:02:20: (One) Emknaps wisps: oh, i thought he was a warrior, didn't realise they were an adventurer
19:02:47: (One) Yase wisps: they could have a job market in Slippery Hollow where people them to sing...like those troubadors or minstrels or whatever...."you sing a minstrel song to the <NPC>, he likes the song enough to give you 1 lancre ha'penny"
19:02:59: (One) DoBBiN wisps: sounds cool
19:03:06: (One) Starlight wisps: Of you fail
19:03:12: (One) Starlight wisps: mis
19:03:13: (One) Dasorine wisps: Barding would be a fool spec when llamados is added for sure
19:03:23: (One) Yase wisps: when? woo!
19:03:32: (One) Dasorine wisps: thursday I think?
19:03:34: (One) Ashimi wisps: A performance so bad the crowd pelts the entire room with rotten tomatoes. (AOE attack, uses local culture as a skillcheck)
19:03:58: (One) DoBBiN wisps: amaze, bewilder, fool (x)
19:04:03: (One) Yase wisps: I was just thinking more money as whatever skill(s) are raised
19:04:09: (One) Yase wisps: heck, you could do vaudeville at the stage in the mended drum!
19:04:45: (One) Starlight wisps: I just want some cooler clothes. There are no harlequin-themed leather armours out there :(
19:05:04: (One) Ashimi wisps: Combat increase like berserk but it involves loose pants a one (1) squirrel.
19:05:11: (One) Ashimi wisps: *and
19:05:15: (One) Emknaps wisps: thats the cricky comand
19:05:45: (One) Dasorine wisps: juggle into mass throw combat oppener into ventriloquism jokes to manage aggro making things focus more on certain characters into prattfall to trip multiple targets followed by a strangulation by balloon animal
19:05:51: (One) Emknaps wisps: it's liek a cross between backstab and bezerk... except the target beserks (and if confused)
19:06:15: (One) Emknaps wisps: requires stealth, sleight of hand and grappling
19:06:22: (One) Yase wisps: there are ventriloquist dummies in game! is someone writing all this down? Or are we afraid they'll ask us to go cre and make all this?
19:06:35: (One) Yase wisps: emknaps those would be required for miming
19:06:44: (One) Emknaps wisps: it's an unarmed special!
19:07:07: (One) Emknaps wisps: you sneak up on them, and jam your thumb in their butthole
19:07:27: (One) Starlight wisps: Do we... do we have to?
19:07:36: (One) Emknaps wisps: hence the shock from backstab... and the target bezerks...
19:08:01: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you feel underwhelmed/slightly amused/spooked/scared/ frozen to the bone/brown trousered by the dummy
19:08:13: (One) Emknaps wisps: aroused?
19:08:32: (One) DoBBiN wisps: not THAT type of doll
19:08:34: (One) Starlight wisps: Ooh, could we cause a brown note? Or would that be the upcoming musicians guild?
19:08:39: (One) DoBBiN wisps: not the ones you inflate
19:08:51: (One) Emknaps wisps: although there are those...
19:09:20: (One) DoBBiN wisps: the dummy would be a weapon causing damage?
19:09:41: (One) DoBBiN wisps: and throw for voice as a command?
19:09:59: (One) Dasorine wisps: to unlock fools guild creator interest you must gain 2 entire months of jail time from public miming!
19:10:05: (One) Ashimi wisps: Being able to join lesser guilds would be nice, sorta how you can be a follower but with guilds instead. Offering job missions.
19:10:37: (One) Emknaps wisps: like witches?
19:10:45: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you throw your voice to thedummy and (it fails/the dummy faintly reacts/the dummy reacts/the dummy springs to life/the dummy moves as if its alive
19:11:49: (One) Dasorine wisps: honestly I'd be wary of going too "magical"
19:12:07: (One) DoBBiN wisps: sure, there is MAGIC and magic
19:12:50: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you perform a turn that (looks like tommy cooper/fun/entertaining/amusing/almost magical/
19:13:28: (One) Dasorine wisps: Though I guess presdigitation would possibly come under the fools
19:13:48: (One) DoBBiN wisps: but no MAGIC, its for witches /wizards. Maybe they get a magic primary but not pure magic?
19:13:52: (One) DoBBiN wisps: or maybe not
19:14:05: (One) DoBBiN wisps: the witches would kill me
19:14:33: (One) Yase wisps: or some vaudeville at the Dysk.....though I guess there is that smaller stage nearby for players
19:14:39: (One) DoBBiN wisps: jokes? like a jester?
19:14:52: (One) Dasorine wisps: things that feel magical in effect but are actually just well performed sleight of hand/psychology but in the sad and tragic way of clowns rather than the cunning and helpful way of witches
19:15:16: (One) DoBBiN wisps: you tell (x) joke and get (y) reaction?
19:15:22: (One) Yase wisps: sad clowns lowering your opponents stats :)
19:15:36: (One) Yase wisps: they would all love my play as it involves a mime and a jester!
19:15:39: (One) DoBBiN wisps: or scary ones to make enemies flee?
19:15:40: (One) Dasorine wisps: the reaction is always "target gets enraged and charges at the fool"
19:16:03: (One) Yase wisps: you could insult their guild/country
19:16:50: (One) DoBBiN wisps: hmm. your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries
19:16:52: (One) Dasorine wisps: and of course they need a bladder on a stick
19:17:17: (One) Dahlia wisps: I'll have you know my father smelled of iron, not elderberries!
19:17:18: (One) DoBBiN wisps: the minstrels with bave sir robin
19:17:19: (One) Dahlia wisps that she huffs.
19:17:25: (One) Yase wisps: obviously
19:17:41: (One) Dasorine wisps: oh wait they already have bladders on sticks, thats ok then!
19:17:43: (One) DoBBiN wisps: brave sir robin even
19:18:13: (One) Yase wisps: what about subguilds? what would be their version in BP? Ephebe? BP?
19:18:49: (One) Dasorine wisps: Ephebe would be the politician guild no?
19:19:11: (One) DoBBiN wisps: so fools get tricks or turns, a dummy and ventriloquey, singing, /music, maybe a 'nearly magical' way of short distance travel, ?
19:19:19: (One) Dasorine wisps: but I daresay they'd be more like the witches ;)
19:19:25: (One) DoBBiN wisps that he cooks lunch
19:19:35: (One) Yase wisps: I say you've got the majority of it Dobbin
19:19:48: (One) Starlight wisps: Well, I'm happy to have participated in this ^_^ But it's time for me to go. Have fun with it!
19:19:53: (One) Emknaps wisps: and pie contracts!
19:19:55: (One) Ashimi wisps: The BP version of subguilds is the families.
19:19:59: (One) DoBBiN wisps: do they need/want other things? we didn't ask any fools!
19:20:19: (One) DoBBiN wisps: what does starlight think?
19:20:19: (One) Yase wisps: Starlight started it....facepaint, miming....
19:20:31: (One) Emknaps wisps that he prefers finger painting
19:20:33: (One) Dasorine wisps: baggy trousers to pull out enormous ladders to swing around
19:20:33: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i forgot the facepaint! camoflage
19:20:45: (One) DoBBiN wisps: a deck of cards?
19:20:58: (One) Yase wisps: i do like the idea of joke/pie quota....maybe baking your own pies too
19:21:25: (One) Dasorine wisps: the biggest problem I see is making em unique enough without stealing stuff from other guilds
19:21:31: (One) Ashimi wisps: I believe the books mention a book of Mandatory Jokes that are all terrible.
19:21:45: (One) DoBBiN wisps: so fools get tricks or turns, a dummy and ventriloquey, as a special weapon singing, /music, maybe a 'nearly magical' way of short distance travel, facepaint for camoflage, cards, thats enough probably to look interesting
19:22:11: (One) DoBBiN wisps: jokes! someone write this down
19:22:13: (One) Yase wisps: that's every guild Dasoring...like wizards get portal, but priests get DH
19:22:27: (One) DoBBiN wisps: witches get brooms
19:22:29: (One) Ashimi wisps: I think their most powerful skill could involve a single red balloon.
19:22:43: (One) DoBBiN wisps: that would scare everyone
19:22:52: (One) Yase wisps: ooo, that would raise your stats (until it pops)..Ha'pennywise could be a teacher now!
19:23:36: (One) DoBBiN wisps: anyway, write it down and submit it please
19:23:45: (One) DoBBiN wisps: as i am cooking now
19:23:51: (One) DoBBiN wisps: well done team
19:24:02: (One) Yase wisps: who? I didn't write any of this down :( though I should remember it
19:24:17: (One) Dasorine wisps: next adventurers! lets give them a "I couldn't decide on a guild" t-shirt!
19:24:28: (One) Dahlia wisps: Ooh, that's a great idea
19:24:36: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i think we shouldn't have too many gukds
19:24:52: (One) Yase wisps: why?
19:25:11: (One) DoBBiN wisps: good question
19:25:35: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i think it would be confusing for newbies. Perhaps 10 maximum
19:25:38: (One) Dasorine wisps: main reason is because it becomes harder and harder to give them stuff to do :P
19:25:49: (One) DoBBiN wisps: how many do we have now?
19:25:56: (One) Ochrion wisps: You don't want to spread the playerbase too thinly, just need to look at UU wizard order elections to see the issues there
19:26:01: (One) Yase wisps: I guess as long as there are no ideas....
19:26:03: (One) Ashimi wisps: Fracturing both the playerbase and creator attention over too many guilds would be bad;
19:26:13: (One) Emknaps wisps: lets get rid of priests!
19:26:22: (One) DoBBiN wisps: ok! except pishe!
19:26:25: (One) Emknaps wisps: yeah... well.. we have 8 different forms of wizards alone...
19:26:27: (One) Yase wisps: yeah, kinda not much of a point, look how many subguilds in thieves too!
19:26:33: (One) DoBBiN wisps: yikes
19:26:48: (One) DoBBiN wisps: i'd forgotton all that
19:27:03: (One) Emknaps wisps: gapp only knows how many warriors... a bunch of thieves.. atleast 4 asshats... and witches
19:27:11: (One) Ochrion wisps: Technically 19 different forms of wizards
19:27:23: (One) Yase wisps: OK, we'll leave it at this many guilds for now....until better ideas come along
19:27:29: (One) Ochrion wisps: Though only 8 skill specialisations
19:27:34: (One) Emknaps wisps: there's 8 different sets of skills...
19:28:09: (One) DoBBiN wisps: well i meant assassins, thieves, wizards, witches, priests,fools, warriors,
19:28:15: (One) Yase wisps: yeah, tehre's like 2 warrior guilds in each major country or something like that AMPG and weapons masters, Samurai and Imperial Guards, Djelian Guards, Lancre Highlands and Barbarians....
19:28:38: (One) DoBBiN wisps: and? who did i forget?
19:28:51: (One) Emknaps wisps: muskaters?
19:28:59: (One) DoBBiN wisps: they are warriors?
19:29:01: (One) Emknaps wisps: muscateers or whatever they're called
19:29:05: (One) Emknaps wisps: yeah
19:29:15: (One) Daoi wisps: A musketeer?