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‎[17:28] ‎<‎hiddenbutobvious‎>‎ bot lol
‎[17:31] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ who the hell gets these ideas
‎[17:32] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i bet somebody like aloo_shu has to do with this
‎[17:33] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ do I have a reputation?
‎[17:33] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ elaborate
‎[17:34] ‎<‎Nahck‎>‎ behaving online is overrated anyway
‎[17:34] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ but I have an idea why this could be so, SteppenwolfVM
‎[17:35] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ well aloo_shu, it's you who is looking for attention
‎[17:36] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ so what happens when i type
‎[17:36] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ !help
‎[17:36] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ nothing
‎[17:36] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ look, come, for example, to ##madhouse
‎[17:37] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ and look at the users there
‎[17:37] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ and type !help
‎[17:37] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ then what?
‎[17:38] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ or go to hveem.no, I think, and read up on it. let me check if the link is correct
‎[17:38] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i'm not interested
‎[17:38] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ yes it is
‎[17:38] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ https://github.com/torhve/ivar2
‎[17:38] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ there is a bot called ivar
‎[17:38] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ but i'm pretty sure aloo_shu has a lot to do with that bot above
‎[17:39] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ why?
‎[17:39] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ i dont see anything above that indicates that..
‎[17:39] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ there could be a very different reason
‎[17:39] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ there was a bot attack the other day at #freenode
‎[17:39] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ you want to block the IP, or nick, do it.. or report it in the main freenode channel.. but,i dont see any reason to assume anyone has been involved
‎[17:40] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ by a known botter called opal
‎[17:41] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ so after opal got k-lined, i tested how easy it would be to just take over a nick of someone who isn't logged in
‎[17:41] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ holstein: the bot highlighted various nicks, to gain some attention, and aloo_shu was trying to get some replies. plus, his nick reminds me of some rather mean folks on here
‎[17:41] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ SteppenwolfVM: so
‎[17:41] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ and nicked to opal and back
‎[17:42] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ i mean, if you have proof? act.. otherwise, its just basically an assumption, and potentially, an unwarranted attack
‎[17:42] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i'm watching
‎[17:42] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ lol
‎[17:42] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ so of course, that was visible in *all* chans I was on in that moment
‎[17:42] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ no, you are making accusations..
‎[17:43] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ and opal is making trouble regularly, eg on #ubuntu, #debian
‎[17:44] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ however, some folks here do know me, others don't
‎[17:44] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ I use the same nick everywhere
‎[17:46] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ actually, I frequent here since month, but have hardly/never? encountered the channel founder talking
‎[17:47] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ yup.. he's not around much
‎[17:47] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ s/months
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‎[17:48] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ but actually, I don't see any reason why I even should defend myself
‎[17:49] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ yeah.. i mean, who cares if you get kicked, or whatever..
‎[17:49] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ If the founder doesn't want me here, I'm gone
‎[17:49] ‎<‎aloo_shu‎>‎ pm me if you change your mind, SteppenwolfVM
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‎[17:52] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ SteppenwolfVM: be sure to update the /topic with the style of nick that is allowed in the channel
‎[17:52] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ i want to be sure we keep out all the "rather mean looking" nicks.. whatever that means
‎[17:52] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ sorry, i don't care for this kindergarten
‎[17:53] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ ?
‎[17:53] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ a simple "no" from aloo would have done plenty
‎[17:53] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ no need to freak out
‎[17:59] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ i think theres plenty need, actually.. if you have no proof of anything, and start attacking members for doing things..
‎[17:59] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ i just know myself, or anyone can be next.. and i like to speak up, since, that behavior is odd.. and unwarranted
‎[18:00] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i'm always odd and unwarranted, that's how i am
‎[18:01] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ tho there is a pretty straight connection above
‎[18:01] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i might be wrong, i might be right
‎[18:02] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ lol
‎[18:02] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ if theres a connection? show it
‎[18:02] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ you cant, and havent..
‎[18:03] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ that does *not* make you wrong? it makes it unwarranted, and an assumption
‎[18:07] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ https://laurenmeeler.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/zombodroid19062015013005.jpg?w=400&h=224 lol
‎[18:10] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ SteppenwolfVM: anyways. PM aloo_shu and let him know you had no reason to behave like that.. and have no actual evidence..
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‎[18:17] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ aloo_shu can prove or disprove anything by just staying here, i just assumed what seemed obvious to me and i'm not sorry
‎[18:17] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ SteppenwolfVM: *you* blamed that person
‎[18:18] ‎<‎holstein‎>‎ so, where is the evidence?
‎[18:18] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ i'm not allowed to make an assumption?
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‎[18:19] ‎<‎SteppenwolfVM‎>‎ lol
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‎[18:47] ‎<‎dmbaturin_‎>‎ SteppenwolfVM: You are of course allowed to not practice any constructive leadership as the channel founder. But then everyone else is allowed to not support your "effort" on maintaining the channel either.
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