Active Measures (2018)

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? Russians have
learned that there

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is an asymmetry in
conventional warfare.

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The Russian military
does not match

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that of the United
States by far.
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How do you then balance
out the asymmetry?

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One way to do that is to invest
in much cheaper measures.

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These nonconventional
active measures

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to try to weaken
western institutions,

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undermine western democracies
versus sending in the tanks.

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? Putin realizes that if
we're divided as a nation

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we cannot protect ourselves
from threats within and without.

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? From the Russian
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political warfare is just
part of the art of war.

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? What they're driving
at over the longer term

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is to watch democracy
crumble from the inside out.

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? I'm sitting with
him at dinner.

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I told him I'd been
at the memorial

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of the siege of Leningrad.

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He said I'll tell you a story.

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He said my father was
one of those people

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who was on the front lines.

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And had gotten 24
hours off to go home.

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As he was walking down the
street to his apartment,

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he saw a big pile of bodies
which was not at all uncommon.

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He saw a leg sticking out
and a shoe on the foot

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and he recognized that
as being his wife.

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So he stopped and he screamed

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and said, well, that's my wife.

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That's my wife.

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I want my wife.

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The body collectors told him
to leave and he kept demanding.

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At this point he's pulling
his wife from under the pile.

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He took her to their apartment

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and nursed her back to health.

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And then after the war she
gave birth to Vladimir Putin.

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Putin sees himself as
literally pulling the body

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of Russia out of the pile,
the dust bin of history.

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You know, we are
going to revive you.

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You are not dead.

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And I will take care of you.

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I mean, that is the mindset.

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? I think his ambitions always
were to be the president

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and then gather all the
instruments of power

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into the presidency.

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? His devotion to reasserting
Russia's greatness

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is certainly in
his self?interest

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because he wants to be the czar.

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He wants to be the
richest man in the world

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and he wants to settle scores.

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? He made his way
up through the KGB.

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? His role in the KGB

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was to support Russian
intelligence officers

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living under assumed identities

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under deep cover inside
the United States

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and developing active measures

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to impact the policies
of the United States.

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? The KGB was power.

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If you said that you were
with the KGB, doors were open.

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People would stand aside.

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? In 1991 when the
Soviet Union collapsed,

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every republic that
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of the Soviet Union
agreed at the time

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to recognize the republics in
their then existing borders.

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? Putin, like many Russians,
feels that the dissolution,

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the dissolving of
the Soviet Union

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was a horrific thing because
it made the Russian people

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and Russia itself smaller.

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And the Americans are
celebrating all of this.

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? I think he's dedicated
to building it back up.

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? The first time I met
him in the spring of 1991,

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he was the deputy
mayor of St. Petersburg

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working for the mayor whose
name was Anatoly Sobchak.

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Sobchak was this charismatic
western leaning guy

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allied with Boris Yeltsin.

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His deputy was the
exact opposite of that.

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Non?descript, grave bureaucrat.

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A very soft spoken.

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Had you asked me back then
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that might be the next
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he would not have made my list.

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? He supported Mayor Sobchak

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but he was also organizing
this incredible network

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of former KGB foreign economic
interest and local interest.

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? In the 1990's St.
Petersburg was known

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for organized crime
and corruption.

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State institutions
were partnering

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with Kremlin
organizations to rip off

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as much as they could
as fast as they could.

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? Putin was a pretty good fixer.

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He could make stuff happen.

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He knew how to work the system.

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? [Heather] Mr. Putin
was able as deputy mayor

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to be the focal point of all
of these different networks

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as they came together.

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? He was made FSB director.

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The FSB is responsible
for internal spying.

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These are the guys who
have the most funding,

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the most resources.

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? He learned which
served him in good stead

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how to maneuver politically.

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? That became his primary goal.

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Power.

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The FSB was simply a ladder.

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? Almost immediately after the
breakup of the Soviet Union,

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these oligarchs were
able to take over

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state owned enterprises at
bargain basement prices.

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It turned some of
these individuals into
multi?millionaires

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or even billionaires
almost overnight.

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? Under Yeltsin, the oligarchs

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became very powerful
and very independent.

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And the power of the
state was crumbling.

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The end of the Yeltsin
years he obtained

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almost sort of a buffoonish
type of personality.

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You know, a drunk.

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A little bit out of control.

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? Yeltsin was nervous and
he chose to go with a guy

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that he thought would protect
his family and their assets.

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That's, I think, the
sole purpose why Putin

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was selected to then
run for president.

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? Followed by the bombings
of the apartment houses.

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? There were a series of
terrorist attacks in 1999.

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They found evidence of the FSB

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having been there
and set that all up.

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? I know what has been alleged.

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I find the evidence
compelling and I know

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those terrorist attacks
helped Vladimir Putin

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win the election.

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I'm not ready to believe yet

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and maybe that's just my
idealism getting in the way

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of my analytic side that
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would kill its own civilians
to elect Putin president.

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? The apartment bombings
were KGB operations

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using a type of explosive
that's only made

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in a KGB facility.

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? Oh, sure.

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It was very clever
and the Russian people

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began to look for a leader.

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It's not the first
time in history.

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You can compare
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to the 1930's and the
rise of Adolph Hitler.

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? With respect to democracy,
I think it's pretty clear

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from the very get go he
feared independent actors.

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? Putin started forcing
the independent media

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to knuckle under,
putting in state control,

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turning it into
propaganda outfits.

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? Started arresting people who
had different points of view.

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(men yelling)

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? Then he starts going after
independent journalists.

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They start ending up dead.

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Assassinated.

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? The most prominent
journalist in Russia,

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Anna Politkovskaya was
murdered on Putin's birthday.

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? Putin brought the
oligarchs to heel.

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? A number of them were
forced to leave the country

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Some were killed in
mysterious fashions.

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Those who remained are
basically lapdogs of his.

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? Putin was letting
everyone know

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that this period of
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their own thing
was very much over.

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? And then he brought
his most trusted friends

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and confidantes from the
intelligence services

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into the key positions,
controlling all
those businesses.

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? Vladimir Putin and his
oligarchs used money,

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essentially stolen from
the Russian people.

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? If you're one of
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getting your stolen proceeds
into a rule of law system

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is one of your
highest priorities.

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? Once that money is
laundered, they have access

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to western banks and they
can do whatever they want.

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? Semion Mogilevich was the
first big organized crime figure

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in Russia who figured out how
to launder massive amounts

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out of Russia and the
former Soviet Union.

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? Semion Mogilevich is worth
about 10 billion dollars

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according to FBI reports.

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He's considered the
money laundering genius.

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He's sometimes
called the brainy don

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'cause he has a
economics degree.

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? [Scott] The most important
of the Russian crime bosses.

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The man who was for years
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in the United States.

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? [Jonathan] He still lives
happily in Moscow today.

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? [Reporter] In Russia he
still gets the VIP treatment

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and is rarely without a
bodyguard who chauffeurs him

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and his 200,000 pound armor
plated bomb proof limousine.

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? [Reporter] Why did
you suss out companies

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in the Channel Islands?

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? The problem was that I
didn't know any other way.

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Well, they taught us
geography at school.

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I was sick that day.

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? The Russian mafia
is an adjunct of the
Russian government.

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? I've described it as
going from organized crime

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under the Soviets to
disorganized crime

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under Yeltsin to organized
crime again under Putin.

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? His networks recycle back
to Mr. Putin's inner circle

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and they continue to help
maintain Mr. Putin's power.

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? To the point where
today Putin may well be

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the wealthiest man on
the face of the planet.

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? Yeah. (laughs)

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Yeah.

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Everything I know that's
interesting I can't tell you.

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Now let me try to think of
a way to go at 30,000 feet.

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Yeah, I know where
you're going with this

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'cause I know we're gonna talk
about Trump in a few minutes.

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? In the 70's Donald
Trump is a scion

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of one of the biggest
landowners along the east coast.

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? He played monopoly.

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Yes, indeed.

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More than monopoly, he
played with building blocks.

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Always with building blocks.

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? He has huge ambitions,
huge ego as we know.

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? Because not everybody is
meant to be a business person.

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They'll ruin their lives.

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I mean they'll go and they'll,

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they'll put up their house and
they'll mortgage their cars

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and everything else they own.

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? And he is starting
to move into Manhattan.

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? Trump Tower was
structured in a way

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that made it a money
laundering paradox.

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? [Nina] Trump Tower became
one of the first buildings

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in New York where
Shell companies could
buy and sell condos

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without identifying yourself.

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? If you go back to the 80's,
Senator Henry Scoop Jackson

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got a bill through Congress
allowing the immigration

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of Soviet Jews into
the United States

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at a time when immigration
had been highly restrictive.

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? We'll honor the
right of a person

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to leave a country freely

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and return freely just as
clear as anything can be.

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? [Craig] The Russians
saw it as an opportunity

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to open their jails.

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That's when you see members
of Russian organized crime

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come to the United States
for the very, very first time

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and end up in Brighton Beach.

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? There were certain techniques

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for money management
and money movement

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that were prized above others.

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And these involved real estate.

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? It started off simply as
money laundering pure and simple

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and you had in 1984 for
example David Bogatin,

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who was a Russian
mobster, met with Trump.

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Trump Tower had just opened
the previous year and Bogatin,

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who had no legal way
of making that money,

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sat down with Trump
and bought five condos

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and the state
attorney general ruled

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that that was money laundering.

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Vyacheslav Ivankov,
who was very close

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to the great mastermind
of organized crime,

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Semion Mogilevich, and he
was sent to the United States

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to oversee the rise of
the Brighton Beach mafia.

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And when the feds were looking
for him they looked all over

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and they couldn't find
him anywhere in Brooklyn.

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Instead, he was
living in Trump Tower.

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? Donald Trump marries Ivana.

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The Czech Secret Police
takes note of this.

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The intelligence that they
gathered was that Donald Trump

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was being pressured,
not clear by whom,

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to run for president
as early as 1988.

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They thought that it would
be good for Czechoslovakia

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if this husband of a Czech
citizen became president

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of the United States.

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After his successes
in New York City

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he got into the Atlantic
city casino business.

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He goes big.

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Builds the Trump Taj Majal.

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? Which will be the largest
hotel casino in the world

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and I think it's gonna
be a tremendous success.

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? That turns out
to be his undoing.

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? In a town where
for the last 10 years

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no casino with
60,000 squared foot

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has ever been fully utilized.

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On what basis would someone
build one with 120,000 feet?

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He was destined to fail.

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? Trump Casino was
hit hard for having

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violated U. S. federal anti?money
laundering regulations.

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It suggests a culture of
willful disregard of the law.

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? [Nina] He basically
unravels financially.

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He also was unraveling
personally at this same time.

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His marriage was falling apart.

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? [Jonathan] By that
point he had filed,

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I believe it was
six bankruptcies.

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He had no way to move
forward professionally.

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He couldn't get a
bank loan anywhere.

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? There is a homeless
person sitting,

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sitting right outside
of Trump Tower.

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I remember my father pointing
to him and saying, you know,

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that guy has eight billion
dollars more than me

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because he was in such extreme
debt at that point, you know.

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? The Russians have a
particular type of mark

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whom they go after.

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They go after somebody who
has business resources,

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perhaps some shady morals
so that they're amenable

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to the bribery.

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Or perhaps are in a difficult
financial situation.

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And either has political
connections or aspirations.

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I've just described
Donald Trump.

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He was the perfect
mark for the Russians.

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? The Russians saved him.

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They rescued him.

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He would not have gotten back
in business without them.

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I think it's safe to say he
couldn't have run for president

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if he had just been a guy

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who was four billion
dollars in debt.

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When the Russian
mafia does something

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it's with Putin's permission
and it's serving his interests.

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? Have you ever
knowingly done business

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with what I like to
call organized crime?

314
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(audience laughing)

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Have they ever stopped by and??

316
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? Well, I really tried
to stay away from them

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as much as possible.
? Right.

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? Although I must say
I have met on occasion

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a few of those people.

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They happen to be
very nice people.

321
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You just don't want
to owe them money.

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? Yeah, I understand.
? Don't owe them money.

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? Simeon Mogelivich, he made
a decision to make the move

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on Trump after studying Trump's
2004 bankruptcy filings.

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Noticing that Trump had
lost his credit lines.

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They felt he would not be
in the position to say no.

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? The Russian real
estate firm Bayrock

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started leasing
space in Trump Tower.

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Putin needs to keep
track of his oligarchs

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and one way of keeping tabs is
knowing where their money is.

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Bayrock may well have
been a way of doing that.

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To me that's a turning point
because what we have here

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is a very serious
intelligence operation

334
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and it is in the
belly of the beast.

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It is in the home of the man

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who becomes president
of the United States.

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And it was operating there
for many, many years.

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? One of the key people putting
it together, Felix Sater.

339
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? A lieutenant in the
Mogilevich crime family.

340
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Very connected into the nexus

341
00:19:03,977 --> 00:19:06,680
between the Russian
criminal organizations

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and the Russian national
security organizations.

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? He became managing
director of Bayrock.

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He himself had been
convicted of two felonies.

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? Slashing a guy's
face at a bar.

346
00:19:19,926 --> 00:19:23,296
? Another was a pump
and dump stock scheme.

347
00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:25,999
But he ended up
cooperating with the feds

348
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and he started
providing information

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on sales of weapons to Al?Qaeda.

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Mogilevich, according
to FBI reports,

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was selling weapons to Al?Qaeda.

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That raised very
interesting questions

353
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'cause I don't think Felix
Sater would betray Mogilevich.

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He famously
threatened an investor

355
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with electrocuting
his testicles.

356
00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,827
Trump worked with Sater
for many, many years

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after it was revealed
that he was a criminal.

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He continued to work
for Trump and in fact

359
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had a business card saying
that he was a senior advisor

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to the Trump organization.

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? [Michael] There's
multiple photographs

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of the two of them together.

363
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,909
He had an office in Trump tower.

364
00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:11,778
Trump was the public
face of Bayrock.

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? And yet when he was placed
under oath in a deposition

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and confronted about
Sater, he simply says, uh.

367
00:20:19,019 --> 00:20:20,787
? If he was sitting in
a the room right now,

368
00:20:20,854 --> 00:20:23,557
I really wouldn't know
what he looked like.

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? [Craig] Trump actually
personally asks Sater

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to escort his two children,
Ivanka and Donald Trump, Jr.,

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on a trip to Moscow and
showed them around the town.

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? He seems to be playing
a consistent role

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in assisting the Trump's
and tapping Russians

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or let's say post?Soviet money

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for developing
condominium units.

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No co?op board has to
review whoever is buying.

377
00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:54,420
It's safer than
putting it in the bank.

378
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(upbeat electro music)

379
00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:00,761
? The Sunny Isles development
is the Florida development

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that the Trumps own that
has been heavily populated

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by Russians who want
to launder their money.

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? [Craig] At least a
third of the condos

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in Sunny isles, Florida
have been sold to Russia.

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00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:20,514
? Trump's Soho is one of the
promoters of the project.

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00:21:20,581 --> 00:21:22,883
Alexsandr Mashkevich
has been described

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00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,851
as Mogelivich's banker.

387
00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:30,891
The Trump Tower project
in Baku is located

388
00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:35,562
in the middle of a
post?industrial sledge pool.

389
00:21:35,629 --> 00:21:38,331
It's just sort of a joke
that they were building this.

390
00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:42,736
? Trump World Tower.

391
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I started looking
at who bought into

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and the very first name I
came across that was Russian

393
00:21:47,107 --> 00:21:48,274
was that of Eduard Nektalov.

394
00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:51,512
He had been indicted
for money laundering.

395
00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,614
He turned state's
evidence and was going

396
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,649
to cooperate with the feds.

397
00:21:55,716 --> 00:21:57,483
He was murdered the next day.

398
00:21:59,853 --> 00:22:01,622
? The Toronto Tower.

399
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,857
The source of funding
was the Vensheconobank,

400
00:22:05,892 --> 00:22:10,764
the two twin cash management
tools of the Kremlin.

401
00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,936
They go out and become
involved in projects

402
00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:19,506
usually because one
man, Vladimir Putin,

403
00:22:19,573 --> 00:22:21,007
tells them to do so.

404
00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:24,778
That would link this project
straight back to the Kremlin.

405
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,049
? I think this is the
tip of the iceberg.

406
00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:33,119
There's been 1.3 trillion
dollars in flight capital

407
00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:35,021
since Putin's become president.

408
00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:39,459
There are over 30 Trump
Towers all over the world.

409
00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:41,928
That means there are
several thousand units.

410
00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:45,065
So many condos that journalists
like me have been unable

411
00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:48,068
to investigate because they
are in Shell companies.

412
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,971
? Shell corporations
where law enforcement

413
00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:52,906
and the public and the
press can go and see

414
00:22:52,973 --> 00:22:54,107
what the name of
the corporation is

415
00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:56,910
but they can't find out
who's really behind it.

416
00:22:56,977 --> 00:22:57,778
What's really going on.

417
00:22:57,844 --> 00:22:59,112
Who's pulling the strings here.

418
00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:01,748
? So a 500 million dollar
condo can change hands

419
00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:02,916
three or four times a year

420
00:23:02,983 --> 00:23:05,118
and you've laundered 20
million dollars or so.

421
00:23:06,887 --> 00:23:08,555
We want to follow the money.

422
00:23:08,622 --> 00:23:10,924
It's clear to me that
a huge amount of it

423
00:23:10,991 --> 00:23:14,861
comes from the Ukraine
Russian energy trade.

424
00:23:14,928 --> 00:23:16,863
? Vladimir Putin particularly

425
00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:19,666
has a strong feeling
about Ukraine.

426
00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:23,537
Ukraine was part of Russia
for many, many years.

427
00:23:23,604 --> 00:23:26,172
He feels that needs
to be restored.

428
00:23:29,009 --> 00:23:30,877
? Putin has worked to undermine

429
00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:33,046
democracies across the globe.

430
00:23:34,314 --> 00:23:37,250
? [Woman] You had a couple of
people running for president.

431
00:23:37,317 --> 00:23:40,821
? Viktor Yanukovich
who appeared to be

432
00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:43,824
more interested in keeping
Ukraine aligned with Russia.

433
00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,159
Significant amounts of
money coming from Russia

434
00:23:46,226 --> 00:23:48,695
into the Yanukovich campaign.

435
00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:52,232
? His competitor on the
other side, Yuschenko,

436
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,935
was a Ukrainian politician.

437
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:59,773
A reputation of being clean
and fair and pro?western.

438
00:24:00,974 --> 00:24:03,910
Yulia Tymoshenko entered
the Yushenko campaign.

439
00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:05,712
She was a politician.

440
00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:07,581
? Tymoshenko, in my experience,

441
00:24:07,648 --> 00:24:09,783
she was by the far the
most effective minister

442
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:11,151
in the Ukrainian cabinet.

443
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:14,220
? Well, I was working for
Senator McCain in 2004.

444
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:15,556
And we visited.

445
00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,858
We met with Yuschenko.

446
00:24:17,924 --> 00:24:20,894
They just said, I'm afraid
they're gonna try to kill him.

447
00:24:20,961 --> 00:24:22,128
Within a matter of months

448
00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:24,531
he had been poisoned
and almost was killed.

449
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:27,200
? A disfiguring poisoning.

450
00:24:27,267 --> 00:24:28,935
It destroyed his looks.

451
00:24:29,002 --> 00:24:31,071
Scarred his face.

452
00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:35,542
? Quite convinced it
was a KGB operation.

453
00:24:35,609 --> 00:24:38,679
? He was off the campaign
trail for about four weeks.

454
00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:40,280
It also had a
second effect, too,

455
00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:42,716
was it really
hardened his resolve.

456
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,003
? And not in the
Soviet Union republic.

457
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:06,673
? [Steven] During the election
there was lots of evidence

458
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:09,042
that something had gone wrong.

459
00:25:12,045 --> 00:25:15,081
? At that time Ukrainian
intelligence agencies

460
00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,751
detected that there were
hackers who actually tried

461
00:25:17,818 --> 00:25:20,621
to break into the central
election commission.

462
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:24,024
So they were trying to change
the results of the votes.

463
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:26,693
? And those parts that
had voted for Yanukovich

464
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,962
turned out in excess
of 100% was reported.

465
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:30,296
? [Reporter] The country's
election commission

466
00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:31,732
ignored reports of fraud

467
00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,936
declaring Kremlin?backed
victory Yanukovich the winner.

468
00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:41,808
? The election was, in the eyes
of most Ukrainians, stolen.

469
00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:50,851
The Ukrainians had enough.

470
00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:53,987
And the Orange Revolution
consisted of people coming out

471
00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,355
to the central Kiev square

472
00:25:55,421 --> 00:25:59,660
and saying, no, we're not
going to accept a bad election.

473
00:26:08,101 --> 00:26:12,606
? The Ukrainian Supreme Court
basically ruled a do over.

474
00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:29,155
? Russia opposed that
idea because they
understood correctly

475
00:26:29,222 --> 00:26:31,057
that if it was done
in a free and fair way

476
00:26:31,124 --> 00:26:33,293
that Mr. Yanukovich
would not win.

477
00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,430
? [Daniel] And Yuschenko
became president.

478
00:26:37,497 --> 00:26:40,233
? [Steven] His prime minister
was Yulia Tymoshenko.

479
00:26:41,902 --> 00:26:44,671
? So this week has
a unique feel to it

480
00:26:44,738 --> 00:26:46,840
as we all have the
profound privilege

481
00:26:46,907 --> 00:26:49,776
of welcoming president
Viktor Yuschenko to??

482
00:26:49,843 --> 00:26:53,013
(audience applauding)

483
00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:58,885
? Protection from the
regime of mobsters

484
00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:00,921
is only a matter
that can cause hope.

485
00:27:01,888 --> 00:27:03,223
We faced a very similar choice.

486
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:06,326
It was not a choice between
the left and the right.

487
00:27:06,392 --> 00:27:10,396
It was the choice
between totalitarian
regime and democracy.

488
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,933
It has betrayed
the future at best.

489
00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:16,169
? [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich
predicted more turmoil ahead.

490
00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:18,038
I am ready to lead, he said.

491
00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:20,774
Yuschenko will find out what
opposition really means.

492
00:27:21,942 --> 00:27:25,245
? Mr. Manafort came
to Ukraine late 2004.

493
00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:28,081
Yanukovich had been
fairly badly discredited.

494
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:38,391
The role that I saw
for Mr. Manafort

495
00:27:38,458 --> 00:27:42,128
was somebody tried to
rehabilitate Mr. Yanukovich.

496
00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:46,232
? Paul Manafort has been a
Washington political consultant

497
00:27:46,299 --> 00:27:48,034
for a long, long time.

498
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:51,104
? [Reporter] Paul Manafort,
a top campaign strategist

499
00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:52,272
for President Bush.

500
00:27:58,011 --> 00:28:00,280
? [Woman] Bob Dole was the
last one who brought him on

501
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,382
as the head of the
convention at that point.

502
00:28:02,448 --> 00:28:04,284
? We are ready, not
only to continue to lead

503
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,286
in the Congress but to
take the White House.

504
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,187
? He had disappeared.

505
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,022
No one knew what he was doing.

506
00:28:14,528 --> 00:28:17,163
? [Greg] It's impossible
that Paul Manafort was not

507
00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:20,166
at least run past the
Russian government

508
00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:23,236
because Manafort was
very close to Yanukovich.

509
00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:25,972
And Yanukovich was so
close to the Kremlin.

510
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,812
? The big switch from western,
the western point of view

511
00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:34,781
was the Munich security
conference speech.

512
00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:39,319
? The United States has
overstepped its national borders

513
00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:40,521
in every way.

514
00:28:40,587 --> 00:28:43,957
Of course such a policy
stimulates an arms race.

515
00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:45,859
No one feels safe.

516
00:28:45,926 --> 00:28:48,228
? Senator Joe Lieberman
and I were sitting

517
00:28:48,294 --> 00:28:51,031
in assigned seats
in the front row.

518
00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:53,567
And he would utter
a phrase in Russian

519
00:28:53,634 --> 00:28:57,303
and after he would say, he'd
look over at the two of us

520
00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:00,473
like that, you know, I said
what is it with this guy?

521
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,276
? I very often.

522
00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:04,377
He repeals by our partners.

523
00:29:04,444 --> 00:29:05,646
The effect that
Russia should play

524
00:29:05,712 --> 00:29:09,082
an increasingly active
role in world affairs.

525
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:11,785
? That was 2007.

526
00:29:13,053 --> 00:29:15,188
Two months later they
did the cyber?attack

527
00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:20,260
on my country because we really
didn't want a Soviet statue

528
00:29:21,528 --> 00:29:23,063
in the middle of town.

529
00:29:24,397 --> 00:29:25,899
We didn't tear it down.

530
00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:27,300
We moved it.

531
00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:30,571
We figured, okay, this is
important for some people.

532
00:29:30,637 --> 00:29:35,075
But even that was sort
of enough of an offense.

533
00:29:35,141 --> 00:29:37,310
(yelling)

534
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,983
The 9th of May with the
day the Russians celebrate

535
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:46,620
the end of World War II no one
could get into any websites

536
00:29:46,687 --> 00:29:51,191
including the banks, any
government sites, news media.

537
00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:53,627
I mean, it's clear they did it.

538
00:29:53,694 --> 00:29:55,996
A year later they
invaded Georgia.

539
00:29:58,298 --> 00:30:00,400
? After the collapse
of the Soviet Union,

540
00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:04,137
Georgia was controlled by
mafias and criminal gangs

541
00:30:04,204 --> 00:30:05,972
that were known
as thieves?in?law.

542
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,911
? Then came the revolution
and Misha Saakashvili

543
00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,245
became their president.

544
00:30:16,382 --> 00:30:19,119
And made, really, very
significant changes

545
00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:21,287
and improvement to the country.

546
00:30:21,354 --> 00:30:23,289
? After years of
the Georgian economy

547
00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:25,959
being a basket case
suddenly starts to roar.

548
00:30:26,026 --> 00:30:29,195
He had a vision of Georgia
in NATO and the EU.

549
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:30,363
The Russians hated it.

550
00:30:31,464 --> 00:30:34,367
? As long as you
have these blocs,

551
00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:36,036
NATO and the European Union,

552
00:30:36,102 --> 00:30:40,140
they're bigger,
richer, stronger, more
powerful than Russia.

553
00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:46,279
But if you reduce them
to their individual parts

554
00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:49,049
each of these countries
is far weaker than Russia.

555
00:30:50,383 --> 00:30:53,654
? They kept provoking the
Georgians more and more

556
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,355
and more and more.

557
00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,057
They wanted a war.

558
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,393
? They started to say the war.

559
00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:04,030
At first he started
to tell it to me.

560
00:31:04,097 --> 00:31:05,431
To some western leaders.

561
00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,304
Looked like the west
was the wandering life,

562
00:31:11,371 --> 00:31:14,207
wanted somewhere and Russians
knew where they were going.

563
00:31:16,643 --> 00:31:18,612
Then we had direct
military attacks.

564
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:24,150
? In the middle of the opening
ceremonies of the Olympics,

565
00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:25,586
the Russians invaded Georgia.

566
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:31,658
(man yelling)

567
00:31:31,725 --> 00:31:35,095
(tanks rapidly firing)

568
00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:36,262
? Wake up, wake up.

569
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,632
We are attacked because
we wanted to be free.

570
00:31:38,699 --> 00:31:40,200
We are attacked
because we wanted

571
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,267
to build genuine democracy.

572
00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:43,637
If Americans and
Europeans don't stand up

573
00:31:43,704 --> 00:31:46,372
for their own values,
for their own principles,

574
00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:48,509
then those principles and
values will be in danger

575
00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:50,744
to the Georgia,
tomorrow elsewhere.

576
00:31:50,811 --> 00:31:52,746
? But the Russians then
spent a lot of time

577
00:31:52,813 --> 00:31:55,649
convincing everyone the
Georgians started the war.

578
00:31:55,716 --> 00:31:57,150
It's Saakashvili's fault.

579
00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:59,452
He was dangerous and a madman.

580
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,522
? Russia has criticized
the western media

581
00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:04,525
for what it's called it's
biosphere on the conflict.

582
00:32:04,591 --> 00:32:06,593
Not all journalists blame
Russia for the conflict.

583
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,994
Alex Jones?

584
00:32:08,061 --> 00:32:10,296
? [Alex] I just hope Russia
keeps troops in Georgia

585
00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:11,732
because the dictator,

586
00:32:11,798 --> 00:32:14,467
and we know he was elected
under fraud there in Georgia

587
00:32:14,535 --> 00:32:16,637
has said that he plans,
he said it last week,

588
00:32:16,703 --> 00:32:18,438
to attack again.

589
00:32:18,505 --> 00:32:21,474
? Allegation that Georgia
would attack Russia

590
00:32:21,542 --> 00:32:25,746
is so foolish and
outrageous and disgraceful.

591
00:32:25,812 --> 00:32:28,081
But it's typical
of Vladimir Putin.

592
00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:31,351
? They did not
achieve the collapse

593
00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:33,086
of the Saakashvili government.

594
00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:35,088
It cost them a lot in respect,

595
00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,157
in international relationships.

596
00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:39,092
And their military
was really exposed

597
00:32:39,159 --> 00:32:41,261
as something weaker
than they all thought.

598
00:32:42,596 --> 00:32:44,698
So there was this whole
portfolio of kind of rethinking

599
00:32:44,765 --> 00:32:47,634
what are the political
warfare tools

600
00:32:47,701 --> 00:32:49,970
that we have that we can use.

601
00:32:51,437 --> 00:32:54,274
? They began to increase
their funding to far right

602
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:58,211
nationalistic white
supremacists political parties.

603
00:32:58,278 --> 00:33:01,682
? In democracies, public
opinion is your battlefield.

604
00:33:01,748 --> 00:33:03,817
It's finding those
affinity groups.

605
00:33:03,884 --> 00:33:05,519
They don't like globalization.

606
00:33:05,586 --> 00:33:07,588
They're very fearful
of immigration.

607
00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:08,421
They're xenophobic.

608
00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:10,791
And that fear is then used

609
00:33:10,857 --> 00:33:13,560
by Russian disinformation
operations to say

610
00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:16,429
you're not being protected
from migration crisis,

611
00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:20,233
from the social changes
that we see around you.

612
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,538
Gazprom and others, they were
purchasing local affiliates

613
00:33:24,605 --> 00:33:27,440
so it looked like less Russian,
had less of a Russian face.

614
00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:31,477
? Gazprom is the world's
largest gas company.

615
00:33:31,545 --> 00:33:36,149
It and its resources
are used to help achieve

616
00:33:36,216 --> 00:33:38,652
the political objectives
of the Russian state.

617
00:33:38,719 --> 00:33:41,555
? When the economics
and the politics combine

618
00:33:41,622 --> 00:33:44,257
in fact the, it's state capture.

619
00:33:44,324 --> 00:33:48,361
The national government
cannot take independent action

620
00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:53,433
that does not follow
Russia's policy interests.

621
00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:55,902
? It's far better to
expend your energy

622
00:33:55,969 --> 00:33:59,673
on getting a Russia
friendly government elected

623
00:33:59,740 --> 00:34:01,708
than it is to have to
build up your military

624
00:34:01,775 --> 00:34:03,409
to invade the country.

625
00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:07,480
? There was the Russian
oligarchy, Ivanishvili,

626
00:34:07,548 --> 00:34:10,450
who was biggest private
shareholder of Russia Gazprom.

627
00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:14,621
Suddenly Ivanishvili announced
that he was entering politics

628
00:34:14,688 --> 00:34:16,356
and he will run against us.

629
00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:17,691
? They wanted to believe

630
00:34:17,758 --> 00:34:21,294
that he was this independent
weirdo businessman.

631
00:34:21,361 --> 00:34:23,229
He must be a very
successful man.

632
00:34:23,296 --> 00:34:25,666
Nobody wanted to believe
he was what he is,

633
00:34:25,732 --> 00:34:29,770
a front for Russian
engagement in the country.

634
00:34:29,836 --> 00:34:32,506
The campaign in Georgia
before the 2012 election

635
00:34:32,573 --> 00:34:35,676
had been increasingly dirty
and hostile and violent.

636
00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:38,378
? So the narrative
was that no matter

637
00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:41,147
what you will falsify,
rig the elections.

638
00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:43,517
And then they would
take it to the streets.

639
00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:44,685
? There was a lot of discussion

640
00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:46,386
about political prosecution.

641
00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:47,854
If they won they would have put

642
00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:50,156
the entire former
government in prison,

643
00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:51,257
that these were all criminal.

644
00:34:51,324 --> 00:34:52,859
Some of it was
really cheap stuff.

645
00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,695
Saakashvili is
really an Armenian.

646
00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,530
He's not really a Georgian.

647
00:34:58,699 --> 00:35:00,601
? That's a technique the
Russians use quite a bit.

648
00:35:00,667 --> 00:35:02,202
The best way to
discredit somebody

649
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:03,837
is to make them
appear inauthentic.

650
00:35:03,904 --> 00:35:06,840
They're not part of
the community which
they say they are.

651
00:35:06,907 --> 00:35:08,609
? Then it's picked
up by other media.

652
00:35:08,675 --> 00:35:10,644
It's sort of spread
about social media.

653
00:35:11,845 --> 00:35:14,380
Eventually people sort of say
some of this must be true.

654
00:35:16,683 --> 00:35:18,952
? Mafia bosses, (speaking in
foreign language) from Russia

655
00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:21,855
try to help to organize
mass disturbances.

656
00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:26,392
They listened to our
telephone conversations,

657
00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:28,595
especially when we were
calling from abroad.

658
00:35:30,697 --> 00:35:33,266
For whatever similar situation
would ignite in Georgia

659
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:36,603
they always had intercepts
for all kind of situations.

660
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:38,739
? No party in Georgia
could have been

661
00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:40,674
in a real popular
way for Russian.

662
00:35:40,741 --> 00:35:42,275
And Ivanishvili knew that.

663
00:35:42,342 --> 00:35:43,677
So you had a new
message on Russia.

664
00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,546
It was wouldn't it be nice

665
00:35:45,612 --> 00:35:47,814
if we had a better
relationship with Russia?

666
00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:56,790
? About two weeks
before the vote,

667
00:35:56,857 --> 00:35:58,592
there was the
release of the first

668
00:35:58,659 --> 00:36:01,695
of what became known as
the prison abuse tapes.

669
00:36:01,762 --> 00:36:03,730
? The images looked very bad.

670
00:36:03,797 --> 00:36:06,366
After initial shock, people
started to look at the image.

671
00:36:06,432 --> 00:36:10,303
In details they explain to us
that the whole thing was fake.

672
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:12,839
Later we discovered that
this thing was done by guys

673
00:36:12,906 --> 00:36:16,309
with very well?known Russian
intelligence connections.

674
00:36:16,376 --> 00:36:17,778
But it was too late.

675
00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:19,746
? [Reporter] On Tuesday
President Saakashvili

676
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:23,483
conceded he lost the closely
fought parliamentary vote.

677
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:26,687
? 65 or so former officials
have been arrested,

678
00:36:26,753 --> 00:36:28,288
detained, or convicted.

679
00:36:29,756 --> 00:36:31,858
Saakashvili will be arrested
if he goes back to Georgia.

680
00:36:40,801 --> 00:36:42,736
? And then you saw the
allowing of Russian money

681
00:36:42,803 --> 00:36:44,671
back into Georgia's
full society.

682
00:36:44,738 --> 00:36:47,741
? We are returning Georgia
product to the Russian market.

683
00:36:47,808 --> 00:36:49,342
? His wealth and his fortune

684
00:36:49,409 --> 00:36:51,745
are all connected
to the Kremlin.

685
00:36:51,812 --> 00:36:54,981
That means he can never be
independent of what they want.

686
00:36:55,048 --> 00:36:57,751
? Putin had told the
National Security Council

687
00:36:57,818 --> 00:36:59,686
that Georgian elections
were the most successful

688
00:36:59,753 --> 00:37:01,888
special operation they ever had.

689
00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:06,660
They learned that
any democratic system

690
00:37:06,727 --> 00:37:10,063
is essentially very vulnerable
to this kind of meddling.

691
00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:12,699
Full corruption,
information campaigns,

692
00:37:12,766 --> 00:37:14,668
character destructions,

693
00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:17,704
and then your adversary's
much more vulnerable.

694
00:37:17,771 --> 00:37:20,507
Then it's nothing about their
economy size or military size.

695
00:37:20,574 --> 00:37:21,908
It's about their state of mind.

696
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,482
? In Ukraine Putin
did the same thing.

697
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:33,987
? Ukraine is about
100% dependent on
Russia for natural gas.

698
00:37:34,054 --> 00:37:36,823
? Instead of there being
direct sales from Gazprom

699
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:40,460
there were a whole series
of intermediary companies

700
00:37:40,527 --> 00:37:43,830
which seemed to be controlled
by a man named Dmitry Firtash.

701
00:37:47,601 --> 00:37:50,604
Dmitry Firtash, a
Pro?Putin oligarch.

702
00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:55,609
He had worked with
Mogilevich, the crime boss.

703
00:37:55,676 --> 00:37:58,845
They siphon off lots of
money from this Gazprom.

704
00:37:58,912 --> 00:38:00,246
Billions of dollars.

705
00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:03,650
? [Michael] Firtash was very
close to Vladimir Putin.

706
00:38:03,717 --> 00:38:08,021
Paul Manafort was a
business partner of Firtash.

707
00:38:08,088 --> 00:38:09,222
? Ukrainian politicians.

708
00:38:09,289 --> 00:38:12,392
It was all just whisper
the name Paul Manafort.

709
00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:16,496
He was the dark prince
in the background,

710
00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:18,565
orchestrating everything.

711
00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:24,004
He was viewed as a man
who was the connection

712
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:27,808
between the Kremlin and
pro?Russian party in Ukraine

713
00:38:27,874 --> 00:38:31,377
to advance Russian
political interests.

714
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:36,850
? Russia was buying
up utilities.

715
00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:39,586
The oligarchs were
doing Putin's bidding.

716
00:38:39,653 --> 00:38:41,955
It cut off Ukraine's
energy supply.

717
00:38:45,726 --> 00:38:46,993
? It's really a terrible thing

718
00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:48,962
if someone is killed by a bullet

719
00:38:49,029 --> 00:38:51,632
but isn't it terrible
if you shut down

720
00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:52,899
the power in the winter?

721
00:38:53,934 --> 00:38:56,737
? In 2009, after about two weeks

722
00:38:56,803 --> 00:38:57,838
meeting with President Putin,

723
00:38:57,904 --> 00:39:01,007
Prime Minster Tymoshenko
negotiated a deal

724
00:39:01,074 --> 00:39:03,544
that ended the gas cutoff.

725
00:39:05,045 --> 00:39:06,613
? [Reporter] The
presidential elections

726
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,915
head for a pulsating climax.

727
00:39:08,982 --> 00:39:10,416
In the orange corner

728
00:39:10,483 --> 00:39:13,887
the current poor western prime
minister, Yulia Tymoshenko.

729
00:39:14,888 --> 00:39:16,156
In the blue corner,

730
00:39:16,222 --> 00:39:19,459
pro?Moscow opposition
leader Viktor Yanukovich.

731
00:39:19,526 --> 00:39:20,761
? [Reporter]
Manafort was remaking

732
00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:23,664
Yanukovych's overall
appearance and personality

733
00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:25,932
as a politician to make
him more palatable.

734
00:39:29,169 --> 00:39:31,104
? [Reporter] When he
said no to a TV debate,

735
00:39:31,171 --> 00:39:34,374
she went ahead with it anyway
facing an empty podium.

736
00:39:52,826 --> 00:39:54,928
? [Reporter] Viktor
Yanukovich claimed victory

737
00:39:54,995 --> 00:39:57,497
in the Ukraine
presidential election.

738
00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:04,538
? Once Viktor Yanukovich
had become president

739
00:40:04,605 --> 00:40:05,972
one of the things
they were trying

740
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,642
to go after Tymoshenko
for was, in fact,

741
00:40:08,709 --> 00:40:10,711
that gas arrangement
she had done.

742
00:40:10,777 --> 00:40:11,878
? [Reporter] She
compared the case

743
00:40:11,945 --> 00:40:14,047
to a Stalinist show trial.

744
00:40:14,114 --> 00:40:16,249
? [Reporter] All this
was staged in advance

745
00:40:16,316 --> 00:40:18,118
of the president's
administration

746
00:40:18,184 --> 00:40:19,520
to eliminate the opposition.

747
00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:23,156
? It may have been a bad
deal but it certainly wasn't

748
00:40:23,223 --> 00:40:26,059
the criminal action that
the Ukrainian government

749
00:40:26,126 --> 00:40:28,094
under Yanukovich
charged her with.

750
00:40:35,035 --> 00:40:36,870
? [Reporter] A seven year
prison term and an order

751
00:40:36,937 --> 00:40:40,040
that she pay 200 million
dollars in compensation.

752
00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,523
? [Reporter] From
prison, Tymoshenko staged

753
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:57,958
a temporary hunger strike

754
00:40:58,024 --> 00:40:59,826
saying she'd been
beaten by guards

755
00:40:59,893 --> 00:41:01,828
and needed immediate
medical attention.

756
00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:11,437
? In a lawsuit that was filed

757
00:41:11,505 --> 00:41:13,974
by the former prime
minister of Ukraine,

758
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,011
there were some rather
striking court documents

759
00:41:19,913 --> 00:41:22,716
referring to Manafort's role,

760
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,287
and including his
business relationships,

761
00:41:27,353 --> 00:41:32,559
real estate deals with a Russian
oligarch, Dmitry Firtash.

762
00:41:33,627 --> 00:41:35,896
Paul Manafort was in business

763
00:41:35,962 --> 00:41:40,967
with not one but two
Russian oligarchs.

764
00:41:42,002 --> 00:41:44,938
Dmitry Firtash, who
was under indictment

765
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:46,673
by the U. S. Justice Department.

766
00:41:51,878 --> 00:41:55,181
Another, Deripaska, who
had been denied entry

767
00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:56,416
into the United States

768
00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:59,019
because of suspected
organized crime ties.

769
00:42:00,186 --> 00:42:04,024
? Paul Manafort signed a
contract with Oleg Derispaska

770
00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:07,227
to promote the Kremlin and
the Kremlin's interests.

771
00:42:09,996 --> 00:42:14,701
Quoting Deripaska, Putin
told him Manafort's our man.

772
00:42:21,007 --> 00:42:24,811
? Paul Manafort got his home
in Trump Towers in 2006.

773
00:42:27,113 --> 00:42:30,884
You can easily see billions
of dollars being siphoned off

774
00:42:30,951 --> 00:42:33,854
from that Ukraine
Russian energy trade

775
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,323
and going through
Firtash to Paul Manafort

776
00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:40,661
and to Russians or Ukrainians
who were buying condos

777
00:42:40,727 --> 00:42:42,295
in Trump?branded properties.

778
00:42:48,368 --> 00:42:50,904
? Russia has three main
tactics for engaging

779
00:42:50,971 --> 00:42:52,739
in what we call active measures.

780
00:42:52,806 --> 00:42:55,041
Propaganda, cyber?attacks.

781
00:42:55,108 --> 00:42:57,010
Most people don't
focus on a third pillar

782
00:42:57,077 --> 00:43:00,146
of Russian active measures
which is to recruit and enlist

783
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:03,349
and in some cases run
agents of influence.

784
00:43:08,221 --> 00:43:09,255
? The Russians, with their

785
00:43:09,322 --> 00:43:12,192
full?time intelligence
operatives.

786
00:43:13,393 --> 00:43:16,797
There's probably way
over 1,000 of those

787
00:43:16,863 --> 00:43:18,364
in the United States.

788
00:43:18,431 --> 00:43:20,701
? The FBI does its best to try

789
00:43:20,767 --> 00:43:23,436
to monitor Russian
intelligence officers

790
00:43:23,504 --> 00:43:26,807
here in the United States
but there are so many of them

791
00:43:26,873 --> 00:43:30,176
and frankly the FBI's
resources are so limited.

792
00:43:30,243 --> 00:43:35,248
? When I did cases I actually
had to decide on which days

793
00:43:36,449 --> 00:43:40,754
I wanted the FBI surveillance
group to watch my target.

794
00:43:43,824 --> 00:43:45,025
? We had no idea.

795
00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:47,828
They just seemed like
a nice, quiet family.

796
00:43:49,395 --> 00:43:53,834
? If you look at either as
Russian agents or as Russians

797
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:58,071
who work on disinformation
there are more of them

798
00:43:58,138 --> 00:44:00,240
than there are Russians
in the armed forces.

799
00:44:01,274 --> 00:44:04,277
So a thousand. (laughs)

800
00:44:04,344 --> 00:44:06,079
? These can be
individuals who know

801
00:44:06,146 --> 00:44:08,849
that they are spying for
Russian intelligence.

802
00:44:08,915 --> 00:44:10,817
Know that they are
committing espionage.

803
00:44:10,884 --> 00:44:14,487
Or can refer to some
individuals who just aren't sure

804
00:44:14,555 --> 00:44:16,322
exactly who they're
dealing with.

805
00:44:16,389 --> 00:44:20,160
Maybe it's bankers,
maybe its financiers.

806
00:44:20,226 --> 00:44:22,328
Maybe it's people on the
periphery of government

807
00:44:22,395 --> 00:44:26,867
doing something that the
Russian government wants.

808
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,802
? It seems that
anybody who was anybody

809
00:44:28,869 --> 00:44:32,072
in Russian organized crime
who came to Manhattan

810
00:44:32,138 --> 00:44:34,240
bought a condo unit
in Trump tower.

811
00:44:34,307 --> 00:44:37,110
There were gambling
operations going on there

812
00:44:37,177 --> 00:44:39,746
and prostitution operations.

813
00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:42,148
These investigations
were leading to Trump

814
00:44:42,215 --> 00:44:43,449
over and over and over again.

815
00:44:45,218 --> 00:44:48,321
? Christopher Steele is a
former MI6 specialist in Russia.

816
00:44:48,388 --> 00:44:51,457
The U. S. investigator firm
commissioned Mr. Steele

817
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:55,161
to look at Mr. Trump and Russia.

818
00:44:55,228 --> 00:44:56,630
It was a very general assignment

819
00:44:56,697 --> 00:44:59,766
and he found an extensive
set of relations with Russia.

820
00:45:02,368 --> 00:45:05,005
? [Scott] He was generally
held in very high regard.

821
00:45:05,071 --> 00:45:08,208
Had a reputation of also
for working with the FBI.

822
00:45:08,274 --> 00:45:11,044
? He helped the FBI
make the FIFA cases.

823
00:45:12,212 --> 00:45:13,146
? [Reporter] Major
corruption crackdown

824
00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:14,881
going down right now.

825
00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:16,149
Arrests made around the world.

826
00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:17,317
? [Reporter] This is the result

827
00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:19,185
of a three year long
FBI investigation.

828
00:45:19,252 --> 00:45:20,386
? He broke the case.

829
00:45:20,453 --> 00:45:24,290
He gave them access
to the key witnesses

830
00:45:24,357 --> 00:45:27,293
that they used to get the
pretty spectacular results

831
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,295
that they ultimately got.

832
00:45:30,531 --> 00:45:34,167
? Alexander Litvinenko,
who's a former FSB agent.

833
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:39,239
When he sought asylum in London
he started working for MI6.

834
00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:42,275
His handler was
Christopher Steele.

835
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:46,580
He was trying to expose
that Vladimir Putin

836
00:45:46,647 --> 00:45:49,249
was closely linked
to Semion Mogilevich,

837
00:45:49,315 --> 00:45:52,152
the crime boss of Russia.

838
00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:55,288
Litvinenko was eventually
poisoned by polonium

839
00:45:55,355 --> 00:45:59,025
in a murder that was very
directly linked to Russia.

840
00:46:00,426 --> 00:46:03,964
So when Mr. Steele was
hired to do oppo research

841
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:08,301
on Donald Trump he was very,
very knowledgeable indeed.

842
00:46:09,603 --> 00:46:13,306
? The Steele Dossier
was a set of reports

843
00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:15,075
that Mr. Steele wrote.

844
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:22,215
? All of its allegations fall
into one of three categories.

845
00:46:25,151 --> 00:46:30,156
Not yet proven, proven to
be true, and have an error

846
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:39,533
that is consistent
with transcription

847
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,135
or transliteration problems.

848
00:46:42,202 --> 00:46:45,305
? It was said to
Mr. Steele's sources

849
00:46:45,371 --> 00:46:50,043
that Russia had turned Mr.
Trump for many, many years.

850
00:46:51,945 --> 00:46:53,346
In the course of work
on Russia matters,

851
00:46:53,413 --> 00:46:55,348
I came to know Mr. Steele.

852
00:46:55,415 --> 00:46:58,619
I work with people
who I can trust.

853
00:46:58,685 --> 00:46:59,986
Yes, I trusted Chris Steele.

854
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:01,988
I still trust Chris Steele.

855
00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:03,123
? Look at Putin what
he's doing with,

856
00:47:03,189 --> 00:47:05,225
I mean, you know, what's
going on over there.

857
00:47:05,291 --> 00:47:06,392
I mean, this guy has done,

858
00:47:06,459 --> 00:47:09,195
whether you like him
or don't like him

859
00:47:09,262 --> 00:47:13,033
he's doing a great job in
rebuilding the image of Russia.

860
00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:15,435
And also rebuilding
Russia period.

861
00:47:15,501 --> 00:47:19,906
? Putin seeks the veneer
of democratic legitimacy

862
00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:22,342
but there cannot be choice.

863
00:47:22,408 --> 00:47:25,178
In the Russian
constitution you cannot run

864
00:47:25,245 --> 00:47:26,947
for a third term as president.

865
00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:30,450
So what he did was to
find a very close member

866
00:47:30,517 --> 00:47:33,987
of his inner circle to
agree to be president

867
00:47:34,054 --> 00:47:35,255
while he could be prime minster.

868
00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:43,463
? He is someone who is obviously
being installed by Putin

869
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:48,301
and it raises serious
issues about how we're going

870
00:47:48,368 --> 00:47:50,103
to deal with Russia
going forward.

871
00:47:51,572 --> 00:47:55,041
? Putin faces what I call
the King Lear problem.

872
00:47:55,108 --> 00:47:58,411
You can't resign to
a comfortable life

873
00:47:58,478 --> 00:48:02,182
because of the things you've
done when you were king.

874
00:48:02,248 --> 00:48:06,119
But the constitutional
forms were observed.

875
00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:18,565
? When Putin returned
to the presidency,

876
00:48:18,632 --> 00:48:19,933
by that point I
think it was about

877
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,368
to the least surprising
development that any of us

878
00:48:22,435 --> 00:48:24,337
had seen in Russia
in a long time.

879
00:48:24,404 --> 00:48:26,406
? I mean, you can imagine
the conversation with Putin.

880
00:48:26,472 --> 00:48:27,508
Vladimir.

881
00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:29,776
You think you'd like
to be president again?

882
00:48:29,843 --> 00:48:33,647
I think I would.
(audience laughs)

883
00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:43,524
? The election was clearly
unfair and illegitimate.

884
00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,459
I said that on behalf
of the United States.

885
00:48:46,527 --> 00:48:49,996
We just witnessed a flawed
duma election in Russia

886
00:48:50,063 --> 00:48:54,467
including efforts to halt
the election monitoring.

887
00:48:54,535 --> 00:48:57,003
And Russian voters deserve
a full investigation

888
00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:59,640
of electoral fraud
and manipulation.

889
00:48:59,706 --> 00:49:01,975
I wasn't the only
person who thought that.

890
00:49:05,512 --> 00:49:09,082
? [Heather] He encountered the
largest public demonstrations

891
00:49:09,149 --> 00:49:10,517
of his tenure.

892
00:49:10,584 --> 00:49:12,786
(shouting in foreign language)

893
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:14,721
? [Man] They shouted
Putin is a thief.

894
00:49:14,788 --> 00:49:17,524
? Which terrified him because
of the Orange Revolution.

895
00:49:19,092 --> 00:49:22,395
Because of the uprisings
that took place

896
00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:25,298
post collapse of
the Soviet Union

897
00:49:25,365 --> 00:49:27,768
in places that
wanted more than just

898
00:49:27,834 --> 00:49:30,436
a different form of autocracy.

899
00:49:30,504 --> 00:49:32,539
? If you look at
the crowds of those

900
00:49:32,606 --> 00:49:33,940
that were in the protest,

901
00:49:34,007 --> 00:49:37,477
I'll bet ya nine out of 10
of them were under age 25.

902
00:49:37,544 --> 00:49:39,479
They don't want that
kind of a government.

903
00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:41,347
They want to be
like the Europeans.

904
00:49:41,414 --> 00:49:43,483
And I think that Vladimir
Putin has not seen

905
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:45,519
the last of these protests.

906
00:49:45,586 --> 00:49:48,288
? And then he attacked
me and accused me

907
00:49:48,354 --> 00:49:50,757
of inciting the demonstrations

908
00:49:50,824 --> 00:49:53,293
that really were grassroots
from the bottom up.

909
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:56,763
? Putin blamed
her very publicly.

910
00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:58,665
Privately he did
too, by the way.

911
00:49:59,666 --> 00:50:01,501
? She set the tone for
some of the activists

912
00:50:01,568 --> 00:50:02,803
inside our country.

913
00:50:02,869 --> 00:50:03,970
Gave them a signal.

914
00:50:04,037 --> 00:50:06,106
They heard this signal
and started active work

915
00:50:06,172 --> 00:50:09,175
in support of the
U. S. State Department.

916
00:50:09,242 --> 00:50:12,546
? I suspect that
Putin, like Stalin,

917
00:50:12,613 --> 00:50:16,116
read every one else
by his own measure.

918
00:50:17,551 --> 00:50:20,453
And being a cynical person,
understanding only power,

919
00:50:20,521 --> 00:50:24,090
he probably assumed that
we were equally cynical

920
00:50:24,157 --> 00:50:26,560
and our protestations
of support for democracy

921
00:50:26,627 --> 00:50:28,094
were meaningless fluff.

922
00:50:30,196 --> 00:50:33,466
So that he sees our
actions in Russia

923
00:50:33,534 --> 00:50:35,569
as designed to undermine him.

924
00:50:35,636 --> 00:50:38,238
And he looks at all the
democratic activists

925
00:50:38,304 --> 00:50:41,207
as somehow somebody
else's puppet.

926
00:50:41,274 --> 00:50:45,512
Hillary Clinton is doing this
or Condi Rice is doing this.

927
00:50:45,579 --> 00:50:48,615
? It's not that he
believes everything

928
00:50:48,682 --> 00:50:52,819
but there is a kind of a
grounding in his KGB training

929
00:50:52,886 --> 00:50:54,655
because, remember,
during the Cold War

930
00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:58,424
they would fund some
firebrand in some country

931
00:50:58,491 --> 00:51:02,128
to became allied with
them and we would go in

932
00:51:02,195 --> 00:51:04,831
and try to undercut that
person and visa versa.

933
00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:08,434
But a lot of it is just to
keep people in Russia in line.

934
00:51:08,501 --> 00:51:13,507
My experience with him was
difficult and challenging

935
00:51:14,374 --> 00:51:16,643
because I challenged him.

936
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:18,645
? It's better not
to argue with women.

937
00:51:18,712 --> 00:51:20,714
But Mrs. Clinton has
never been too graceful

938
00:51:20,781 --> 00:51:22,115
in her statements.

939
00:51:22,182 --> 00:51:25,151
When people push boundaries
too far it's not because

940
00:51:25,218 --> 00:51:27,621
they are strong but
because they are weak.

941
00:51:27,688 --> 00:51:30,924
But maybe weakness is not the
right quality for a woman.

942
00:51:30,991 --> 00:51:32,392
? In meetings that
I've had with him,

943
00:51:32,458 --> 00:51:36,730
he is in a very calculated
way trying to gain advantage,

944
00:51:36,797 --> 00:51:39,700
looking at you with
disdain and contempt.

945
00:51:39,766 --> 00:51:41,101
The bored kid in school.

946
00:51:41,167 --> 00:51:43,904
When the cameras are on he will
criticize the United States.

947
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:45,038
When the cameras are gone,

948
00:51:45,105 --> 00:51:47,674
he'll act like he's
willing to talk to you.

949
00:51:47,741 --> 00:51:48,575
He's into man spreading.

950
00:51:48,642 --> 00:51:50,443
You know what that is, right.

951
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,550
? Putin never really developed
a working relationship

952
00:51:56,617 --> 00:51:58,351
with secretary Clinton.

953
00:51:58,418 --> 00:52:03,323
He became very upset about
what she said in December, 2011

954
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:05,792
and was looking for revenge.

955
00:52:05,859 --> 00:52:08,629
? If you can use and capture
elite in specific ways

956
00:52:08,695 --> 00:52:09,796
you can accomplish your goals

957
00:52:09,863 --> 00:52:12,498
without needing to
get public support.

958
00:52:12,566 --> 00:52:14,300
The recruiting tool was money.

959
00:52:14,367 --> 00:52:17,237
? You see just so much
money flowing to Trump.

960
00:52:23,409 --> 00:52:25,946
It's hard to imagine
there's not more to it

961
00:52:26,012 --> 00:52:29,315
than just simple
generosity. (chuckles)

962
00:52:29,382 --> 00:52:33,654
? All his American banks
cut their lines of credit.

963
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,055
Stopped doing business with him

964
00:52:35,121 --> 00:52:40,426
and one bank steps into the
breach as his lender of choice.

965
00:52:41,427 --> 00:52:42,796
And that's Deutsche bank.

966
00:52:44,865 --> 00:52:47,300
? From the perspective
of most western bankers

967
00:52:47,367 --> 00:52:49,670
that was just seen as insane.

968
00:52:49,736 --> 00:52:50,871
? He's had a history

969
00:52:50,937 --> 00:52:53,406
of making misleading
statements to them.

970
00:52:53,473 --> 00:52:54,274
Threatening them.

971
00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:56,510
They call and he sues them.

972
00:52:56,577 --> 00:52:57,911
He fails to pay the loan.

973
00:52:57,978 --> 00:53:01,314
He publicly criticizes
Deutsche Bank about all this.

974
00:53:01,381 --> 00:53:06,252
But Deutsche bank sticks
with him loyally throughout.

975
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,023
Not only that they
also start making loans

976
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:12,526
to his son?in?law,
Jared Kushner.

977
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:16,630
? Deutsche Bank has
been fined before

978
00:53:16,697 --> 00:53:19,399
for participating in
Russian money laundering.

979
00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:22,803
? [Reporter] The German bank
says it's willing to pay

980
00:53:22,869 --> 00:53:26,439
over 600 million dollars in
fines for its connections

981
00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,308
to alleged Russian
money laundering.

982
00:53:29,643 --> 00:53:31,344
? When the scandal
erupted that Deutsche Bank

983
00:53:31,411 --> 00:53:33,614
about these money
laundering operations,

984
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,383
the Deutsche bank CEO was fired.

985
00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:40,320
He became the CEO of
the bank of Cyprus.

986
00:53:40,386 --> 00:53:43,924
? One of the
financial institutions

987
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:46,727
through which they
launder money.

988
00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:50,564
? [Scott] Who hired him to be
the CEO of the Bank of Cyprus?

989
00:53:50,631 --> 00:53:55,068
Wilbur Ross, tight
supporter of Donald Trump,

990
00:53:55,135 --> 00:53:57,838
now his Secretary of Commerce.

991
00:53:57,904 --> 00:54:01,742
? The practice of overpaying
significantly is something

992
00:54:01,808 --> 00:54:05,546
that falls into the
category of Russian methods.

993
00:54:05,612 --> 00:54:06,747
? [Scott] The man known

994
00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:08,882
as the Russian potash
king, Rybolovlev,

995
00:54:08,949 --> 00:54:12,519
purchases a property
for more than twice

996
00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:14,621
what Trump had paid for it.

997
00:54:15,756 --> 00:54:17,457
? That's when our
country was going through

998
00:54:17,524 --> 00:54:20,326
a financial collapse
that largely was caused

999
00:54:20,393 --> 00:54:22,629
by the real estate market.

1000
00:54:22,696 --> 00:54:26,900
Did he overpay because Mr. Trump
was such a great negotiator

1001
00:54:26,967 --> 00:54:29,335
or was there something
else going on?

1002
00:54:29,402 --> 00:54:30,771
? Never does anything
with the property.

1003
00:54:30,837 --> 00:54:34,641
So the property transaction
appears to be nothing more

1004
00:54:34,708 --> 00:54:38,444
than cover for infusing a
cool 100 million dollars

1005
00:54:38,512 --> 00:54:41,014
into Trump's bank accounts.

1006
00:54:41,081 --> 00:54:45,752
This same Rybolovlev is
also a principal owner

1007
00:54:45,819 --> 00:54:48,655
with Wilbur Ross of
the bank of Cyprus.

1008
00:54:49,823 --> 00:54:53,026
? In 2013 there was
a bust at Trump Tower

1009
00:54:53,093 --> 00:54:55,461
of a massive gambling ring.

1010
00:54:55,529 --> 00:54:58,632
It was run by a gun
named Taiwanchic.

1011
00:54:58,699 --> 00:55:02,035
He has been tied to the Russia
crime boss Simeon Mogilevich.

1012
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:06,740
29 people were indicted but
Taiwanchic fled to Russia.

1013
00:55:09,976 --> 00:55:12,879
? [Craig] Taiwanchic
appeared again that year,

1014
00:55:12,946 --> 00:55:15,749
oddly enough, at the
Miss Universe pageant

1015
00:55:15,816 --> 00:55:19,920
that Donald Trump was
doing with Aras Agalarov.

1016
00:55:19,986 --> 00:55:22,455
? [Michael] Billionaire
oligarch who was known

1017
00:55:22,523 --> 00:55:24,390
actually as Putin's builder

1018
00:55:24,457 --> 00:55:27,794
because he had done massive
construction projects

1019
00:55:27,861 --> 00:55:31,665
for the Kremlin and
gotten a big award

1020
00:55:31,732 --> 00:55:34,000
personally delivered by Putin.

1021
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,106
? Donald Trump chose Moscow

1022
00:55:40,173 --> 00:55:42,609
as the place to
have Miss Universe.

1023
00:55:42,676 --> 00:55:44,911
I think it would be important
for us to understand

1024
00:55:44,978 --> 00:55:48,414
just who he met with
while he was on that trip.

1025
00:55:48,481 --> 00:55:51,051
Whether he talked
to Vladimir Putin.

1026
00:55:53,987 --> 00:55:55,856
? There was a luncheon with

1027
00:55:55,922 --> 00:55:59,526
a lot of Russian business
leaders in which Trump spoke

1028
00:55:59,593 --> 00:56:02,896
and the birthday party
for Aras Agalarov.

1029
00:56:03,864 --> 00:56:06,800
? [Scott] He even
appears in the scion

1030
00:56:06,867 --> 00:56:09,870
of the Agalarov
family music video.

1031
00:56:09,936 --> 00:56:10,771
? You're fired.
akumenang.com

1032
00:56:20,947 --> 00:56:21,948
? Compromat.

1033
00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:23,984
It's essentially
embarrassing information

1034
00:56:24,050 --> 00:56:26,653
that's going to put you
under somebody else's thumb.

1035
00:56:27,888 --> 00:56:30,223
? Use money, use sex,
use whatever they can

1036
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:31,725
to try to entrap people.

1037
00:56:31,792 --> 00:56:33,794
I mean, that's just a fact.

1038
00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,730
? They don't mind blowing
up their own bribery scheme

1039
00:56:36,797 --> 00:56:41,167
to blackmail an individual and
now they've got that person.

1040
00:56:41,234 --> 00:56:44,237
? There's purely rumors
that on his trips to Moscow

1041
00:56:44,304 --> 00:56:47,608
that Trump was involved
in various sex escapades

1042
00:56:47,674 --> 00:56:49,009
that may have compromised him.

1043
00:56:54,147 --> 00:56:56,883
? [piers] If I can offer you a
check for 10 billion dollars.

1044
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:58,151
? [Trump] Billion.

1045
00:56:58,218 --> 00:56:59,553
? [Piers] But the deal
is you can't have sex

1046
00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:01,988
for the next 10 years.
? Would that include my wife?

1047
00:57:23,644 --> 00:57:27,213
? Sergei Million appears in
connection with Trump's dealings

1048
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,618
in Russia and certainly in
connection with his hotel stays

1049
00:57:31,685 --> 00:57:34,187
and someone who would know an
awful lot about what went on

1050
00:57:34,254 --> 00:57:35,789
during those visits
with meetings

1051
00:57:35,856 --> 00:57:37,190
with prostitutes and so forth.

1052
00:57:37,257 --> 00:57:39,292
? You know, I was in Moscow
a couple of months ago.

1053
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,728
I own the Miss Universe pageant.

1054
00:57:41,795 --> 00:57:43,997
And they treated me so great.

1055
00:57:44,064 --> 00:57:45,198
Putin even sent me a present.

1056
00:57:45,265 --> 00:57:48,168
Beautiful present
with a beautiful note.

1057
00:57:48,234 --> 00:57:52,005
? When you look at Steele's
report information he gives,

1058
00:57:52,973 --> 00:57:56,977
one of those sources
could be Million.

1059
00:57:57,043 --> 00:57:59,613
We don't know that for sure
but the descriptions match.

1060
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,782
? He likes Russia because
there's money to be made there.

1061
00:58:01,848 --> 00:58:05,952
? He likes Russia because he
likes beautiful Russian ladies.

1062
00:58:06,019 --> 00:58:09,656
? But I hear that golden
showers was not the end of it.

1063
00:58:09,723 --> 00:58:12,258
There was much more
extreme sick stuff.

1064
00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:14,995
? He was only there
two days one night.

1065
00:58:15,061 --> 00:58:16,997
He was supposed
to be there longer

1066
00:58:17,063 --> 00:58:21,301
but Billy Graham's
95th birthday party

1067
00:58:21,367 --> 00:58:25,005
was in Asheville,
North Carolina.

1068
00:58:25,071 --> 00:58:27,040
Trump felt the need to go.

1069
00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:28,374
Why?

1070
00:58:28,441 --> 00:58:31,645
Because he's getting ready
to run for president.

1071
00:58:31,712 --> 00:58:35,048
?? Happy birthday to you ??

1072
00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:40,286
? To be honest, the
question was just asked

1073
00:58:40,353 --> 00:58:42,989
or was asked many times today
at the Miss Universe contest.

1074
00:58:43,056 --> 00:58:46,059
They said would you run, and
it's just too soon to say.

1075
00:58:46,126 --> 00:58:48,695
? [Reporter] Do you
have a relationship
with Vladimir Putin,

1076
00:58:48,762 --> 00:58:52,899
a conversational relationship
or anything that you feel

1077
00:58:52,966 --> 00:58:56,269
you have sway or influence
over his government?

1078
00:58:56,336 --> 00:59:00,006
? I do have a relationship
and I can tell you

1079
00:59:00,073 --> 00:59:02,308
that he's very interested in
what we're doing here today.

1080
00:59:02,375 --> 00:59:03,409
He's probably very interested

1081
00:59:03,476 --> 00:59:04,811
in what you and I
are saying today

1082
00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:07,147
and I'm sure he's going to
be seeing it in some form.

1083
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:08,782
But I do have a
relationship with him.

1084
00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:09,950
? About Russia.

1085
00:59:10,016 --> 00:59:12,085
You were asked yesterday
if you've ever spoken

1086
00:59:12,152 --> 00:59:15,922
to Vladimir Putin and you
said I don't want to say.

1087
00:59:15,989 --> 00:59:17,223
? Yeah, I have no
comment on that.

1088
00:59:17,290 --> 00:59:17,924
No comment.

1089
00:59:17,991 --> 00:59:19,092
I was in Russia??

1090
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:20,293
? Well one of the things
people like about you

1091
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,696
is you answer any questions.
? Yeah, but.

1092
00:59:22,763 --> 00:59:24,130
Let's assume I did.

1093
00:59:24,197 --> 00:59:25,932
Perhaps it was personal or,
you know, I don't want to,

1094
00:59:25,999 --> 00:59:28,702
I don't want to
hurt his confidence.

1095
00:59:28,769 --> 00:59:31,137
He's done a very
brilliant job in terms

1096
00:59:31,204 --> 00:59:34,841
of what he represents and
who he's representing.

1097
00:59:38,078 --> 00:59:39,445
? Viktor Yanukovich
had been in talks

1098
00:59:39,513 --> 00:59:42,983
with the European Union about
an association agreement

1099
00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:46,953
but then after a visit to
Moscow and getting the message

1100
00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:50,256
that this was not going
to be seen favorably,

1101
00:59:50,323 --> 00:59:52,258
Yanukovich came back
and decided that

1102
00:59:52,325 --> 00:59:54,695
in fact he was not gonna
pursue this agreement.

1103
00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:57,030
So this square in downtown Kiev,

1104
00:59:57,097 --> 00:59:59,299
protestors went there and
began demanding that, in fact,

1105
00:59:59,365 --> 01:00:00,667
this agreement go into force,

1106
01:00:00,734 --> 01:00:03,670
instead of some alternative
agreement with Russia.

1107
01:00:06,072 --> 01:00:09,676
They protest not just
in favor of an agreement

1108
01:00:09,743 --> 01:00:10,877
with the European Union

1109
01:00:10,944 --> 01:00:13,446
but a protest against
Viktor Yanukovich

1110
01:00:13,514 --> 01:00:16,683
and the way he was running
things at the time.

1111
01:00:18,218 --> 01:00:20,186
? About a week later
the police went in

1112
01:00:20,253 --> 01:00:21,221
and broke up that camp.

1113
01:00:27,127 --> 01:00:30,230
In two hours shed more
blood than had been shed

1114
01:00:30,296 --> 01:00:34,134
during the entire Orange
Revolution back in 2004.

1115
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,368
? And at each turn,

1116
01:00:35,435 --> 01:00:38,138
Yanukovich became more
and more repressive,

1117
01:00:38,204 --> 01:00:39,740
more and more bloodthirsty.

1118
01:00:46,379 --> 01:00:48,181
? You had people
shooting into the crowd.

1119
01:00:48,248 --> 01:00:50,316
In some cases directly
shot to the head

1120
01:00:50,383 --> 01:00:53,219
where like snipers
were shooting at them.

1121
01:00:53,286 --> 01:00:55,756
(guns firing)

1122
01:00:59,192 --> 01:01:02,328
Probably 100, you know,
odd people killed.

1123
01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,306
? He just infuriated and
enraged his entire country.

1124
01:01:25,485 --> 01:01:28,221
? [Reporter] Yanukovich defied
calls for his resignation.

1125
01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:32,258
? I am not going to leave
Ukraine or go anywhere.

1126
01:01:32,325 --> 01:01:34,928
? Yanukovich packed
up in a car and left.

1127
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:41,367
He fled the country and
turned up in Russia.

1128
01:01:43,469 --> 01:01:45,939
? And this is while Manafort
is still advising him.

1129
01:01:46,006 --> 01:01:48,942
? I don't think that Yanukovich
was the pro?Putin person

1130
01:01:49,009 --> 01:01:51,411
that he's reputed to be
and if you look at what??

1131
01:01:51,477 --> 01:01:52,546
? [Charlie] Well, he went off.

1132
01:01:52,613 --> 01:01:54,447
He ended up in Moscow.
? Well, yeah.

1133
01:01:54,515 --> 01:01:56,249
? [Reporter] The ousted
president is wanted

1134
01:01:56,316 --> 01:01:58,084
for mass murder and on the run.

1135
01:01:58,151 --> 01:01:59,485
? So you have the
Ukrainian parliament.

1136
01:01:59,553 --> 01:02:01,087
What do we do?

1137
01:02:01,154 --> 01:02:02,188
? [Reporter] Parliament voted

1138
01:02:02,255 --> 01:02:04,290
to free Yanukovych's
arch nemesis,

1139
01:02:04,357 --> 01:02:06,259
opposition leader
Yulia Tymoshenko.

1140
01:02:08,494 --> 01:02:11,264
? Today you have an open
road to build Ukraine

1141
01:02:11,331 --> 01:02:12,733
the way you want.

1142
01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:15,836
That is why you must stay here
until the person you trust

1143
01:02:15,902 --> 01:02:18,271
is elected in an honest way.

1144
01:02:18,338 --> 01:02:20,974
? My sense is at that point
the Russians panicked.

1145
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,879
The Russians had lying
in a safe somewhere

1146
01:02:25,946 --> 01:02:29,349
the plan how you take Crimea
and they activated that plan.

1147
01:02:33,419 --> 01:02:35,956
Within a couple of
days you saw people

1148
01:02:36,022 --> 01:02:38,124
who were very clearly
professional soldiers.

1149
01:02:38,191 --> 01:02:40,260
They were wearing Russian
style combat fatigues

1150
01:02:40,326 --> 01:02:42,262
but they had no
identifying insignia.

1151
01:02:42,328 --> 01:02:45,298
The Ukrainians referred to these
people as little green men.

1152
01:02:45,365 --> 01:02:48,201
? [Richard] Which were in
fact special operations forces

1153
01:02:48,268 --> 01:02:50,036
and intelligence operatives.

1154
01:02:51,237 --> 01:02:53,373
? We thought this
could be the beginning

1155
01:02:53,439 --> 01:02:56,409
of an outright full scale
invasion of the country.

1156
01:02:58,579 --> 01:03:01,481
That's when the separatists
shot down the Malaysian airliner

1157
01:03:01,548 --> 01:03:04,384
and killed over 100
Dutch passengers.

1158
01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:08,288
? [Richard] Separatists
initially boasted on Twitter

1159
01:03:08,354 --> 01:03:10,490
that they had taken it down.

1160
01:03:10,557 --> 01:03:14,094
? The unforgivable sin
was Putin lying about it.

1161
01:03:15,495 --> 01:03:19,432
Suggesting Ukrainians shot
it down or CIA shot it down.

1162
01:03:19,499 --> 01:03:22,202
Throwing out a bunch of
chafe which was an insult.

1163
01:03:23,436 --> 01:03:26,239
The European Union
had had enough.

1164
01:03:26,306 --> 01:03:29,175
They joined us with
strong sectoral sanctions.

1165
01:03:29,242 --> 01:03:30,977
And that surprised the Russians

1166
01:03:31,044 --> 01:03:33,246
and it hit the
Russian economy hard

1167
01:03:33,313 --> 01:03:36,449
right at the time oil
prices started to tank.

1168
01:03:36,517 --> 01:03:38,218
So they had a double whammy.

1169
01:03:38,284 --> 01:03:39,452
? How do you respond

1170
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,289
to the greatest geo
strategic catastrophe

1171
01:03:43,356 --> 01:03:44,525
of the 20th century,

1172
01:03:44,591 --> 01:03:47,060
which was the collapse
of the Soviet Union?

1173
01:03:47,127 --> 01:03:50,396
You try to preempt the
collapse of the western system

1174
01:03:50,463 --> 01:03:52,098
in the 21st century.

1175
01:03:53,667 --> 01:03:56,937
If you can't destroy these
structures militarily,

1176
01:03:57,003 --> 01:03:59,372
you will destroy
them from within.

1177
01:03:59,439 --> 01:04:02,509
? By actually creating
fissures and exploiting them

1178
01:04:02,576 --> 01:04:05,345
such that it's the
electorate is so divided

1179
01:04:05,411 --> 01:04:08,414
that you don't trust
the government anymore.

1180
01:04:08,481 --> 01:04:10,116
? The foundations of geopolitics

1181
01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,218
is a guiding
principle for Russia.

1182
01:04:12,285 --> 01:04:14,320
It's something that
their militaries

1183
01:04:14,387 --> 01:04:16,690
and intelligence
services have relied upon

1184
01:04:16,757 --> 01:04:18,892
and applied throughout
their campaigns.

1185
01:04:30,737 --> 01:04:34,207
? Russia has helped unite an
alternative right movement.

1186
01:04:34,274 --> 01:04:36,476
? You have certain
voices in the media.

1187
01:04:36,543 --> 01:04:39,479
Info Wars, for example,
Breitbart to capitalize

1188
01:04:39,546 --> 01:04:41,414
on these divisions.

1189
01:04:41,481 --> 01:04:45,451
And then further encourage them
for their own personal gain.

1190
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:47,721
? I'd like to punch him
in the face, I'll tell ya.

1191
01:04:47,788 --> 01:04:50,390
Knock the crap out of
him, would you, seriously.

1192
01:04:51,525 --> 01:04:53,359
That guy looked like
an NFL football player.

1193
01:04:53,426 --> 01:04:54,427
Now, they took him out.

1194
01:04:54,494 --> 01:04:55,295
And I'll tell you what.

1195
01:04:55,361 --> 01:04:57,531
It was really amazing to watch.

1196
01:04:57,598 --> 01:04:58,231
Bye.

1197
01:04:58,298 --> 01:04:59,633
Go home to mommy.

1198
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:02,002
But if we get a little bit
rough in taking them out,

1199
01:05:02,068 --> 01:05:03,469
oh, we're terrible people.

1200
01:05:03,537 --> 01:05:06,239
It's one of the many reasons
our country's going to hell.

1201
01:05:06,306 --> 01:05:08,074
? Certainly this is
all in the interest

1202
01:05:08,141 --> 01:05:10,511
of at least one country.

1203
01:05:10,577 --> 01:05:15,015
? To see this otherwise
rather brazen candidate

1204
01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:21,588
turn into such a sycophant
when the name of Putin

1205
01:05:22,556 --> 01:05:25,626
ever came up rang a
very discordant bell.

1206
01:05:25,692 --> 01:05:28,094
? Putin has done an amazing job

1207
01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:31,264
of showing leadership whether
it's a noble or cause or not.

1208
01:05:31,331 --> 01:05:32,132
Let's not discuss that.

1209
01:05:32,198 --> 01:05:33,499
He is now the world leader.

1210
01:05:33,567 --> 01:05:34,735
I respect Putin.

1211
01:05:34,801 --> 01:05:36,502
He's a strong leader,
I can tell you that.

1212
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:37,337
Unlike what we have.

1213
01:05:37,403 --> 01:05:38,705
We have a pathetic leader.

1214
01:05:38,772 --> 01:05:42,108
I think in terms of
leadership, he's getting an A.

1215
01:05:42,175 --> 01:05:44,177
? As far as an individual

1216
01:05:44,244 --> 01:05:47,413
who poses a threat to
the world literally.

1217
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,517
A person who has
no moral standards

1218
01:05:50,584 --> 01:05:52,485
that I've been able to detect.

1219
01:05:52,553 --> 01:05:54,320
F is not low enough.

1220
01:05:54,387 --> 01:05:56,456
? He was certainly very
vocal about Russia,

1221
01:05:56,523 --> 01:05:57,724
wanting a better relationship.

1222
01:05:57,791 --> 01:05:59,660
? Wouldn't it be a
wonderful thing, frankly,

1223
01:05:59,726 --> 01:06:02,162
if we actually got
along with Russia?

1224
01:06:02,228 --> 01:06:04,030
? Who's against getting
along with people

1225
01:06:04,097 --> 01:06:05,532
but that's not a policy.

1226
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,535
? More noticeable perhaps is
the absence of any criticism.

1227
01:06:08,602 --> 01:06:10,436
? The fact is that, you know,

1228
01:06:10,503 --> 01:06:12,038
he hasn't been
convicted of anything.

1229
01:06:12,105 --> 01:06:13,473
? Some of the
things he was saying

1230
01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:17,578
was actually talking points
that sounded very similar

1231
01:06:17,644 --> 01:06:20,046
to what the Russian
media will put out there.

1232
01:06:20,113 --> 01:06:20,914
? [Reporter] The
fact that Ukraine

1233
01:06:20,981 --> 01:06:22,415
has not published radar data

1234
01:06:22,482 --> 01:06:24,518
leads us to the
conjecture the missiles,

1235
01:06:24,585 --> 01:06:26,653
if it was a buk, was
launched from territory

1236
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,222
under the control of
the Ukrainian military.

1237
01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:31,658
? If it was a Russian made
buk missile that took down

1238
01:06:31,725 --> 01:06:35,428
that plane would you hold
Putin and Russia accountable?

1239
01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:36,663
Would there be sanctions?

1240
01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:38,098
? Well, you know, they
say it wasn't them.

1241
01:06:38,164 --> 01:06:39,800
It may have been their weapon
but they didn't use it.

1242
01:06:39,866 --> 01:06:41,201
They didn't fire it.

1243
01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:43,436
They even said the other
side fired it to blame them.

1244
01:06:43,503 --> 01:06:45,672
? He never provided his
original birth certificate.

1245
01:06:45,739 --> 01:06:50,243
What he provided was a
photoshopped computer image

1246
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:54,080
of something that was
issued only in 2007.

1247
01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:57,651
? A certificate of live birth
is not even signed by anybody.

1248
01:06:57,718 --> 01:06:58,484
I saw his.

1249
01:06:58,552 --> 01:06:59,720
I read it very carefully.

1250
01:06:59,786 --> 01:07:01,588
? They're voting for
peace on planet earth

1251
01:07:01,655 --> 01:07:02,756
if they vote for Trump.

1252
01:07:02,823 --> 01:07:06,326
But if they vote for
Hillary, it's war.

1253
01:07:06,392 --> 01:07:10,263
? Now Hillary Clinton wants to
confront nuclear?armed Russia

1254
01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:13,233
that could very well lead
us into World War III.

1255
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,336
? Mr. McCain was taken
prisoner in Vietnam

1256
01:07:16,402 --> 01:07:19,506
and was put not just
in jail but in a pit.

1257
01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:21,374
He sat there for several years.

1258
01:07:21,441 --> 01:07:23,610
Anyone would go nuts after that.

1259
01:07:23,677 --> 01:07:25,846
? He's a war hero
'cause he was captured.

1260
01:07:25,912 --> 01:07:27,614
I like people that
weren't captured, okay,

1261
01:07:27,681 --> 01:07:28,749
I hate to tell you.

1262
01:07:30,183 --> 01:07:32,452
? Donald Trump delivered a
major foreign policy speech

1263
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:35,622
at the Mayflower Hotel in
Washington on April 27.

1264
01:07:35,689 --> 01:07:37,357
The center for the
national interest,

1265
01:07:37,423 --> 01:07:38,559
this American Think Tank,

1266
01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:41,427
which has very close
ties to the Kremlin.

1267
01:07:41,494 --> 01:07:44,565
This Think Tank
played a leading role

1268
01:07:44,631 --> 01:07:47,701
in drafting Donald
Trump's speech

1269
01:07:47,768 --> 01:07:51,638
and that speech was full
of Russian propaganda.

1270
01:07:51,705 --> 01:07:54,608
? We can upgrade
NATO's outdated mission

1271
01:07:54,675 --> 01:07:57,711
and structure grown
out of the Cold War.

1272
01:07:57,778 --> 01:08:01,582
I am skeptical of
international unions.

1273
01:08:01,648 --> 01:08:03,784
The U. S. must be prepared

1274
01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:07,554
to let these countries
defend themselves.

1275
01:08:07,621 --> 01:08:11,191
Some say the Russians
won't be reasonable.

1276
01:08:11,257 --> 01:08:12,826
I intend to find out.

1277
01:08:15,796 --> 01:08:18,932
? When Paul Manafort became
the actual head of the campaign

1278
01:08:18,999 --> 01:08:20,233
all of a sudden I
had a pop up window

1279
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:23,236
come on my computer
saying that Yahoo believed

1280
01:08:23,303 --> 01:08:26,372
that I was part of an attempt
of state sponsored actors.

1281
01:08:27,307 --> 01:08:29,510
So I was being targeted.

1282
01:08:29,576 --> 01:08:31,177
That was the first time.

1283
01:08:32,679 --> 01:08:36,349
? There was a Russian
campaign to interfere

1284
01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:38,585
in American elections
through hacking.

1285
01:08:38,652 --> 01:08:40,854
That information
appeared in the dossier

1286
01:08:40,921 --> 01:08:44,424
before it was publicly reported
anywhere else, anywhere.

1287
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:45,559
? You saw active measures

1288
01:08:45,626 --> 01:08:48,595
in elections across
eastern Europe.

1289
01:08:48,662 --> 01:08:50,664
No one really thought
that that would happen

1290
01:08:50,731 --> 01:08:53,534
in the U. S. base until it did.

1291
01:08:58,939 --> 01:09:03,644
? I was surprised as everyone
was but looking back on it

1292
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:05,946
with benefit of
hindsight, obviously,

1293
01:09:06,012 --> 01:09:07,548
we should have probably known

1294
01:09:07,614 --> 01:09:10,817
that something like that
was going to happen.

1295
01:09:10,884 --> 01:09:13,486
? Russia is 1.6% of
the world economy.

1296
01:09:16,623 --> 01:09:20,927
They're so small but they
have, they're so centralized.

1297
01:09:24,531 --> 01:09:26,700
And when state concentrates
these resources

1298
01:09:26,767 --> 01:09:30,571
on wanting something
then it works.

1299
01:09:30,637 --> 01:09:33,173
? Russia did a wide
range of hacks.

1300
01:09:34,875 --> 01:09:38,444
Started I would guess around
August, September of 2015,

1301
01:09:38,512 --> 01:09:39,813
extended all the way
through the spring

1302
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,583
and into the summer of 2016.

1303
01:09:42,649 --> 01:09:45,619
We're talking about thousands
of Americans that were hit.

1304
01:09:45,686 --> 01:09:48,589
They were going after anybody
and everybody they could.

1305
01:09:48,655 --> 01:09:51,725
Their targets include media
personalities, politicians,

1306
01:09:51,792 --> 01:09:53,694
government officials,
current and former.

1307
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,797
Anybody that they could gain
what is ultimately information

1308
01:09:56,863 --> 01:09:59,465
or compromat that
they could use.

1309
01:09:59,533 --> 01:10:00,734
That is the nuclear fuel

1310
01:10:00,801 --> 01:10:03,269
that powers the influence
operation in '16.

1311
01:10:03,336 --> 01:10:06,372
? A couple of my
co?workers who had access

1312
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,042
to my personal email used
to manage the volume.

1313
01:10:09,109 --> 01:10:12,345
One of them saw a
phishing attempt

1314
01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:16,517
from a Google source through
some mistake of communication.

1315
01:10:16,583 --> 01:10:20,687
One of our cyber
security experts in
the campaign suggested

1316
01:10:20,754 --> 01:10:23,323
to my assistant that they
change their email account.

1317
01:10:23,389 --> 01:10:27,728
So she clicked on the link
and my private email cache

1318
01:10:27,794 --> 01:10:30,330
was, you know, was exfiltrated.

1319
01:10:33,734 --> 01:10:37,303
? People were seeing this
dangerous troubling activity

1320
01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:39,706
coming from the Russians
that was actually

1321
01:10:39,773 --> 01:10:42,442
in our electoral system.

1322
01:10:42,509 --> 01:10:43,677
? Government officials
learned that they're

1323
01:10:43,744 --> 01:10:48,882
actually going into
state voter databases.

1324
01:10:49,883 --> 01:10:51,785
? There may have been
26 different states

1325
01:10:51,852 --> 01:10:54,054
where there were efforts
made to penetrate.

1326
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,456
That's disturbing.

1327
01:10:56,523 --> 01:11:00,594
The key to flip an election
without leaving a trace

1328
01:11:00,661 --> 01:11:02,796
is the voter rolls.

1329
01:11:02,863 --> 01:11:06,933
? It would only take
a small digital switch

1330
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,835
to make that happen.

1331
01:11:08,902 --> 01:11:13,574
This really spooked
officials in the White House

1332
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,579
and that's the moment I
think that the enormity

1333
01:11:18,645 --> 01:11:21,782
of the Russian
influence campaign

1334
01:11:21,848 --> 01:11:24,618
really started to hit home.

1335
01:11:24,685 --> 01:11:26,953
? The fact that
there was that attack

1336
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:29,956
on the fundamental, the
absolute fundamental

1337
01:11:30,023 --> 01:11:34,460
free and fair election should
have alarmed all of us.

1338
01:11:34,528 --> 01:11:36,730
? The Russians didn't
care if we found out.

1339
01:11:36,797 --> 01:11:37,898
This is pretty new.

1340
01:11:37,964 --> 01:11:39,399
? They stole the data.

1341
01:11:39,465 --> 01:11:40,266
Let's be clear about it.

1342
01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:41,367
I don't like this word hacking.

1343
01:11:41,434 --> 01:11:42,903
This is theft.

1344
01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:45,806
If the Russians walked into my
house and took something out,

1345
01:11:45,872 --> 01:11:47,841
this is exactly the same thing.

1346
01:11:47,908 --> 01:11:50,476
And I think the problem that a
lot of Americans have with it

1347
01:11:50,544 --> 01:11:53,413
is they don't see it, they
don't think of it that way.

1348
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,782
? The goal was
plausible deniability.

1349
01:11:55,849 --> 01:11:58,619
And you hear that even in
Vladimir Putin's statements.

1350
01:11:58,685 --> 01:11:59,753
? If they are patriotic,

1351
01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:01,988
they contribute in a
way they think is right.

1352
01:12:02,055 --> 01:12:05,692
To fight against those who
say bad things about Russia.

1353
01:12:05,759 --> 01:12:07,661
? If there were people
in the Trump Campaign

1354
01:12:07,728 --> 01:12:08,895
who colluded in any of that,

1355
01:12:08,962 --> 01:12:11,732
those people are at
serious criminal risk

1356
01:12:11,798 --> 01:12:16,169
because there were serious
crimes people committed in 2016

1357
01:12:16,236 --> 01:12:18,839
to influence the U. S. elections.

1358
01:12:18,905 --> 01:12:20,173
? Once it looked like Trump

1359
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,943
was gonna be the clear nominee,
the Agalarovs resurfaced

1360
01:12:23,009 --> 01:12:25,746
and they said we are
obviously supportive

1361
01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:27,380
of the Trump Campaign
but more importantly,

1362
01:12:27,447 --> 01:12:29,883
we are doing so with
the blessing of the
Russian government

1363
01:12:29,950 --> 01:12:32,018
and with the Russian
government involved.

1364
01:12:35,021 --> 01:12:37,924
? And they promised there
would be the delivery

1365
01:12:37,991 --> 01:12:41,628
of information that would damage
Hillary Clinton's campaign.

1366
01:12:42,495 --> 01:12:43,564
? [Man] This is information

1367
01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:45,131
the Russian government
has collected.

1368
01:12:48,969 --> 01:12:53,073
? Donald Trump, Jr. emailed
back, great, I love it.

1369
01:12:54,741 --> 01:12:57,110
Here we see what appears to
be evidence of collusion.

1370
01:12:58,845 --> 01:13:02,616
? [Michael] Donald Trump,
Jr. forwarded the emails

1371
01:13:02,683 --> 01:13:04,985
to Paul Manafort, then
the campaign manager,

1372
01:13:05,051 --> 01:13:07,487
and Jared Kushner.

1373
01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,090
They both sat in on the meeting.

1374
01:13:11,224 --> 01:13:13,794
? Conspiracies are very
easy to enter into.

1375
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:16,930
If indeed there was
just a tacit agreement

1376
01:13:16,997 --> 01:13:20,066
furthering that conspiracy,
boy, they're in.

1377
01:13:21,001 --> 01:13:23,069
And they're on the
wrong side of the law.

1378
01:13:25,972 --> 01:13:30,977
? Trump being pressed
early on in the campion

1379
01:13:32,078 --> 01:13:34,014
for a list of his
foreign policy advisors.

1380
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,085
The second name he mentions
is Carter Page, PhD.

1381
01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:41,855
? No one had heard
of Carter Page.

1382
01:13:41,922 --> 01:13:44,257
He had worked for
Merrill Lynch in Moscow.

1383
01:13:44,324 --> 01:13:47,894
? [Michael] He had been
an investor in Gazprom

1384
01:13:47,961 --> 01:13:52,766
and a quite vocal defender
of the Putin government.

1385
01:13:52,833 --> 01:13:55,569
A critic of sanctions.

1386
01:13:55,636 --> 01:13:58,004
? Carter Page traveled
over to Moscow

1387
01:13:58,071 --> 01:14:00,006
with permission of
the Trump campaign

1388
01:14:00,073 --> 01:14:02,075
as a senior advisor
to Donald Trump.

1389
01:14:02,142 --> 01:14:05,178
? Washington and
other western capitals

1390
01:14:05,245 --> 01:14:07,848
have impeded potential progress

1391
01:14:07,914 --> 01:14:11,952
through their often
hypocritical focus on ideas

1392
01:14:12,018 --> 01:14:15,055
such as democratization,
inequality,

1393
01:14:15,121 --> 01:14:16,890
corruption, and regime change.

1394
01:14:16,957 --> 01:14:19,726
? [Craig] The Steele Dossier
alleges that Carter Page

1395
01:14:19,793 --> 01:14:22,763
met with Igor Sechin
who is head of Rozneft,

1396
01:14:22,829 --> 01:14:25,165
the enormous
Russian oil company.

1397
01:14:27,033 --> 01:14:30,203
Sechin happens to be very,
very close to Vladimir Putin.

1398
01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:31,838
? [Scott] Sechin was
his closest friend

1399
01:14:31,905 --> 01:14:33,173
in the intelligence services.

1400
01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:36,009
? They came up with a scheme

1401
01:14:36,076 --> 01:14:39,045
by which sanctions would
be lifted on Russia.

1402
01:14:40,246 --> 01:14:43,884
In return, when parts of
Rozneft were sold off,

1403
01:14:43,950 --> 01:14:47,053
a huge portion of it, I
believe was 19% of it,

1404
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,154
would be diverted.

1405
01:14:50,123 --> 01:14:51,592
? This could have
been another way

1406
01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:55,161
to funnel enormous
cash resources

1407
01:14:55,228 --> 01:14:57,130
to Donald Trump or his family.

1408
01:14:59,866 --> 01:15:03,036
America's European allies
were picking up things

1409
01:15:03,103 --> 01:15:06,940
involving interaction between
the figures associated

1410
01:15:07,007 --> 01:15:11,144
with the Trump Campaign and
Russian agents of influence

1411
01:15:11,211 --> 01:15:13,246
that they were very
disturbed about.

1412
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,030
? When the administration asked
for a bipartisan statement

1413
01:15:30,096 --> 01:15:31,431
saying that Russians were active

1414
01:15:31,497 --> 01:15:33,734
and they were trying to
interfere with the election

1415
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,869
they were blocked by
Republican leadership.

1416
01:15:35,936 --> 01:15:38,672
? When I was working in the
House of Representatives,

1417
01:15:38,739 --> 01:15:41,141
especially as the
Policy Director for
the House Republicans,

1418
01:15:41,207 --> 01:15:43,677
I was part of many discussions.

1419
01:15:43,744 --> 01:15:46,046
One of them was on June 15.

1420
01:15:46,112 --> 01:15:48,749
One of the leaders
speculated that Trump

1421
01:15:48,815 --> 01:15:51,217
had a compromising
relationship with Putin,

1422
01:15:54,187 --> 01:15:56,322
a very serious
allegation to make

1423
01:15:56,389 --> 01:15:59,225
but it was one that
everyone was thinking.

1424
01:16:04,364 --> 01:16:07,033
The leaders were afraid to
stand up to Donald Trump

1425
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:12,105
for fear of being attacked
by his Russian troll army.

1426
01:16:29,089 --> 01:16:31,124
? [Michael] By the
time of the convention,

1427
01:16:31,191 --> 01:16:32,325
it was beginning to look

1428
01:16:32,392 --> 01:16:36,797
like there was a really
serious Russian effort.

1429
01:16:44,204 --> 01:16:45,739
? She is above the law.

1430
01:16:45,806 --> 01:16:47,140
? [Michael] Michael
Flynn had become

1431
01:16:47,207 --> 01:16:51,311
a top national security
advisor to Trump.

1432
01:16:51,377 --> 01:16:52,212
? Lock her up.

1433
01:16:55,181 --> 01:16:56,149
? What concerns me again

1434
01:16:56,216 --> 01:16:57,383
from a counter
intelligence perspective

1435
01:16:57,450 --> 01:16:58,785
is the pattern that
Flynn has established.

1436
01:16:58,852 --> 01:17:01,888
Flynn goes to Moscow and
sits next to Vladimir Putin

1437
01:17:01,955 --> 01:17:04,691
in a lavish RT s
ponsored event.

1438
01:17:04,758 --> 01:17:05,926
Just like in the United States,

1439
01:17:05,992 --> 01:17:07,160
you don't get to sit
next to the president

1440
01:17:07,227 --> 01:17:08,995
of the United States
without any planning.

1441
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:12,298
He takes money from
the Russians, from RT,

1442
01:17:12,365 --> 01:17:15,068
which is nothing more than a
propaganda arm of the Kremlin.

1443
01:17:15,135 --> 01:17:16,336
Then says he didn't
take any money.

1444
01:17:16,402 --> 01:17:19,005
? [Reporter] Were you
paid for that amount?

1445
01:17:19,072 --> 01:17:22,709
? You have to ask my, the
folks that went over there to??

1446
01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:23,844
? I'm asking you.

1447
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:25,011
You'd know if you were paid.

1448
01:17:25,078 --> 01:17:26,446
? I didn't take any
money from Russia

1449
01:17:26,513 --> 01:17:28,048
if that's what you're asking me.

1450
01:17:28,114 --> 01:17:29,149
? Well then who paid you?

1451
01:17:29,215 --> 01:17:31,017
? My Speaker's Bureau.

1452
01:17:31,084 --> 01:17:33,419
? The Speakers Bureau is
merely the pass through

1453
01:17:33,486 --> 01:17:37,924
for the organization that's
paying for the speech.

1454
01:17:37,991 --> 01:17:40,326
Flynn had given the same answer

1455
01:17:40,393 --> 01:17:43,229
when he was trying to get
his security clearance.

1456
01:17:46,066 --> 01:17:48,268
? At that convention, the
Republican party did something

1457
01:17:48,334 --> 01:17:50,937
that they almost have
never done before

1458
01:17:51,004 --> 01:17:53,239
which was take out
of their platform,

1459
01:17:53,306 --> 01:17:55,842
language that was
standing up for Ukraine

1460
01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:57,944
and standing against Russia.

1461
01:17:58,011 --> 01:17:59,746
? I was confident
that was gonna be

1462
01:17:59,813 --> 01:18:01,281
a part of our party platform.

1463
01:18:01,347 --> 01:18:02,516
It was before.

1464
01:18:02,583 --> 01:18:06,152
All of a sudden
somewhere it disappeared.

1465
01:18:06,219 --> 01:18:08,421
? J. D. Gordon, his
account is that it was

1466
01:18:08,488 --> 01:18:10,891
at the request of
the Trump Campaign.

1467
01:18:10,957 --> 01:18:15,495
? And I think that's part
of this whole scandal

1468
01:18:15,562 --> 01:18:17,531
that needs to be resolved.

1469
01:18:17,598 --> 01:18:21,367
Why would the
Republican party remove

1470
01:18:21,434 --> 01:18:26,106
a provision that would help
people who had been invaded

1471
01:18:26,172 --> 01:18:28,975
and slaughtered
defend themselves?

1472
01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:29,876
Interesting.

1473
01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:46,159
? When we went into
the convention,

1474
01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:49,095
we had to contend with
that first drop of emails.

1475
01:18:49,162 --> 01:18:51,798
? Just that the DNC employee??
? It's Russia.

1476
01:18:51,865 --> 01:18:52,966
Adverse.

1477
01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:54,067
They were in
communication or in touch

1478
01:18:54,134 --> 01:18:57,403
with Julian Assange
at Wikileaks.

1479
01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:59,573
? And then they published
that data in a way

1480
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,143
to help Trump and
hurt Hillary Clinton.

1481
01:19:03,209 --> 01:19:05,145
? When Wikileaks was
originally founded

1482
01:19:05,211 --> 01:19:09,115
I don't think it had the
intention of influencing

1483
01:19:09,182 --> 01:19:13,053
the 2016 American election
but was it the goal

1484
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:16,356
after Assange announced that
he wanted to harm Hillary.

1485
01:19:16,422 --> 01:19:17,257
You bet.

1486
01:19:18,258 --> 01:19:19,425
I mean, he said so.

1487
01:19:20,827 --> 01:19:22,863
From that standpoint, it
was a match made in heaven.

1488
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:28,201
? [John] They were actively
in the systems of Democratic

1489
01:19:28,268 --> 01:19:31,137
and as we now know
Republicans as well.

1490
01:19:31,204 --> 01:19:33,239
? We'll publish the
embarrassing material

1491
01:19:33,306 --> 01:19:35,542
from the hack into the DNC.

1492
01:19:35,609 --> 01:19:39,345
We won't publish
the embarrassing
material in the RNC.

1493
01:19:39,412 --> 01:19:41,114
? There were more
damaging ones on Manafort

1494
01:19:41,181 --> 01:19:41,982
that they could have dropped.

1495
01:19:42,048 --> 01:19:43,449
They didn't.

1496
01:19:43,517 --> 01:19:46,620
It really exposed a lot of
personal contact information.

1497
01:19:46,687 --> 01:19:49,856
So many staff were getting
harassment calls for weeks.

1498
01:19:49,923 --> 01:19:53,093
? As we learned more
first about the DNC,

1499
01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:57,564
he basically invited them to
try to, you know, hack into me.

1500
01:19:57,631 --> 01:20:00,967
? He blurts things
out that sound to me

1501
01:20:01,034 --> 01:20:05,338
as a prosecutor almost
like an effort to confess.

1502
01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:08,474
? Russia, if you're
listening, I hope you're able

1503
01:20:08,542 --> 01:20:13,547
to find the 30,000
emails that are missing.

1504
01:20:14,948 --> 01:20:19,252
? If you were in fact
conspiring with Russia

1505
01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:22,889
and encouraging them
to help your campaign

1506
01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:25,559
and signaling them as to
what you wanted them to do...

1507
01:20:25,626 --> 01:20:27,260
? I think you will probably

1508
01:20:27,327 --> 01:20:30,063
be rewarded mightily
by our press.

1509
01:20:32,298 --> 01:20:36,236
? There's a pretty good
suggestion right there

1510
01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:38,539
but in this case made in
plain view in open daylight

1511
01:20:38,605 --> 01:20:41,307
at high noon, it's a little odd.

1512
01:20:46,112 --> 01:20:47,313
? Campaign was over.

1513
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:48,448
Bernie had lost.

1514
01:20:48,515 --> 01:20:51,317
I was assisting in helping with

1515
01:20:51,384 --> 01:20:54,354
a number of Facebook
pages here in California.

1516
01:20:54,420 --> 01:20:57,924
I started to see strange
people appearing.

1517
01:20:57,991 --> 01:21:02,295
Their posts were coming from
American sounding websites

1518
01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:05,999
but when I peeled
away the layers,

1519
01:21:06,066 --> 01:21:08,334
eastern Europe became
a common theme.

1520
01:21:09,502 --> 01:21:12,105
They were propaganda pieces.

1521
01:21:12,172 --> 01:21:14,074
Not a single one of them true.

1522
01:21:14,140 --> 01:21:17,043
All viciously anti?Hillary.

1523
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:20,046
This isn't just
one Sanders page.

1524
01:21:20,113 --> 01:21:22,448
It's Latinos for
Sanders, Pennsylvania,

1525
01:21:22,516 --> 01:21:24,450
Wisconsin, Michigan for Sanders.

1526
01:21:24,518 --> 01:21:25,919
It kept on going.

1527
01:21:25,986 --> 01:21:30,056
? While we were focusing on
the positive of social media

1528
01:21:30,123 --> 01:21:33,960
and information technology,
Russia was looking at how

1529
01:21:34,027 --> 01:21:35,161
to use that as an instrument

1530
01:21:35,228 --> 01:21:38,398
and they have been
incredibly effective.

1531
01:21:38,464 --> 01:21:41,467
? Cyber with social media,
with things like RT.

1532
01:21:41,535 --> 01:21:43,436
They can reach out to
western publics in a way

1533
01:21:43,503 --> 01:21:46,540
that they couldn't
do 35, 40 years ago.

1534
01:21:46,607 --> 01:21:49,109
Some of their predecessors
would be really envious

1535
01:21:49,175 --> 01:21:50,577
of the techniques
that they have now.

1536
01:21:50,644 --> 01:21:53,580
? How the Russian state does
influence operations online

1537
01:21:53,647 --> 01:21:54,715
is pretty complex.

1538
01:21:54,781 --> 01:21:57,450
On the one hand you have
real people, trolls.

1539
01:21:57,518 --> 01:22:00,721
A bigger part is actually
digital disinformation.

1540
01:22:00,787 --> 01:22:05,425
Making user accounts
that are algorithms.

1541
01:22:05,491 --> 01:22:09,596
This is the evolution of
artificial intelligence online.

1542
01:22:09,663 --> 01:22:12,365
? Russians figured out
how you game Google.

1543
01:22:12,432 --> 01:22:15,035
If you have enough
bots to drive it

1544
01:22:15,101 --> 01:22:17,337
to the top of the
Google suggestion list.

1545
01:22:17,403 --> 01:22:18,471
? Any wedge that's there,

1546
01:22:18,539 --> 01:22:19,806
they're gonna test
that audience out.

1547
01:22:19,873 --> 01:22:22,509
And when they find success
then they exploit it.

1548
01:22:22,576 --> 01:22:24,511
They double down on it.

1549
01:22:24,578 --> 01:22:25,612
You might see them show up

1550
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,748
around Black Lives
Matter protests.

1551
01:22:27,814 --> 01:22:30,150
And in the counter
protest movement.

1552
01:22:30,216 --> 01:22:32,385
Any anti?government or
white supremacist group.

1553
01:22:32,452 --> 01:22:34,487
Nationalists, non?globalists.

1554
01:22:34,555 --> 01:22:38,491
Anti?EU, anti?NATO,
anti?immigration.

1555
01:22:38,559 --> 01:22:42,596
? Promoting the far right,
promoting the far left,

1556
01:22:42,663 --> 01:22:46,066
so that our politics
become more polarized,

1557
01:22:46,132 --> 01:22:48,569
then Putin can feed
lies to either side

1558
01:22:48,635 --> 01:22:50,637
because they hate
each other so much.

1559
01:22:51,738 --> 01:22:54,440
If we're divided as Americans

1560
01:22:54,508 --> 01:22:58,278
then it's harder for us to
stand up to that influence.

1561
01:22:58,344 --> 01:23:00,514
? They know that in the
west there's a tendency

1562
01:23:00,581 --> 01:23:02,583
towards positivism,
there's a tendency towards,

1563
01:23:02,649 --> 01:23:03,449
well, I don't know.

1564
01:23:03,517 --> 01:23:04,317
That's a story that's out there.

1565
01:23:04,384 --> 01:23:04,918
We just can't discredit it.

1566
01:23:04,985 --> 01:23:05,752
We have to.

1567
01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,288
Maybe the media is right.

1568
01:23:08,354 --> 01:23:10,123
The Russians know that
we do this a
s westerners.

1569
01:23:10,190 --> 01:23:11,725
They see it coming and
they take it to the bank

1570
01:23:11,792 --> 01:23:13,226
every single time.

1571
01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:14,494
? The westerners are lazy.

1572
01:23:14,561 --> 01:23:15,662
I mean, they don't do research.

1573
01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:18,431
Russians have already
done everything for them

1574
01:23:18,498 --> 01:23:21,467
and they know how to pack it
and how to feed it to them.

1575
01:23:21,535 --> 01:23:23,704
? Russia wins the audience first

1576
01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:25,438
and then directs them somewhere.

1577
01:23:25,506 --> 01:23:27,440
It's very different from
American approaches.

1578
01:23:27,508 --> 01:23:29,142
Americans are impatient.

1579
01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:31,512
You just create
pictures, you create bios

1580
01:23:31,578 --> 01:23:34,080
that look like accounts that
are from these locations

1581
01:23:34,147 --> 01:23:36,683
because people are more
likely to take in information

1582
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,319
from people that look like
them and talk like them.

1583
01:23:39,385 --> 01:23:40,854
Follow everybody that's
in that community.

1584
01:23:40,921 --> 01:23:42,589
You retweet what they say.

1585
01:23:42,656 --> 01:23:44,090
Lowering the guard
of that audience

1586
01:23:44,157 --> 01:23:47,327
so they would accept Russian
information or Russian views.

1587
01:23:47,393 --> 01:23:50,296
Over time you can insert
in the content you want.

1588
01:23:52,365 --> 01:23:54,467
? [Reporter] In this office
building in St. Petersburg,

1589
01:23:54,535 --> 01:23:56,202
an army of trolls.

1590
01:23:56,269 --> 01:23:57,804
They were even caught on camera

1591
01:23:57,871 --> 01:24:00,507
secretly filmed by
a former employee.

1592
01:24:00,574 --> 01:24:02,509
? The U. S. elections
are the key issue

1593
01:24:02,576 --> 01:24:04,745
for the Kremlin and of
course Russia has invested

1594
01:24:04,811 --> 01:24:06,747
a lot of effort into them.

1595
01:24:06,813 --> 01:24:08,615
It's so sophisticated
and adapted

1596
01:24:08,682 --> 01:24:10,416
for the tastes of internet users

1597
01:24:10,483 --> 01:24:12,586
that it's almost
impossible to recognize.

1598
01:24:12,653 --> 01:24:14,054
? You have serious quotas.

1599
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,591
So in an hour you have to
produce 20 tweets, 30 comments

1600
01:24:17,658 --> 01:24:19,125
on these websites.

1601
01:24:19,192 --> 01:24:21,828
So, it's actually like a work
environment for these people.

1602
01:24:21,895 --> 01:24:24,665
? [Reporter] 12 hours a
day praising the Kremlin,

1603
01:24:24,731 --> 01:24:26,833
berating its enemies.

1604
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:29,570
? I myself have a number
of Russian trolls.

1605
01:24:29,636 --> 01:24:32,739
I know whenever I refer to the
illegal annexation of Crimea

1606
01:24:32,806 --> 01:24:35,175
I get, you know, quite
a bit of criticism.

1607
01:24:35,241 --> 01:24:36,376
? An interview like this,

1608
01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:37,477
once it goes out
on the internet,

1609
01:24:37,544 --> 01:24:38,879
I'll receive some
sort of trolling

1610
01:24:38,945 --> 01:24:40,614
very specifically around it.

1611
01:24:40,681 --> 01:24:43,249
The goal is essentially
to get you to shut up.

1612
01:24:43,316 --> 01:24:45,151
And to not be a challenger.

1613
01:24:45,218 --> 01:24:46,720
They'll threaten
lawsuits, for example,

1614
01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:48,789
because they know nothing
effects an American

1615
01:24:48,855 --> 01:24:50,524
like the threat of a lawsuit.

1616
01:24:52,058 --> 01:24:53,359
If you're operating in Europe,
the closer you get to Moscow,

1617
01:24:53,426 --> 01:24:56,930
the more your physical
life is actually in danger.

1618
01:24:56,997 --> 01:24:59,566
(gun firing)

1619
01:25:00,734 --> 01:25:02,669
They can try and break
into your bank accounts,

1620
01:25:02,736 --> 01:25:03,870
attack you financially,

1621
01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:05,806
and if they can't
get to you personally

1622
01:25:05,872 --> 01:25:07,774
they'll target your family.

1623
01:25:07,841 --> 01:25:09,175
They create false stories,

1624
01:25:09,242 --> 01:25:12,646
seed it out there to try
and destroy your reputation.

1625
01:25:12,713 --> 01:25:16,650
? You plant an idea,
a fake story, a lie.

1626
01:25:16,717 --> 01:25:17,851
? It will take on
a life of its own

1627
01:25:17,918 --> 01:25:19,586
and you don't have
to do the propaganda.

1628
01:25:19,653 --> 01:25:21,454
The audience will do it for you.

1629
01:25:22,656 --> 01:25:25,592
Seth Rich was a campaign
worker for Hillary Clinton.

1630
01:25:25,659 --> 01:25:27,427
He turned up dead.

1631
01:25:27,493 --> 01:25:29,730
The Seth Rich story
was that he was the one

1632
01:25:29,796 --> 01:25:32,498
who stole the Democratic
Committee emails.

1633
01:25:32,566 --> 01:25:34,735
There's no evidence
to support that.

1634
01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:36,670
Today is, it's an
unsolved murder

1635
01:25:36,737 --> 01:25:38,839
but it's propagated both
by the alternative right

1636
01:25:38,905 --> 01:25:40,707
but also by groups
like Wikileaks.

1637
01:25:40,774 --> 01:25:42,576
Even to the point where
you have Russian ambassador

1638
01:25:42,643 --> 01:25:44,678
show up and say I think
there might be something

1639
01:25:44,745 --> 01:25:45,879
into this Seth Rich story.

1640
01:25:45,946 --> 01:25:48,615
That doubt that's there
really covers your hand

1641
01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:49,850
over the longer term.

1642
01:25:50,984 --> 01:25:53,687
? And sometimes
the most outrageous

1643
01:25:53,754 --> 01:25:57,558
are the ones that you think
that you don't want to dignify

1644
01:25:57,624 --> 01:26:00,727
with a response to but that
I've subsequently learned

1645
01:26:00,794 --> 01:26:02,128
that's a kind of
dangerous proposition.

1646
01:26:02,195 --> 01:26:04,831
? John Podesta says let's
go over to the pizza place

1647
01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,533
and all of a sudden it's a story

1648
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,902
about child trafficking
ring in the basement

1649
01:26:08,969 --> 01:26:11,004
which doesn't exist
in the pizza place.

1650
01:26:11,071 --> 01:26:14,240
? Resulted in a person who
had been reading this stuff

1651
01:26:14,307 --> 01:26:16,643
deciding that he would deputize
himself to come up here

1652
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:19,613
with a gun, firing that
weapon in the pizza parlor.

1653
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,782
But it just sort of never ends.

1654
01:26:24,084 --> 01:26:26,953
? 2013 they were starting
to learn the power

1655
01:26:27,020 --> 01:26:28,622
of this influence.

1656
01:26:28,689 --> 01:26:31,858
In 2014 they were doing
capability development.

1657
01:26:31,925 --> 01:26:35,662
'15 was winning
audiences so that in 2016

1658
01:26:35,729 --> 01:26:37,831
you could actually go
after the U. S. election.

1659
01:26:39,499 --> 01:26:41,735
The primary message
would be one,

1660
01:26:41,802 --> 01:26:43,704
Hillary Clinton cannot
become president.

1661
01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:46,707
Second one is Trump is the
man to mend fences with Russia

1662
01:26:46,773 --> 01:26:50,043
and he's a great leader and a
nationalist much like Putin.

1663
01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:52,746
The third one was Bernie
Sanders got a raw deal

1664
01:26:52,813 --> 01:26:54,781
that you shouldn't even
come out to the polls.

1665
01:26:54,848 --> 01:26:58,685
? The Russians in line with
right wing radical media

1666
01:26:58,752 --> 01:27:03,389
were creating false
stories to generate fear

1667
01:27:03,456 --> 01:27:05,425
and in story after
story after story.

1668
01:27:05,491 --> 01:27:07,060
? [George] Secretary Clinton
had a serious disease.

1669
01:27:07,127 --> 01:27:08,194
? [Man] Multiple sclerosis.

1670
01:27:08,261 --> 01:27:09,796
? [Woman] Hillary's
gonna cause nuclear war.

1671
01:27:09,863 --> 01:27:10,964
? [Man] Murderer of 30 people.

1672
01:27:11,031 --> 01:27:13,600
? [Man] Funding Isis,
smuggling drugs.

1673
01:27:13,667 --> 01:27:15,001
? Untrustworthy.
? Pedophilia.

1674
01:27:15,068 --> 01:27:16,136
? [Woman] Crooked.

1675
01:27:16,202 --> 01:27:17,704
? Hillary Clinton
is the she devil.

1676
01:27:17,771 --> 01:27:20,874
? Totally creepy falsehood.

1677
01:27:20,941 --> 01:27:22,876
? Sometimes we found
in the United States

1678
01:27:22,943 --> 01:27:26,947
our greatest strength, free
speech, open societies,

1679
01:27:27,013 --> 01:27:31,852
a democracy can also be one of
our greatest vulnerabilities.

1680
01:27:31,918 --> 01:27:36,923
? I don't think we were
fully aware of the impact,

1681
01:27:37,891 --> 01:27:39,025
the effects that it was having.

1682
01:27:39,092 --> 01:27:42,829
So much of it seemed
surreal, ridiculous.

1683
01:27:42,896 --> 01:27:46,633
? By utilizing our
openness, they exploited us.

1684
01:27:46,700 --> 01:27:48,902
If people that I knew personally

1685
01:27:48,969 --> 01:27:50,537
to be thinking
thoughtful people,

1686
01:27:50,604 --> 01:27:54,508
if they were sharing
the propaganda, who
else was sharing?

1687
01:27:54,575 --> 01:27:55,876
? Everyone falls for fake news.

1688
01:27:55,942 --> 01:27:56,977
I've fallen for fake news.

1689
01:27:57,043 --> 01:28:01,748
? Over the last 75
days, the top 20

1690
01:28:01,815 --> 01:28:04,885
demonstrably fake stories,

1691
01:28:04,951 --> 01:28:07,621
got more Facebook
likes and shares

1692
01:28:07,688 --> 01:28:11,592
than the top 20 campaign
stories from mainstream media.

1693
01:28:11,658 --> 01:28:15,729
? It laid the groundwork
for Sanders supporters

1694
01:28:15,796 --> 01:28:17,598
to say I've had it.

1695
01:28:17,664 --> 01:28:19,432
? They actually have
won over a segment

1696
01:28:19,499 --> 01:28:22,402
of the U. S. audience like
Russia's never won over before.

1697
01:28:22,468 --> 01:28:23,770
A white nationalists rally

1698
01:28:23,837 --> 01:28:26,507
in Charlottesville,
Virginia, where they chanted.

1699
01:28:31,111 --> 01:28:35,849
? Recent polling indicates
that 49% of Republican voters,

1700
01:28:35,916 --> 01:28:38,118
I'm sad to say, believe that,

1701
01:28:38,184 --> 01:28:40,787
that Putin and that
Russia are either

1702
01:28:40,854 --> 01:28:43,857
an ally or a friendly nation.

1703
01:28:43,924 --> 01:28:47,561
? The question is who
helped guide the decisions

1704
01:28:47,628 --> 01:28:48,929
that the Russians were making,

1705
01:28:48,995 --> 01:28:50,496
what ads they may have bought.

1706
01:28:50,564 --> 01:28:52,432
What kinds of fake news

1707
01:28:52,498 --> 01:28:54,701
they thought would
be most effective.

1708
01:28:54,768 --> 01:28:56,737
? If you know the personality

1709
01:28:56,803 --> 01:28:58,238
of the people you're targeting,

1710
01:28:58,304 --> 01:29:01,808
you can nuance your messaging
to resonate more effectively

1711
01:29:01,875 --> 01:29:03,844
with those key audience groups.

1712
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:06,913
This information is quite
helpful to a campaign manager.

1713
01:29:07,948 --> 01:29:09,415
? Cambridge Analytica popped up

1714
01:29:09,482 --> 01:29:13,687
growing out of an experiment,
behavioral science experiment

1715
01:29:13,754 --> 01:29:16,823
at Cambridge University
to see whether they could

1716
01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:21,628
analyze large numbers
of people using Facebook

1717
01:29:21,695 --> 01:29:25,799
because people are spilling
their feelings to their friends,

1718
01:29:25,866 --> 01:29:27,934
hundreds of millions of
people in their pool.

1719
01:29:28,001 --> 01:29:29,269
? We have somewhere close to

1720
01:29:29,335 --> 01:29:31,905
four or five thousand
data points on every adult

1721
01:29:31,972 --> 01:29:33,173
in the United States.

1722
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,576
We can see where these
people are on the map.

1723
01:29:35,642 --> 01:29:38,812
? They were able to take
that to micro segment.

1724
01:29:38,879 --> 01:29:41,915
You belong to a group
of 12 like?minded people

1725
01:29:41,982 --> 01:29:43,950
exactly like you
who are interested

1726
01:29:44,017 --> 01:29:46,119
in the same things
around the country.

1727
01:29:46,186 --> 01:29:48,689
? These are people who
are definitely going

1728
01:29:48,755 --> 01:29:51,224
to vote but they need
moving from the center

1729
01:29:51,291 --> 01:29:53,026
a little bit more
towards the right.

1730
01:29:53,093 --> 01:29:55,028
? You're not supposed
to go into Facebook

1731
01:29:55,095 --> 01:29:58,198
and harvest that
kind of information.

1732
01:29:58,264 --> 01:30:02,202
Cambridge Analytica
got its Facebook data

1733
01:30:02,268 --> 01:30:04,237
in a sort of quasi?legal way.

1734
01:30:04,304 --> 01:30:06,873
? We can look at what
issue they care about.

1735
01:30:06,940 --> 01:30:08,742
Gun rights I've selected.

1736
01:30:08,809 --> 01:30:11,512
That narrows the field
slightly more and now we know

1737
01:30:11,578 --> 01:30:13,847
that we need a
message on gun rights.

1738
01:30:13,914 --> 01:30:15,849
It needs to be a
persuasion message

1739
01:30:15,916 --> 01:30:17,551
and it needs to be nuanced

1740
01:30:17,618 --> 01:30:19,485
according to the
certain personality

1741
01:30:19,553 --> 01:30:20,787
that we're interested in.

1742
01:30:20,854 --> 01:30:23,824
? They were very involved
in the Brexit vote.

1743
01:30:25,291 --> 01:30:27,894
? We saw the Russian
bot armies, the trolls,

1744
01:30:27,961 --> 01:30:30,697
have a very pro Brexit message.

1745
01:30:30,764 --> 01:30:33,600
? There have been allegations
that Cambridge Analytica

1746
01:30:33,667 --> 01:30:38,004
supported it through a small
office above a pizza shop,

1747
01:30:38,071 --> 01:30:41,908
which is not exactly the
kind of place you think

1748
01:30:41,975 --> 01:30:45,178
would be the center for
international intrigue

1749
01:30:45,245 --> 01:30:46,780
unless it was just a cutout

1750
01:30:46,847 --> 01:30:49,850
for somebody much more
consequential behind it.

1751
01:30:51,151 --> 01:30:54,588
? [Craig] Cambridge
Analytics is owned by SCL.

1752
01:30:54,655 --> 01:30:58,525
? A larger and much more
sinister global election

1753
01:30:58,592 --> 01:31:03,029
tampering operation using
big data and technology.

1754
01:31:03,096 --> 01:31:05,966
? SCL is in turn owned
by shell companies

1755
01:31:06,032 --> 01:31:08,835
that you can trace
back to Dmitry Firtash

1756
01:31:09,803 --> 01:31:12,038
who again is tied to Mogilevich.

1757
01:31:15,809 --> 01:31:18,278
That would complete
the entire string

1758
01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,615
and show crime boss
and Mogilevich involved

1759
01:31:21,682 --> 01:31:24,951
starting out with pure and
simple money laundering in 1984

1760
01:31:25,018 --> 01:31:27,988
with Trump properties going
forward more than 32 years

1761
01:31:28,054 --> 01:31:31,692
to the election in which
this data mining firm

1762
01:31:31,758 --> 01:31:33,794
Cambridge Analytica is
playing a very, very big role

1763
01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:36,029
in the Trump campaign
and helping him win.

1764
01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:46,039
? Of the two candidates
left in this election,

1765
01:31:46,106 --> 01:31:48,575
one of them is using
these technologies

1766
01:31:48,642 --> 01:31:50,310
and it's gonna be very
interesting to see

1767
01:31:50,376 --> 01:31:53,346
how they impact the
next several weeks.

1768
01:31:53,413 --> 01:31:54,681
Thank you.

1769
01:31:54,748 --> 01:31:56,116
? [Nina] One of the big
investors in Cambridge Analytica

1770
01:31:56,182 --> 01:31:57,851
is Robert Mercer.

1771
01:32:02,889 --> 01:32:05,058
He's a hedge fund billionaire.

1772
01:32:32,352 --> 01:32:35,922
? Cyber scientists on the
outside noticed this server

1773
01:32:35,989 --> 01:32:38,258
that was configured
in a very unusual way

1774
01:32:38,324 --> 01:32:42,696
that was a direct link
essentially from a Russian bank,

1775
01:32:42,763 --> 01:32:45,165
Alfa bank, and Trump Tower.

1776
01:32:48,101 --> 01:32:50,771
? [Man] That would
obviously explain

1777
01:32:50,837 --> 01:32:53,006
a major path of communications.

1778
01:32:53,073 --> 01:32:54,240
? Trump Tower.

1779
01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:56,943
They seemed to have
premonitions of things

1780
01:32:57,010 --> 01:32:59,012
that were gonna happen
that in fact did happen.

1781
01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:01,682
Roger Stone in August
saying it would be my turn

1782
01:33:01,748 --> 01:33:03,917
at the barrel while
he simultaneously

1783
01:33:03,984 --> 01:33:06,119
involved with Wikileaks.

1784
01:33:06,186 --> 01:33:11,024
? I actually have
communicated with Assange.

1785
01:33:11,091 --> 01:33:13,026
I believe the next
crunch of documents

1786
01:33:13,093 --> 01:33:16,129
pertain to the
Clinton Foundation

1787
01:33:16,196 --> 01:33:19,666
but there's no telling what
the October surprise may be.

1788
01:33:19,733 --> 01:33:23,737
? October 7, 2016, three
major things happened.

1789
01:33:23,804 --> 01:33:24,971
The Department of
Homeland Security

1790
01:33:25,038 --> 01:33:27,107
and the Director of
National Intelligence

1791
01:33:27,173 --> 01:33:30,076
made a public statement and
said the government hacking

1792
01:33:30,143 --> 01:33:32,045
during the 2016
election was none other

1793
01:33:32,112 --> 01:33:34,848
than the Russian Federation
and that this decision

1794
01:33:34,915 --> 01:33:38,184
could have only been
made by Vladimir Putin.

1795
01:33:38,251 --> 01:33:41,655
On the same day the Access
Hollywood tapes were revealed.

1796
01:33:47,393 --> 01:33:48,061
Those two things.

1797
01:33:48,128 --> 01:33:49,195
A third thing happened.

1798
01:33:49,262 --> 01:33:51,632
John Podesta's
emails were released.

1799
01:33:53,033 --> 01:33:55,235
? Wikileaks posted more
than 2,000 additional emails

1800
01:33:55,301 --> 01:33:58,371
from Hillary Clinton's
campaign chair, John Podesta.

1801
01:33:58,438 --> 01:33:59,840
? I never heard from the FBI

1802
01:33:59,906 --> 01:34:02,275
until two days after my emails
started getting released.

1803
01:34:02,342 --> 01:34:03,910
They said you may
not be aware of this

1804
01:34:03,977 --> 01:34:05,078
but your emails
have been hacked.

1805
01:34:05,145 --> 01:34:07,247
I said, yes, I've been
watching it for 48 hours

1806
01:34:07,313 --> 01:34:11,451
on every cable story,
you know, in the country.

1807
01:34:11,518 --> 01:34:14,054
That was actually the last
time I talked to the FBI.

1808
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,723
? There was a lot more
that was coming out

1809
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:19,826
that we were aware of that
we couldn't get the press

1810
01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:21,394
to pay any attention to.

1811
01:34:21,461 --> 01:34:24,430
I tried in my speeches
and then culminating

1812
01:34:24,497 --> 01:34:25,899
in the third debate.

1813
01:34:25,966 --> 01:34:28,902
? Look, from everything I see

1814
01:34:28,969 --> 01:34:32,472
has no respect for this person.

1815
01:34:32,539 --> 01:34:33,674
? Well, that's
because he'd rather

1816
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:36,209
have a puppet as president.
? No puppet.

1817
01:34:36,276 --> 01:34:37,377
No puppet.

1818
01:34:37,443 --> 01:34:38,111
? United States and
it's pretty clear.

1819
01:34:38,178 --> 01:34:39,279
? You're the puppet.

1820
01:34:39,345 --> 01:34:40,113
? It's pretty clear
you won't admit??

1821
01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:41,982
? [Donald] No you won't??

1822
01:34:42,048 --> 01:34:43,416
?
That the Russians have engaged

1823
01:34:43,483 --> 01:34:44,785
in cyber?attacks against the
United States of America.

1824
01:34:44,851 --> 01:34:50,423
That you encouraged
espionage against our people.

1825
01:34:51,592 --> 01:34:54,194
That you are willing to
spout the Putin line,

1826
01:34:54,260 --> 01:34:57,297
sign up for his wish
list, break up NATO,

1827
01:34:57,363 --> 01:34:59,533
do whatever he wants to do.

1828
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,202
? We went into election
day believing that we had

1829
01:35:02,268 --> 01:35:05,038
a lead in the popular vote
which proved to be true.

1830
01:35:06,272 --> 01:35:08,041
Michigan, Wisconsin
and Pennsylvania,

1831
01:35:08,108 --> 01:35:10,143
we felt like we had a
lead in all those states

1832
01:35:10,210 --> 01:35:12,078
and that proved to be not true

1833
01:35:12,145 --> 01:35:15,215
so he won by a combined
total in those three states

1834
01:35:15,281 --> 01:35:17,283
of 70,000 votes and
gave him the presidency.

1835
01:35:26,326 --> 01:35:27,928
? Sorry to keep you waiting.

1836
01:35:27,994 --> 01:35:29,730
Complicated business.

1837
01:35:49,115 --> 01:35:50,250
? During the transition,

1838
01:35:50,316 --> 01:35:54,287
Jared Kushner met with a
sanctioned Russian bank.

1839
01:35:54,354 --> 01:35:55,455
? Gorkov, the head of that bank,

1840
01:35:55,522 --> 01:35:57,991
got his training not in
the banker's academy.

1841
01:35:58,058 --> 01:36:00,126
He's a trained KGB agent.

1842
01:36:01,427 --> 01:36:03,263
And its offices all
around the world

1843
01:36:03,329 --> 01:36:05,932
are always understood
to be providing cover

1844
01:36:05,999 --> 01:36:07,934
for Russian
intelligence operations.

1845
01:36:08,001 --> 01:36:10,370
? What did you really speak
to Jared Kushner about

1846
01:36:10,436 --> 01:36:13,073
in New York when you
met him in December?
akumenang.com

1847
01:36:13,139 --> 01:36:15,408
? [Reporter] The Russian bank
said they talked business.

1848
01:36:15,475 --> 01:36:19,279
White House says they talked
future U. S./Russia relations.

1849
01:36:19,345 --> 01:36:21,381
? If he was doing this
for business purposes

1850
01:36:21,447 --> 01:36:23,049
it would be a
violation of the law.

1851
01:36:23,116 --> 01:36:25,285
If he was doing this
for political purposes

1852
01:36:25,351 --> 01:36:27,120
there are serious
questions about whether he

1853
01:36:27,187 --> 01:36:29,389
or anyone on the campaign
were working with Russians

1854
01:36:29,455 --> 01:36:31,124
during the
interference campaign.

1855
01:36:31,191 --> 01:36:33,293
? The crown jewel for
any intelligence agency

1856
01:36:33,359 --> 01:36:36,396
is to recruit an asset inside

1857
01:36:36,462 --> 01:36:38,364
your adversary's
intelligence agency

1858
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:42,368
because that person
can of course report

1859
01:36:42,435 --> 01:36:45,539
on intelligence operations
against your own country.

1860
01:36:45,606 --> 01:36:48,241
? For Donald Trump
to put Michael Flynn

1861
01:36:48,308 --> 01:36:50,243
in the role of National
Security Advisor

1862
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:53,647
shows that they were
extremely incompetent

1863
01:36:53,714 --> 01:36:56,482
in their vetting of an
individual who was working

1864
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:59,886
as an unregistered foreign
agent on behalf of Turkey.

1865
01:36:59,953 --> 01:37:03,189
Who had extensive ties to a
foreign adversary in Russia

1866
01:37:03,256 --> 01:37:06,426
and wasn't disclosing
those ties or that was one

1867
01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:10,330
of his highest qualifications
and Donald Trump liked that.

1868
01:37:10,396 --> 01:37:15,201
? I was invited to take my
old job as CIA director back.

1869
01:37:15,268 --> 01:37:17,938
And I learned that I
would have had to report

1870
01:37:18,004 --> 01:37:20,273
to the president
through Mike Flynn.

1871
01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:22,509
They pressed me to go
to a particular meeting

1872
01:37:22,576 --> 01:37:25,145
where there were
several Turks present

1873
01:37:25,211 --> 01:37:27,581
and it was clear they
were thinking seriously

1874
01:37:27,648 --> 01:37:31,317
about taking him into custody
Gulan in Western Pennsylvania

1875
01:37:31,384 --> 01:37:33,987
which would have been completely
illegal under American law.

1876
01:37:34,054 --> 01:37:36,022
I told them that and left.

1877
01:37:38,424 --> 01:37:41,427
I decided I did not want
to report through Mike

1878
01:37:41,494 --> 01:37:44,531
and so I turned down the offer.

1879
01:37:44,598 --> 01:37:45,699
? President?elect Donald Trump

1880
01:37:45,766 --> 01:37:48,134
sent out an email
announcing his pick

1881
01:37:48,201 --> 01:37:49,369
for Secretary of State.

1882
01:37:49,435 --> 01:37:52,372
Exxon Mobil chairman
and CEO Rex Tillerson,

1883
01:37:52,438 --> 01:37:55,609
despite concerns over
his close ties to Russia.

1884
01:37:56,777 --> 01:37:58,378
? I mean, this is
a guy who was given

1885
01:37:58,444 --> 01:38:01,381
a friendship award
by Vladimir Putin.

1886
01:38:01,447 --> 01:38:03,449
? I have a very close
relationship with him

1887
01:38:03,517 --> 01:38:06,319
which dates back
almost 15 years now.

1888
01:38:06,386 --> 01:38:09,489
? I believe that Rex Tillerson
was chosen by Donald Trump

1889
01:38:09,556 --> 01:38:11,525
for primarily one reason.

1890
01:38:11,592 --> 01:38:16,029
He would not stand in
the way of Donald Trump's

1891
01:38:16,096 --> 01:38:19,700
prevailing policy
interests which is to align

1892
01:38:19,766 --> 01:38:23,570
the United States with
Vladimir Putin's regime.

1893
01:38:23,637 --> 01:38:26,372
And I think that's
exactly what he's done.

1894
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:27,908
He's facilitated it.

1895
01:38:29,409 --> 01:38:32,045
? Putin and Rex Tillerson had
been trying to put together

1896
01:38:32,112 --> 01:38:36,449
a 500 billion dollar
Arctic Exploration deal.

1897
01:38:36,517 --> 01:38:39,085
? Exxon Mobil has won a
highly coveted contract

1898
01:38:39,152 --> 01:38:40,353
with Russia's Rozneft.

1899
01:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,089
? You know, my philosophy
is to make money.

1900
01:38:43,156 --> 01:38:46,727
And so if I can
drill and make money

1901
01:38:46,793 --> 01:38:48,595
then that's what I want to do.

1902
01:38:51,397 --> 01:38:54,100
? But it had been put on hold
by the Obama Administration

1903
01:38:54,167 --> 01:38:55,669
when the sanctions were imposed.

1904
01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:59,505
? One of the fascinating
things in that dossier,

1905
01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:01,374
Steele sources told
him that Rozneft,

1906
01:39:01,441 --> 01:39:03,443
big Russian oil company
owned by the state,

1907
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:06,146
that 19% of it was
gonna be sold off.

1908
01:39:06,212 --> 01:39:08,381
And that there'd be money for
people who were able to get.

1909
01:39:08,448 --> 01:39:09,650
U.S. sanctions removed.

1910
01:39:14,588 --> 01:39:19,593
Well, sure enough in December
that percentage of Rozneft

1911
01:39:20,827 --> 01:39:23,597
was sold off in a method by
which involved Shell companies

1912
01:39:23,664 --> 01:39:26,099
in the Grand Caymans
which are nontransparent

1913
01:39:26,166 --> 01:39:27,601
so which you can't penetrate.

1914
01:39:29,302 --> 01:39:31,738
? Only someone in
the highest echelons

1915
01:39:31,805 --> 01:39:34,641
of Rozneft would have
access to that information.

1916
01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:41,381
? And obviously somebody
talking to Chris Steele

1917
01:39:41,447 --> 01:39:45,118
knew a lot about it many
months before it happened.

1918
01:39:49,355 --> 01:39:51,457
? The Russian hand in
these influence efforts,

1919
01:39:51,525 --> 01:39:52,593
ultimately they'll
try and hide it

1920
01:39:52,659 --> 01:39:54,327
and they do it with two methods,

1921
01:39:54,394 --> 01:39:57,097
putting them in jail
or killing people off.

1922
01:39:57,163 --> 01:39:59,566
(gun firing)

1923
01:39:59,633 --> 01:40:02,102
? Arrests in which
people were dragged out

1924
01:40:02,168 --> 01:40:04,470
had black bags put
over their heads.

1925
01:40:04,538 --> 01:40:06,306
Charged for treason.

1926
01:40:06,372 --> 01:40:09,442
These people may have
been Chris Steele sources

1927
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:12,579
or Russian intelligence may
have suspected that they were.

1928
01:40:14,147 --> 01:40:16,783
The day after Christmas,
General Oleg Erovenkin,

1929
01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:21,321
who was the Chief of Staff
of Rozneft was assassinated

1930
01:40:21,387 --> 01:40:24,424
in the back of a car in
the center of Moscow.

1931
01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:27,193
? [Clint] The head of RT
English mysterious death

1932
01:40:27,260 --> 01:40:28,494
in Washington, D. C.

1933
01:40:29,863 --> 01:40:31,865
A Russian diplomat stationed
here in New York City

1934
01:40:31,932 --> 01:40:34,200
had actually died
on election day.

1935
01:40:35,869 --> 01:40:38,572
? You've got obvious interests
on the part of the Russians.

1936
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:40,607
And of course on the
other side of the equation

1937
01:40:40,674 --> 01:40:42,609
you have all of these
contacts going back to Russia,

1938
01:40:42,676 --> 01:40:44,778
whether it's Roger Stone,
whether it's Flynn.

1939
01:40:44,845 --> 01:40:45,879
Whether it's any of these folks,

1940
01:40:45,946 --> 01:40:48,181
there is simply
way too much smoke

1941
01:40:48,248 --> 01:40:50,551
for there to be absolutely
no fire whatsoever.

1942
01:40:50,617 --> 01:40:53,554
(light intense music)

1943
01:41:06,833 --> 01:41:11,271
? That I forget how many
tentacles this has. (laughs)

1944
01:41:11,337 --> 01:41:15,576
It's just sort of anyone of
these is a massive story.

1945
01:41:23,517 --> 01:41:26,452
It's unrealistic to think it's
limited to what we know now.

1946
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,556
Rather than look at this as
one isolated money laundering

1947
01:41:29,623 --> 01:41:33,493
after another or one criminal
appearing after another.

1948
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,661
I think it's much more than that

1949
01:41:34,728 --> 01:41:37,330
and what you have is probably

1950
01:41:37,397 --> 01:41:40,734
the biggest intelligence breach
in the history of the world.

1951
01:41:40,801 --> 01:41:44,404
? So to be clear Mr. Trump
has no financial relationships

1952
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:46,239
with any Russian oligarchs?

1953
01:41:46,306 --> 01:41:47,273
? That that's what he said.

1954
01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:48,008
I didn't.

1955
01:41:48,074 --> 01:41:49,175
That's what I said.

1956
01:41:49,242 --> 01:41:51,144
That's obviously
what our position is.

1957
01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:07,928
? Do you solemnly swear.

1958
01:42:07,994 --> 01:42:11,698
? The office of President
of the United States.

1959
01:42:11,765 --> 01:42:14,801
(intense somber music)

1960
01:42:38,892 --> 01:42:43,897
? The president is, I believe,
a puppet of Vladimir Putin.

1961
01:42:45,566 --> 01:42:48,869
That is the mere challenge
that we face as Americans.

1962
01:42:50,036 --> 01:42:53,607
? He has tried to
deliver for Russia.

1963
01:42:53,674 --> 01:42:56,710
He wanted to take off
sanctions immediately.

1964
01:42:56,777 --> 01:42:59,680
? I was in the administration
for the first five weeks

1965
01:42:59,746 --> 01:43:01,748
of Trump where,
among other things,

1966
01:43:01,815 --> 01:43:03,984
I was responsible for
the Russia sanctions.

1967
01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:06,553
And I'm one of the
people who was worried

1968
01:43:06,620 --> 01:43:08,789
that the Trump
Administration would suddenly

1969
01:43:08,855 --> 01:43:10,323
lift the sanctions unilaterally.

1970
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:11,792
And I stand by it now.

1971
01:43:15,095 --> 01:43:16,697
? You don't have to
have been a lawyer.

1972
01:43:16,763 --> 01:43:18,164
You don't have to have
been in a cover?up

1973
01:43:18,231 --> 01:43:21,802
to see when somebody is acting
like they're covering up.

1974
01:43:21,868 --> 01:43:24,771
This man is clearly
inconspicuously doing so.

1975
01:43:28,775 --> 01:43:32,378
? I don't know how a president
can handle this situation

1976
01:43:32,445 --> 01:43:34,280
worse than President
Trump is now.

1977
01:43:35,616 --> 01:43:37,551
His actions at the G20,

1978
01:43:37,618 --> 01:43:40,721
his talk of maybe getting
a cyber partnership.

1979
01:43:43,890 --> 01:43:46,760
You don't go to somebody who
just punched you in the face

1980
01:43:46,827 --> 01:43:48,328
and then offer them a favor.

1981
01:43:54,801 --> 01:43:56,102
? Trump has to have
known he was compromised.

1982
01:43:56,169 --> 01:43:58,739
He's got to know the eyes
of the world are on him.

1983
01:43:58,805 --> 01:44:01,842
And suddenly all these forces
will be out to expose him.

1984
01:44:01,908 --> 01:44:04,778
I cannot imagine living with
that every day, you know.

1985
01:44:08,381 --> 01:44:12,418
? The Trump campaign's
biggest potential exposure

1986
01:44:12,485 --> 01:44:14,755
is gonna be in their
financial dealings.

1987
01:44:14,821 --> 01:44:17,924
It's very hard to
cover up money trails.

1988
01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:22,929
The other one is
obstruction of justice.

1989
01:44:22,996 --> 01:44:25,532
? Collusion is a media shorthand

1990
01:44:25,599 --> 01:44:27,934
for could be aiding
and abetting.

1991
01:44:28,001 --> 01:44:29,235
Conspiracy.

1992
01:44:29,302 --> 01:44:32,773
It could be aid and
comfort which is treason.

1993
01:44:34,808 --> 01:44:38,812
? The Russia story is
a total fabrication.

1994
01:44:38,879 --> 01:44:41,748
What the prosecutors
should be looking at

1995
01:44:41,815 --> 01:44:45,586
are Hillary Clinton's
33,000 deleted emails.

1996
01:44:49,455 --> 01:44:50,456
? Lock her up!

1997
01:44:50,524 --> 01:44:51,858
Lock her up!

1998
01:44:51,925 --> 01:44:53,026
Lock her up!

1999
01:44:53,093 --> 01:44:54,595
Lock her up!

2000
01:44:54,661 --> 01:44:57,330
(crowd yelling)

2001
01:44:59,733 --> 01:45:00,734
Lock her up!

2002
01:45:00,801 --> 01:45:02,068
Lock her up!

2003
01:45:02,135 --> 01:45:03,704
Lock her up!

2004
01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:04,871
Lock her up!

2005
01:45:04,938 --> 01:45:06,472
Lock her up!

2006
01:45:06,540 --> 01:45:07,541
Lock her up!

2007
01:45:10,644 --> 01:45:12,012
? It is ongoing.

2008
01:45:12,078 --> 01:45:16,116
The Russians efforts here
are continuing as we speak.

2009
01:45:16,182 --> 01:45:17,684
? We've done zero.

2010
01:45:17,751 --> 01:45:20,821
Absolutely nothing to protect us

2011
01:45:20,887 --> 01:45:24,525
from a future cyber?attack
with respect to any election.

2012
01:45:24,591 --> 01:45:25,358
Zero.

2013
01:45:25,425 --> 01:45:26,727
We haven't done anything.

2014
01:45:26,793 --> 01:45:28,929
? As long as people can
do things without penalty

2015
01:45:28,995 --> 01:45:31,732
they're going to
continue to do them.

2016
01:45:31,798 --> 01:45:33,634
? We all have a stake
because it may have been

2017
01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:35,101
the Democrats and me this time.

2018
01:45:35,168 --> 01:45:38,071
It can be the Republicans and
their candidate next time.

2019
01:45:38,138 --> 01:45:40,440
? Every single national security
official we've talked to

2020
01:45:40,507 --> 01:45:42,576
has said they're coming back.

2021
01:45:42,643 --> 01:45:43,744
We have to be ready for that.

2022
01:45:43,810 --> 01:45:45,646
? And if the people
don't demand that.

2023
01:45:45,712 --> 01:45:47,881
If they don't demand
that our sovereignty

2024
01:45:47,948 --> 01:45:51,117
needs to be defended, our
representatives in Congress

2025
01:45:51,184 --> 01:45:53,820
are gonna kind of look
the other way and move on.

2026
01:45:53,887 --> 01:45:56,890
? What's at stake is truth.

2027
01:45:56,957 --> 01:46:01,828
What's at stake is government
that's accountable to us.

2028
01:46:01,895 --> 01:46:03,930
And the cause of liberty

2029
01:46:03,997 --> 01:46:07,968
at the most profound
level possible.

2030
01:46:08,034 --> 01:46:10,203
? We owe it to the people
who have fought for

2031
01:46:10,270 --> 01:46:12,639
and sacrificed
for this democracy

2032
01:46:12,706 --> 01:46:14,875
and to be guardians
of it and make sure

2033
01:46:14,941 --> 01:46:17,443
that we always have
free and fair elections.

2034
01:46:17,511 --> 01:46:19,980
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