Bygone Ahelp Logs

<I start out tabbed out of SS13 and looking when I hear a few bwoinks, seeing this one amidst 2 ahelps with catnip taking the other one.>

Request for Help: BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?) (DIBS) (PP) (JMP|EYE): So is it ok to call an emergency? No one seems to be listening to me about telecoms, and the station cant really function if emergency bluespace comms and regular comms are down

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Emergencies are for when the station is under a significant threat that will result in too much damage, or when the station or crew is so damaged they won't be able to function anymore. If just comms are down it's no cause to call emergency.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yet, its disabling the entire stations ability to communicate, not just with itself but with CC in the event of well, anything

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): And yes, telecoms is to the point where its so damaged it will not function anymore if its not stopped

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, but does it cause damage to the station or cause crew casualties?

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, since its part of the station

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): No, it doesn't. There is no need for emergency if just telecomms is damaged.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): But its physically connected to the station

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Im not asking for EVAC im asking for an ERT

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): You will need command approval.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): The only command officer just got shot in the head

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): And every moment of delay is another moment we cant communcate with CC

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): This is an emergency, the defintion of it

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Emergencies are for threats, not damage. ERT isn't called if a stray meteor hits the station, only if that meteor splits the station in half and engineering is absent then you might call an ERT on it.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Bullshit its not

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Engineering and medical, hell janitoral ERTs are a thing

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Now I know you just dont know what I'm talking about or you are just lying. Can I talk to someone else?

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, ERTs are only for situations the crew cannot recover from themselves.

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): This is hardly such a situation.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, but all the same, please

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): You're not getting someone else, all mods and admins can see this.

<missed an emergency message from AI (bygone) to central because I was looking at my keyboard typing something and it doesn't give an audio cue>

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yea well, your wrong, I explained why you are wrong. Since you dont seem to think or consider that I have a point, I dont see a real reason to communcate further.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): ' its not an emergency' lol what

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Like I said, it's not enough of an emergency to call ERT on.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): uhuh, who answers Emergency messages?

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Your bias since you could say no just because you dont like me for being smart with you. Lets let other admins deal with it

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Do not take up an attitude with staff, thank you. It's a very quick way to warnings or bans.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): I politely asked for another admin to help me

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): I am showing you respect, but you dont seem to show me any

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): And the attitude didnt exist, and the fact you are now threatening me only makes it more clear you shouldnt handle my issue

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): I ahelped with a question remember

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): And like I said, all mods and admins can see this, if they think I'm in the wrong here, they will tell me. And yes, I answered your question, and you defied my answer.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): defied how?

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): I gave you an answer and you first reaction was "that's bs".

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Then you tried to deconstruct my answer and ask for another admin to get your way. It's not happening.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Because you were saying its not an emergency, and that ERT arent called for damages

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): The ERT are called for damages, this is a fact

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): So you didnt know what I was talking about or you were lying when you said that they werent

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Damages that the crew cannot recover from by themselves, yes.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): You added that after I brought it up

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Can you please just get another admin? I really dont want to talk circles. Please please please?

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Not happening. All that will happen is they will tell you the same thing and you will try to talk them in circles into another admin until you get your way. We're not doing this.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Not at all.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Emergencies are for threats, not damage. ERT isn't called if a stray meteor hits the station, only if that meteor splits the station in half and engineering is absent then you might call an ERT on it.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Is what you said

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): That is factually wrong

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, and if there is so much damage that it becomes a threat, then an ERT is called.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Can you please just get another admin?

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): IT doesnt have to be damage jesus

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Medical ERT hell janitoral ERT

<Between this and the following PM I finally get to hear that there is a blob, from sleepy who tells me in Msay.>

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): My point is you are so concluded to me not even being in the slightest possible iota of being right AT ALL that you are completely dismissing anything I bring up. Im not going to circle talk with another admin. I am going to ask them the same question I asked you, and you demonstrated that you didnt know how to answer.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Other ERT's exist

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Okay, so, only now it's been brought to my attention that there's a blob in there too. I was under the assumption that there were just some damaged machines in Tcomms.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): This is why I wanted another admin

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): You didn't tell me there was a blob either. I can't act on information I don't have.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): In the moments of our conversations or my question rather did you even stop to consider why telecoms was damaged, was going to be damaged for the entire round?

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Had I known this, then I would have said yes, call an ERT because the blob is an active threat. Not sure how viable calling one is with the transfer shuttle on the way now however.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Sure, but im making a complaint the same, this is just an excuse

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): All I was told was there was Tcomms damage, not that there was something actively destroying it.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Which means you failed to even investigate my question at all and jumped straight to telling me no

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Which means your bias

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): No, it means I acted on the info you gave me.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): I referenced what I was saying about telecoms as the AI, you didnt even look at that?

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): You didnt care to give me an answer

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): So is it ok to call an emergency? No one seems to be listening to me about telecoms, and the station cant really function if emergency bluespace comms and regular comms are down

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Yes, with a blob actively eating the station and the crew unable to contain it. With the round ending however I wouldn't expect a response team actually coming.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): That was my first question

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): So why didnt you look at what I was asking you about?

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Because your question seemed clear and didn't look like it needed investigation. Your question came over as "Hey can I call ERT because Tcomms is damaged?" Nothing about an active blob threat was mentioned.

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Seems like an excuse and leap fo logic to me. I am a regular player. You know this, why would I ahelp about calling an ERT if it wasnt serious

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Ahelping to call an ERT

  [Player PM] BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): Even

  to BygoneHero/(Artemis)(?): This discussion is not for ahelps, if you want to ask me this, go to discord.

<End, I didn't receive any PMs after this, neither on server nor on discord.>