Why We Left The Vaktovian Empire

Due to the substantial amount of people curious as to the details of our departing from the Empire, we will be releasing the information.
A disclaimer, this forum will be obviously bias- We understand many people love the Vaktovian Empire, the way it works, and it’s way of functioning works out for those specific people.


When we became Privates, a whole new world was opened from what we had experienced. An “all eyes on you” type thing. From there, it’s up to you what friend group you get into, what path you will take, etc. There was a moment when Naaslarum and I were L2’s. There was a meeting/speech type thing held by Hunter7777 when he was a general. He stated that there were a few ways to get promoted in this empire. You know “Working hard, going to EVERY training”. And his last way: “Making friends with the high ranks or Generals.” Naas and I vowed from that moment forward not to make friends. We weren’t going to move up the ranks for being friendly or social with people.
Once we hit private, there were a lot of problems straight off the bat. Private First Class HateHouse harassed us from the start. When Arcon shut down, many of their members came to VAC, and HateHouse and his friends were quick to jump on the opportunity.

<16:53:45> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: Hate and oSahs are talking about you and Naas in a different TS3.
<16:54:26> You poked "[PVT] ForgedVoid" with message: In a bad way..?
<16:54:40> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: Yeah, I abandoned it after they started though.
<16:54:58> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: They're warning the visitor VACs about you guys and telling them to 'stay away'
<16:55:06> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: Because they're all on the SURGE TS3.
<16:56:47> You poked "[PVT] ForgedVoid" with message: Who was there? In the chat with them?
<16:57:14> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: A lot.
<16:57:22> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: I'll get a screenshot now
<16:57:57> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: /b8fcafd72d3433ffe57725eeb3e8c06d (gyo)
<17:00:09> "[PVT] ForgedVoid" pokes you: Just thought you'd want to know, although you probably expected it..

So, with this evidence, we went to General Myani with the issue. We knew we couldn’t just keep letting this stuff go on. General Myani’s answer was “You two are good loyal soldiers. You keep doing what you’re doing. I’ll talk to HateHouse about this.” and that’s it. I have no logs because every time I asked to speak via Teamspeak or STEAM, he sort of skipped around the question and we ended up talking in the Emperor’s throne room at the Rec Centre.

After that, people started giving Hatehouse a ridiculous amount of power. For example, the ability to choose raid squads and give all the raid commanders his input on who’s “worthy” and who isn’t. Obviously, we weren’t picked and that then created bias. We never hung out in chatrooms so who knows what else was said about us or discussed there.
I guess as we got to Private First Class/Corporal the desperation to degrade and shut us down got even stronger. The FOA war came, and of course the bias against us raiding FOA continued. So, if we can’t raid, we shall help train the VACs so they can be prepared. After meeting with Senior Colonel DevilishPyro and Colonel TheStalinator, we were able to host/co-host some VAC trainings. We purely wanted to help prepare the VACs. We noticed FOA was training at SHII day in and day out, VAC-VAK were having half the trainings FOA was having. FOA was winning much more than VAK was, too. Okay, so if VAK isn’t going to train VAC, we will. We had already co-hosted a VAC training before with Scelus, and hosted one under DevilishPyro’s supervision. Anyway, 8 minutes into a VAC-only defense training HateHouse gets in contact with the Supreme General and our training gets shut down and we aren’t allowed to host anything. Yes, I understand “Corporals aren’t to be hosting anything”. Directly after the training gets shut down we are notified that we are “under investigation by the OO”.

For writing this next paragraph we will most likely be blacklisted from ever entering the Empire again, but here it goes.

Once moved into the Obsidian Order chatroom, we’re told the usual jist “If I find out anything spoken inside this room has left this room you will be exiled on the spot. Is this understood?” and then the questioning/interrogation began. Apparently, people had been reporting Naas and I doing inappropriate things such as “kissing” or “holding hands” in the Rec Centre. We told Danthein of all the harassment that had been occurring, and told him that we had already talked to VeitMyani about all of it, and that Veit said he’d handle it. Danthein seemed totally unknowing about all of this. That meaning General Myani didn’t even bother bringing the matter up to the OO at all. Danthein listed a bunch of HateHouse’s friends and asked us if they harassed us at all too. Now what that told us is that the people sending these false reports of us doing such things were probably along the lines of the people he listed, and HateHouse. Here’s some evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_4iz_ZUZtA   I don’t see why he would’ve been standing in front of where our 1 stud spacing is if he wasn’t trying to screenshot and frame us or whatever. I have no evidence to who actually submitted these false claims but whoever did, it put a terrible mark on our personal records, and again, held us down from progressing. We even got in trouble for going to the interview offices in order to see if people were trying to follow us or whatever.

Not only that, but I was also framed by him for “lagswitching” the video and evidence of that false claim can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AVA74iajNU

A few weeks after or so HateHouse is demoted to L1R for whatever. He pretty much goes 100% inactive and keeps [PFC] as his TS3 tag. A month or two later, Guardians open up to Private First Classes, and directly after that HateHouse got promoted back to Private First Class.
So alright, we’ve got people against us- but whatever. Karma will handle them, we’ll continue serving the Empire.
And again, it repeats. Guardians open up to Private First Classes. HateHouse is the first to enter. Naas and I join shortly after because we really enjoyed defending SMO. From that point on, people would usually join our channels and call us lovebirds or whatnot. This was an issue for us because the OO/VeitMyani warned us to keep our “personal matters out of the Empire’s”. And That’s what we were doing. For all those people at the Rec Centre who asked us if we were dating and we didn’t reply anything, that is why. By answering you, we risked exilement. That was another issue HateHouse interfered on, because when Visitors would ask him, he would tell them “They’re dating” instead of allowing us to answer ourselves and he’d spread the word in the TS3 (I Know this because people would say “hate said they’re dating”) telling everyone we’re dating. We tried just keeping it to ourselves because that’s what the OO told us, and we were trying to abide by those rules, but it gets out of hand when people are in TS3 debating who we are or our relation to each other. I don’t blame them, they didn’t know we had this policy set on us of “keeping stuff to ourselves or else exile”.
So moving on, we were in the Guardian Channel just about 5 days ago and HateHouse and Tivar joined. My speakers were muted, Naas’ mic was muted. HateHouse said “ugh i dont care, demon is going to have to get rid of these oders” and then Hate said “I don’t care if they can hear me, they’re muted.”  Naas poked Hate and said “Am I muted?” and then their mics went to like a disabled setting meaning they went in a different TS3. After a few moments Tivar unmuted his mic and said “Ugh don’t call me an oder hatehouse dont call me like that” (Obviously a cover-up).
We told Danthein.
No Reply.

During our last day in the Empire, a group of randoms, the usual ones that have been raiding SMO, decided to raid SMO. The defense commander picked his favorite Guardians, all Vaktovians and Vanguards, but not Naas and I.
We sent multiple requests to speak to Veit, and he ignored all of them. There's a lot of favoritism that you never really realize till it’s thrown in your face.

We told Ttom about it and everything that had been going on two days before we left, his reply was just “I’ll look into it”. From past experience, we knew what that meant.

To all the people telling us or thinking that “if there’s a problem you should move forward and fix it”:
It is impossible to fix something that the Generals refuse to acknowledge.


One of my biggest issues was the fact that besides everyone being out to get each other at some degree, people just degrade each other. It’s not okay for someone to join an already existing defense and say “Oh we gotta get better people here you guys aren’t good enough for this.” The people who go to trainings and events should be allowed to raid. You shouldn’t have to call in people skipping training for CS:GO to defend or raid. Especially against random raiders, no matter how many “good gunfighters” they have. When you have 35 people in a rally centre, you don’t grab 5 of them and then call 5 others via STEAM to come.
If you choose a raid team, and all but 1-2 get in the server and some two of your favorite friends get in the server and fill up the spot of the existing raid team, you don’t sit there and ignore the person asking you why someone took their place.
If someone pokes you asking for the link to the base you’re going to raid because their browser is too slow and they know someone will take their spot for the tenth time, you don’t ignore that person.

And for the love of god, just because one person in the enemy team is aimbotting or glitching when they shouldn’t, you don’t tell your VACs and VAKs to “fling while they aren’t looking” or “it’s ok if they’re doing it you can do it back to them”.

The lack of respect and honor sickened me, I’m not interested in being part of a pack of hungry wolves that would sacrifice the well-being of their troops for a raid win.

The good people that realize what’s wrong with VAK usually ends up retiring/leaving because they get annoyed or whatsoever of the same situation that isn't getting fixed. While the other standard members who are just a bunch of social butterflies and does not acknowledge what's wrong because the system just keeps favoriting them and they don't really care.
People who plays by the rules end up in a bad situation and the people who does what they want and don't respect anyone pretty much gains everything and are allowed to stay in the clan.

By far this was the worst experience we had in Roblox, we remember in VAK they ( the usual social butterflies) would always trash talk the other groups, but in other groups you are not treated degenerates. You are not discriminated. You are not hold your mistake forever. Things like that are what really screws up this group that we really loved until we realized all of this.

And to end up:
The people that would like to just ignore all what we just typed it and would rather skip and type "lol u guys suck gtfo" - give us your phone number and we'll call you when we give a crap.

We were framed by Vaktovians multiple times, got put under investigation by the OO, and mocked for what we stood for.
We'll find a group worth of having our dedication and hard work and stick with it, thanks for reading.

ps danthein and stalin are the only useful officers in the vaktovian empire


-Naaslarum & Voslaaarum