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- Summary:
- This is a revision to the Typhlosion route in Pokemon Colosseum, which is the fastest known route. In this new route, you take five intentional deaths in the Shadow Pokemon lab, much like in the No Snags category. You lose a lot of experience, which makes some fights slower and/or riskier. It's debatable whether this route is faster than the current route, since Typhlosion does the lab fights pretty quickly and hits a lot of time-saving levels because of the experience gained. My current calculations say it saves 4 seconds on average.
- New runners probably shouldn't try this strat because it's slightly riskier overall and doesn't save time unless your lab menus and movement are clean. Experienced runners might find that this strat can help them compete for top times, especially if they have a Typhlosion with a +Sp. Attack nature.
- This strat saves significantly more time with the Feraligatr route, which was once thought to be faster than Typhlosion. However, recent routing and runs have shown that Typhlosion is much faster than we thought, so it should still maintain a clear edge.
- Details:
- - Intentionally lose to 5 Cipher Peons in the lab with Plusle; respawn at the lab PC
- - Lose ~8k experience on Espeon and ~10k experience on Typhlosion
- - Every fight can still be done the same, but some ranges and speed marks are less likely to hit, so it's optimal to use safety strats such as Meditite lead on Miror B. 2
- - Equip Exp. Share 4 fights earlier on Mt. Battle to get L47 (Psychic) for Coren. Typhlosion will usually miss some levels on Mt. Battle (38 for Spinda/Kadabra, 38 for Sandslash, 39 for Geodude, 39 for Metang), but it's only ~10 seconds of time loss on average
- - Skip cave Ethers since you don't need to replenish Psychic and Fire Blast PP in the lab; need to keep Psybeam and use it 3-5 times to accomplish this (teach Psychic over Return)
- - This strat saves significantly more time with great Typhlosions:
- > A +Sp. Atk nature with 25-31 IV saves ~42 seconds (37 more than the average Typhlosion)
- > A +Sp. Atk nature with 22-24 IV saves ~25-35 seconds
- > A +Sp. Atk nature with 20-21 IV saves ~15-20 seconds
- > A neutral nature with 26 IV Speed and 26 IV Sp. Atk saves ~12 seconds
- - Other stat notes:
- > A neutral nature Typhlosion with less than 26 IV Speed should consider doing the normal route (no intentional deaths)
- > A high IV +Sp. Atk Typhlosion with less than 16 IV Speed should consider doing the normal route
- > Espeons with HP Grass 66-68 (especially 66-67) should consider doing the normal route (get L50 for Claydol)
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- Time breakdown
- (assumes all the latest strats from ryziken's notes -- skip plusle protect, use meditite for late game, get 1 calcium for typhlosion)
- early exp. share (+8) (+0 top end)
- save x special on aipom fight (-2) (-0 top end)
- deathwarp: 12:31 vs. 14:05 (-94s) (-81 top end)
- some fire blast/psychic pp saved -- skip ethers and keep psybeam (-8) (-8 top end)
- harder to get/keep blaze (+4) (+0 top end)
- FIGHTS:
- myron -- can fb voltorb with no cost (-2) (-0 top end)
- kotan -- worse ampharos range + need higher espeon speed (+2) (+0 top end)
- remil -- worse kadabra fw and kecleon ranges, sometimes slower than kadabra (+18) (+11 top end)
- skrub 2 -- worse range on wobbuffet (+11) (+14 top end)
- ein 1 -- worse lanturn range, sometimes slower than golbat (+8) (+0 top end)
- miror b 2 -- worse loudred fw and ludicolo ranges (+17) (+29 top end)
- dakim 2 -- claydol range for all combos, and more costly L50 for claydol/flygon (+10) (+0 top end)
- baila -- worse sunflora range (+2) (+0 top end)
- venus 2 -- worse bellossom fw range and suicune psychic range, more likely to die when you miss (+4) (+0 top end)
- arton -- identical
- ein 2 -- can't do fast typhlosion strat as often (+1) (+5 top end)
- dioge -- identical
- klest -- worse fw lombre range if case 2-3 (+1) (+0 top end)
- gonzap -- identical
- jomas -- identical
- delan -- worse absol range (+2) (+0 top end)
- nella -- worse houndoom range and speed mark (+2) (+0 top end)
- ston -- worse tropius and cradily ranges (+1) (+0 top end)
- nascour -- slightly worse gardevoir and metagross ranges (+2) (+0 top end)
- evice -- slightly worse ranges (+2) (+0 top end)
- TOTAL: 5 seconds saved (27 for top end)
- can psybeam:
- - vibrava if you x spec
- - swellow
- - golbat
- - gloom
- - delibird
- - piloswine
- - pelipper
- - crobat
- - ariados
- - heracross
- - lombre/hariyama (not needed?)
- - hariyama
- - vileplume
- early exp. share time breakdown:
- - graveler range: +1.4 seconds
- - L37 spinda/kadabra: +3.7 seconds (don't always get L38 on old route)
- - trapinch range: +1.5 seconds
- - vibrava range + L37 sandslash: +5.4 seconds (can get L38 with high exp + mantine or highest exp)
- - geodude range: +0.5 seconds (only a range with <23 sp. atk; don't always get L39 on old route)
- - metang range: +1.0 seconds (only a range with <23 sp. atk; don't always get L39 on old route)
- - venus ranges: +0.8 seconds
- - gligar range/outspeed: +1.0 seconds
- - stantler range/outspeed: +0.2 seconds
- - seviper range: +0.3 seconds
- - sometimes miss L41 kadabra: +0.5 seconds
- - harder to miss psybeam for graveler: -0.2 seconds
- - L40/41 venus: -0.6 seconds
- - L41 gligar: -0.1 seconds
- - L42 stantler: -0.8 seconds
- - L43 loudred: -0.6 seconds
- - L47 coren: -18 seconds
- - save 1 x special: -3 seconds
- - faster deathwarp: ??? (probably not worth attempting)
- TOTAL: 7.0s saved over normal exp. share
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- Miscellaneous notes
- 1 calcium on espeon:
- - 71-->82% on vibrava if you delay menu until right before fight
- - 132-->133 sp. atk for entei
- - 138-->140 sp. atk for suicune
- - 138-->140 sp. atk for gligar
- - 143-->144 sp. atk for stantler
- - 53-->65% on octillery with hp grass 67 (or 47-->53% with hp grass 66)
- - 159-->160 sp. atk for psychic on typhlosion (for deathwarp or blaze)
- - 88-->94% on lanturn
- - improve claydol range by 6% or 12%, depending on hidden power and level
- - improve +0 flygon range if going for that
- - 171-->173 sp. atk for suicune
- - 185-->188 sp. atk for metagross
- - 190-->192 sp. atk for evice
- alternate exp. share route (bad):
- - equip exp. share after 1st mt. battle fight (gets psybeam for numel)
- - remove exp. share for weeg (guarantees vibrava, gives L38 for geodude)
- - equip exp. share for kison (gives L44 after voltorbs)
- - give spoon to espeon before voltorbs if you don't want to waste ~440 typhlosion exp.
- - 3 candies to L47 for coren
- hidden power notes:
- fire 65+
- - gligar (same as old route)
- - jigglypuff (same as old route)
- - kirlia with bad attack (same as old route)
- - masquerain (same as old route)
- - voltorb (same as old route)
- - linoone/vigoroth (WORSE than old route)
- - can safely ohko kadabra in blaze (BETTER than old route)
- - can safely ohko loudred in blaze (BETTER than old route)
- - can safely ohko sunflora in blaze (BETTER than old route)
- - safer delan (BETTER than old route)
- - metagross (same as old route)
- water
- - similar (more value from eq skip)
- grass
- - worse (no remoraid, pupitar, rhyhorn, can't ohko whiscash)
- ice
- - not worth getting?
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