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  1. [20:38:09] <Mojacko> =========================================================================
  2. [20:38:19] <Kertajaya> ketcong = Mojacko, waketcong = silfumus, sekretaris = miss_allsunday
  3. [20:38:20] <Mojacko> ====RAPAT DIMULAI=========================
  4. [20:38:35] <Mojacko> agenda rapat kali ini adalah :
  5. [20:38:48] <Mojacko> pembentukan perangkat kongres
  6. [20:38:58] <Mojacko> dan pembahasan msalah urgent dari Presiden
  7. [20:39:22] <Mojacko> selanjutnya langsung saja Presiden joan menyampaikan permasalahannya untuk didiskusikan rame2
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  10. [20:39:40] <Mojacko> pres joan
  11. [20:39:46] <Mojacko> waktu dan tempat
  12. [20:39:50] <Mojacko> dipersilahkan
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  14. [20:40:35] <&Aishwarya> [F16Fighter] Orang paling ganteng masuk.. semua tepuk tangan.. plok.plok.plok..
  15. [20:40:35] Aishwarya [Aishwarya@bollywood.owns.me] has set mode +o F16Fighter
  16. [20:40:41] <Mojacko> joan: langsung aja
  17. [20:40:44] <@F16Fighter> ada rapat ya?
  18. [20:40:52] <Mojacko> F16Fighter: iya silahkan duduk
  19. [20:41:03] <Mojacko> ========================HAP=============================
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  21. [20:41:56] <@F16Fighter> eh ada pak pres..
  22. [20:42:03] <joan> mana
  23. [20:42:03] <@F16Fighter> joan: o/
  24. [20:42:08] <joan> o/ F16Fighter
  25. [20:42:19] <joan> udah jadwal gw ngmg?
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  27. [20:42:22] <Mojacko> joan: mulai lah.. apa yang mau didiskusikan sama kongre
  28. [20:42:27] <Mojacko> dah dari tadi gw kasih
  29. [20:42:30] palmrest_|away nyimak. 20 menit belum dapet apa-apa
  30. [20:42:39] <Mojacko> ===============PRES joan Silahkan=====================
  31. [20:42:43] <joan> nah oke
  32. [20:42:47] <joan> malam semuanya
  33. [20:42:55] <@F16Fighter> malam
  34. [20:43:00] <joan> sebenarnya yg cukup urgent adalah masalah keuangan
  35. [20:43:04] <A|Way> siang
  36. [20:43:09] <joan> http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/Indonesia
  37. [20:43:25] <joan> dibaca di link itu treasury hanya 803k idr
  38. [20:43:36] <joan> seminggu lalu sekitar 1,1 idr
  39. [20:43:53] <joan> brarti ada penurunan skitar 300k idr per minggu
  40. [20:44:09] <joan> kalo dibiarkan berarti skitar 3 minggu lagi treasury kita 0
  41. [20:44:29] <joan> gw sbg pres mengusulkan untuk melakukan perubahan pada tax
  42. [20:44:36] <joan> baik penurunan ataupun kenaikan
  43. [20:44:45] <joan> jadi yg gw perhatiin
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  45. [20:45:11] <joan> ketika weekend pendapatan kita sangat turun drastis
  46. [20:45:20] <joan> hanya ke angka kira2 60k idr pemasukan sehari
  47. [20:45:33] <joan> dan target gw MINIMAL
  48. [20:45:46] <joan> sehari 150k idr pemasukan untuk mengisi treasury
  49. [20:46:13] <joan> nah Mojacko sbg ketcong silahkan dilempar ke floor dulu untuk didiskusikan tax mana yg kira2 stuju untuk dinaikkan
  50. [20:46:22] <Mojacko> udah joan ?
  51. [20:46:29] <A|Way> tax wepon
  52. [20:46:32] <@masbro> o/
  53. [20:46:35] <Mojacko> sekarang tax jadi per ITEM bukan joan ?
  54. [20:46:40] <Mojacko> sebentar dulu
  55. [20:46:41] <A|Way> vat wepon jd 10%
  56. [20:46:53] <Mojacko> satu2 tunjuk tangan
  57. [20:46:56] <joan> http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/Indonesia bisa baca tax masing2 disini
  58. [20:47:07] <Mojacko> ======================STOP=============================
  59. [20:47:15] <Mojacko> tunjuk tangan dulu kayak masbro
  60. [20:47:27] <Mojacko> masbro: silahkan ada yang mau disampaikan ?
  61. [20:47:34] <@masbro> income tax up to 20%, VAT max 15% aja
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  64. [20:47:51] <@masbro> knp income d tinggiin
  65. [20:47:53] A|Way setuju sama masbro
  66. [20:48:03] <@masbro> karena hampir semuanya work tiap hari
  67. [20:48:12] <@masbro> klo perlu ky dl lg income tax 25%
  68. [20:48:33] <@masbro> tp VAT bagusnya d set d 10%
  69. [20:48:54] <Mojacko> masbro: ibasnya ke nubi gimana ?
  70. [20:48:55] <@masbro> klo d taro d atas itu orang lebih sering jual d blackmarket
  71. [20:48:58] <Mojacko> *imbas
  72. [20:49:46] <Mojacko> kalo buat pemain lama misalkan gw,, gak kerja pun gak masalah karna masih bisa jualan WRM
  73. [20:50:01] <Mojacko> jadi income tax 50% juga gak masalah
  74. [20:50:04] <@masbro> lah nubi jg skrng pd wnt sndr buat food
  75. [20:50:21] <@masbro> gw rasa mereka msh bs survive lah
  76. [20:50:25] <A|Way> keknya nanti gajinya mengikuti tax
  77. [20:50:29] <A|Way> =))
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  79. [20:50:39] <@masbro> lagian skrng minimum wage udah d set 150idr
  80. [20:50:51] <@masbro> jd mau gk mau kita genjot pemasukan dr income tax
  81. [20:50:54] <Mojacko> oke masbro lanjut dulu deh
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  83. [20:51:26] <Mojacko> masbro: udah ?
  84. [20:51:29] <@masbro> dah
  85. [20:51:46] <Mojacko> jadi dari masbro idenya Income tax 25% dan VAT di 10%
  86. [20:51:51] <Mojacko> bukan begitu masbro ?
  87. [20:52:01] <@masbro> income 20% vat 10%
  88. [20:52:18] <Mojacko>  masbro : Income tax 20% dan VAT di 10%
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  90. [20:52:28] <&Aishwarya> [Dika] WANI PIRO ? Two Is Better Than One...!!!!
  91. [20:52:28] Aishwarya [Aishwarya@bollywood.owns.me] has set mode +o Dika
  92. [20:52:32] <Mojacko> ada yang mau nambahin atau ada ide lain ?
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  94. [20:52:50] <joan> getok Mojacko
  95. [20:53:01] <joan> kalo ga digetok ga nyaut kek biasa :s
  96. [20:53:19] <Mojacko> kayaknya pada boker
  97. [20:53:27] <Mojacko> joan: getoknya gmn ?
  98. [20:53:28] <Mojacko> -_-"
  99. [20:53:30] <@masbro> .all
  100. [20:53:35] <@masbro> :p
  101. [20:53:35] <A|Way> well
  102. [20:53:40] <A|Way> gw sih setuju
  103. [20:53:40] <@masbro> gk bs
  104. [20:53:42] <Mojacko> sok getokin lah
  105. [20:53:53] <A|Way> gaji nanti ngikutin ke 300an :p
  106. [20:54:09] <A|Way> karna harga Tank pastinya naek
  107. [20:54:19] <A|Way> wrm juga naek dikit
  108. [20:54:20] <A|Way> =))
  109. [20:54:21] <Mojacko> oke,, tapi impactnya seberapa besar dari kenaikan income tax itu joan kira2
  110. [20:54:25] <@gullivers> :D
  111. [20:54:36] <joan> ya kecenderungan pasti gaji naik ke angka 300
  112. [20:54:43] <Mojacko> berapa % pemasukan negara bisa naik kalo kita naekin jadi 20%
  113. [20:54:46] <joan> kayak dulu pas renago naikin VAT
  114. [20:55:12] <@masbro> dl bukanny income yg d naikin jd 25%
  115. [20:55:25] <joan> eh iya income 25%
  116. [20:55:32] <joan> pengaruhnya lumayan dulu
  117. [20:55:38] <A|Way> buset VAT 25% xD
  118. [20:55:39] <@masbro> klo mau d naikin k 25% lg jg gk masalah seh
  119. [20:55:49] <joan> bisa mendekati 140k idr pemasukan sehari
  120. [20:55:51] <@masbro> alasannya kan logis dan gk mengada2
  121. [20:55:52] <A|Way> BM xD
  122. [20:55:56] <joan> dulu gw prnh itung bareng bibin surpei
  123. [20:56:08] <A|Way> 10% aja dah pd nyari BMan
  124. [20:56:20] <Mojacko> oke joan itu asumsi naikin 20%income tax dan salary di 300 IDR ?
  125. [20:56:29] <Mojacko> am I correct ?
  126. [20:56:35] <@masbro> nah mkny bagusnya d genjot d income tax bukan VAT
  127. [20:56:47] <A|Way> iyaa
  128. [20:56:49] <@masbro> vat d set 10% aja
  129. [20:56:52] <silfumus> VAT 25%, harga tank Q5 40 IDR, Q6 50 IDR
  130. [20:56:54] <joan> salary ikutin pasar Mojacko kalo income naik 20 / 25%
  131. [20:56:56] <joan> VAT tetep aja
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  133. [20:56:59] <&Aishwarya> [Polpot] DEK, ABANG BAWA KONDOM NI!!!
  134. [20:56:59] Aishwarya [Aishwarya@bollywood.owns.me] has set mode +o Polpot
  135. [20:57:10] <A|Way> silfumus ga bkl
  136. [20:57:13] <A|Way> BM palingan D
  137. [20:57:21] <A|Way> joan jng
  138. [20:57:22] <silfumus> A|Way: itu harga dulu
  139. [20:57:26] <A|Way> sayang :s
  140. [20:57:33] <@Polpot> maaf telat :D
  141. [20:57:36] <A|Way> silfumus dulu tuh banyak yg BM --"
  142. [20:57:40] <@masbro> joan: gk d naikin aj VATnya?
  143. [20:58:03] <@masbro> VAT naik harga makin naik otomatis gaji pegawai jg naik
  144. [20:58:07] <arale> "Welcome at Indonesian Radio's (RERI) || CopyPaste this link http://110.232.72.70:8051/ at your Music Player to listen the Radio's RERI || ON AIR: Arale | Theme : Wednesday Rythem Request | yang mau request by pm”
  145. [20:58:18] <A|Way> iya
  146. [20:58:28] <@masbro> tp ya itu amannya d 10%
  147. [20:58:34] <joan> masbro: VAT bagian mana? food / wepen?
  148. [20:58:36] <A|Way> supaya sesuai kenaikan gaji-VAT-Income
  149. [20:58:39] <@masbro> klo d atas itu pd lari k BM smua
  150. [20:58:52] <A|Way> joan dua"nya
  151. [20:58:53] <@masbro> joan: yup food & wepen
  152. [20:58:54] <A|Way> :3
  153. [20:59:02] <@masbro> sm house klo bs 15%
  154. [20:59:07] <silfumus> VAT kalo bisa jgn naik lah, dampak negatifnya lebih kerasa daripada naikin income yax
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  156. [20:59:09] <silfumus> *tax
  157. [20:59:17] <A|Way> masbro house dah 25%
  158. [20:59:17] <A|Way> xD
  159. [20:59:21] <@masbro> oh udah
  160. [20:59:28] <joan> iya house udah tinggi bener
  161. [20:59:33] <@masbro> kirain d reset kmrn :p
  162. [20:59:41] <Mojacko> oke kita lock dulu biar cepet
  163. [20:59:45] <Mojacko> =============================================================
  164. [20:59:54] <Mojacko> untuk kenaikan Income tax 20% ada yang keberatan ?
  165. [21:00:00] <Mojacko> satu2 kita bahasnya
  166. [21:00:04] <Mojacko> biar cepet
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  168. [21:00:16] <A|Way> ga ada :p
  169. [21:00:18] <Mojacko> sekali lagi
  170. [21:00:20] <Mojacko> untuk kenaikan Income tax 20% ada yang keberatan ?
  171. [21:00:20] <joan> No
  172. [21:00:25] <joan> ga keberatan
  173. [21:00:26] <Mojacko> 10 hitungan
  174. [21:00:29] <Mojacko> 10
  175. [21:00:32] <Mojacko> 9
  176. [21:00:34] <Mojacko> 8
  177. [21:00:35] <@gullivers> se 7
  178. [21:00:36] <Mojacko> 7
  179. [21:00:37] <@masbro> jgn 10 dunk Mojacko
  180. [21:00:37] <Mojacko> 6
  181. [21:00:39] <DvipaNusantara> sampe dimana ini?
  182. [21:00:41] <@masbro> 1000 aja
  183. [21:00:43] <Mojacko> 5
  184. [21:00:47] <arale> gw ga keberatan
  185. [21:00:49] <Mojacko> masbro: gw keburu cepirit
  186. [21:00:52] <@masbro> XD
  187. [21:00:57] <si_petung> 4
  188. [21:01:04] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: kita berencana menaikan income tax ke 20% untuk menaikan pemasukan negara
  189. [21:01:04] <DvipaNusantara> 1000
  190. [21:01:05] <@Polpot> 3
  191. [21:01:05] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: kita berencana menaikan income tax ke 20% untuk menaikan pemasukan negara
  192. [21:01:07] <@Polpot> 2
  193. [21:01:14] <@Polpot> 1
  194. [21:01:25] <Mojacko> gw ulang 10 hitungan
  195. [21:01:26] <Mojacko> 10
  196. [21:01:27] <Mojacko> 9
  197. [21:01:28] <Mojacko> 8
  198. [21:01:29] <Mojacko> 7
  199. [21:01:30] <Mojacko> 6
  200. [21:01:31] <Mojacko> 5
  201. [21:01:32] <Mojacko> 4
  202. [21:01:33] <Mojacko> 3
  203. [21:01:34] <Mojacko> 2
  204. [21:01:35] <Mojacko> 1
  205. [21:01:35] <DvipaNusantara> kalau income tax 20% ane ga setuju
  206. [21:01:39] <Mojacko> ===============================
  207. [21:01:42] <Mojacko> teeeet !!
  208. [21:01:47] <A|Way> anda kurang beruntung
  209. [21:01:51] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: kenapa ? singkat padat jelas ?
  210. [21:01:51] <A|Way> DvipaNusantara wkkwkkw
  211. [21:01:56] <joan> nah itu DvipaNusantara ga stuju kasi argumen
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  213. [21:02:24] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara:
  214. [21:02:28] <Mojacko> bah kemana dia
  215. [21:02:30] <DvipaNusantara> income tax 20% berat ke pekerja... income tax adjust 5-10%. Vat 10%
  216. [21:02:33] <@Polpot> teet setuju 12.5%
  217. [21:03:03] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: minimum income kan udah kita naikkan
  218. [21:03:05] <DvipaNusantara> vat food 5%, weapon 10-15%
  219. [21:03:15] <Mojacko> dari 7-150
  220. [21:03:16] <A|Way> Gaji bakalan nurut Income tax
  221. [21:03:17] <DvipaNusantara> minimum wage?
  222. [21:03:26] <A|Way> nanti naek ke 300an
  223. [21:03:27] <DvipaNusantara> sepakat
  224. [21:03:27] <joan> income tax segitu berat DvipaNusantara ga bakal nutup treasury
  225. [21:03:28] <Mojacko> dan minimum wage nanti akan menyesuaikan income tax baru
  226. [21:03:34] <Mojacko> sekitar 300
  227. [21:03:41] <Mojacko> so pemasukan pekerja lebih gede
  228. [21:03:48] <Mojacko> jadi all clear
  229. [21:03:50] <A|Way> logikanya tuh
  230. [21:03:51] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: ?
  231. [21:03:52] <DvipaNusantara> yg kita butuhkan itu war.... biar perputaran di market cepat
  232. [21:03:52] <A|Way> di erep
  233. [21:04:00] <A|Way> pegawai yg dicari" pengusaha
  234. [21:04:05] <A|Way> slow aja mangkanya :p
  235. [21:04:22] <@masbro> DvipaNusantara: klo war orang larinya pd k lograk
  236. [21:04:31] <joan> masbro: +1
  237. [21:04:31] <Mojacko> oke berarti fix yah VAT di 20% dan minimum wage akan sekitar 300 IDR
  238. [21:04:39] <A|Way> kalau war ntar kalah ntar rata ntar ....
  239. [21:04:41] <A|Way> xD
  240. [21:04:48] <Mojacko> ====================HAP KEBURU ANE CEPIRIT===================
  241. [21:04:50] <@masbro> yg ada treasury cepet abis
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  243. [21:04:52] <joan> dgn treasury tinggi war pun kita bisa supply via lograk
  244. [21:04:59] neo_Ryan iklan iklan
  245. [21:05:03] neo_Ryan jualan koran
  246. [21:05:04] <DvipaNusantara> vat 20% SETUJU
  247. [21:05:04] <neo_Ryan> http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ah-biar-kliatan-eksis-ya-bang-lol-1958616/1/20 << MO EKSIS?? JANGAN LEBAY PISS.. wkwkwkwk
  248. [21:05:06] <joan> semua diimbangin via treasury
  249. [21:05:07] <DvipaNusantara> income tax?
  250. [21:05:14] <Mojacko> jadi seali lagi Income Tax 20% Minimum salary 300
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  252. [21:05:15] <A|Way> DvipaNusantara Bah
  253. [21:05:17] <A|Way> Koplak
  254. [21:05:20] <A|Way> VAT 20%
  255. [21:05:21] <Mojacko> jadi seali lagi Income Tax 20% Minimum salary 300
  256. [21:05:22] <A|Way> ?
  257. [21:05:26] Mojacko jitak DvipaNusantara
  258. [21:05:31] <A|Way> BM cuy
  259. [21:05:37] <Mojacko> itu income tax loh bukan VAT
  260. [21:05:38] <Mojacko> -_-"
  261. [21:05:45] <silfumus> minimum wage tolong jgn dinaikin lagi
  262. [21:05:46] <Mojacko> ===================HAP=====================
  263. [21:05:59] <Mojacko> jadi seali lagi Income Tax 20%
  264. [21:06:00] <Mojacko> jadi seali lagi Income Tax 20%
  265. [21:06:02] <A|Way> silfumus dasar pengusaha tank :p
  266. [21:06:08] <A|Way> Mojacko setuju
  267. [21:06:12] <Mojacko> ada yang keberatan ???
  268. [21:06:18] <silfumus> A|Way: kulbat mau wamil kgk jadi2 nih
  269. [21:06:20] <Mojacko> oke
  270. [21:06:20] <DvipaNusantara> Mine wage jadi 300, ntar susah juga produksi? bukan begitu?
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  272. [21:06:29] <Richard213> http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/21234  <<<<  last round
  273. [21:06:29] <A|Way> silfumus xD
  274. [21:06:32] <Mojacko> ======================INCOME TAX 20% DEAL==========================
  275. [21:06:42] <Mojacko> next
  276. [21:06:47] <Mojacko> Minimum wage bagaimana ???
  277. [21:06:54] <A|Way> udah
  278. [21:06:55] <Mojacko> ========================MINIMUM WAGE=========================
  279. [21:06:56] <A|Way> segitu aja
  280. [21:06:57] <@masbro> udah diemin aja min wage
  281. [21:07:03] <@masbro> mo d apain lg
  282. [21:07:03] <A|Way> tp kasian yg wamil yah
  283. [21:07:05] <A|Way> xD
  284. [21:07:05] <DvipaNusantara> Minimum Wage = NO Change
  285. [21:07:23] <A|Way> tp kalo jd 300.... um... :p
  286. [21:07:23] <Mojacko> wamil sesuaikan supply senjatanya sama gajinya
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  288. [21:07:32] <DvipaNusantara> Pengusaha modal kecil ga idup
  289. [21:07:33] <joan> minimum wage udah pas
  290. [21:07:45] <A|Way> DvipaNusantara LoL
  291. [21:07:48] <Mojacko> atau tinggal dikasih diskon buat pembelian senjata bagi yang wamil
  292. [21:07:48] <@Polpot> DvipaNusantara: disuruh sama joan ke gedung merah
  293. [21:07:49] <Mojacko> beres kok
  294. [21:07:52] <@Polpot> :D)))))
  295. [21:07:55] <A|Way> Pengusaha Modal kecil mana yg masang di Job Market?
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  297. [21:07:56] <A|Way> wkkkwkwkw
  298. [21:07:56] <@gullivers> iya bener kata DvipaNusantara kalau pengusa tank ngikut, yg di bawah itu kasihan mereka
  299. [21:08:01] <A|Way> Semuanya Kompeni Tank
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  301. [21:08:16] <@masbro> A|Way: pasang buat sapi?
  302. [21:08:19] <Mojacko> so Income tax no Change ???
  303. [21:08:27] <Mojacko> sorry salah
  304. [21:08:29] <A|Way> masbro wkkwkwkwkw
  305. [21:08:34] <Mojacko> Minimum Wage 150
  306. [21:08:34] <joan> minimum wage skrg yg keberatan kan yg nyapi worker
  307. [21:08:35] <Mojacko> Minimum Wage 150
  308. [21:08:36] <Mojacko> Minimum Wage 150
  309. [21:08:38] <joan> kalo wamil ga masalah
  310. [21:08:39] <Mojacko> Minimum Wage 150
  311. [21:08:41] <A|Way> 300 o/
  312. [21:08:48] <A|Way> Joan +1
  313. [21:08:50] <DvipaNusantara> Minimum Wage = NO Change = 150 idr
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  315. [21:08:55] <A|Way> naikan jd 300 \o/
  316. [21:08:59] <@gullivers> menurut ane sementara biar segitu dulu, nanti liat perkembangannya pas jalan baru disiasatin lagi
  317. [21:09:05] <silfumus> pret, naikin aja 300 IDR, ane kompeni Q5 rugi parah. skrg aja cuman untuk 5 IDR
  318. [21:09:14] <silfumus> *untung 5 IDR
  319. [21:09:28] <A|Way> silfumus gw aja ga make pekerja untung banyak :p
  320. [21:09:35] <Mojacko> silfumus: coba2 naluri pedagangnya dikurangin dulu -_-"
  321. [21:09:42] <joan> dgn 150 idr min wage gw bisa narik30 idr buat income per orang dikali 1000 org mayan 30k idr :D
  322. [21:09:56] <Mojacko> so sepertinya setting 150 IDR minimum wage sementara masih cukup
  323. [21:09:57] <A|Way> joan :o
  324. [21:10:02] <Mojacko> karna baru dinaikkin kan kemarin ini
  325. [21:10:02] <A|Way> wah brarti ada sekitar 6000 sapi
  326. [21:10:04] <A|Way> xD
  327. [21:10:09] <Mojacko> kalo naik lagi pasti nanti banyak sinetronnya
  328. [21:10:20] <@masbro> dah lanjut minimum wage tetep 150id
  329. [21:10:24] <Mojacko> jadi minimum wage di 150 IDR
  330. [21:10:26] <Mojacko> jadi minimum wage di 150 IDR
  331. [21:10:34] <Mojacko> ====================MINIMUM WAGE 150 IDR=================
  332. [21:10:41] <joan> dah lanjut ke VAT
  333. [21:10:43] <Mojacko> next VAT weapon
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  335. [21:10:56] <Mojacko> gimana pendapatnya sekarang 10%
  336. [21:10:56] <A|Way> VAT 10-15% aja f&w
  337. [21:11:03] <Mojacko> perlu kita naikkin juga ?
  338. [21:11:08] <A|Way> lebih dr itu dah dipastiin BM
  339. [21:11:10] <@masbro> just like i said VAT 10% to f&w
  340. [21:11:19] <A|Way> harga juga bisa naek 2x lipat
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  342. [21:11:21] <silfumus> kalo income tax cukup buat menutupi kebutuhan, VAT jgn naik
  343. [21:11:33] <Mojacko> joan: kenaikan income tax aja cukup gak ?
  344. [21:11:34] <@gullivers> :D
  345. [21:11:34] <@gullivers> se 7
  346. [21:11:40] <joan> ya bener di atas 15% VAT wepen jg tegaan gw ga tega
  347. [21:11:56] <A|Way> hais xD
  348. [21:12:02] <@masbro> udah VAT 10% aj dah standar itu
  349. [21:12:14] <A|Way> Vat 10%
  350. [21:12:15] <Mojacko> kalo ketutup gak perlu kita naikin VATnya
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  352. [21:12:34] <joan> bntr Mojacko gw lg berhitung
  353. [21:12:36] <A|Way> Vat lebih berpengaruh lho
  354. [21:12:37] <Mojacko> oke
  355. [21:12:47] <A|Way> 1 tank kalo 10% bisa 4IDR
  356. [21:12:51] <A|Way> :3
  357. [21:12:53] DvipaNusantara income tax 10%, VAT 20%, min wage 150idr
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  359. [21:13:05] <A|Way> Q6
  360. [21:13:08] <joan> ya bener kata A|Way VAT ini sangat berpengaruh
  361. [21:13:33] <Mojacko> joan: pertanyaan gw itu ketutup gak dengan income tax naik jadi 20% ?
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  363. [21:13:48] <Mojacko> pengaruh gak pengaruh kalo udah ketutup yah mending gak usah naik..
  364. [21:14:03] <joan> tipis nutupnya Mojacko kemungkinan
  365. [21:14:16] <@masbro> VAT naik, harga barang jg naik, otomatis gaji jg naik, gaji naik pemasukan pajak jg naik
  366. [21:14:34] <joan> tetep gak bisa kalo kita target 150 k idr sehari pemasukan
  367. [21:14:39] <joan> tp sbnrnya ada yg mau gw tanya
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  371. [21:14:45] <joan> itu food VAT nya ga salah 5%?
  372. [21:14:53] <Mojacko> 5 atau 15 ?
  373. [21:15:01] <A|Way> salah itu
  374. [21:15:05] <A|Way> gara" admin kan :s
  375. [21:15:11] <Mojacko> oh iya 5
  376. [21:15:12] <Mojacko> -_-"
  377. [21:15:28] <Mojacko> salah setting itu si mimin
  378. [21:15:32] <@masbro> joan: kmrn 1% trus d propose sm DvipaNusantara jd 5%
  379. [21:15:39] <@masbro> yg lolos food
  380. [21:15:43] <@masbro> wepen gk lolos
  381. [21:15:45] <joan> kalo mau dituker wepen VAT 5% food 1%
  382. [21:15:53] <joan> hadeeh DvipaNusantara
  383. [21:16:02] <A|Way> ngapain joan =="
  384. [21:16:06] <Mojacko> oke berati kita turunin food naekin weapon ?
  385. [21:16:18] <A|Way> food juga lumayan gede ui
  386. [21:16:22] <@masbro> joan: food tetep aja, wepen jdin 10%
  387. [21:16:27] DvipaNusantara pusing, rapat di #ruangkongres tp ditelp pacar yg marah2
  388. [21:16:28] <A|Way> Q5 bisa sekitar 0,2IDR/food
  389. [21:16:38] <joan> nah itu bisa jg masbro wepen ke angka 10%
  390. [21:16:39] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: putusin aja masih banyak cw lain
  391. [21:16:53] <joan> yg penting itu pemasukan di sektor wepen kalo mau treasury keisi
  392. [21:16:57] <silfumus> kyk poland dong, VAT food 20%, weapon 1% :P
  393. [21:17:02] <joan> krn besar disitu transaksi
  394. [21:17:16] <Mojacko> transaksi weapon lebih banyak memang
  395. [21:17:21] <Mojacko> dan uang yang diputer jauh lebih gede
  396. [21:17:30] <A|Way> silfumus wkkwkwkwkw
  397. [21:17:41] <Mojacko> oke VAT food dulu yah..
  398. [21:17:47] <Mojacko> VAT food tetap di 5%
  399. [21:17:47] <A|Way> udah f&w 10%
  400. [21:17:55] <A|Way> naikin ke 10%
  401. [21:18:06] silfumus setuju dengan A|Way, Food&Weapon fix 10%
  402. [21:18:19] <Mojacko> oke gimana yang lain
  403. [21:18:25] <Mojacko> VAT Food and Weapon 10%
  404. [21:18:27] <Mojacko> VAT Food and Weapon 10%
  405. [21:18:27] <Mojacko> VAT Food and Weapon 10%
  406. [21:18:32] <Mojacko> ada yang keberatan ??
  407. [21:18:37] <@gullivers> oce deh
  408. [21:18:38] <@masbro> ya f&w 10% jg setuju ane
  409. [21:18:40] <DvipaNusantara> VAT food 5%
  410. [21:18:51] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: karena ?
  411. [21:18:52] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara: karena ?
  412. [21:19:03] <DvipaNusantara> biar rakyat cepet gemuk
  413. [21:19:39] <Mojacko> booster bonus lebih banyak di food kan ?
  414. [21:19:55] <A|Way> =="
  415. [21:19:57] <Mojacko> gw rasa 10% tax gak masalah kok
  416. [21:20:07] <Mojacko> sekarang aja udah 5% kan
  417. [21:20:26] <hahihuheho> voting aja 5 ato 10
  418. [21:20:35] <joan> jgn voting dolo
  419. [21:20:36] <Mojacko> joan:
  420. [21:20:37] <Mojacko> joan:
  421. [21:20:38] <Mojacko> joan:
  422. [21:20:44] <Mojacko> coba itung dulu
  423. [21:20:46] <joan> lbh baik musyarah mufakat kek pribadi bangsa :D
  424. [21:20:59] <Mojacko> IT 20% VAT Wepong 10%
  425. [21:21:04] <Mojacko> udah ketutup belom ?
  426. [21:21:06] <Mojacko> IT 20% VAT Wepong 10%
  427. [21:21:07] <Mojacko> udah ketutup belom ?
  428. [21:21:13] <joan> bisa ketutup Mojacko
  429. [21:21:24] <Mojacko> kalo udah kita biarin di 5% aja
  430. [21:21:33] <Mojacko> kira2 bisa hit income berapa joan ?
  431. [21:21:44] <Mojacko> nyampe 150 ?
  432. [21:21:47] <A|Way> 4*5000
  433. [21:21:55] <A|Way> 20K
  434. [21:22:19] <A|Way> ga ada detailnya sih :s
  435. [21:22:21] Mojacko pinjemin kalkulator ke joan
  436. [21:22:31] <joan> emang ga ada detailnya skrg
  437. [21:22:46] <A|Way> pembelian tank dr pasar brapa ya kira"?
  438. [21:22:46] <Mojacko> joan: berarti ketutup yah ? jangan sampe naikin yang mubazir
  439. [21:22:46] <A|Way> :s
  440. [21:22:53] <joan> tp menurut gw itu bisa ke angka 120-130k idr sehari pemasukan
  441. [21:22:58] <joan> asal yg nyapi worker jalan :p
  442. [21:22:59] <A|Way> Mojacko ga ada yg mubazir kalau ta
  443. [21:23:07] <A|Way> *tax
  444. [21:23:09] <joan> ga bakal ada yg mubazir
  445. [21:23:13] <Mojacko> joan: sapi pasti jalan
  446. [21:23:21] <joan> treasury 10jt jg bisa buat nabung
  447. [21:23:34] <Mojacko> karna gini loh,, mending kita naikin sekali aja sekalian
  448. [21:23:41] <Mojacko> daripada berkali2 naikin
  449. [21:23:49] <Mojacko> impact psikologisnya bisa berkali2
  450. [21:23:50] <A|Way> kwkkkw
  451. [21:23:51] <A|Way> sapi
  452. [21:23:54] <Mojacko> biar sinetronnya gak banyak2
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  454. [21:24:35] <Mojacko> oke2 joan  kalo kita naikin jadi 10% bisa hit 150rb gak ?
  455. [21:24:39] <Mojacko> oke2 joan  kalo kita naikin jadi 10% bisa hit 150rb gak ?
  456. [21:24:40] <Mojacko> oke2 joan  kalo kita naikin jadi 10% bisa hit 150rb gak ?
  457. [21:24:51] <A|Way> estimate gw
  458. [21:24:58] <A|Way> 10K Tank/hari
  459. [21:25:08] <A|Way> sekitar 38K dr tax VAT tank/hari
  460. [21:25:20] <A|Way> food sekitar 35K/hari dr VAT
  461. [21:25:26] <A|Way> dah 73K yah? :s
  462. [21:25:29] <A|Way> masih jauh =="
  463. [21:25:35] <Mojacko> iyah income taxnya berapa A|Way ?
  464. [21:25:38] <joan> income blom A|Way
  465. [21:25:40] <Mojacko> perkiraannya
  466. [21:25:45] <joan> 20% = 30 idr
  467. [21:25:54] <Mojacko> kali berapa ?
  468. [21:26:00] <A|Way> lah kok 30IDR?
  469. [21:26:07] <A|Way> oh
  470. [21:26:14] <Mojacko> kan tetep di 150 A|Way
  471. [21:26:18] <A|Way> iya"
  472. [21:26:19] <joan> 30 idr * anggap aja 2000an worker
  473. [21:26:26] <A|Way> 60K
  474. [21:26:28] <Mojacko> 60 RB
  475. [21:26:30] <joan> bisa 70an k idr
  476. [21:26:33] <A|Way> 73+60
  477. [21:26:35] <joan> cukup gw rasa bisa ngisi :D
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  479. [21:26:40] <Mojacko> yah udah kekejar sih 140K
  480. [21:26:40] <A|Way> 130an
  481. [21:26:46] <Mojacko> pasti lebih itu dari itungan kita
  482. [21:26:47] <A|Way> Surplus 31K/hari
  483. [21:26:49] <@masbro> koye: parah ketcongnya br dtng
  484. [21:27:03] <@koye> ckckck
  485. [21:27:11] <@koye> bener2 ga pantes ya gw jadi ketcong masbro
  486. [21:27:21] <Mojacko> koye: makanya gw TO :p
  487. [21:27:29] <@koye> bagus Mojacko
  488. [21:27:29] <Mojacko> ==================================HAP=========================
  489. [21:27:30] <AndryGunawan> cemungudh eeeaaa
  490. [21:27:31] <@masbro> koye: gk seh
  491. [21:27:32] <@koye> lanjutkan !!
  492. [21:27:36] <@masbro> koye: cocoknya presiden
  493. [21:27:43] <@koye> =))
  494. [21:27:56] <A|Way> Koye cabe :p
  495. [21:27:57] <Mojacko> jadi VAT food kita naikin ke 10%
  496. [21:28:15] <Mojacko> untuk mengejar surplus 30K income negara
  497. [21:28:24] <Mojacko> Sepakat ??
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  499. [21:28:28] <&Aishwarya> [Mariana-sleep] Assalamualaikum Wr.Wb
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  502. [21:28:37] <Mojacko> VAT Food 10%
  503. [21:28:37] <Mojacko> VAT Food 10%
  504. [21:28:40] <@koye> apadah obat panu
  505. [21:28:41] <A|Way> Mojacko yo
  506. [21:28:41] <Mojacko> Sepakat ??
  507. [21:28:46] <A|Way> koye :p
  508. [21:28:52] <Mojacko> oke gw summary yah
  509. [21:28:54] <joan> Mojacko: VAT food 10% dan wepen 10%
  510. [21:28:59] <Mojacko> iyah joan
  511. [21:29:04] <Mojacko> gw summary
  512. [21:29:13] <Mojacko> ==========================SUMMARY====================
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  514. [21:29:26] <Mojacko> 1. Income Tax naik jadi 20%
  515. [21:29:38] <Mojacko> 2. Minimum Wage tetap di 150 IDR
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  517. [21:29:55] <Mojacko> 3. VAT Food dan Weapon naik jadi 10%
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  519. [21:30:04] <Mojacko> ==========================TAX KELAR========================
  520. [21:30:16] <Mojacko> siapa yang mau propose ?
  521. [21:30:18] <Mojacko> joan ?
  522. [21:30:25] <joan> gw ga bisa propose
  523. [21:30:26] <joan> :s
  524. [21:30:33] <Mojacko> oh gak bisa yah kasian amat
  525. [21:30:34] <joan> tunjuk aja Mojacko
  526. [21:30:34] <A|Way> gw juga :s
  527. [21:30:39] <Mojacko> mending jadi cong aja
  528. [21:30:50] <Mojacko> silfumus: masih bisa gak ?
  529. [21:30:51] silfumus sudah habis jatah proposenya
  530. [21:30:55] <Mojacko> bah..
  531. [21:30:59] silfumus 2x donate NBeI
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  533. [21:31:00] <Mojacko> A|Way: ?
  534. [21:31:01] <A|Way> lol
  535. [21:31:04] <Mojacko> A|Way: ?
  536. [21:31:08] <A|Way> gak lah
  537. [21:31:09] <A|Way> xD
  538. [21:31:14] <Mojacko> ck..
  539. [21:31:19] <Mojacko> masbro: kalo gitu
  540. [21:31:32] <Mojacko> masbro: yang propose yah
  541. [21:31:40] <@masbro> gw propose income wepen & food
  542. [21:31:00] <joan> Mojacko: jgn lupa log rapat sama hasil di artikelin yah
  543. [21:32:00] <Mojacko> iyah joan
  544. [21:32:00] <A|Way> ada psy_cho  :o
  545. [21:32:00] <@masbro> yg propose VAT food & wepen sapa?
  546. [21:32:00] <joan> koye: masih ada jatah?
  547. [21:32:00] <joan> .lp koye
  548. [21:32:00] <eRepublik> 4Error: eRepublik API failed to service the request
  549. [21:32:00] <psy_cho> :o ada A|Way
  550. [21:32:00] <@koye> jatah apa ?
  551. [21:32:00] <@koye> jatah malam ini ?
  552. [21:32:00] <@masbro> raat
  553. [21:33:00] <@masbro> ralat
  554. [21:33:00] <@masbro> proposal gw sisa 1 XD
  555. [21:33:00] <A|Way> jatah nasi bungkus :o
  556. [21:33:00] <Mojacko> masbro: masih ada jatah brp ?
  557. [21:33:00] <arale> gw masih ada 2
  558. [21:33:00] <arale> mo ngapain jo
  559. [21:33:00] <Mojacko> arale: food sama weapon yah
  560. [21:33:00] <joan> nah arale
  561. [21:33:00] <Mojacko> VAT food sama Weapon
  562. [21:33:00] <arale> sek
  563. [21:33:00] <joan> arale: VAT food sama wepen masing2 naik ke angka 10%
  564. [21:33:00] <joan> :D
  565. [21:34:00] <Mojacko> arale: VAT food sama weapon masing2 ke 10%
  566. [21:34:00] <Mojacko> masbro: income tax jadi 20%
  567. [21:34:00] <@masbro> Mojacko: gw cm bs 1
  568. [21:34:00] <@masbro> koye: lo msh 2 kan?
  569. [21:34:00] <DvipaNusantara> mojacko, abis bahas tax bahas apaan?
  570. [21:34:00] <@masbro> koye: lo aja propose sana
  571. [21:34:00] <@koye> entah
  572. [21:34:00] <@koye> propose apa ?
  573. [21:34:00] <@masbro> koye: income tax food & wepen jd 20%
  574. [21:35:00] <Mojacko> lah masbro kan emang 1
  575. [21:35:00] <@allsunday> .access list
  576. [21:35:00] <arale> food udah
  577. [21:35:00] <@Polpot> sini awak propose :D
  578. [21:35:00] <@masbro> bukannya 2
  579. [21:35:00] <Mojacko> income tax 1
  580. [21:35:00] <joan> masbro << mau sisain 1 propose buat impeach :p
  581. [21:35:00] <Mojacko> VAT 2
  582. [21:35:00] <A|Way> wkwkwkkwkw
  583. [21:35:00] <@masbro> ok2
  584. [21:36:00] <@masbro> gw income
  585. [21:36:00] <@Polpot> eh ga ah propose tinggal 1 sayang dibuang siapa tau genas jadi press :D
  586. [21:36:00] <A|Way> xD
  587. [21:36:00] <Mojacko> Polpot: kekekekeke..
  588. [21:36:00] <aimond07> o/ bokong
  589. [21:36:00] <@masbro> http://www.erepublik.com/en/Indonesia/law/96121 done income tax to 20%
  590. [21:37:00] <Mojacko> yang ada disini vote yes dulu lah
  591. [21:37:00] <Mojacko> eh VAT weapon siapa ?
  592. [21:37:00] <Mojacko> allsunday:
  593. [21:37:00] <Mojacko> DvipaNusantara:
  594. [21:37:00] <@allsunday> oit
  595. [21:38:00] <Mojacko> allsunday: ada jatah gak ?
  596. [21:38:00] <@allsunday> ada
  597. [21:38:21] <@allsunday> perlu propose apa yang blm
  598. [21:38:21] irc.cyberdynesystems.net [*@*] has set channel mode +Rnstz
  599. [21:38:21] Channel was created at Kamis 7. Mei 09:38:43 2009
  600. [21:38:22] BEGOOOO GA SUDI JG PAKE JATAH BUAT PROPOSE GEJE
  601. [21:38:42] <@allsunday> .access add Mojacko 4
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  603. [21:38:55] <Mojacko> propose VAT weapon jadi 10% allsunday
  604. [21:38:56] <Mojacko> propose VAT weapon jadi 10% allsunday
  605. [21:39:04] <@allsunday> ok
  606. [21:39:17] <@allsunday> .op Mojacko
  607. [21:39:17] Aishwarya [Aishwarya@bollywood.owns.me] has set mode +o Mojacko
  608. [21:39:20] <@Mojacko> yang ada disini vote oke buat proposal2nya
  609. [21:39:37] <@Mojacko> http://www.erepublik.com/en/Indonesia/law/96121 done income tax to 20%
  610. [21:39:58] <@Mojacko> http://www.erepublik.com/en/Indonesia/law/96120 VAT Food jadi 10%
  611. [21:40:05] <@Mojacko> Vote Yes
  612. [21:40:08] <@BEGOOOO> MATI AJE LHO
  613. [21:40:28] <@Mojacko> allsunday: kalo udah di post linknya yah
  614. [21:40:30] AncientSquare [cgiirc@1CAC5045.5B848A44.37EC147D.IP] has left #ruangkongres
  615. [21:41:13] <@Mojacko> joan: ada lagi yang mau didiskusikan ??
  616. [21:41:22] <@Mojacko> kalo gak gw tutup neh
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