[19:44:19] <zephyrus> anyone around yet?
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[19:56:38] <Fyren> zephyrus: What, exactly, are you expecting to happen?
[19:56:57] <Fyren> Every time this is brought up everyone is reminded what the GPL requires and that you're all just slinging crap at each other.
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[20:05:12] <zephyrus> i hvnet been around sm for half a year
[20:05:18] <zephyrus> i dont give a fuck about the plugin being leaked
[20:05:21] <zephyrus> as you can see i released it myself
[20:05:24] <zephyrus> before he takes the credit
[20:05:32] <zephyrus> the point is that you cant just have someone in the community
[20:05:37] <zephyrus> scamming tens of people
[20:05:40] <zephyrus> there are SHITLOAD of ppl
[20:05:46] <zephyrus> who got scammed by francisco
[20:05:53] <zephyrus> why dont you just ban him?
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[20:06:01] <zephyrus> theres no real need for someone like him in the community
[20:06:18] <zephyrus> his (?) plugins are worthless as well
[20:06:23] <zephyrus> he doesnt really add any value to AM
[20:08:27] <zephyrus> you banned zipcore for deleting his very own plugins from sourcemod.com
[20:08:48] <zephyrus> yet its not against GPL
[20:08:58] <zephyrus> you banned bara as well for being a pain in the ass
[20:09:13] <zephyrus> why cant you just ban someone like francisco?
[20:10:55] <zephyrus> also he broke gpl several times as well
[20:11:02] <zephyrus> and he barely got a week of ban
[20:14:10] <zephyrus> ffs its not even me starting all these
[20:14:19] <zephyrus> every time its some random guy who got scammed etc
[20:14:29] <zephyrus> or bara, zipcore or someone else
[20:14:38] <zephyrus> yet i always get brought into this crap
[20:15:05] <zephyrus> because for whatever reason this spanish fucktard keeps leaking my private plugins, he even stole some from someone's ftp and put it on sourcemod.com
[20:18:02] <KyleS> zephyrus, weren't you the first "shit bag" to create an SM plugin, that went into an SM Ext, to utilize an MM:S plugin to get around the GPL?
[20:18:33] <zephyrus> its not illegal :)
[20:18:37] <zephyrus> and its fully gpl compatible as well
[20:18:41] <KyleS> right, but that doesn't make you less of a "shit bag"
[20:18:43] <zephyrus> but im sure you think nvidia is a shitbag then
[20:18:57] <zephyrus> but im not even talking about gpl here
[20:19:12] <zephyrus> and btw gpl is retarded in the first place
[20:19:23] <zephyrus> but lets not get into that
[20:19:30] <zephyrus> as thats not what this is about
[20:19:44] <zephyrus> and btw
[20:19:45] <zephyrus> no
[20:19:46] <zephyrus> it wasnt me
[20:19:52] <zephyrus> who started this
[20:19:54] <zephyrus> i believ eit was asherkin
[20:19:56] <zephyrus> with his voicehook
[20:19:56] <-* SpamServ has kicked zephyrus from #sourcemod (You sent too many messages to the channel.)
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[20:20:15] <zephyrus> i believe it was asherkin who started this with his voicehook
[20:20:25] <zephyrus> im sure you wont tell asherkin hes a shitbag :)
[20:21:05] <Drifter> asherkin: youre a shitbag
[20:21:08] <KyleS> iirc that was half MV; the point still stands regardless, you can't try to violate the GPL and then get upset when people RE
[20:21:10] <Drifter> <3
[20:21:27] <zephyrus> mv?
[20:21:52] <zephyrus> and you are just being a hypocrite anyway
[20:22:00] <zephyrus> it wasnt a violation nor we are talking about gpl here
[20:22:33] <zephyrus> and by the way, that was years ago
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[20:22:57] <zephyrus> and btw, just read the thread i linked you to above
[20:23:06] <zephyrus> you cant even see any comments there by me
[20:23:16] <zephyrus> its random ppl calling francisco a scammer once again
[20:23:50] <zephyrus> and btw scamming is illegal in general
[20:24:08] <zephyrus> so something fully gpl compatible is worse than breaking the law
[20:24:09] <zephyrus> according to you
[20:24:13] <zephyrus> hats off to you
[20:25:37] <AzuiSleet> everyone who posts sm plugins or mms plugins without source code is a shit bag
[20:26:00] <zephyrus> asherkin is getting burned here ugh
[20:26:20] <zephyrus> but anyway why would you say that? mms plugins are not under GPL
[20:26:27] <zephyrus> nor i posted them publicly
[20:26:38] <zephyrus> well, it, as it was a single instance anyway
[20:26:55] <tet> it's just his firm belief
[20:27:04] <AzuiSleet> I don't care about licenses, as a matter of principle I want to see plugins and source on public forums
[20:27:22] <zephyrus> ye i agree that much, but that should be a forum rule
[20:27:31] <zephyrus> and not forced on you by gpl
[20:28:12] <zephyrus> or at least use a less strict license, that doesnt let ppl like francisco remove credits and post the code as his own
[20:28:58] <Fyren> You have a strange definition of "less strict."
[20:29:07] <zephyrus> more strict
[20:29:08] <zephyrus> sorry
[20:29:09] <zephyrus> lol :P
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[20:34:06] <zephyrus> but anyway, why have someone like francisco around who has has scammed a lot of people, there have been several cryouts about this, he even sold plugins without sp, and also sometimes with exploit in the smx that was compiled from a different source than the one provided.
[20:35:26] <zephyrus> leaking plugins is just unethical, although he also released plugins that he downloaded from someone else's FTP, which is agaisnt GPL as well...
[20:41:11] <Fyren> If someone wants to provide proof of something, we'll look at it.
[20:41:24] <zephyrus> omfg
[20:41:32] <zephyrus> maybe you shouldnt have trashed all the topics
[20:41:46] <zephyrus> this isnt first cryout about francisco scamming
[20:41:53] <zephyrus> there was proof provided about a year ago to mckay
[20:42:01] <zephyrus> about him selling private plugins withotu code
[20:42:06] <zephyrus> and putting exploits in them
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[20:42:12] <Fyren> Good thing McKay has something to do with AM.
[20:42:21] <zephyrus> ye well noone cared then
[20:43:15] <Fyren> When everyone is just whining at each other like children then threads are going to get trashed.
[20:43:41] <zephyrus> you trashed it saying you didnt care about ppl selling private plugin
[20:43:42] <zephyrus> s
[20:43:49] <zephyrus> which is acceptable
[20:44:06] <zephyrus> but letting someone scam people is not
[20:44:38] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=264985
[20:44:39] <zephyrus> oh look
[20:44:42] <zephyrus> right on the second page
[20:45:44] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=230218
[20:46:19] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=249122
[20:46:25] <zephyrus> its been 2+ years
[20:46:39] <zephyrus> its nothing new
[20:47:02] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=262506
[20:47:45] <zephyrus> start caring already
[20:48:53] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=196307&page=7
[20:48:58] <zephyrus> top of the page ^
[20:49:44] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=275306&page=12
[20:49:48] <zephyrus> ^ this is the most recent
[20:49:50] <Fyren> Then start being concise and coherent and not linking random garbage.
[20:50:28] <zephyrus> random garbage lol? 6 diff topics about francisco being a scammer lol..
[20:50:32] <zephyrus> from the last 2 years
[20:51:43] <zephyrus> i obviously cant provide the same proof that was posted back in 2013, but i can show you this has been going on for quite a while
[20:51:49] <Fyren> I read "pages 12-14" when you first linked it earlier.
[20:52:35] <Fyren> What's your expectation about that?  If people apparently don't like him because he's re-selling your code or someone else's code, then what?
[20:52:44] <zephyrus> what...
[20:52:50] <zephyrus> thats not what those topics are about
[20:53:03] <Bara> Francisco released some bad coded plugins and donated to sourcemod. He's ban protected of lifetime.
[20:53:15] <zephyrus> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=196307&page=7 <- this one is about morell who got an smx with exploits in it from francisco
[20:54:10] <zephyrus> as i said for whatever reason i always get brought into these, yet i have nothing to do with any of those topics linked above
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[20:55:42] <zephyrus> as i said i wasnt even active the past half a year. i havent coded any plugins either. you do whatever you want, enjoy the cryouts every other month
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