Storm CrowToday at 10:31 AM
didn't bisou respond?
I thought that was what this was about
It'd make sense if she didn't see it.
cause it was nazi deleted
YaeraaToday at 10:31 AM
She saw it
But i want it here
Storm CrowToday at 10:32 AM
you don't got a screen?
YaeraaToday at 10:32 AM
I had to show it to her again
Storm CrowToday at 10:32 AM
ok
YaeraaToday at 10:32 AM
She went to sleep
Storm CrowToday at 10:32 AM
cause apparently we have to clear the air
YaeraaToday at 10:32 AM
And we spammed this with nonsense
Yeah
Storm CrowToday at 10:32 AM
imma go code bye
YaeraaToday at 10:32 AM
See you later man
BisouToday at 12:57 PM
umm
this delete is very suspicious
@Storm Crow i can copy my response
YaeraaToday at 1:22 PM
Na its just stupid reaction
You can and should copy it
@Bisou
BisouToday at 1:27 PM
@
any TO who enters their own event is a moron for many reasons of bias and the fact, if a dispute comes up while you're in a game you would have to quit. TOs DO NOT JOIN THEIR OWN EVENTS, that's common sense.

look, hosting a tournament is just to organize a way to play the game, if i host an unrated game that is the exact same thing, that doesnt make me a moron. most of the hosts dont have the intention of blessing the community with a  tournament, they have other incentives to host which are selfish and go back to the flawed staff structure. allowing TOs to join the own tournament gives the host a different incentive because they enjoy it, hosting a tournament is not a fun job, its a chore. there is no bias, there are no prizes, every staff who abuses that right will immediately be dealt with by me.
The Judges I do not think suck I think it's more of DB staff's structure is not all there which causes issues. Dueling Network was the same way when it first came out so you should at least keep this in mind before judging the staff. not everything is in their control if you want to be real here.

i was specificly talking about staff structure and i did mention im talking abut those that ARE in control, not everyone.
Cheriontop you realize it's better to be thought a fool and say nothing than open your mouth and confirm it, right? you don't need help ruining your reputation you do that all on your own.

 i never did anything wrong. how am i a "fool"? what did i ever do to "ruin my reputation"? this needs to be answered.
further more Stop being emotional over this stupid shit the dude who made this thread said farewell take your drama and petty shit shove it up your asses y'all making yourselves look stupid.

that includes me but how so? the opposite is the case for me. i cant make myself look stupid by telling the truth.
GOA, Genex, Exiled Tombstone, Twisted Soul are like the most correct people in the thread the rest are either irrelevant emotional or autistic beyond help. Please get help

how can you say goa and runzy are the most correct people after what they have done in the past as well as what they have done in that thread? this is where you needed to speak the truth. also why do you include me as "emotional or autistic"? im the only honest and reasonable person on that thread.
YaeraaToday at 1:27 PM
Thank you
BisouToday at 1:27 PM
do you have message logs? you should get a bot for it
YaeraaToday at 1:28 PM
Yoshi is tech guy
He should make it
And he will make it
Now lets wait for @Storm Crow  to read it
YaeraaToday at 2:21 PM
Is there a way to make it so every team can use warchat for their own wars and dont see whats happening in others?
Storm CrowToday at 2:35 PM
reading
Storm CrowToday at 2:49 PM
look, hosting a tournament is just to organize a way to play the game, if i host an unrated game that is the exact same thing, that doesnt make me a moron. most of the hosts dont have the intention of blessing the community with a  tournament, they have other incentives to host which are selfish and go back to the flawed staff structure. allowing TOs to join the own tournament gives the host a different incentive because they enjoy it, hosting a tournament is not a fun job, its a chore. there is no bias, there are no prizes, every staff who abuses that right will immediately be dealt with by me.


Also no TOs had incentive to host long before Ozone and DB back on DN, TOs had a point system they used and the person with most points at the end of the month had recognition and got rewarded for being a good and active TO. if you have to join your own event has a host you don't deserve to be a TO. No discussion to be had on that note.  I've hosted over 300 events and was spear head of tournaments before.

I was specificly talking about staff structure and i did mention im talking abut those that ARE in control, not everyone.


If you had stated staff structure you wouldn't have been flamed but instead you said DB staff suck. miss me with that trying to twist it.
I never did anything wrong. how am i a "fool"? what did i ever do to "ruin my reputation"? this needs to be answered.


are you kidding me? you literally sat there and debated your Ethics and made emotional posts towards Alisae and other people and made yourself look like a complete moron when all you had to do to win that entire argument OR stop it before it started was admit you choose bad wording to the admin who quoted you on page 1. you instead decided to go about this long dragged out rant, shade throw towards people which only got you backlash.

that includes me but how so? the opposite is the case for me. i cant make myself look stupid by telling the truth.


It didn't include you it was in general like most my posts were when in fact only one post was directed at you. If you seriously didn't pick up on what it means to when someone says "better be thought a fool and keep quiet than open your mouth and confirm you're a fool."  that's literally me giving you sound advice to stop feeding the dysfunctional rabble of DB. Telling the truth and being emotional and deflecting is not telling the truth in fact I highly doubt there was any sort of truth to be had over perspective shit.  it's generally known i you did nothing wrong there is also no reason to carry a long debate with random rabble that doesn't actually matter in the end that's a fact.
how can you say goa and runzy are the most correct people after what they have done in the past as well as what they have done in that thread? this is where you needed to speak the truth. also why do you include me as "emotional or autistic"? im the only honest and reasonable person on that thread.


I hate agreeing with Lost in Illusions and it made me cringe but when he actually is making more sense to an argument I can't unfortunately disagree what he said to you I have no clue about but I was referring to what he said about Kralj cause even Kralj admitted he only supports you to get on your pants. Genex uses old ethics to DN to hire and understands people change once given the title of staff for bad or worse rather it's good or bad addition to a staff team you will not know until you hire someone but you do your best to base it off history and what one is known to be like.  also considering my first post and how it's quite accurate to what Staffing and the actual whole picture is It's probably the most truthful thing that matters on the thread.
..................
Putting a break there
I'll give you a brief history lesson one I am sure you'll take offense to or not understand.

Ultimately before you, yoshi and others were TOs, TOs had incentive to play and head TO understood that being a TO is a hard job and under appreciated job because of how much time investment is required to be a good TO. I am talking everything from Lives to Championships and custom events.

Lost in Illusions is known for being a fucktard @Bisou there is no need to argue with idiots on DB they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience being a fucktard. before I read that thread I heard mostly good things about you so do yourself a favor stop taking everything personally Put your feelings in a box and either let's work on something better than DB or tell me now and I can leave.     the fact @Yaeraa and @Yoshiru are nazi modding our interaction is more than enough suspicious shit.

So Bisou retort now
YoshiruToday at 3:01 PM
Nazi modding o.o
It was just stupid on my part not intentional
Take it as you wish
YaeraaToday at 3:02 PM
I only delete shit in barbaric lang man leave me out of it
While this guy drops purge 1000 bomb
Storm CrowToday at 3:02 PM
Idc which one o you did what deleting
it's gay
YaeraaToday at 3:03 PM
Agree fully
Storm CrowToday at 3:03 PM
I've worked with yoshi before the fact he's working differently because of one person is already suspect as fuck
YoshiruToday at 3:03 PM
Stupid from me but no need to take it all personal all of a sudden
Storm CrowToday at 3:04 PM
So like our we gonna do anything productive or are we going to reiterate meaningless banter?
YoshiruToday at 3:04 PM
It was just a stupid mistake after I was beyond tilted from a lol game
YaeraaToday at 3:04 PM
I want to do productive stuff man
YoshiruToday at 3:04 PM
I've been setting up the server its more or less finished
Working on some bot stuff and a forum atm
YaeraaToday at 3:05 PM
But some clearing the air is absolutely needed
YoshiruToday at 3:05 PM
I'll only do the technichal stuff, I'll leave the waring to you
Until I properly get walked into it
YaeraaToday at 3:05 PM
Ye yoshi and i had a long talk about it
I cant run server
Im a  lawyer in making i dont fuck with tech stuff
Storm CrowToday at 3:06 PM
I wish I had become a lawyer
YoshiruToday at 3:06 PM
And I'm an electrical engineer with basic coding knowledge
Storm CrowToday at 3:07 PM
then with my computer skills could be the next daredevil :^)
jk
YoshiruToday at 3:07 PM
You mean programming skills
YaeraaToday at 3:07 PM
Man rip daredevil
YoshiruToday at 3:07 PM
You have no computer skills, thats why you have me :D
YaeraaToday at 3:08 PM
Fucking too good for us man
Hopefully they come back with it on disney streaming platform
With same cast
Anyway
Dont want to waste time with useless chitchat
Lets move onto productive things
Give me your WA ideas
I think we should approach darryl/ barron trump 7hhzz7 1st.
Storm CrowToday at 3:16 PM
I have computer skills
I also have calling out that BS skills and only need a diploma for what I do daily to be rich
YaeraaToday at 3:17 PM
Whats your oppinion on darryl zeph?
Storm CrowToday at 3:18 PM
he is very good person and trust worthy
he's tired of things though for the same reason me, dluc, others are just too much drama.
We're probably gonna be meeting IRL in the future
YaeraaToday at 3:19 PM
I think dluc is actually jusy busy irl
Storm CrowToday at 3:20 PM
I mean I say I'm busy when I'm just avoiding topics though rather or not he is doing the same I can't say cause Idk
I miss when we had sunnyD, Dluc and Urthor
YaeraaToday at 3:20 PM
We will find new sunnyd dluc and urthor
Storm CrowToday at 3:21 PM
I hope so
YaeraaToday at 3:21 PM
I wish goa didnt piss urthor off man
Im sure that guy would love to help us
Ill ask dluc to make his team
BisouToday at 3:22 PM
hm im reading the response rn
to #1) why do you think so about tos joining own tournaments?
pls no emotional resp
YaeraaToday at 3:23 PM
Zeph is never emotional
Trust me
BisouToday at 3:24 PM
yes but the response didnt answer anything
just repeated
Storm CrowToday at 3:24 PM
because TOs are acting as judge and organizer they cannot be participant it's literally part o konami tournament policy. to induce a fair and competitive environment.
YaeraaToday at 3:24 PM
To the point when you mention his team
Then he explodes
BisouToday at 3:24 PM
how is it not fair and competitive?
YaeraaToday at 3:24 PM
Rightfuy so
Storm CrowToday at 3:27 PM
TOs a few years back were spotting codes in their own events and it killed dueling networks tournament scene drastically this ultimately cascaded several other declines and distrust towards staff as an entire entity.  How it's not fair and competitive is that if issues come up with the host entering their own events that one person has a ruling advantage over everyone else playing cause they are acting as judge, jury and executioner.  reporting them to other staff for corruption often goes unheard or sweeped under the rug.
doing the same on Dueling book would have the same result and it did.
as stated by blank's farewell to begin with.
BisouToday at 3:27 PM
stop
i stated the solution for that problem
if the host isnt corrupt then that is invalid argument
and if the host corrupt and the organization isnt corrupt that is also an invalid argument
the only way to make that valid is if we establish that CYO TOs and myself are corrupt which is not the case
do you understand your mistake?
if so then i will move to #2
Storm CrowToday at 3:31 PM
Not my mistake it's yours look at what you just said. now imagine I am runzy or Natsu reading that.

the host if not corrupt wouldn't join their event and I am not saying all hosts are corrupt however it only takes 1 corrupt staff member to make the staff professionalism go down the drain.
BisouToday at 3:31 PM
also i want to add, it is impossible to create a noncorrupt system without allowing tos to join
Storm CrowToday at 3:31 PM
you're arguing Ifs to a metaphorical question and scenario you made
BisouToday at 3:32 PM
no but it will always stop at the organization not being corrupt
Storm CrowToday at 3:32 PM
No prize or their being a prize and rather actual bias exists from the TO or not TOs should not join the events their hosting.
Tournaments as a base premise are Competitive
BisouToday at 3:33 PM
they will be demoted in an instant if they act biased
competition means do everything you can within the ruleset
bias is breaking the ruleset
Storm CrowToday at 3:34 PM
So you can unbais judge that by an instant? no you can't you'll literally just lose all your staff and be stuck at square one.
Bais is in human nature Bisou
Even the purest of people are bias
BisouToday at 3:34 PM
acting on bias is what i care about
feeling idc
Storm CrowToday at 3:35 PM
I didn't say feeling bias.
BisouToday at 3:35 PM
none of my TOs corrupted a tournament
Storm CrowToday at 3:35 PM
I they feel bias but do what is professionally right then it's not bias.
BisouToday at 3:35 PM
why has there been no problem in 60 tournaments?
YoshiruToday at 3:35 PM
Because you dont have money in your prizes.
BisouToday at 3:35 PM
stay out yoshi
YoshiruToday at 3:36 PM
Yup
Storm CrowToday at 3:36 PM
I'm not questioning your tournament ethics what I am saying is that you as a TO host do not join your own events period.
Prize or not.
BisouToday at 3:36 PM
there is no "period" ina  rational discussion
everything has a reason
Storm CrowToday at 3:36 PM
I gave you the reason
BisouToday at 3:36 PM
and i debunked yours
Storm CrowToday at 3:36 PM
you reuse it
you refuse konami then you are bias
BisouToday at 3:37 PM
you said the organization will not punish corruption but that is false, i will punish corruption
Storm CrowToday at 3:37 PM
literally read their TO policy and judge portfolo
BisouToday at 3:37 PM
no thx
Storm CrowToday at 3:38 PM
then don't tell me you debunked anything when you are playing blissful ignorance.
BisouToday at 3:38 PM
i want to move to #2 but this is taking long
Storm CrowToday at 3:38 PM
alright
BisouToday at 3:38 PM
how am i blissfully ignorant?
Storm CrowToday at 3:39 PM
I told you a factual rule o anyone representing konami and hosting their games and to why TOs don't join their own events.
you said no thnx and ignored it
BisouToday at 3:39 PM
"So you can unbais judge that by an instant? no you can't you'll literally just lose all your staff and be stuck at square one."
this is your argument
i dont understand it
yes i can
why would i not be able to?
Storm CrowToday at 3:39 PM
then you're not doing it right but continue :popcorn:
BisouToday at 3:39 PM
doing what right?
Storm CrowToday at 3:40 PM
Do you expect antimetaman to put up with this kind of attitude once they do their work in January?
you don't just demote people over one time instance without at least investigating
BisouToday at 3:41 PM
which attitude?
who said id do that?
Storm CrowToday at 3:41 PM
yours which is blissful ignorance and pious
BisouToday at 3:41 PM
how so?
Storm CrowToday at 3:41 PM
you are ignoring what I say and deflecting
BisouToday at 3:41 PM
the contradictions are piling up before the first one gets adressed
Storm CrowToday at 3:41 PM
they not though
BisouToday at 3:42 PM
there is so much wrong with what youre saying
Storm CrowToday at 3:42 PM
Umm there isn't
it's called you're not capable or choosing to ignore it
BisouToday at 3:42 PM
you answered none of my attempts to clear up
Storm CrowToday at 3:42 PM
I did
BisouToday at 3:42 PM
you just responded with false assumptions
lets start over
"So you can unbais judge that by an instant? no you can't you'll literally just lose all your staff and be stuck at square one."
this is your argument
i dont understand it
yes i can
why would i not be able to?
to that you responded im not doing it right but that is an invalid answer
Storm CrowToday at 3:43 PM
you're gonna degrade your tournament staff simply put
no it's an answer you do not like
BisouToday at 3:43 PM
how so?
it is an unrelated answer
Storm CrowToday at 3:43 PM
you start firing your staff because of one time corruption
BisouToday at 3:44 PM
yes
Storm CrowToday at 3:44 PM
you're gonna lose your staf when they figure you're not worht their time
you won't be able to replace them fast enough
lol
BisouToday at 3:44 PM
define worth their time
Storm CrowToday at 3:44 PM
simple
BisouToday at 3:44 PM
yes?
Storm CrowToday at 3:45 PM
they'll go somewhere else and work for someone or start their own scen in which they'll or they'll stop hosting
want a living example?
Look at yoshi

BisouToday at 3:55 PM
i did read it and its a business advice, you have never stated ana rgument for why allowing TOs is morally wrong
Storm CrowToday at 3:56 PM
I did like 30 times which is your TO acts as Judge and organizer of the event they the TO makes all final decisions involving any issues that arise and need to be readily available.
BisouToday at 3:57 PM
ok so? thats not morally wrong
Storm CrowToday at 3:57 PM
Umm...... again you're trying to bring morals into business when I stated it doesn't mix.
that is morally wrong in business
BisouToday at 3:58 PM
this topic isnt about business
Storm CrowToday at 3:58 PM
it's be like the referee at a fottball game placing bets on the games he referees
BisouToday at 3:58 PM
then i will fire the referee and give the money back
Storm CrowToday at 3:59 PM
Umm 1 you can't and 2 you'd need proof factual proof which again is business
Not morals
BisouToday at 3:59 PM
yes i can with 1 click
and i have proof from db replays
so you agree that there is nothing morally wrong, only a bad business move
pls say yes
@Storm Crow say yes then we can go to #2
YaeraaToday at 4:02 PM
I have to stop you there
YoshiruToday at 4:02 PM
No you dont, keep going
YaeraaToday at 4:03 PM
Crow said everything how it is
With good will
Storm CrowToday at 4:03 PM
Honestly I'm at the point you're not worth my time to work with. I have learned a lot here and I unfortunately do not see this working out because you're a lone wolf who can't see things from anothers perspective. I will not say yes because this will continue to cycle.   I am here to make something new, not address morals and banter to someone refusing to listen.
Yoshi if you think for a second you can tame a snowflake you are not grown up at all
or as you put it tame bisou to do your will
Not worth it
YoshiruToday at 4:04 PM
You are refering to yaera here
Not me.
Storm CrowToday at 4:04 PM
Bisou belongs free and untamed
YoshiruToday at 4:04 PM
I told you my opinion Zeph
BisouToday at 4:04 PM
it was stated from the beginning that the topic was morals, it is not my fault that you wasted 40 mins talking about business and me trying to bring you back to the actual topic
YaeraaToday at 4:04 PM
No
The topic was resolving the problem
Crow said how it is
Really
BisouToday at 4:05 PM
no the topic was me asking what is morally wrong
YaeraaToday at 4:05 PM
I cant find better words than he did
BisouToday at 4:05 PM
and there has been 0 arguments made for why it isnt
yae, yoshi, is that clear?
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
Actually
YoshiruToday at 4:07 PM
You are asking us if its clear to us
When you dont seem to be the one
BisouToday at 4:07 PM
yes
YoshiruToday at 4:07 PM
To grasp the point
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
I think his arguements are unbreakable
Honestly
BisouToday at 4:07 PM
arguments for the business side?
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
No
BisouToday at 4:08 PM
for the moral side?
YaeraaToday at 4:08 PM
ME TALK YOSHI
YoshiruToday at 4:08 PM
You cannot bring emotion and morals into business.If we had Morals chinese workers would not be a thing.
Ill end there.
YaeraaToday at 4:08 PM
Yds




stop
YoshiruToday at 3:45 PM
Heeeey
Storm CrowToday at 3:45 PM
No
BisouToday at 3:45 PM
this is going off topic
Storm CrowToday at 3:45 PM
it' not I answered you
BisouToday at 3:45 PM
this is not what i care about
Storm CrowToday at 3:45 PM
Now 2.
BisouToday at 3:46 PM
so your reason for calling me a moron is because i would ban corrupt staff
and its wrong to ban corrupt staff
so your reason is not a moral one but business-wise
but i only care about the moral side
and i only want to talk about that
you dont have to tell me what is a smart chess move
Storm CrowToday at 3:47 PM
from what I have seen. so far bisou your acounter is deflect, and state things very egotistically.
I gave you factual answer
BisouToday at 3:48 PM
what does that mean?
Storm CrowToday at 3:48 PM
you ignore
BisouToday at 3:48 PM
?_?
Storm CrowToday at 3:48 PM
It means you are what is called a Lone wolf
BisouToday at 3:48 PM
ignore what?
?_?
i understand none of your accusations
Storm CrowToday at 3:48 PM
in your mind you are right and can do no wrong it's your way or the highway
BisouToday at 3:48 PM
im here resolving the issue
Storm CrowToday at 3:49 PM
it's not accusations remember when I said I don't udge on things I don't know?
BisouToday at 3:49 PM
we are having this discussion to find who is right
Storm CrowToday at 3:49 PM
We had the discussion and everyone reading this already deemed I'm right
BisouToday at 3:49 PM
about the business side
Storm CrowToday at 3:49 PM
either you're not arguing your point well
BisouToday at 3:49 PM
but i am refering to the moral side
Storm CrowToday at 3:50 PM
the business side being a head TO is all about image
BisouToday at 3:50 PM
i dont care
Storm CrowToday at 3:50 PM
I kno you don't
BisouToday at 3:50 PM
this topic is abot moral not business
Storm CrowToday at 3:50 PM
I blantantly see that now
BisouToday at 3:50 PM
then why talk about that instead of the topic?
Storm CrowToday at 3:50 PM
Morals in business don't mix.
BisouToday at 3:50 PM
can we talk about the moral topic now?
Storm CrowToday at 3:51 PM
sure
YaeraaToday at 3:51 PM
May i just say 1 thing?
Storm CrowToday at 3:51 PM
please reitterate what you wanted to discuss as the core
BisouToday at 3:51 PM
the topic of why allowing TOs to join own live makes me a moron
YaeraaToday at 3:52 PM
Well 2 things now that you have mentioned that
1.
Like zeph said
BisouToday at 3:53 PM
you called me ignorant and all those accusations because you wouldnt conprehend that i told you this topic is about moral and not business
YaeraaToday at 3:53 PM
Organizer joining their own lives is just wrong
Period
Its against every single tournament policy
BisouToday at 3:53 PM
yae you are going in circles let me take over to resolve this
i will ask the right questions
YaeraaToday at 3:54 PM
Okay
Storm CrowToday at 3:54 PM
because your image as a group organization becomes questionable which causes other departments to also look bad rather your TOs are corrupt or not is not in question here bisou it's public view through a 1 sided glass sheet where people like natsu and kralj don't see the behind the doors business so the moral image of your organization goes down the toliet and you get shit like with the farewell thread where other branches attack you.
BisouToday at 3:54 PM
now let crow answer
ok thats business again
i said moral
try again
Storm CrowToday at 3:54 PM
it's not
you didn't read
BisouToday at 3:55 PM
i did read it and its a business advice, you have never stated ana rgument for why allowing TOs is morally wrong
Storm CrowToday at 3:56 PM
I did like 30 times which is your TO acts as Judge and organizer of the event they the TO makes all final decisions involving any issues that arise and need to be readily available.
BisouToday at 3:57 PM
ok so? thats not morally wrong
Storm CrowToday at 3:57 PM
Umm...... again you're trying to bring morals into business when I stated it doesn't mix.
that is morally wrong in business
BisouToday at 3:58 PM
this topic isnt about business
Storm CrowToday at 3:58 PM
it's be like the referee at a fottball game placing bets on the games he referees
BisouToday at 3:58 PM
then i will fire the referee and give the money back
Storm CrowToday at 3:59 PM
Umm 1 you can't and 2 you'd need proof factual proof which again is business
Not morals
BisouToday at 3:59 PM
yes i can with 1 click
and i have proof from db replays
so you agree that there is nothing morally wrong, only a bad business move
pls say yes
@Storm Crow say yes then we can go to #2
YaeraaToday at 4:02 PM
I have to stop you there
YoshiruToday at 4:02 PM
No you dont, keep going
YaeraaToday at 4:03 PM
Crow said everything how it is
With good will
Storm CrowToday at 4:03 PM
Honestly I'm at the point you're not worth my time to work with. I have learned a lot here and I unfortunately do not see this working out because you're a lone wolf who can't see things from anothers perspective. I will not say yes because this will continue to cycle.   I am here to make something new, not address morals and banter to someone refusing to listen.
Yoshi if you think for a second you can tame a snowflake you are not grown up at all
or as you put it tame bisou to do your will
Not worth it
YoshiruToday at 4:04 PM
You are refering to yaera here
Not me.
Storm CrowToday at 4:04 PM
Bisou belongs free and untamed
YoshiruToday at 4:04 PM
I told you my opinion Zeph
BisouToday at 4:04 PM
it was stated from the beginning that the topic was morals, it is not my fault that you wasted 40 mins talking about business and me trying to bring you back to the actual topic
YaeraaToday at 4:04 PM
No
The topic was resolving the problem
Crow said how it is
Really
BisouToday at 4:05 PM
no the topic was me asking what is morally wrong
YaeraaToday at 4:05 PM
I cant find better words than he did
BisouToday at 4:05 PM
and there has been 0 arguments made for why it isnt
yae, yoshi, is that clear?
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
Actually
YoshiruToday at 4:07 PM
You are asking us if its clear to us
When you dont seem to be the one
BisouToday at 4:07 PM
yes
YoshiruToday at 4:07 PM
To grasp the point
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
I think his arguements are unbreakable
Honestly
BisouToday at 4:07 PM
arguments for the business side?
YaeraaToday at 4:07 PM
No
BisouToday at 4:08 PM
for the moral side?
YaeraaToday at 4:08 PM
ME TALK YOSHI
YoshiruToday at 4:08 PM
You cannot bring emotion and morals into business.If we had Morals chinese workers would not be a thing.
Ill end there.
YaeraaToday at 4:08 PM
Yds
BisouToday at 4:08 PM
yae for the moral side?
YaeraaToday at 4:08 PM
Yes that was zephs point
Morally
I see your point
Ohhhhh
Storm CrowToday at 4:09 PM
I need a drink brb
YaeraaToday at 4:09 PM
But
BisouToday at 4:09 PM
what was zephs point for why allowing tos is morally wrong, disregarding chess moves?
YaeraaToday at 4:09 PM
Like zeph said
For hosting bussiness
You need to be proffesional
Thats what he said
BisouToday at 4:09 PM
right
so answer my question
YaeraaToday at 4:10 PM
Joining your own things is not proffesional 1 bit
Storm CrowToday at 4:10 PM
I have several times
BisouToday at 4:10 PM
that is not what i asked
Storm CrowToday at 4:10 PM
you're legit doing blissful ignorance
YoshiruToday at 4:10 PM
If your own worker uses your product while you produce it to alter the outcome on the production line it is not professionaly or morally right.
BisouToday at 4:10 PM
i was taliing to yae
YaeraaToday at 4:10 PM
Let me talk guys
Crow please interupt
If im saying something wrong
YoshiruToday at 4:10 PM
Never welcome to interupt FeelsBadMan
BisouToday at 4:11 PM
the problem is nobody is answeringmy literal question, everybody goes on a tangent missing my point
YaeraaToday at 4:11 PM
Ask me please
Yes
I understood now
So guys
BisouToday at 4:12 PM
what is morally wrong with allowing TOs? we have already established that its unprofessional and bad business now answer the question
if you say "nothing" then we got it.
YoshiruToday at 4:12 PM
Morals have no place in a business in the first place
YaeraaToday at 4:12 PM
Okay
BisouToday at 4:12 PM
answer the literal question yae
Storm CrowToday at 4:12 PM
you want to know why I said moron
right?
YaeraaToday at 4:12 PM
Yoshi please i beg of you
BisouToday at 4:13 PM
no im talking to yae
YaeraaToday at 4:13 PM
Eat your popcorn
And let me handle this
Yes