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  1. Lesta Nediam LNC2016-02-14 0300 +Vitandum
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irjd5ZjYcMc&google_comment_id=z12zhjhj3sfqvdqq304cefi4ouqshl2y3ho
  3. https://pastebin.com/Ft89QNM6
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  7. +Vitandum __ As it happens I watched a number of videos posted by "Learn of the Jesuit Order" ("LOTJO"). *I always found his videos utterly unconvincing and deeply unsatisfying.*
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  10. Given that he confined himself mostly to talking about "bubbles in space" and "scuba tanks" this move from him was easily anticipated.
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  13. I'm going to write to you as though you genuinely got sucked in by him. If you genuinely got sucked in by him then you are going to feel defensive and want to disagree. That's natural.
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  16. If you're a genuine person then deep down you will know that what I am about to write better explains the situation than a guy who "started out thinking the ISS was fake but gradually came to realise it's real".
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  19. *Hate me now if you must but thank me later.*
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  22. From what you've written you give the impression that you have followed his work fairly closely. So let me see if I have got the story about right:
  23.  
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  25. "LOTJO" did garbage analysis of the alleged "ISS" which he would later ("gradually") come to realise was wrong and then during a moment of enlightenment realised: _"Oh crap - everything I have been saying is wrong - it's real after all!"_
  26.  
  27.  
  28. *You must be new to YouTube if you haven't seen this pattern play out a dozen times already.*
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  30.  
  31. It happens with just about every major news event.
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  34. An agent of disinformation will post videos and talk about an event as though it's fake. Typically these people focus on just one issue. Such as the alleged "ISS", such as the alleged "flat Earth", such as the alleged "ISIS beheadings", such as an alleged "Plane Crash".
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  37. What these people do is always post garbage analysis. Analysis that does not prove anything and does not mean anything. They talk about things that can later be shown to be wrong. That is the entire point of it.
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  39.  
  40. Because later on - the things they were citing as "evidence" are "debunked". They are "proven to be wrong".
  41.  
  42.  
  43. And they have a "change of heart". Suddenly they realise they got it wrong.
  44.  
  45.  
  46. And then they post a video saying they got it wrong or they start posting videos that talk about the event or claim as though it is now real or partly real.
  47.  
  48.  
  49. The point is to bring some belief into an event or claim's reality.
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  51.  
  52. The goal is to take the audience from complete disbelief to belief. If they can't do that then they are to take you from disbelief to doubt.
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  55. It doesn't matter. Anything that moves you along the spectrum from rejection to acceptance.
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  57.  
  58. That is the point.
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  60.  
  61. The reason they post disinformation and worthless commentary is because it can so easily be rejected later on.
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  63.  
  64. The people I have seen doing this tend to flip positions within a year.
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  66.  
  67. As I say - some won't go with a complete reversal - they will instead talk about an event or claim as having elements that are real.
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  70. For example - a channel might talk about how "ISIS" is fake and make fun of it with every article or video.
  71.  
  72.  
  73. But by the end of a year they are now talking about it as though "some elements of it are real".
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  76. It doesn't matter - just so long as people have gone from disbelief to belief or disbelief to doubt.
  77.  
  78.  
  79. *"LOTJO" isn't fooling anyone who has been around to see this happen month after month with different people.*
  80.  
  81.  
  82. Currently it's his turn.
  83.  
  84.  
  85. He is fooling only fools and possibly new people. Anyone fooled by this stunt is set to learn a tough lesson which is that most (if not all) of the popular channels on YouTube are completely and utterly full of sh!t.
  86.  
  87.  
  88. *This strategy has played out too often and it is losing its effectiveness.*
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  90.  
  91. Without a follow-up video to explain his change of heart his reversal is worthless.
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  93.  
  94. After all - he was known for his special brand of humour. How do you know he isn't just bored and playing a prank? "Jeff C" is proudly gloating about how "LOTJO" has now "seen the light" regarding the alleged "ISS". It would be funny as crikey if "LOTJO" posts a follow-up video to all of this with his trademark humour and says "Gotcha!"
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  96. Without a follow-up video that explains the situation we cannot rule that out. Given that "LOTJO" had a sense of humour that permits such a possibility we cannot accept his reversal until we hear more from him.
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  99. Despite what you may say - "LOTJO" *does* need to explain why he changed his mind *IF* he wants *THIS* position reversal video to be taken seriously. If he has flipped his position *because* he was pointing out things that later got proven wrong then his *reversal* means *NOTHING.* Pointing out the wrong things about the alleged "ISS" *does not* mean the "ISS" is real and manned! It only means he was giving garbage commentary and the wrong reasons to doubt it. That doesn't mean the "ISS" is real!
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  101.  
  102. Garbage reasons can be given for anything! Just because you are wrong about something doesn't mean the opposite is true. *That's worthless chump logic.*
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  105. "LOTJO" never talked about the lack of "sufficient proof" (i.e., the lack of sustained duration genuine micro/zero gravity that upon scrutiny remains free from glaring glitches, clever cuts, sneaky edits and misdirecting pans). "LOTJO" never talked about the inability to photograph or film the alleged "ISS" from Earth showing discernible details (all such purported images turn out to be fraudulent - the "ISS from Earth with discernible details" is like a modern day equivalent of "Bigfoot" photos).
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  107.  
  108. Instead "LOTJO" stuck to the same basic things such as "bubbles in space" and "scuba divers". The fact he never touched the "masking glitches" or anything else I have just mentioned is all anyone needs to know to realise he was never serious and was just a ticking truther time-bomb for a role reversal.
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  111. Without hearing more from "LOTJO" there is no way to know if he is even being serious. Until then this video must be dismissed as a worthless stunt. Though one thing he said is definitely true: When "LOTJO" said that he has destroyed his own credibility - he was right. He sure has done that. *"Learn of the Jesuit Order" ("LOTJO") can never be taken seriously by anyone again.* Given he has such a distinctive voice and wit I cannot see how he can resurface here on YouTube again.
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  114. If you are a genuine person and you really believe "LOTJO" had a "genuine transformation" then I'm sorry to say but you got played. By all means hate me now for pointing it out to you *but thank me later when you realise I have accurately assessed the situation.*
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  118. __________________________________________
  119. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
  120. https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg
  121.  
  122. Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
  123. https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ
  124.  
  125. Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
  126. https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1
  127.  
  128. Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
  129. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w
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