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- 2015/02/17 05:00:33 201714768 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: .
- 2015/02/17 05:00:44 201725470 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: Are you free
- 2015/02/17 05:00:46 201727186 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: for a chat
- 2015/02/17 05:01:00 201741272 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Sup?
- 2015/02/17 05:01:07 201748199 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I was snooping
- 2015/02/17 05:01:13 201754938 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I saw your build post
- 2015/02/17 05:01:19 201760819 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: oh, okay.
- 2015/02/17 05:01:29 201770647 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I wanted to point out
- 2015/02/17 05:01:35 201776560 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Did I make a mistake?
- 2015/02/17 05:01:40 201781334 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: that infernal mantle is in my view a bad choice
- 2015/02/17 05:01:48 201789586 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Give me an alternative.
- 2015/02/17 05:01:50 201791770 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: no just want to discuss some of the choices
- 2015/02/17 05:02:07 201808899 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Any rare chest or one of the survivability focused uniques
- 2015/02/17 05:02:27 201828383 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Point being, you can equate this to a burning wander of sorts
- 2015/02/17 05:02:29 201830817 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Such as? Keep in mind that my goal was to use underappreciated/disliked uniques.
- 2015/02/17 05:02:30 201831925 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: it's funny looking
- 2015/02/17 05:02:43 201844218 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: you want a total hipster option?
- 2015/02/17 05:02:45 201846573 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: cloak of flame
- 2015/02/17 05:02:50 201851518 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Hmm.
- 2015/02/17 05:03:20 201881252 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: This build is practically a burning wander with no stick to wave at things
- 2015/02/17 05:03:30 201890987 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: uses a spell instead
- 2015/02/17 05:03:41 201902609 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I'd suggest scaling the fire damage on fire ball as high as possible
- 2015/02/17 05:03:52 201913061 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and IM chops 25% right off
- 2015/02/17 05:04:11 201932264 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Well, it's not 20/20 yet, sadly. I'll reject your Cloak suggestion -- the burning duration is okay, but you're losing a lot of crit chance.
- 2015/02/17 05:04:30 201951858 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and that ES converted to mana is very handy.
- 2015/02/17 05:04:53 201974946 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Sure is but you don't run arctic armour, you always have full unreserved mana
- 2015/02/17 05:05:15 201996412 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and with better resistances on items you don't need purity
- 2015/02/17 05:05:17 201998393 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Not always, but often. And if I switch to voidbringer, then I definitely don't.
- 2015/02/17 05:05:35 202016879 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That's true. But you're missing the point. Did you actually read the guide? You're adding cost.
- 2015/02/17 05:05:47 202028642 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I did
- 2015/02/17 05:06:02 202043602 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I'm glad you've come up with your own suggestions. That's the aim.
- 2015/02/17 05:06:02 202043696 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: but
- 2015/02/17 05:06:48 202089311 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: : |
- 2015/02/17 05:07:08 202109731 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't have this well thought out, or I do, but not in words
- 2015/02/17 05:07:18 202119044 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: okay.
- 2015/02/17 05:07:35 202136345 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Let's start with wandslinging. Can it get that level of pure fire per shot on this budget?
- 2015/02/17 05:07:50 202151399 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Yeah
- 2015/02/17 05:07:54 202155440 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: in standard league, anyway
- 2015/02/17 05:08:08 202169417 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: go on.
- 2015/02/17 05:08:15 202176188 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Piscator's, need I say more?
- 2015/02/17 05:08:30 202191538 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: you don't even need a 5-Link
- 2015/02/17 05:09:01 202222177 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Piscators are so devalued
- 2015/02/17 05:09:13 202234626 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: that item is at least an exalted orb. How much do you think that Quill Rain cost me?
- 2015/02/17 05:09:24 202245031 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I think it dropped in mud flats
- 2015/02/17 05:09:28 202249243 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That item is 10c
- 2015/02/17 05:09:38 202259929 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: quick search reveals it, and I've bought it lower
- 2015/02/17 05:09:56 202277432 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: My quill rain? It was a chaos. Piscator's? Seeing hits for one exalt and up. Point stands. Piscator's adds cost. Significant.
- 2015/02/17 05:10:08 202289210 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Also, you're losing a LOT of projectile speed.
- 2015/02/17 05:10:24 202305700 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: a wand's attack is faster than a fireball
- 2015/02/17 05:11:02 202343842 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That is true. Hm. I'll take that into consideration, but reject the idea that you can achieve that much fire and speed with a wand for the same cost.
- 2015/02/17 05:11:24 202365432 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: this is too formal
- 2015/02/17 05:11:28 202368958 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: lol
- 2015/02/17 05:11:29 202370222 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: also, wands are a stupid choice for botw. Kinetic blast, power siphon. Already out of proportion.
- 2015/02/17 05:11:44 202385213 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: No, you wanted to cross-examine what I've put up, and that's cool. I'm just responding.
- 2015/02/17 05:11:58 202399425 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I know but I don't enjoy this manner of speech
- 2015/02/17 05:12:02 202403793 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I understand what's going on
- 2015/02/17 05:12:06 202407085 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: :P
- 2015/02/17 05:12:16 202417459 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: lol u want dis insted
- 2015/02/17 05:12:17 202418457 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: k
- 2015/02/17 05:12:18 202419752 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: go on
- 2015/02/17 05:12:25 202426741 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I was only equating it to a burning wander
- 2015/02/17 05:12:28 202429096 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: as in
- 2015/02/17 05:12:31 202432840 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: it is mechanically similar
- 2015/02/17 05:12:50 202451108 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: so you can use mechanisms from a build like that in yours
- 2015/02/17 05:13:00 202461030 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: yeah. but what else? is this a criticism, a compliment, I don't know how to take it. Should I have the build taken down?
- 2015/02/17 05:13:27 202488829 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: this is just discussing what can be changed to improve it
- 2015/02/17 05:13:34 202495787 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: at random and chilling
- 2015/02/17 05:13:43 202504211 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: or do you need to tend the chickens
- 2015/02/17 05:14:22 202543820 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I like building on a budget and I like the premise of the build
- 2015/02/17 05:14:47 202568203 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: that's all I brought with me to this conversation
- 2015/02/17 05:15:31 202612132 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Cheers. But I think you're suggesting your own variant, which I appreciate. What I'm asking is, am I making an idiot of myself? I don't really pay attention to the current popular builds, so has this been done?
- 2015/02/17 05:16:34 202675313 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: it _probably_ has been done, and better, you're not making an idiot of yourself per se but you make choices that are straight up subpar
- 2015/02/17 05:16:50 202691443 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and that will anger some people, I'm sure
- 2015/02/17 05:16:58 202699602 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: crit or shit and all the like
- 2015/02/17 05:17:26 202727308 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: also I clicked expecting machine gunning fireballs : |
- 2015/02/17 05:17:42 202742986 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That's not what the title says.
- 2015/02/17 05:17:45 202746777 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: why would you expect that?
- 2015/02/17 05:18:13 202774030 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: because I'm not a native speaker and rail gun equated to machine gun
- 2015/02/17 05:18:16 202776994 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't really care about angering people. if they can do it and better, that's cool. but if it's been done and better, I'd like to know.
- 2015/02/17 05:18:21 202782174 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: okay. They're very different.
- 2015/02/17 05:18:28 202789833 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: yeah, I know
- 2015/02/17 05:18:30 202791144 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: rail gun is a slow firing, piercing weapon.
- 2015/02/17 05:18:42 202803124 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: do I need to add that to the guide? I should.
- 2015/02/17 05:19:30 202851656 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't get the projectile speed thing
- 2015/02/17 05:19:35 202856836 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: why is it important
- 2015/02/17 05:19:48 202869659 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: outside flavour because it's a rail gun
- 2015/02/17 05:20:05 202886523 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I place flavour very high on the list of priorities.
- 2015/02/17 05:20:20 202901467 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: so it doesn't serve any practical purpose?
- 2015/02/17 05:21:21 202962277 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I mean it looks pretty cool
- 2015/02/17 05:21:24 202965662 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I guess
- 2015/02/17 05:21:28 202969250 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Think about it for a moment. Projectile speed means reduced time between casting and damage deliverance. A normal fireball is way too slow. Enemies can physically dodge those. A super fast one stops being a dodgable projectile and becomes a ray.
- 2015/02/17 05:21:37 202978048 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I explained this in the guide, but I might need to be clearer.
- 2015/02/17 05:21:55 202996847 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I never felt it was too slow
- 2015/02/17 05:22:14 203015535 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I think most projectiles (except the snail that is Ball Lightning) in this game are pretty fast
- 2015/02/17 05:22:31 203032072 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Then 250% increased speed is REALLY fast, isn't it? :)
- 2015/02/17 05:22:45 203046876 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: yeah
- 2015/02/17 05:23:07 203068935 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I think the cast time increase makes the projectile speed that much more noticeable
- 2015/02/17 05:23:23 203084176 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Probably. Doedre's Tenure never gets much love.
- 2015/02/17 05:23:31 203092865 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I have a perfect pair somewhere
- 2015/02/17 05:23:35 203096656 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: So I switched cast speed for projectile speed.
- 2015/02/17 05:23:43 203104908 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: again, rail gun like.
- 2015/02/17 05:23:51 203112412 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: yeah that's neat
- 2015/02/17 05:23:56 203117498 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I like the effect
- 2015/02/17 05:24:19 203139977 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: what's your dps when you use a single fireball
- 2015/02/17 05:24:57 203178588 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: do you know off the top of your head
- 2015/02/17 05:25:46 203227073 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: actually I only really need the fire damage brackets
- 2015/02/17 05:27:30 203331937 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Eh, about 4k listed, before the increased damage against ignited. I think. It's only a level 16 fireball, sadly.
- 2015/02/17 05:27:44 203345072 22d [INFO Client 5560] IgnisAeternam: what's the cast time on it?
- 2015/02/17 05:27:50 203351530 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: what's the cast time on it?
- 2015/02/17 05:27:53 203354650 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: keeping in mind I want to stay below the reflect-as-threat threshold.
- 2015/02/17 05:27:57 203358706 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: or how many fire balls per second
- 2015/02/17 05:28:24 203385164 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I want to run some math on it, see what I can come up with
- 2015/02/17 05:28:33 203394836 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Not sure. The doedre's would slow it down. Go stick a fireball in a doedre's. :P
- 2015/02/17 05:29:05 203426177 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I've been looking for something interesting to fuel with raw money : |
- 2015/02/17 05:29:09 203430108 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I have the tree on the build guide, so you can see how much ICR I have there. Probably not much more than Haste.
- 2015/02/17 05:29:16 203437066 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: er, coordination.
- 2015/02/17 05:29:46 203467673 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: "Bitches love statistics" - Ghandi
- 2015/02/17 05:29:48 203469140 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: raw money? This isn't about that. I mean, get a 6L and sure, the build gets a lot better. But it relies on pretty cheap uniques.
- 2015/02/17 05:29:53 203474038 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: yes, I'm sure.
- 2015/02/17 05:30:08 203489810 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I know, but I want to find something I like
- 2015/02/17 05:30:14 203495878 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and scale it to a retarded level
- 2015/02/17 05:30:20 203501869 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: good sort of retarded
- 2015/02/17 05:30:31 203512149 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I'm on a quest : |
- 2015/02/17 05:30:33 203514302 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't think this is that.
- 2015/02/17 05:30:41 203522632 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: you never know
- 2015/02/17 05:30:52 203533646 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: happy to see what you can do.
- 2015/02/17 05:31:15 203556828 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: My theory crafting friends have vanished in the shadow of act 4
- 2015/02/17 05:31:34 203575485 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't have my engineer buddy to run the perfect numbers but I can probably come up with something good
- 2015/02/17 05:31:49 203590040 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: (modifiers are mean beasts)
- 2015/02/17 05:33:58 203719849 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: oh, also, karui ward rocks
- 2015/02/17 05:34:19 203740066 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: It does.
- 2015/02/17 05:34:46 203767694 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: do you choose to be 'disconnected' from the meta
- 2015/02/17 05:34:58 203778989 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I mean, you must
- 2015/02/17 05:35:00 203781859 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Yeah.
- 2015/02/17 05:35:09 203790580 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't need in-game power.
- 2015/02/17 05:35:13 203793996 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I just have fun.
- 2015/02/17 05:35:27 203808379 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That's a neat position to be in
- 2015/02/17 05:35:29 203810485 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: but I don't believe the metagame dictates botw.
- 2015/02/17 05:35:37 203817958 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: knowledge can be a curse in this game
- 2015/02/17 05:35:39 203820641 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: the word Chris uses is 'interesting'. I can do interesting.
- 2015/02/17 05:35:50 203831046 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Heh, I have knowledge of other kinds. And yes.
- 2015/02/17 05:36:03 203844572 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I've been piling up currency
- 2015/02/17 05:36:19 203860686 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and I have no goal
- 2015/02/17 05:36:26 203867114 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Yes, a common situation.
- 2015/02/17 05:36:45 203886489 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: you want to take my basic idea(s) and fund them. Basically.
- 2015/02/17 05:36:57 203898938 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I suppose you can put it that way
- 2015/02/17 05:37:13 203914132 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: A friend is trying to roll me a 6L Infernal Mantle with the right colours. I didn't ask him to, but he's extremely rich in Standard as well.
- 2015/02/17 05:37:28 203929389 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I 6Ld one a while ago but I sold it
- 2015/02/17 05:37:42 203943913 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I tried crit flame totems blood magic
- 2015/02/17 05:37:43 203944287 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: My belief is if something can work on a budget, it's more valuable and worthy than something that cannot.
- 2015/02/17 05:37:52 203953866 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Well
- 2015/02/17 05:37:56 203957469 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Because you can only go up from there.
- 2015/02/17 05:38:00 203961245 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't know if I can agree with that
- 2015/02/17 05:38:08 203969809 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: You don't have to. A lot of players wouldn't.
- 2015/02/17 05:38:16 203977422 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Low life builds
- 2015/02/17 05:38:24 203985035 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I have no respect for those.
- 2015/02/17 05:38:26 203987484 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I mean you can argue that you can use the same skill
- 2015/02/17 05:38:35 203996860 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and it's just a way to scale them stupidly
- 2015/02/17 05:38:43 204004566 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: but really it's the enabling mechanism
- 2015/02/17 05:38:44 204005019 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: They're a bad idea and GGG made a mistake in allowing low life to be a sustainable state rather than a dangerous gamble.
- 2015/02/17 05:38:56 204017857 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: turn all shavs into loricas
- 2015/02/17 05:39:11 204032256 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: and watch the bodies drop : |
- 2015/02/17 05:39:37 204058621 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: can you put a number on your build
- 2015/02/17 05:39:42 204063503 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: The next patch needs to change a lot of things to get this game back on course, and back into GGG's hands.
- 2015/02/17 05:39:47 204068511 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: eh?
- 2015/02/17 05:39:52 204073643 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: what's my price ceiling on this
- 2015/02/17 05:40:15 204095952 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: There isn't one. I created the foundation. That's the important bit. Anyone building on that can do whatever they want. :)
- 2015/02/17 05:40:34 204115670 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: But how much did you spend, so I can dabble around and see how much I can get within that budget
- 2015/02/17 05:41:01 204142128 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I own too many _, I like them too much to ever vendor them : |
- 2015/02/17 05:41:43 204184233 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: so that's already a staple for what I'm making, to keep it budget
- 2015/02/17 05:42:10 204211002 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: this is a complete tangent and my own devices
- 2015/02/17 05:43:53 204314306 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: how much did I spend? Like maybe 10c? I 5s and 5led the mantle myself, got rather lucky with that. The fireball I bought cheap and then used some gcps lying around to bump. I don't know really. Some was from my stash, some from poe trade. The 1c items were gifts, but I figure that counts.
- 2015/02/17 05:44:24 204345818 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: can I assume market price of 1ex on the IM
- 2015/02/17 05:44:29 204350498 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: let's assume the 5l mantle was 150 fusings and, oh, 40-50 chromatic to get that unusual colour combination. I guess.
- 2015/02/17 05:44:39 204360748 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I guess. I dunno. Like I said, I made it.
- 2015/02/17 05:44:54 204375131 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: alright, I have something in mind
- 2015/02/17 05:45:30 204411448 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Mind me adding you? To move around characters
- 2015/02/17 05:46:19 204459995 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I guess there are buttons that answer that question
- 2015/02/17 05:50:55 204735961 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: added, obviously. :)
- 2015/02/17 05:51:06 204747256 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: neat
- 2015/02/17 05:51:15 204756491 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: My stuff is all over the place
- 2015/02/17 05:51:25 204766069 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I murdered too many skill trees with my science
- 2015/02/17 05:51:39 204779954 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: sorry if I seemed hostile at first. I never know where people are coming from when they talk about my build style.
- 2015/02/17 05:51:48 204789672 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: to be fair
- 2015/02/17 05:52:02 204803135 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I don't know what to think of someone so peculiar
- 2015/02/17 05:52:22 204823415 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: so it's fair enough that you react that way
- 2015/02/17 05:52:23 204824398 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I have been called worse, but I'll point out that in native english, some might take that as an insult.
- 2015/02/17 05:52:30 204831730 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I'm quirky.
- 2015/02/17 05:53:06 204867470 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: _
- 2015/02/17 05:53:19 204880231 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: That has been the first thought provoking drop in a long time
- 2015/02/17 05:53:25 204886580 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Thought I'd share
- 2015/02/17 05:53:57 204918623 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: the one and only low lifer I played was an arc marauder using crown of thorns. He'd use Doon for sure, but that was before the Arc buff.
- 2015/02/17 05:54:12 204933178 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: low life marauder
- 2015/02/17 05:54:17 204938575 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: with the keystone?
- 2015/02/17 05:54:23 204944503 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I can see that working
- 2015/02/17 05:54:49 204969947 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: You'd need a really high level to get enough energy shield
- 2015/02/17 05:55:04 204985126 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: I've thought of the same thing using Malachai's Simula
- 2015/02/17 05:55:23 205004845 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Actually energy shield wasn't the thing. I used panicked flasks for instant healing. And arc, well, distance. Anyway, that's in the past.
- 2015/02/17 05:55:37 205018027 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: but yes, blood magic.
- 2015/02/17 05:55:39 205020491 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: that's pretty funny
- 2015/02/17 05:55:54 205035452 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: the whole 'low life gamble'
- 2015/02/17 05:56:46 205087307 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: if it's not a gamble, I'm not interested. the reason I did it was pain attunement was the only way to give Arc the necessary punch back then.
- 2015/02/17 05:57:06 205107805 22d [INFO Client 5560] @Charan: Malachai's simula has a dumb amount of lightning damage
- 2015/02/17 05:57:26 205127118 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: The increased mana (life) cost wasn't worth it.
- 2015/02/17 05:57:34 205135464 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: remember: budget. All my builds. Budget.
- 2015/02/17 05:58:01 205162062 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I mean the mask as an alternative to pain attunement
- 2015/02/17 05:59:25 205246490 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: any strong opinions on elemental proliferation?
- 2015/02/17 06:00:32 205313867 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: Messy. I tried it. Just don't have the slots. If I had a 5th support, it wouldn't be EProlif. It'd be crit damage if blue, GMP if green.
- 2015/02/17 06:00:50 205331308 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: This char uses prolif because he uses flame surge. But Retribution is precision. No prolif.
- 2015/02/17 06:02:27 205428840 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: there's a problem
- 2015/02/17 06:02:38 205439697 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: if you get botw, there's not rail gun mtx for bows
- 2015/02/17 06:06:44 205685867 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: No, but it's more like a fiery ray of judgment. I like how the Shadow uses his palm to cast it when he's wielding a bow.
- 2015/02/17 06:06:56 205697863 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I was thinking about that
- 2015/02/17 06:06:59 205700110 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: for the templar
- 2015/02/17 06:07:02 205703604 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: Maybe they all do it
- 2015/02/17 06:09:26 205847016 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: No, it's quite...varies. The Marauder does it with a two handed sword, the Shadow does not. it seems there are about three casting animations per. Targeted, non targeted, self. Or something.
- 2015/02/17 06:09:30 205851368 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: varied, rather
- 2015/02/17 06:09:42 205863412 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: either way, it works well with quill rain.
- 2015/02/17 06:10:00 205880993 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: .99 secs for a fireball btw.
- 2015/02/17 06:10:12 205893676 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: .7 with FC gem
- 2015/02/17 06:10:31 205912146 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: and the tooltip is 4K?
- 2015/02/17 06:11:00 205941880 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: well this one's 4.3k, but it's not the quality fireball. It's level 17 in an IM. so 18 functionally.
- 2015/02/17 06:11:40 205981879 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I'm trying it out on my flameblaster
- 2015/02/17 06:11:51 205992003 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: with a 16/20 fireball
- 2015/02/17 06:12:20 206021628 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: what I find is that I commit too much to firing one off and if it misses the monsters get to me
- 2015/02/17 06:13:00 206061939 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: Now you're seeing why projectile speed is so important, perhaps.
- 2015/02/17 06:13:18 206079598 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I fire as soon as I see them
- 2015/02/17 06:13:26 206087226 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: but it takes too long to 'reload'
- 2015/02/17 06:13:53 206114558 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: switch tenure for something like maligaro's or voidbringer.
- 2015/02/17 06:14:41 206162076 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: have you ever used explosive arrow
- 2015/02/17 06:16:24 206265676 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I've mucked around with it. Don't like the time bomb style.
- 2015/02/17 06:23:48 206709795 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: anyway
- 2015/02/17 06:23:53 206714304 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: I'm off for the night
- 2015/02/17 06:23:59 206720232 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: later!
- 2015/02/17 06:24:03 206724163 22d [INFO Client 5560] @CelestialRetribution: going to sleep on the rail gun
- 2015/02/17 22:06:35 263276038 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: yesterday I had to leave hastily because the sound of a door opening at 7AM when you're a teenager
- 2015/02/17 22:06:37 263278051 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: isn't the best
- 2015/02/17 22:06:43 263284759 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: but I should clear up something else too
- 2015/02/17 22:07:01 263302215 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I have no trouble with english, I just didn't remember what a rail gun is : |
- 2015/02/17 22:07:04 263305164 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: You don't have to explain your comings and goings to me. It's the net. :)
- 2015/02/17 22:07:11 263312184 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I like to
- 2015/02/17 22:07:16 263317613 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: providing context
- 2015/02/17 22:07:18 263319422 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: as you wish.
- 2015/02/17 22:07:18 263319469 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: is fun
- 2015/02/17 22:07:28 263329422 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: regardless, I thought of something
- 2015/02/17 22:07:36 263337518 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I come and go without explanation. That's just how I am now. I used to explain, but eh. It's just a game. Go on.
- 2015/02/17 22:07:45 263346301 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: ice spear
- 2015/02/17 22:07:56 263357299 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: gets projectile speed from quality and has a higher critical strike chance
- 2015/02/17 22:08:05 263365989 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: the base speed also seems higher
- 2015/02/17 22:08:16 263377611 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: with herald of ice you can trigger a chain reaction
- 2015/02/17 22:08:21 263382041 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: That's true, and I did consider it. I think it's a good variant.
- 2015/02/17 22:08:52 263413881 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: But I think fireball (which looks crap now) looks better as a ray than ice spear. I'd like to see someone do an ice spear variant.
- 2015/02/17 22:09:17 263438326 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: levelling something else at the moment or I would try
- 2015/02/17 22:09:29 263450089 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I got legacy kaom's heart earlier, so I'm going to try some stuff
- 2015/02/17 22:09:30 263451259 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: Also, I find ice spear with herald of ice would be too spammy for my likes. I like how...visually economical my build is.
- 2015/02/17 22:09:49 263470182 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I only like the herald of ash effect
- 2015/02/17 22:10:12 263493005 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: point being, each variant you offer, while likely superior mechanically, is visually less pleasing to me.
- 2015/02/17 22:10:14 263495906 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: but yeah, mechanically, it's a great combination
- 2015/02/17 22:10:31 263512193 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: I haven't tried the ice spear effect though
- 2015/02/17 22:10:33 263514892 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: that might change it up
- 2015/02/17 22:10:43 263524345 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: The fish? Perhaps. I will try it.
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- 2015/02/17 22:12:09 263610317 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: and since you have so much projectile speed, I think the spear gets second form faster
- 2015/02/17 22:12:24 263625824 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: No, it'd be later.
- 2015/02/17 22:12:41 263642095 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Charan: it's time based?
- 2015/02/17 22:13:02 263663717 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: correct. I tested it with faster projectiles a while back.
- 2015/02/17 22:17:18 263919449 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: well it works. Hm.
- 2015/02/17 22:17:34 263935377 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: to be honest
- 2015/02/17 22:17:43 263944191 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: herald of ash should work with spells
- 2015/02/17 22:17:51 263952116 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: It does.
- 2015/02/17 22:17:55 263956655 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: but
- 2015/02/17 22:17:59 263960415 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: the overkill effect
- 2015/02/17 22:18:04 263965532 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: herald of ash only kicks in with physical kills.
- 2015/02/17 22:18:13 263974939 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: There's usually a reason why I'm not using something.
- 2015/02/17 22:18:15 263976623 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Don't think so
- 2015/02/17 22:18:24 263985266 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: absolutely so.
- 2015/02/17 22:18:28 263989259 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: it adds damage to spells
- 2015/02/17 22:18:29 263990710 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I know that
- 2015/02/17 22:18:36 263997215 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: sure, but the overkill? physical only.
- 2015/02/17 22:18:38 263999025 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: but the overkill effect is specific to attacks
- 2015/02/17 22:18:41 264002753 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: not to pysical damage
- 2015/02/17 22:18:45 264006482 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: physical*
- 2015/02/17 22:18:58 264019742 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: 'If you kill an enemy with an attack, other enemies near them will be ignited for the overkill damage.'
- 2015/02/17 22:19:17 264038197 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: ah, of course. that's why it works with my sword.
- 2015/02/17 22:19:20 264041208 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: otherwise EK would get the overkill effect, and I know it doesnt
- 2015/02/17 22:19:21 264042222 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: either way, pointless here.
- 2015/02/17 22:19:27 264048743 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Yeah, it's just unfortunate
- 2015/02/17 22:19:41 264062564 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I don't think so. Balance is good.
- 2015/02/17 22:20:00 264081893 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I don't think like a player, btw. I think like a tester. My concern is the health of the game, not my character's power.
- 2015/02/17 22:20:07 264088710 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: you can't scale the overkill higher than the initial hit
- 2015/02/17 22:20:16 264097586 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: so prolif would always be better
- 2015/02/17 22:20:26 264107305 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: raw burn wise
- 2015/02/17 22:20:32 264113140 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: read: flameblast
- 2015/02/17 22:21:13 264154028 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: ice spear doesn't change form at all really.
- 2015/02/17 22:21:14 264155104 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: What I mean is, it wouldnt make anything unbalanced since proliferation is straight up better, but HoA would provide more variety for sure
- 2015/02/17 22:21:37 264178161 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: ice spear not changing doesn't sound good
- 2015/02/17 22:26:05 264446467 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: yeah, definitely not changing form until almost off-screen.
- 2015/02/17 22:26:22 264462972 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: but that's okay, fireball doesn't explode anymore. So it might be a similar trade off.
- 2015/02/17 22:26:40 264481926 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: need to find a sweet spot in the proj speed numbers
- 2015/02/17 22:26:58 264499305 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: again, variant. lost projectile speed=not my build anymore.
- 2015/02/17 22:29:23 264644354 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I suppose that's true for any change I could make, almost
- 2015/02/17 22:29:44 264665758 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: yep. My basic build was faster projectiles, full piercing spells.
- 2015/02/17 22:29:50 264671655 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: this is nice though.
- 2015/02/17 22:30:08 264689423 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: but to really see it working we'd need proper gear and spec.
- 2015/02/17 22:30:21 264702558 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Yeah, the combination with herald of ice should make it have a lot more AoE possibilities
- 2015/02/17 22:30:46 264727721 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I was thinking of possible combinations with 3 dragons and the such
- 2015/02/17 22:30:51 264732573 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: but nothing really comes to mind
- 2015/02/17 22:30:59 264740935 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: do not mention three dragons to me.
- 2015/02/17 22:31:05 264746878 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: that item is fucking stupid.
- 2015/02/17 22:31:10 264751652 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: ha
- 2015/02/17 22:31:15 264756207 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: how come
- 2015/02/17 22:33:11 264872319 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: it opens up a lot of possibilities, there's some abuse cases with fire spells
- 2015/02/17 22:33:35 264896468 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: precisely.
- 2015/02/17 22:33:54 264915640 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: shock doesn't stack anymore
- 2015/02/17 22:34:04 264925609 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: So in a way, it's not as bad
- 2015/02/17 22:34:12 264933861 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I'll block you if you don't stop. First and last warning.
- 2015/02/17 22:34:18 264939368 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: wow okay
- 2015/02/17 22:34:35 264956544 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I'd really like to see a proper ice spec ice spear railgun.
- 2015/02/17 22:34:44 264965872 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: this is working really well, even with my fear gear and passives
- 2015/02/17 22:36:53 265094324 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: high crit chance and herald explosions go a long way
- 2015/02/17 22:37:42 265143932 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Crap, I'm playing naked marauder and picked up _ a while ago and didn't notice
- 2015/02/17 22:37:53 265154056 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I wonder if it's more obvious with ice spear, and has already been done. Hm.
- 2015/02/17 22:38:09 265169953 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: seen it with cold snap
- 2015/02/17 22:38:25 265186021 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: cold snap can't pierce or move faster. it's not a projectile.
- 2015/02/17 22:38:37 265198673 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: i know but it has been combined with hoi
- 2015/02/17 22:38:47 265208641 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: not what I was talking about.
- 2015/02/17 22:39:01 265222791 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I don't think much has ever been done with piercing spells
- 2015/02/17 22:42:39 265440786 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Thanks a lot for your input. I'm going to do an ice spear with herald of ice. I'd contemplated it but for whatever reason dismissed it. It's far too effective not to.
- 2015/02/17 22:42:56 265457775 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: asked GGG to delete my post. :)
- 2015/02/17 22:42:59 265460364 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: glad to hear
- 2015/02/17 22:43:17 265478539 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I'm throwing something together quickly
- 2015/02/17 22:47:36 265737625 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: I think
- 2015/02/17 22:47:50 265751930 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: your ice spear is so fast that you didn't notice the 1st form
- 2015/02/17 22:47:51 265752586 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: lol
- 2015/02/17 22:48:22 265783521 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: because I just tried it out and it instantly transforms
- 2015/02/17 22:48:29 265790478 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: I took a bunch of screenshots. It remains in first form for longer, for sure. But it doesn't matter, because that first form is still deadly. Second form wrecks off-screeners.
- 2015/02/17 22:48:33 265794097 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: odd.
- 2015/02/17 22:48:36 265797701 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: oh well.
- 2015/02/17 22:48:47 265808215 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: either way. Even on my fire spec, fire geared character, it was better than fireball.
- 2015/02/17 22:48:54 265815860 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: 20/20 ice spear vs 20/20 fireball.
- 2015/02/17 22:48:59 265820072 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: it has a stupid critical strike chance
- 2015/02/17 22:49:02 265823535 22d [INFO Client 1720] @Vachaelle: brb. Need to delete this char.
- 2015/02/17 22:49:52 265873907 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: Why are your characters not levelled high
- 2015/02/17 22:50:02 265883548 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: People take pot-shots at that
- 2015/02/17 22:50:06 265886980 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: I start over a lot when I get a new idea.
- 2015/02/17 22:50:11 265892160 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: Do you think I care? :)
- 2015/02/17 22:50:14 265895358 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: Nope
- 2015/02/17 22:50:23 265904624 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: I did the same but now I'm full on slots
- 2015/02/17 22:50:44 265925544 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: I meant the pot shots. People always take pot shots. They're flies buzzing around a sleeping dog.
- 2015/02/17 22:51:05 265946854 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: I know, I don't think you care about them
- 2015/02/17 22:51:08 265949584 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: I only get concerned when someone I respect takes pot shots. And that doesn't happen often.
- 2015/02/17 22:51:23 265964232 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: Yeah, that's worth being worried over
- 2015/02/17 22:51:30 265971455 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: In your case, you've completely destroyed an idea of mine but you've replaced it with something better. I really respect and appreciate that.
- 2015/02/17 22:51:35 265976743 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: regardless, I find pushing an idea to the limit is often fun
- 2015/02/17 22:51:41 265982703 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: but you had to prove to me thoroughly why my idea was bad. :)
- 2015/02/17 22:51:56 265997523 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: that's cool. Not my style. I'm just here to have fun. I think I said that earlier.
- 2015/02/17 22:52:11 266012015 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: checking which chars have respecs.
- 2015/02/17 23:11:32 267174893 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: thread/1191386 that's what I pushed really far, with some corruptions, it worked out nicely
- 2015/02/17 23:11:42 267184815 22d [INFO Client 1720] @DeRigueurMortars: that's what I was about to say
- 2015/02/17 23:11:54 267196780 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I think I can do this with about 12-15 regrets. No need to start over.
- 2015/02/17 23:12:11 267213145 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I was testing on this witch
- 2015/02/17 23:12:16 267218917 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: for reasons, she has blood magic
- 2015/02/17 23:13:03 267265202 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: any other items I should know about that you don't like
- 2015/02/17 23:13:41 267303438 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Not a fan of shavronne's wrapping or soul taker.
- 2015/02/17 23:14:01 267323609 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: soul taker is too fun for me to dislike it
- 2015/02/17 23:14:17 267340036 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: _
- 2015/02/17 23:14:31 267353421 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: going to see what mileage I get with power charges
- 2015/02/17 23:14:43 267365995 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I argued with the designer of Soul taker for an hour why it's bad. As for Voll's, that's cool. Yeah, worth considering.
- 2015/02/17 23:16:06 267448738 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: at any rate, I prefer having soul taker in the game rather than acuity
- 2015/02/17 23:16:15 267458004 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: both are infinite resources
- 2015/02/17 23:16:18 267460906 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: oh yes. That was another mistake.
- 2015/02/17 23:16:34 267476755 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: acuity is like ST for crit
- 2015/02/17 23:20:08 267690430 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: _ I knew this would be useful some day
- 2015/02/17 23:20:32 267714423 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I love that item. Also, quality ice spear gets projectile speed. I'm at 318% speed, using pyre. This is pretty funny.
- 2015/02/17 23:20:48 267730366 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: pyre loses the aoe from HoI
- 2015/02/17 23:20:52 267734485 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: but it's funny
- 2015/02/17 23:20:58 267740132 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: I like how they explode instead
- 2015/02/17 23:21:13 267755576 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: it's worth it for the extra spell damage.
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- 2015/02/17 23:21:40 267782299 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: possibly, for single target
- 2015/02/17 23:21:50 267792891 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: I linked increased AoE to HoI and it makes a large difference
- 2015/02/17 23:25:02 267984195 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: I don't know if you checked the thread I mentioned earlier, but it's all my own design
- 2015/02/17 23:25:15 267997315 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I did not. what was the number again?
- 2015/02/17 23:25:22 268004429 22d [INFO Client 1720] @AfraenAngelflay: 1191386
- 2015/02/17 23:26:01 268043507 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: you try way too hard.
- 2015/02/17 23:26:12 268054349 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: huh
- 2015/02/17 23:26:47 268089777 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I wanted to make something I would like
- 2015/02/17 23:27:03 268105689 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: for a build I had fun with
- 2015/02/17 23:27:15 268117795 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: the guide. Overdone imo. Flashy. I guess that's what people need these days. Also, tornado shot's headed for some serious reality check. I'm glad you enjoy it.
- 2015/02/17 23:27:28 268130790 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: It can be played as rain of arrows
- 2015/02/17 23:27:31 268133676 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: or split arrow
- 2015/02/17 23:27:41 268143348 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: TS is too powerful to pass up ATM
- 2015/02/17 23:28:12 268174173 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: It might be a little flashy but I'm a sucker for aesthetics
- 2015/02/17 23:29:36 268258133 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: as a lot of people are. perhaps I should try that with my botw submission, but quite frankly, I've decided I'm entirely too devoted to just having fun to get botw.
- 2015/02/17 23:30:30 268312531 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: GGG's tendency is to pick mechanically solid builds, no real wiggle room for them to fail
- 2015/02/17 23:30:48 268330440 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I can only remember one video of a really end game character
- 2015/02/17 23:30:52 268335042 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: the dual EK low life totem
- 2015/02/17 23:31:05 268347381 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: low life dual EK totem, that order of words makes more sense
- 2015/02/17 23:32:18 268421045 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I guess the vaal molten shell scold's build was pretty whacky too
- 2015/02/17 23:36:57 268699850 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: that was an ignore check : |
- 2015/02/17 23:37:14 268716183 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: it's unfortunate but true, it's not really about interesting builds
- 2015/02/17 23:37:15 268717712 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: wow, people do that? interesting. if I block you, I'll let you know.
- 2015/02/17 23:37:24 268726667 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: neat
- 2015/02/17 23:38:09 268771096 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I never know
- 2015/02/17 23:38:14 268776134 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: how you're going to take things
- 2015/02/17 23:38:27 268789675 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: so I decided I'd check
- 2015/02/17 23:38:57 268819940 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: PoE is full of autistic-like people who are all about math and stats and min/max. I have no time for people like that. They bore me.
- 2015/02/17 23:39:06 268828956 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I did just open
- 2015/02/17 23:39:21 268843184 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: why autistic-like, everyone wants to play fotm in every game
- 2015/02/17 23:40:28 268910311 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: not everyone.
- 2015/02/17 23:40:36 268918127 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: practically everyone
- 2015/02/17 23:41:00 268942759 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: maybe since poe has so many possibilities, you'd expect there to be more acceptance of variety
- 2015/02/17 23:41:03 268945817 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: No. And as long as there are a few people who don't, I'll be fine. I used to run one of the biggest guilds on here, full of people who don't care for fotm.
- 2015/02/17 23:41:24 268966409 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: no, not since the Kripparrian effect. We got flooded with idiots and sheep.
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- 2015/02/17 23:41:55 268997609 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: the problem I have
- 2015/02/17 23:42:09 269011758 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: is that my fun is tied to efficiency
- 2015/02/17 23:42:23 269025814 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I've been spoiled
- 2015/02/17 23:42:48 269050759 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Kripp made brutally efficient builds
- 2015/02/17 23:43:09 269071975 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: and got popular, that's the 2 ingredients for reducing variety
- 2015/02/17 23:43:34 269096873 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: it's sort of bound to happen in every game
- 2015/02/17 23:45:55 269237414 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: the crowd is fluid, and just like water, will take the path of least resistance
- 2015/02/18 00:03:24 270286287 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Not every game, but most I suppose. I think GGG could have prevented this by not whoring themselves to a free to play community.
- 2015/02/18 00:04:00 270322666 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I have to collect my thoughts on this
- 2015/02/18 00:04:21 270343118 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I'm only good at getting a feel for things
- 2015/02/18 00:04:54 270376549 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I mean this in regard to the whole conversation
- 2015/02/18 00:06:34 270476296 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I need to get a more concrete opinion and solid arguments
- 2015/02/18 00:07:14 270516622 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: Also, I guess I'm sort of autistic, I like math and min maxing ;__;
- 2015/02/18 00:07:37 270539273 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: This game attracts that sort. I feel we artistic ones are in the massive minority.
- 2015/02/18 00:07:52 270554717 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: there's so many numbers to crunch
- 2015/02/18 00:08:03 270565482 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: PoE is theorycrafting heaven
- 2015/02/18 00:08:36 270598757 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: getting the highest numbers is in itself a game, to be honest
- 2015/02/18 00:09:04 270627071 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I know plenty of people who think as you do. None of this is news to me. Nor is it particularly interesting.
- 2015/02/18 00:09:23 270645136 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: I try to be mechanically creative
- 2015/02/18 00:09:38 270660252 22d [INFO Client 1720] @CelestialRetribution: see above.
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