Graphics Discussion

<Eri7 is not 100% useless> - Today at 7:30 PM https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332118704982589441/372799208769716224/show-1.png?width=789&height=428
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/332118704982589441/372799208769716226/show-2.png
<Exiled Bowser> - Today at 7:33 PM That looks amazing!
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:02 PM I beg to differ
Magically recoloring Sednaiur's grass BGOs to smb1 does not change the style
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:03 PM it's really messy
there's so much stuff
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:03 PM Also the seaweed in the first screen is poorly placed
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:03 PM it's very cluttered
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:03 PM The palm tree in the second is butt ugly
No distinction of leaves at all
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:04 PM Saw the tree
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:04 PM The infill tiles are awful too
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:04 PM Eeeeyuck
Looks like a coloring book
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:04 PM Eri7 do you have any sense of judgement when it comes to what goes well together
Because until proven otherwise I don't think you do
@Eri7 is not 100% useless now are you gonna take our criticisms or ignore them
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:25 PM what's so bad with graphical richness
like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/332118704982589441/372813552102146069/Mystery_Ruins_1.png
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:28 PM What the fuck is this lmao
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:28 PM sm63
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:28 PM This is incredibly messy
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:28 PM can you like not
this has earned me very high graphic scores in 2015
you're just not used to it
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:28 PM For starters the background is pieced together as if it was glitched
No I'm not used to it
I'm used to good composition
You've got varying level styles messily scrunched together
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:29 PM sm63's engine allows for a high variety of aesthetics
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:29 PM High variety does not always mean a good thing
Quality =/= quantity
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:29 PM there's no dogma that levels need to be uniformly styled
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:29 PM You have high quantity and low quality
I'm not saying there should be
But if you're going to mix two different styles or themes
Do it smoothly
Use your best judgement to know what fits together and what won't regardless of style
And, of course, there's plenty of styles that don't go well together no exceptions
Satan - Today at 8:31 PM Lmfao
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:31 PM you say "graphical richness"
(which btw sounds dumb)
i say "clutter"
Satan - Today at 8:32 PM I’m going to be real and say that the background kind of looks like you were running out of blocks to build a Minecraft house so you just used every block you had
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:33 PM What both Ryaa and wind said
Satan - Today at 8:33 PM “You’re just not used to it” Welp
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:34 PM I will add that to my list of criticism responses that annoy the shit out of me
Along with "it looks fine to me" and "that's your opinion"
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:34 PM I'd get lost quite easily in that picture
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:34 PM those dirt tiles in the beach/autumn forest levels look too "soft"
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:34 PM welp, that can't be changed in sm63
and it's grass, not beach
Satan - Today at 8:35 PM How high of a score did this “collect of graphics” get
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:35 PM ^
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:35 PM iirc 5, 5, 5 and 4.5
out of 5
Satan - Today at 8:35 PM Okay so first of all
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:35 PM Jesus
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:35 PM Who judged this
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:35 PM Sm63 Community sounds hella uninformed
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:35 PM he wasnt talking to you
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:36 PM Also how bad was the others
Good lord
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:36 PM what's sm63
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:36 PM its a flash game(?) where you can make levels
Satan - Today at 8:36 PM The SM63 community needs to take a step back
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:36 PM does it have fludd?
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:36 PM It's 2D SM64 but not as good
Yep
Satan - Today at 8:37 PM Because this bullshit that you just posted is like a 2 out of 5
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:37 PM i think i remember playing this
Satan - Today at 8:37 PM What the fuck
savordez aka wind - Today at 8:37 PM yeah
it has fludd
The0x539 - Today at 8:37 PM the SM63 community needs to stop using Flash
Satan - Today at 8:37 PM The SM63 community needs to be stopped
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:37 PM yoshi's island has some really nice backgrounds
it's unfortunate that the sprites can look so pixelated in contrast
The0x539 - Today at 8:37 PM the SMBX community needs to stop using VB6
that means me
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:37 PM Ryaa I'd give it a 1 out of 5 top
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:37 PM The SM63 community is like the anti SMBX community
Satan - Today at 8:38 PM I would too but I’m keeping my nice streak
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:38 PM The way the blocks are laid out
The random bushed hanging from nowhere
And the background
Just ugh
The0x539 - Today at 8:38 PM hey
we had an upside down tree hase
phase
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:38 PM It offends me
Yes I know
I heavily participated in it
It's BAD
It's lazy
Satan - Today at 8:39 PM Upside down tree
That just gave me an idea for a level omg
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:39 PM Make vine BGOs for crying out loud
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:39 PM i don't know how people don't just look at stuff like this and immediately notice that something is horribly wrong
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:39 PM @Satan "the sm63 community needs to be stopped" - well, nowadays it's almost stopped(edited)
there are like, 10 posts on a good day
also normally I'd support trashtalking a community that gave me narcisstic bullying for almost two years
but regarding this subject I really don't
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:40 PM Internet is garbage
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:43 PM also @The0x539 maybe one day, the SM63 community will stop using Flash. But assuming it does, it's gonna be the LL community, if Runouw and his team manage to do it.
The0x539 - Today at 8:43 PM LL?
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:43 PM Last Legacy
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:43 PM Runouw?
The0x539 - Today at 8:43 PM never heard of it
really I'm just armchair preaching
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:43 PM I haven't heard that name in years
The0x539 - Today at 8:43 PM more importantly SSF2 needs to get their shit together
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:43 PM yeah I should try to not use the acronym LL
The0x539 - Today at 8:43 PM flash has been dead and now it's official
but they're still making a 30FPS fighting game with flash
all just to prove a point that can't be proven
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:44 PM of course it's dead. SM63's engine is highly restricted and still allows for artistic creativity
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:44 PM I have fond memories of flash games
But flash should die
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:44 PM Controls are wonksters in SSF2
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:44 PM the sm63 community would have attracted many many talented users if it only wasn't for its garbage staffing and way too lax maintenance
glitch4 - Today at 8:44 PM lets play wario land flash on windows explorer 9
Satan - Today at 8:45 PM Um
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:45 PM I'll play sonic flash instead
Satan - Today at 8:45 PM There was this one site and idk if it was SMBX before the whole redigit thing but it had all of the Mario flash games
Even super chick sisters :skull:
glitch4 - Today at 8:46 PM wut
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:46 PM super chick sisters lmao
The0x539 - Today at 8:46 PM supermariobrothers.org?
Satan - Today at 8:46 PM I think so
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:46 PM well, that was Redigit already?
Satan - Today at 8:46 PM I was p young so I barely remember
The0x539 - Today at 8:46 PM yeah that was hosted by redigit
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:46 PM Smiley's war lmfak
*lmfao
The0x539 - Today at 8:46 PM and that was the subject of nintendo's legal action towards redigit as far as we know
not smbx
Satan - Today at 8:46 PM That’s where I found super mario flash tbh
Superspook2 (The Greedy Bone) - Today at 8:47 PM I remember playing thus game where you play as bowser the size of godzilla and utterly wreck the shit out of a town
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:47 PM registering a site named supermariobrothers.org is kinda unimaginably stupid to be fair
The0x539 - Today at 8:47 PM kill me
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:47 PM gladly
trick-or-treatlord - Today at 8:47 PM Redigit was making money off smborg too wasn't he
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:47 PM what's your preferred method
Satan - Today at 8:47 PM He was
The0x539 - Today at 8:47 PM liquefaction
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:57 PM so, this is a level that was considered one of the best ever in term of graphics, and it's not from me
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332118704982589441/372820966197297162/Exterrestra.png?width=434&height=429
this time at least it's no two vastly different themes combined
also the white spot on the large bushes on top left is a big goomba hidden behind the bush
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:58 PM i REALLY hate that mario sprite
mario's walk cycle looks so weird in superstar saga
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 8:58 PM well, that's what you blame the game for
not the designers
The0x539 - Today at 8:59 PM god what a mess
kyasarintsu - Today at 8:59 PM is it just me or do those yoshi's island sprites look weirdly resized
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 9:00 PM well, depends on my zooming
resizing doesn't exist in sm63
but rotation does
kyasarintsu - Today at 9:00 PM if i click the image to get the larger version in discord, is that the original image?
Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 9:01 PM well, I cut out a graphical mishap which, again, is to be blamed on the engine
I know it should have been made a lot more custimizable at some time
but it also has a benefit? ... it's not complicated and hard to learn at all
doesn't require skill and intellect like lua

[insert discussion about lua]

Knuckles' Jump Is So Short - Today at 9:15 PM anyway, my hopefully final words on the graphics matter: I'm really annoyed of being told that if I ever make an sm63 pack and make levels for it, I can neither remake my own works nor can I keep up my original style
and that things can never be colorful overall