Zahra vs. Afro on defending AoS servers

Zehra - Today at 20:43
Servers need better security.
Right now, doesn't take much to prevent anyone from joining them.

MuffinTastic - Today at 20:44
:thinking: do you mean there aren't many ways to prevent people from joining
because it not taking much means it's easy lmao

Zehra - Today at 20:56
It's easy as hello world...
You send 32 connections of 'client joining' and don't cancel them...
Fills up the server slot for players...
Even if you have a timeout value.
10 minutes of not being able to join could annoy some people.
Doesn't take much to write something to keep the connections open.
Servers should NOT permit 32 connections from a single IP...

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:00
and most don't, the default is 3 connections max per ip

Afrodude - Today at 21:00
i didnt realize this was an issue

Zehra - Today at 21:00
Easy to bypass...
If you have the right tools, you can easily load the servers.

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:00
so you just dismantled your own argument
nice

Zehra - Today at 21:01
I heard one person had 32 players from a single house joining a server.
(Thought it was default.)
But still, 3 connections is a bit too much.
10 different IPs and the server remains unable to join for anyone.

Afrodude - Today at 21:02
lol
Coco - Today at 21:02
are you implying there are people that do that
so that its an issue

Zehra - Today at 21:03
Coco, I'm not sure if anyone has done it, but it certainly is possible.

Coco - Today at 21:03
oh

Afrodude - Today at 21:03
LOL

Coco - Today at 21:03
so its not that much of an issue
more of an hypothesis

Zehra - Today at 21:03
Maybe we'll see an outbreak of servers being unavailable.

Afrodude - Today at 21:04
so you basically are assuming its possible you dont actually know

Zehra - Today at 21:04
@Afrodude  prevent the issue before someone abuses it.

Afrodude - Today at 21:04
and from that have decided theres a security problem
but

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:04
some dude would have to run like 3 proxies on the same computer just to do this

Afrodude - Today at 21:04
you dont know if there is an issue

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:04
or 3 proxies and 4 computers
that's way too much effort for a game like this
that's just stupid lmao

Afrodude - Today at 21:04
this is hilarious

Zehra - Today at 21:04
Yeah, they would probably knock the servers offline instead of loading them.

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:05
wrong

Afrodude - Today at 21:05
he completely made up a problem and decided that servers have bad security
omg

Zehra - Today at 21:05
Well, it depends.
It's possible.

Afrodude - Today at 21:05
you assume

Zehra - Today at 21:06
That is what counts...
You decide if it is an issue or not.

Afrodude - Today at 21:06
uh
its not a problem if its not a problem

Zehra - Today at 21:06
Here's your logic...
Because someone hasn't done it = it is not an issue.

Afrodude - Today at 21:06
oh this oughta be good
right
exactly
a non existent problem is not a problem

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:08
yes it's POSSIBLE for someone to run twelve billiondy proxies across 10 computers on their local network and fill a server
but who is gonna do that
who

<Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:08
gee I'd hate to let this breach of security go on and potentially disappoint the 50 people that still play this

noom - Today at 21:08
you could have come up with infinite number of problems like this

Afrodude - Today at 21:08
there is no breach of security
he made it up

Zehra - Today at 21:09
Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.

Afrodude - Today at 21:09
what

MuffinTastic - Today at 21:09
lol

Zehra - Today at 21:09
Gee, I wonder why this game is so buggy.

noom - Today at 21:09
?
Afrodude - Today at 21:09
WHAT
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:09
??????????
Afrodude - Today at 21:09
LMFAO
Zehra - Today at 1:09 PM
Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.
Zehra - Today at 1:09 PM
Gee, I wonder why this game is so buggy.
IM CRYING LAUGHING OMG
noom - Today at 21:10
screenshot it(edited)
pin it
enjoy it
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:10
ur so cool u can write scripts ahuhauhehuhue
noom - Today at 21:10
hackerman
Afrodude - Today at 21:11
bro i cant stop laughing someone help
noom - Today at 21:11
same
<Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:11
kid u better stfu before i call up my boys and we pastebin your ass into eternity
noom - Today at 21:11
Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.
Afrodude - Today at 21:11
your gay ass*
or was it dumb ass
cant remember
Zehra - Today at 21:11
Meh.
Someone could easily break this game.
Afrodude - Today at 21:12
wow thank you for being such a complete idiot
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:12
define "break into"
Afrodude - Today at 21:12
made my day
noom - Today at 21:12
surely you can
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:12
ah my bad i saw an "into" where there was none
in any case, joining with 32 clients won't break a server
it's just retarded
Zehra - Today at 21:13
Yes, it just loads the server...
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:13
yep, and it wastes the time of the """attacker""" because people can just join other servers
Zehra - Today at 21:13
Who cares about breaking servers, if they are just loaded.
Afrodude - Today at 21:13
literally nobody would ever bother doing that
Zehra - Today at 21:13
Also means they have 'fake' player counts.
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:14
it's not fake player counts
fake player counts are when the server host directly sends false information to the server list
there are real players there, they're just empty shells
Zehra - Today at 21:14
Yes.
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:14
uhh
Afrodude - Today at 21:15
i still cant believe he implied i had anything to do with the game being "buggy"
thats hilarious
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:16
>Someone could easily break this game.
>Who cares about breaking servers, if they are just loaded.
:thinking:
Zehra - Today at 21:16
Different ways of messing the game.
Meh, nothing happens, unless something actually happens.
Afrodude - Today at 21:17
right
exactly
why do you say that as though its not true
seems very obvious
noom - Today at 21:18
Everything can be broken or messed with, unless it's something serious there is no reason to waste time on it(edited)
Spring - Today at 21:18
Why does all of this lowkey seem like a threat?(edited)
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:18
it is a threat, he's writing a SCRIPT
be very afraid
Afrodude - Today at 21:19
hes the only person thats ever even thought of doing that
noom - Today at 21:19
it's an attack at this stage
LUL
Zehra - Today at 21:19
It depends on who uses it and how.
Spring - Today at 21:20
“Maybe we'll see an outbreak of servers being unavailable.”
Afrodude - Today at 21:20
the answer is nobody
ever
Spring - Today at 21:20
This seems like a passive aggressive threat to me
Afrodude - Today at 21:20
thats your who and how right there
Spring - Today at 21:20
What’s your deal oatmeal
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:20
how else do you use this, other than filling servers
there's literally no other way to use it
you just fill servers
Afrodude - Today at 21:20
he also said hed write a script to do it and deleted the message
Zehra - Today at 21:20
I'll just work and record a video of a local test.
Afrodude - Today at 21:20
why
noom - Today at 21:20
why
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:21
you're going to record yourself filling a local server?
Zehra - Today at 21:21
On second thought, I won't even bother.
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Coco - Today at 21:21
so you just proved their point
Zehra - Today at 21:21
(Game never going to get fixed.)
Afrodude - Today at 21:21
lmfao
noom - Today at 21:21
:clap:
Coco - Today at 21:21
not even someone who suggested it happened isn't going to do it
Afrodude - Today at 21:21
LOL
noom - Today at 21:22
problem solved
Coco - Today at 21:22
because its too much work for little to no benefit
Afrodude - Today at 21:22
"guys this is totally a problem someone will do this"
"you know what even i cant be fucked to do this"
unreal
noom - Today at 21:22
at least i had a good laugh
Spring - Today at 21:23
Well if we witness someone trying to connect many times to the same server we’ll know who it is
Afrodude - Today at 21:24
my day is so much better because of that holy shit
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:26
it's rude to make fun of the dialed
*disabled
Zehra - Today at 21:26
Someone could write a better system.
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:26
>:(
ok use my system
Zehra - Today at 21:26
Maybe we'll one day see a better server and client.
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:27
we already have both
B)
Zehra - Today at 21:27
Actually never going to happen.
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10se1ucgo - Today at 21:27
https://github.com/10se1ucgo/ace.py already done
begone
ape
Zehra - Today at 21:28
not completed.
noom - Today at 21:28
what do you consider as "completed"
Zehra - Today at 21:28
Same as many projects.
noom - Today at 21:28
?
Coco - Today at 21:29
a game that has no non-existant problems
Zehra - Today at 21:29
:thinking:
Let me know when you find it Coco.
Coco - Today at 21:30
no such thing
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:31
ain't no game that hasn't not got no non-existant non-problems
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:31
actually ace.py is pretty complete enough to play full games on
maybe work to complete it instead of complaining about incomplete projects
Zehra - Today at 21:31
That's what afrodude needs to do.
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:32
????????????
Afrodude - Today at 21:32
what
Zehra - Today at 21:32
Actually do something.
Afrodude - Today at 21:32
wait
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:32
.
Afrodude - Today at 21:32
wait
WHAT
noom - Today at 21:32
wtf?
Zehra - Today at 21:32
Maybe if you could do something, we wouldn't be here.
noom - Today at 21:32
you're the one who started complaining about everything
Afrodude - Today at 21:32
LOL
I CANT
wow
like
noom - Today at 21:32
is he trolling
Zehra - Today at 21:32
I am complaining about his excuses for not doing anything.(edited)
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:33
what excuses?????
Afrodude - Today at 21:33
ive been getting blamed for stuff i didnt do for years around here
but this is next level
Zehra - Today at 21:33
Constantly switching the topic.
Afrodude - Today at 21:33
w h a t
noom - Today at 21:33
he didn't complain about everything like you did, so why should he be the one to do something ?? i'm confused(edited)
<Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:34
its cause he black obv
Zehra - Today at 21:34
LOL everyone here says something stupid..
Only when I do it, others complain.... hmmm...
noom - Today at 21:34
especially you
Afrodude - Today at 21:34
why should i have to do anything lol
im so lost
Zehra - Today at 21:35
Get a map and find where you are.
:p
Afrodude - Today at 21:35
bruh
Coco - Today at 21:35
everyone will get shit on if they say something stupid
you are no exception
noom - Today at 21:36
he is very smart
Coco - Today at 21:36
muffin has explained the facts behind it and presented why its not necessarily something to be worried about or that is ruining the entire game for players
Techno - Today at 21:36
I just read through all of that, should I be dying of laughter or dying of idiocy?
Spring - Today at 21:36
Yes
noom - Today at 21:36
both
asianguy - Today at 21:36
both
Zehra - Today at 21:36
I suggest something might be an issue and I get afrodude complaining with blah, blah.
MuffinTastic - Today at 21:36
all three things
Spring - Today at 21:37
Why are you laying the blame at afrodude’s feet of all people
Techno - Today at 21:37
this isn't an issue
this is a hypothetical that you thought of
Zehra - Today at 21:37
Muffin explained things, rather than afro making dumb comments.
So it was reasonable.
Techno - Today at 21:37
im sure everyone can think of a hypothetical, it doesn't mean someone is going to do it
Zehra - Today at 21:37
Could have left it at that.
noom - Today at 21:37
what did afro did to u that ur attacking specifically him
Techno - Today at 21:37
who in the right mind would use proxies to fill up the server with just themselves
it's a  waste of time and there's no point to it
Afrodude - Today at 21:37
>complaining
Zehra - Today at 21:38
Afro does what he always does.
Afrodude - Today at 21:38
how is me calling you an idiot complaining
WHAT
Techno - Today at 21:38
im commenting, or so you'd like to call it "complaining" on this stupid "issue" as well(edited)
bash me also
Afrodude - Today at 21:38
Zehra - Today at 1:38 PM
Afro does what he always does.
i love it
sigged
Coco - Today at 21:39
zehra does what he always does too, complain about idiotic things
<Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:40
me too
Zehra - Today at 21:40
Lets just all leave it at that.
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:40
dude the servers can easily be overloaded!!
Coco - Today at 21:40
you and afro have good synergy
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:40
o-oh there's an option in server files to limit connections by IP
oh
noom - Today at 21:40
he has a script
Afrodude - Today at 21:40
im astounded
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:41
The potential for servers to be downed may exist but has never caused an issue, thus noone paid attention to it
Techno - Today at 21:41
let's just drop this subject, no need to argue on this
Zehra - Today at 21:41
This is getting out of hand, so let us just leave it at that.
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:41
this may seem "risky" but it really isn't cause there's not much at stake here that can't be fixed
Afrodude - Today at 21:41
https://puu.sh/zaRBD/d9ea014eb3.png
thanks for the content homie
Coco - Today at 21:42
discord memes are the best memes
flush out irc
Zehra - Today at 21:42
Thanks for the explaination @argo@on-the-dole
Afrodude - Today at 21:42
what
i literallly said
the same shit
Zehra - Today at 21:42
I'll next time make sure to check an issue is actually an issue before posting.
noom - Today at 21:42
that's what we said
the first time
Afrodude - Today at 21:42
what
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:42
That is what they said
noom - Today at 21:42
wtf?
argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:42
I did read back
Afrodude - Today at 21:42
hes trolling
ok
noom - Today at 21:43
enough
Zehra - Today at 21:43
Agreed.(edited)
Coco - Today at 21:45
:pizza:
🌭2
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Techno - Today at 21:47
Would anyone like to play aos with me? :heart:
Coco - Today at 21:47
why would anyone play that buggy game
Techno - Today at 21:48
:/
noom - Today at 21:48
me
Techno - Today at 21:48
coco pls don't lol
Afrodude - Today at 21:48
yeah dude im not playing that shit too many security issues
asianguy - Today at 21:48
agreed
Techno - Today at 21:48
afro
Afrodude - Today at 21:48
probably my fault
Coco - Today at 21:48
wtf afro why didn't u fix them
its ur duty
Techno - Today at 21:48
OH MY GOD
asianguy - Today at 21:48
he has to prove it first man
then he believes it
Techno - Today at 21:48
guys stop
someone play with me
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:49
ironic autism is still autism
Afrodude - Today at 21:49
nah bro someones gonna fill up all the servers
asianguy - Today at 21:49
sometimes i wonder why this game is so buggy
Afrodude - Today at 21:49
we cant play with this very real and comprehensive issue
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:49
it's because I made it
Techno - Today at 21:49
can you guys stop
we dropped this
Coco - Today at 21:50
once a meme has been born, it has to complete its life cycle
asianguy - Today at 21:50
yup
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
you guys are killing it faster than it was born
Afrodude - Today at 21:50
you know me techno
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
stale meme
asianguy - Today at 21:50
it was born a long time ago
Afrodude - Today at 21:50
as they say afro does what he always does
Techno - Today at 21:50
I do know you
:frowning:
10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
tragic
Zehra - Today at 21:53
Shocking new report - All players quit AoS in rage of massive security breaches...
<Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:53
thank god
Zehra - Today at 21:53
Players are advised to delete the email accounts they registered with and to change ISPs.
Spring - Today at 21:53
If you are this much of a threat perhaps we should just ban you
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
asianguy - Today at 21:54
oof
Zehra - Today at 21:54
:p