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Zahra vs. Afro on defending AoS servers

Jan 27th, 2018
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  1. Zehra - Today at 20:43
  2. Servers need better security.
  3. Right now, doesn't take much to prevent anyone from joining them.
  4.  
  5. MuffinTastic - Today at 20:44
  6. :thinking: do you mean there aren't many ways to prevent people from joining
  7. because it not taking much means it's easy lmao
  8.  
  9. Zehra - Today at 20:56
  10. It's easy as hello world...
  11. You send 32 connections of 'client joining' and don't cancel them...
  12. Fills up the server slot for players...
  13. Even if you have a timeout value.
  14. 10 minutes of not being able to join could annoy some people.
  15. Doesn't take much to write something to keep the connections open.
  16. Servers should NOT permit 32 connections from a single IP...
  17.  
  18. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:00
  19. and most don't, the default is 3 connections max per ip
  20.  
  21. Afrodude - Today at 21:00
  22. i didnt realize this was an issue
  23.  
  24. Zehra - Today at 21:00
  25. Easy to bypass...
  26. If you have the right tools, you can easily load the servers.
  27.  
  28. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:00
  29. so you just dismantled your own argument
  30. nice
  31.  
  32. Zehra - Today at 21:01
  33. I heard one person had 32 players from a single house joining a server.
  34. (Thought it was default.)
  35. But still, 3 connections is a bit too much.
  36. 10 different IPs and the server remains unable to join for anyone.
  37.  
  38. Afrodude - Today at 21:02
  39. lol
  40. Coco - Today at 21:02
  41. are you implying there are people that do that
  42. so that its an issue
  43.  
  44. Zehra - Today at 21:03
  45. Coco, I'm not sure if anyone has done it, but it certainly is possible.
  46.  
  47. Coco - Today at 21:03
  48. oh
  49.  
  50. Afrodude - Today at 21:03
  51. LOL
  52.  
  53. Coco - Today at 21:03
  54. so its not that much of an issue
  55. more of an hypothesis
  56.  
  57. Zehra - Today at 21:03
  58. Maybe we'll see an outbreak of servers being unavailable.
  59.  
  60. Afrodude - Today at 21:04
  61. so you basically are assuming its possible you dont actually know
  62.  
  63. Zehra - Today at 21:04
  64. @Afrodude prevent the issue before someone abuses it.
  65.  
  66. Afrodude - Today at 21:04
  67. and from that have decided theres a security problem
  68. but
  69.  
  70. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:04
  71. some dude would have to run like 3 proxies on the same computer just to do this
  72.  
  73. Afrodude - Today at 21:04
  74. you dont know if there is an issue
  75.  
  76. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:04
  77. or 3 proxies and 4 computers
  78. that's way too much effort for a game like this
  79. that's just stupid lmao
  80.  
  81. Afrodude - Today at 21:04
  82. this is hilarious
  83.  
  84. Zehra - Today at 21:04
  85. Yeah, they would probably knock the servers offline instead of loading them.
  86.  
  87. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:05
  88. wrong
  89.  
  90. Afrodude - Today at 21:05
  91. he completely made up a problem and decided that servers have bad security
  92. omg
  93.  
  94. Zehra - Today at 21:05
  95. Well, it depends.
  96. It's possible.
  97.  
  98. Afrodude - Today at 21:05
  99. you assume
  100.  
  101. Zehra - Today at 21:06
  102. That is what counts...
  103. You decide if it is an issue or not.
  104.  
  105. Afrodude - Today at 21:06
  106. uh
  107. its not a problem if its not a problem
  108.  
  109. Zehra - Today at 21:06
  110. Here's your logic...
  111. Because someone hasn't done it = it is not an issue.
  112.  
  113. Afrodude - Today at 21:06
  114. oh this oughta be good
  115. right
  116. exactly
  117. a non existent problem is not a problem
  118.  
  119. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:08
  120. yes it's POSSIBLE for someone to run twelve billiondy proxies across 10 computers on their local network and fill a server
  121. but who is gonna do that
  122. who
  123.  
  124. <Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:08
  125. gee I'd hate to let this breach of security go on and potentially disappoint the 50 people that still play this
  126.  
  127. noom - Today at 21:08
  128. you could have come up with infinite number of problems like this
  129.  
  130. Afrodude - Today at 21:08
  131. there is no breach of security
  132. he made it up
  133.  
  134. Zehra - Today at 21:09
  135. Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.
  136.  
  137. Afrodude - Today at 21:09
  138. what
  139.  
  140. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:09
  141. lol
  142.  
  143. Zehra - Today at 21:09
  144. Gee, I wonder why this game is so buggy.
  145.  
  146. noom - Today at 21:09
  147. ?
  148. Afrodude - Today at 21:09
  149. WHAT
  150. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:09
  151. ??????????
  152. Afrodude - Today at 21:09
  153. LMFAO
  154. Zehra - Today at 1:09 PM
  155. Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.
  156. Zehra - Today at 1:09 PM
  157. Gee, I wonder why this game is so buggy.
  158. IM CRYING LAUGHING OMG
  159. noom - Today at 21:10
  160. screenshot it(edited)
  161. pin it
  162. enjoy it
  163. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:10
  164. ur so cool u can write scripts ahuhauhehuhue
  165. noom - Today at 21:10
  166. hackerman
  167. Afrodude - Today at 21:11
  168. bro i cant stop laughing someone help
  169. noom - Today at 21:11
  170. same
  171. <Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:11
  172. kid u better stfu before i call up my boys and we pastebin your ass into eternity
  173. noom - Today at 21:11
  174. Afrodude admits he doesn't believe something unless someone proves it.
  175. Afrodude - Today at 21:11
  176. your gay ass*
  177. or was it dumb ass
  178. cant remember
  179. Zehra - Today at 21:11
  180. Meh.
  181. Someone could easily break this game.
  182. Afrodude - Today at 21:12
  183. wow thank you for being such a complete idiot
  184. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:12
  185. define "break into"
  186. Afrodude - Today at 21:12
  187. made my day
  188. noom - Today at 21:12
  189. surely you can
  190. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:12
  191. ah my bad i saw an "into" where there was none
  192. in any case, joining with 32 clients won't break a server
  193. it's just retarded
  194. Zehra - Today at 21:13
  195. Yes, it just loads the server...
  196. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:13
  197. yep, and it wastes the time of the """attacker""" because people can just join other servers
  198. Zehra - Today at 21:13
  199. Who cares about breaking servers, if they are just loaded.
  200. Afrodude - Today at 21:13
  201. literally nobody would ever bother doing that
  202. Zehra - Today at 21:13
  203. Also means they have 'fake' player counts.
  204. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:14
  205. it's not fake player counts
  206. fake player counts are when the server host directly sends false information to the server list
  207. there are real players there, they're just empty shells
  208. Zehra - Today at 21:14
  209. Yes.
  210. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:14
  211. uhh
  212. Afrodude - Today at 21:15
  213. i still cant believe he implied i had anything to do with the game being "buggy"
  214. thats hilarious
  215. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:16
  216. >Someone could easily break this game.
  217. >Who cares about breaking servers, if they are just loaded.
  218. :thinking:
  219. Zehra - Today at 21:16
  220. Different ways of messing the game.
  221. Meh, nothing happens, unless something actually happens.
  222. Afrodude - Today at 21:17
  223. right
  224. exactly
  225. why do you say that as though its not true
  226. seems very obvious
  227. noom - Today at 21:18
  228. Everything can be broken or messed with, unless it's something serious there is no reason to waste time on it(edited)
  229. Spring - Today at 21:18
  230. Why does all of this lowkey seem like a threat?(edited)
  231. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:18
  232. it is a threat, he's writing a SCRIPT
  233. be very afraid
  234. Afrodude - Today at 21:19
  235. hes the only person thats ever even thought of doing that
  236. noom - Today at 21:19
  237. it's an attack at this stage
  238. LUL
  239. Zehra - Today at 21:19
  240. It depends on who uses it and how.
  241. Spring - Today at 21:20
  242. “Maybe we'll see an outbreak of servers being unavailable.”
  243. Afrodude - Today at 21:20
  244. the answer is nobody
  245. ever
  246. Spring - Today at 21:20
  247. This seems like a passive aggressive threat to me
  248. Afrodude - Today at 21:20
  249. thats your who and how right there
  250. Spring - Today at 21:20
  251. What’s your deal oatmeal
  252. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:20
  253. how else do you use this, other than filling servers
  254. there's literally no other way to use it
  255. you just fill servers
  256. Afrodude - Today at 21:20
  257. he also said hed write a script to do it and deleted the message
  258. Zehra - Today at 21:20
  259. I'll just work and record a video of a local test.
  260. Afrodude - Today at 21:20
  261. why
  262. noom - Today at 21:20
  263. why
  264. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:21
  265. you're going to record yourself filling a local server?
  266. Zehra - Today at 21:21
  267. On second thought, I won't even bother.
  268. 👏1
  269. Coco - Today at 21:21
  270. so you just proved their point
  271. Zehra - Today at 21:21
  272. (Game never going to get fixed.)
  273. Afrodude - Today at 21:21
  274. lmfao
  275. noom - Today at 21:21
  276. :clap:
  277. Coco - Today at 21:21
  278. not even someone who suggested it happened isn't going to do it
  279. Afrodude - Today at 21:21
  280. LOL
  281. noom - Today at 21:22
  282. problem solved
  283. Coco - Today at 21:22
  284. because its too much work for little to no benefit
  285. Afrodude - Today at 21:22
  286. "guys this is totally a problem someone will do this"
  287. "you know what even i cant be fucked to do this"
  288. unreal
  289. noom - Today at 21:22
  290. at least i had a good laugh
  291. Spring - Today at 21:23
  292. Well if we witness someone trying to connect many times to the same server we’ll know who it is
  293. Afrodude - Today at 21:24
  294. my day is so much better because of that holy shit
  295. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:26
  296. it's rude to make fun of the dialed
  297. *disabled
  298. Zehra - Today at 21:26
  299. Someone could write a better system.
  300. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:26
  301. >:(
  302. ok use my system
  303. Zehra - Today at 21:26
  304. Maybe we'll one day see a better server and client.
  305. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:27
  306. we already have both
  307. B)
  308. Zehra - Today at 21:27
  309. Actually never going to happen.
  310. 😡1
  311. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:27
  312. https://github.com/10se1ucgo/ace.py already done
  313. begone
  314. ape
  315. Zehra - Today at 21:28
  316. not completed.
  317. noom - Today at 21:28
  318. what do you consider as "completed"
  319. Zehra - Today at 21:28
  320. Same as many projects.
  321. noom - Today at 21:28
  322. ?
  323. Coco - Today at 21:29
  324. a game that has no non-existant problems
  325. Zehra - Today at 21:29
  326. :thinking:
  327. Let me know when you find it Coco.
  328. Coco - Today at 21:30
  329. no such thing
  330. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:31
  331. ain't no game that hasn't not got no non-existant non-problems
  332. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:31
  333. actually ace.py is pretty complete enough to play full games on
  334. maybe work to complete it instead of complaining about incomplete projects
  335. Zehra - Today at 21:31
  336. That's what afrodude needs to do.
  337. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:32
  338. ????????????
  339. Afrodude - Today at 21:32
  340. what
  341. Zehra - Today at 21:32
  342. Actually do something.
  343. Afrodude - Today at 21:32
  344. wait
  345. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:32
  346. .
  347. Afrodude - Today at 21:32
  348. wait
  349. WHAT
  350. noom - Today at 21:32
  351. wtf?
  352. Zehra - Today at 21:32
  353. Maybe if you could do something, we wouldn't be here.
  354. noom - Today at 21:32
  355. you're the one who started complaining about everything
  356. Afrodude - Today at 21:32
  357. LOL
  358. I CANT
  359. wow
  360. like
  361. noom - Today at 21:32
  362. is he trolling
  363. Zehra - Today at 21:32
  364. I am complaining about his excuses for not doing anything.(edited)
  365. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:33
  366. what excuses?????
  367. Afrodude - Today at 21:33
  368. ive been getting blamed for stuff i didnt do for years around here
  369. but this is next level
  370. Zehra - Today at 21:33
  371. Constantly switching the topic.
  372. Afrodude - Today at 21:33
  373. w h a t
  374. noom - Today at 21:33
  375. he didn't complain about everything like you did, so why should he be the one to do something ?? i'm confused(edited)
  376. <Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:34
  377. its cause he black obv
  378. Zehra - Today at 21:34
  379. LOL everyone here says something stupid..
  380. Only when I do it, others complain.... hmmm...
  381. noom - Today at 21:34
  382. especially you
  383. Afrodude - Today at 21:34
  384. why should i have to do anything lol
  385. im so lost
  386. Zehra - Today at 21:35
  387. Get a map and find where you are.
  388. :p
  389. Afrodude - Today at 21:35
  390. bruh
  391. Coco - Today at 21:35
  392. everyone will get shit on if they say something stupid
  393. you are no exception
  394. noom - Today at 21:36
  395. he is very smart
  396. Coco - Today at 21:36
  397. muffin has explained the facts behind it and presented why its not necessarily something to be worried about or that is ruining the entire game for players
  398. Techno - Today at 21:36
  399. I just read through all of that, should I be dying of laughter or dying of idiocy?
  400. Spring - Today at 21:36
  401. Yes
  402. noom - Today at 21:36
  403. both
  404. asianguy - Today at 21:36
  405. both
  406. Zehra - Today at 21:36
  407. I suggest something might be an issue and I get afrodude complaining with blah, blah.
  408. MuffinTastic - Today at 21:36
  409. all three things
  410. Spring - Today at 21:37
  411. Why are you laying the blame at afrodude’s feet of all people
  412. Techno - Today at 21:37
  413. this isn't an issue
  414. this is a hypothetical that you thought of
  415. Zehra - Today at 21:37
  416. Muffin explained things, rather than afro making dumb comments.
  417. So it was reasonable.
  418. Techno - Today at 21:37
  419. im sure everyone can think of a hypothetical, it doesn't mean someone is going to do it
  420. Zehra - Today at 21:37
  421. Could have left it at that.
  422. noom - Today at 21:37
  423. what did afro did to u that ur attacking specifically him
  424. Techno - Today at 21:37
  425. who in the right mind would use proxies to fill up the server with just themselves
  426. it's a waste of time and there's no point to it
  427. Afrodude - Today at 21:37
  428. >complaining
  429. Zehra - Today at 21:38
  430. Afro does what he always does.
  431. Afrodude - Today at 21:38
  432. how is me calling you an idiot complaining
  433. WHAT
  434. Techno - Today at 21:38
  435. im commenting, or so you'd like to call it "complaining" on this stupid "issue" as well(edited)
  436. bash me also
  437. Afrodude - Today at 21:38
  438. Zehra - Today at 1:38 PM
  439. Afro does what he always does.
  440. i love it
  441. sigged
  442. Coco - Today at 21:39
  443. zehra does what he always does too, complain about idiotic things
  444. <Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:40
  445. me too
  446. Zehra - Today at 21:40
  447. Lets just all leave it at that.
  448. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:40
  449. dude the servers can easily be overloaded!!
  450. Coco - Today at 21:40
  451. you and afro have good synergy
  452. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:40
  453. o-oh there's an option in server files to limit connections by IP
  454. oh
  455. noom - Today at 21:40
  456. he has a script
  457. Afrodude - Today at 21:40
  458. im astounded
  459. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:41
  460. The potential for servers to be downed may exist but has never caused an issue, thus noone paid attention to it
  461. Techno - Today at 21:41
  462. let's just drop this subject, no need to argue on this
  463. Zehra - Today at 21:41
  464. This is getting out of hand, so let us just leave it at that.
  465. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:41
  466. this may seem "risky" but it really isn't cause there's not much at stake here that can't be fixed
  467. Afrodude - Today at 21:41
  468. https://puu.sh/zaRBD/d9ea014eb3.png
  469. thanks for the content homie
  470. Coco - Today at 21:42
  471. discord memes are the best memes
  472. flush out irc
  473. Zehra - Today at 21:42
  474. Thanks for the explaination @argo@on-the-dole
  475. Afrodude - Today at 21:42
  476. what
  477. i literallly said
  478. the same shit
  479. Zehra - Today at 21:42
  480. I'll next time make sure to check an issue is actually an issue before posting.
  481. noom - Today at 21:42
  482. that's what we said
  483. the first time
  484. Afrodude - Today at 21:42
  485. what
  486. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:42
  487. That is what they said
  488. noom - Today at 21:42
  489. wtf?
  490. argo@on-the-dole - Today at 21:42
  491. I did read back
  492. Afrodude - Today at 21:42
  493. hes trolling
  494. ok
  495. noom - Today at 21:43
  496. enough
  497. Zehra - Today at 21:43
  498. Agreed.(edited)
  499. Coco - Today at 21:45
  500. :pizza:
  501. 🌭2
  502. 🥑1
  503. Techno - Today at 21:47
  504. Would anyone like to play aos with me? :heart:
  505. Coco - Today at 21:47
  506. why would anyone play that buggy game
  507. Techno - Today at 21:48
  508. :/
  509. noom - Today at 21:48
  510. me
  511. Techno - Today at 21:48
  512. coco pls don't lol
  513. Afrodude - Today at 21:48
  514. yeah dude im not playing that shit too many security issues
  515. asianguy - Today at 21:48
  516. agreed
  517. Techno - Today at 21:48
  518. afro
  519. Afrodude - Today at 21:48
  520. probably my fault
  521. Coco - Today at 21:48
  522. wtf afro why didn't u fix them
  523. its ur duty
  524. Techno - Today at 21:48
  525. OH MY GOD
  526. asianguy - Today at 21:48
  527. he has to prove it first man
  528. then he believes it
  529. Techno - Today at 21:48
  530. guys stop
  531. someone play with me
  532. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:49
  533. ironic autism is still autism
  534. Afrodude - Today at 21:49
  535. nah bro someones gonna fill up all the servers
  536. asianguy - Today at 21:49
  537. sometimes i wonder why this game is so buggy
  538. Afrodude - Today at 21:49
  539. we cant play with this very real and comprehensive issue
  540. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:49
  541. it's because I made it
  542. Techno - Today at 21:49
  543. can you guys stop
  544. we dropped this
  545. Coco - Today at 21:50
  546. once a meme has been born, it has to complete its life cycle
  547. asianguy - Today at 21:50
  548. yup
  549. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
  550. you guys are killing it faster than it was born
  551. Afrodude - Today at 21:50
  552. you know me techno
  553. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
  554. stale meme
  555. asianguy - Today at 21:50
  556. it was born a long time ago
  557. Afrodude - Today at 21:50
  558. as they say afro does what he always does
  559. Techno - Today at 21:50
  560. I do know you
  561. :frowning:
  562. 10se1ucgo - Today at 21:50
  563. tragic
  564. Zehra - Today at 21:53
  565. Shocking new report - All players quit AoS in rage of massive security breaches...
  566. <Sw>Sw~Fleischy@Sw - Today at 21:53
  567. thank god
  568. Zehra - Today at 21:53
  569. Players are advised to delete the email accounts they registered with and to change ISPs.
  570. Spring - Today at 21:53
  571. If you are this much of a threat perhaps we should just ban you
  572. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  573. asianguy - Today at 21:54
  574. oof
  575. Zehra - Today at 21:54
  576. :p
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