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  1. @Kuya Red Hoping this response reaches you, I tried posting it twice already but it's fallen into the spam filter both times.
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  3. As for your responses:
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  5. > _The only reason people believe the earth rotates is because of their assumption that the sun is fixed and only moves across the sky because the earth rotates._
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  7. Wrong. There is a reason the geocentric models were abolished hundreds of years ago in favor of the heliocentric one.
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  9. > _if there is wind then the air IS NOT MOVING WITH THE EARTH!!_
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  11. Winds can't happen relative to the Earth's atmosphere's rotation, why again? Oh right, you provide no reason, just incredulity.
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  13. Does a moving vehicle like a ship, bus or train prohibit airflow from a venting fan? No, of course not. So why would the Earth and it's uniformly rotating atmosphere prohibit the existence of wind? That just stupid.
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  15. > _The direction of the wind aloft in the tropics north of the equator is east to west. But the wind aloft south of the equator is generally west to east._
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  17. Good job moron, you just gave an example of the coriolis effect, which proves rotation rather than debunking it.
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  19. > _But the further the flight goes north the motion of the earth due to spin would be decreasing until near the pole the earth would be rotating less than 10 mph. Where would the momentum of the eastward movement of the jet go?_
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  21. I adressed this in my previous comment. The momentum would gradually dissipate due to friction. Or do you think the plane would somehow be able to withstand sideways winds (due to difference of atmopshere rotation) of many hundreds of miles per hour and go completely unfazed by it?
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  23. > _I just proved that all wind is proof that the air does NOT travel with the earth._
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  25. Please learn the difference between asserting and proving.
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  27. > _Not every flight scheduled for that non stop is a non stop. Sometime they must fly through northern Africa for a fuel stop. Why?_
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  29. Non stop flights are non stop. I would like you to quote me a single instance in which that specific non stop flight had to make an unexpected fuel stop, thus covering a much greater distance over a much longer travel time, leaving hundreds of passengers dissatisfied.
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  31. There are other flights, which are clearly not labeled as "non stop" that do indeed take a detour. Those are called connecting flights, they are more practical and make more money because not everyone always travels to the same location. Connecting flights allow passengers to take the first half of the flight to a bigger airport from which they then continue to another destination, as well as passengers from other flights to board this one at this stop and continue to their destination.
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  33. > _So it would be no problem for a pilot to navigate so as to take advantage of a 420 mph tail wind. Making a 12,000 mile trip in just 12 20 mins. hours._
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  35. What a retarded statement. Didn't you claim to have been an air traffic controller? I would like you to show me a commercial airplane that can withstand the conditions of moving through the air (with or without wind) at 1,000+ miles per hour. Fuck, I wouldn't want to be on that flight.
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  37. > _But if you want to see if the earth is a globe why not just test if you can see a laser 6 feet above the water from 25 miles away_
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  39. A beam of light shun vertically at 6 feet above the water is almost guaranteed to be affected by atmospheric refraction, whatever the result.
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  41. > _It is the polar coordinate system which is okay on a flat earth since it is like a pizza._
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  43. Nope. Lines of longitude grow smaller south of the equator and converge on the north pole. This is in direct contradiction with your flat pizza earth, where they just keep on diverging over ridiculous distances.
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  45. > _And how on earth would pilot adjust for curvature? Do they have to point their plane downward to follow the convex surface?_
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  47. You tell me, you're the one making the claim that they have to adjust.
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  49. In reality, adjusting is NOT NECESSARY. The Earth curves 8 inches over one mile. The angle of a plane's nose would have to dive by only 1 degree over 70 miles. Meanwhile, an airplane's altitude CONSTANTLY fluctuates by several feet every few minutes. Do you really think the tiny Earth curvature adjustments AREN'T going to be lost in those much larger fluctuations?
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  51. > _If the earth were spinning in order to make the sun pass once every 24 hours then at the equator it would spin at 1037 mph. But at 1 mile from the pole it would be moving 3.14 miles in 24 hours or 691 feet per hour._
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  53. See above. You're basically describing the coriolis effect. The momentum would gradually dissipate due to friction. Your argument would only work if there was no atmosphere at all.
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  55. > _So how can a plane that can only fly at 520mph (B777) have a ground speed of 700mph?_
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  57. You're kidding, right? ... RELATIVE MOTION, dude. Do you think the plane actually has to fly fast to match the ground speed of Earth?
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