AndreIdag 13:12
Hey
Just a heads up, I'll be leaving after Mondays raid
I will be giving my all in the raid and will make sure I do all I can to prepare for it

VivicraftIdag 13:13
thank u for that :heart:
which guild are u going for ?
i know someone else who is going to Zero Sum
i am wondering if its the same guild you are going to as well :D?

AndreIdag 13:16
Yh I'm going to Zero Sum as well

VivicraftIdag 13:16
they are the same progress as us now
and they lost 2 main healers
and the 3rd is leaving tonight
Origin is going to pass Zero sum in progress 100%
makes no sense that u guys are going there tbh
is swep going as well ?

AndreIdag 13:19
To be honest I have no idea
I didn't talk with him about it
Me and Xenkai talked about it though

VivicraftIdag 13:20
he talked u into joining Zero sum?

AndreIdag 13:20
Otherway around tbh

VivicraftIdag 13:21
zero sum wont go any where man, its a guild built a scam
i am really sad to see you go
but it is what it is

AndreIdag 13:22
I'll give it a shot, want to make my connections wider honestly
I'm telling you so there is no bad blood between us
If everything goes to shit maybe you'll give me another spot if aviable

VivicraftIdag 13:22
sounds good
i am guessing they contacted you ?
or did u go and apply

AndreIdag 13:25
I applied myself, I had higher hopes on Origin and these guys seems more organized and well established as a team

VivicraftIdag 13:26
its not true, i had the same exact players with me in BOD
when i was leading them
https://gyazo.com/883ae73992bfaae458254fd7a408185e
Gyazo
Gyazo

this is what we got
world 311
now they are not doing shit
i have raided in the top 30 guilds for 8 years man
i know what i am doing

AndreIdag 13:27
yea I am well aware
I mean listen, I know you get shit done
You would not be where you are if you didnt
Though origins current team is uh
Unconsistent

VivicraftIdag 13:28
we are missing like 5 good people max to have an insane team

AndreIdag 13:28
And inviting people that are doing sub 30k on ashvane like

VivicraftIdag 13:29
i am getting new people next reset
some blasters are about to join the reset after as well
it will only become way better
and 4 weeks from now i am getting people from Method to push with us the final bosses once we kill 6/8 M
i am good friends with Scripe, the method raid leader
idk if u watch his stream
u will hear my name a lot :smile:

AndreIdag 13:31
I don't know mate. I'll join Zero Sum for a trial. If they really get nowhere I only fucked myself

VivicraftIdag 13:31
but u will slow us down, because u r a decent player and i really fucken like u :stuck_out_tongue:
it will be bad for u and bad for Origin as well
man those people on Zero Sum are bleeding players every day
u should check the logs
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/guild/eu/silvermoon/zero%20sum
check ur self
u will find a new team every day

AndreIdag 13:33
Yea I have done my research

VivicraftIdag 13:33
NOT every week, every day
there is really nothing i can do to make you change your mind here :joy: ?

AndreIdag 13:34
Haha I'm like a bull dude
Once I decide on something I see it through
So no
Though as I said, monday raid I'll give all to help us bring down Asvhane
After that I hope as I stated earlier there is no bad blood

VivicraftIdag 13:37
alright, i hope it all works out
and if you ever need any thing just DM me :wink:

AndreIdag 13:37
Yea I hope so too. Thanks mate, if you're short on a booster you can msg
If I got time I'll come

VivicraftIdag 13:37
sounds good
i feel like i must show u how the guild master of Zero Sum behaves
so u dont say i didnt warn u
but in the same time u seem to have ur mind set so i dont want to spam ur chat

AndreIdag 13:41
I mean the more informed I am the better

VivicraftIdag 13:41
alright let me see
this was 2 days go to a player that left the team after they flamed him on coms, for talking damage from the shit on the floor during the raid night on Orgoza even tho he wasnt even on top 5 damage taken from it
https://gyazo.com/5b1b276e9afd3d9a5853aae28a9e512a
Gyazo
Gyazo

and after he left
https://gyazo.com/21e272c4dd15f8af650d921b30fa32b1
Gyazo
Gyazo


AndreIdag 13:44
That's their hpala right?

VivicraftIdag 13:44
ya one of them, he left 2 days ago
and this is someone who knows Tapps when he used to be in Pieces before they kick him
https://gyazo.com/d8c2b0c1a42c099a4120141d2f5f1eaa
Gyazo
Gyazo


AndreIdag 13:46
Hmm

VivicraftIdag 13:47
i also wish if i didnt delete from Origin discord the big post he made to break my guild
baiscly after 2 nights only on Ashvane when we got her to pretty dam low, he made a post, that the guild isnt what he expect it to be and the guild is a meme, he trashed me as hard as he could and he left to make his own guild and all it took for him to get the other tank with him
people saw 2 tanks went there and we are left with no tanks and he ended up with 10 people leaving over 1 night
and thats littarly after 2 nights on Ashvane, i can show u the logs

AndreIdag 13:49
No need, I am aware of that
We were in the process of transfering
Idk if you remember, but mid internal discussion they all left

VivicraftIdag 13:49
there was no discussion

AndreIdag 13:49
I mean between me swep and sub

VivicraftIdag 13:49
every thing went down behind my back
ooh ok
like do u imagine before we even start progress he had it all planned
he was talking to people about it
and as soon as we got a boss that stopped us for 2 nights he just did it
we where realm 2nd on mythic
and realm 1st on HC
the guild was pretty good with me leading it

AndreIdag 13:52
I mean really, I can't have any opinions on this matter
There's always two sides
And I really don't doubt your leading
Kinda tracked ur prog back to legion
The current team is what "forced" me into action though
Thanks for sharing all the pics though, really appriciate it

VivicraftIdag 13:53
did u track my personal prog
or origin

AndreIdag 13:54
Both really
Asked around

VivicraftIdag 13:54
how did u see my personal one tho, i was raiding on 3 accounts :joy:
u can only see what i did from my stream mainly i guess
i cleared the 1st 2 raid tiers world top 20ish
if that what u managed to track then its correct

AndreIdag 13:55
Yy I mean take it as a compliment
A bad leader aint killing shit you know

VivicraftIdag 13:59
well try to use the time until Monday to look around a bit, if you where going littarly any where else i wont be upset or sad, but it truly saddens me to see a bad person like Tapps getting a decent player like you dude

AndreIdag 14:01
I'm always looking for ways to develop my self, any chance for development I get I'll take it

VivicraftIdag 14:03
i know 90% you wont change your mind, but i did my best there and i did show you how these people are
If you change your mind by some miracle and decided to help me getting this guild to the top 100, i wont forget it my dude :heart:

AndreIdag 14:04
Yh I appriciate the information you shared man