Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:18 PM
@City Hunter Debate means a discourse allowing both sides to explain their view. If you don't want to grant me that, then it means you want to ridicule someone, without giving them an option to defend themself.
City HunterYesterday at 11:19 PM
debate: a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:19 PM
So you disagree with what I said?
City HunterYesterday at 11:20 PM
i don't know where you got ridicule from any definition of debate
so let's start with that
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:20 PM
you ridiculed me in general
City HunterYesterday at 11:20 PM
with what?
why do you need to debate to defend yourself?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:21 PM
because in this way i can prove you do not have credibility
City HunterYesterday at 11:21 PM
in order to have a debate, you need a particular topic... i'm not seeing what topic you want to debate
in a debate, i don't have credibility, and neither do you
you use facts and sources to back up any claims you make
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:22 PM
I have facts
City HunterYesterday at 11:22 PM
you didn't site any sources, i didn't either
not sure when the debate started
nor when i prevented you from debating
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:22 PM
if you would allow me to give them , I would
City HunterYesterday at 11:22 PM
we need a topic first
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:23 PM
the topic is what happened in general
City HunterYesterday at 11:23 PM
a lot of things happened
are you talking about someone asking for help in general?
or the patience is a virtue thing?
or telling bear that he could go die?
or me wondering how someone can say patience is a virtue while saying bear can go die?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:23 PM
yes I do, I want to explain all of that
City HunterYesterday at 11:24 PM
the only thing i'm going to ask, before you explain all of that, is why do you feel like you need to defend yourself?
I'm a random stranger on the internet
you don't even know if i'm taking this seriously
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:24 PM
because you ridiculed me in front of my friends
City HunterYesterday at 11:24 PM
which part ridiculed you
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:25 PM
you omitted the fact that I was insulted by bear
City HunterYesterday at 11:25 PM
with what?
when he said patience is trash?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:26 PM
yeah
City HunterYesterday at 11:26 PM
and who are your friends?
how is that an insult to you?
you stated an opinion
he stated his
as a spectator, i have no idea how he insulted you
if I said trump is great and you said trump sucks, did you insult me?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:26 PM
listen I will concede on me talking about virtues
and then telling people to die
sure I do not want to keep that attitude
after someone attacks me
City HunterYesterday at 11:28 PM
i still don't see how that's an attack
i see it as a difference in opinions
it's not like he said: you're stupid for valuing patience
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:28 PM
Is saying "Patience is trash" in response to my words not incendiary?
At first I wanted to be nice person
City HunterYesterday at 11:30 PM
look, if you take it offensively, who am I to say you shouldn't... i don't know why you feel so desperate to defend yourself...
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:30 PM
that's why I brought up the saying "patience is a virtue"
City HunterYesterday at 11:30 PM
why did you even say that in the first place
i was actually curious about that
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:30 PM
but Bear attacked me and after that I didn't want to be nice anymore
City HunterYesterday at 11:30 PM
i still don't see how bear attacked you
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:31 PM
Is saying "Patience is trash" in response to my words not incendiary
yes or no
City HunterYesterday at 11:31 PM
if I said i like to golf and you said golf is boring, is that incendiary?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:31 PM
it's more mild
City HunterYesterday at 11:31 PM
ok, if you said golf is trash, is that incendiary?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:31 PM
than what happened in general
yes
it is
City HunterYesterday at 11:32 PM
or if you said golf isn't a sport?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:32 PM
yes
City HunterYesterday at 11:32 PM
how?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:32 PM
because a lot of people would disagree with that
City HunterYesterday at 11:32 PM
it might spark an argument, or if it's slightly more sophisticated and controlled, a debate
but it's not an insult to me
if on the other hand you had said golfers are trash
that's an insult
take this with a grain of salt, but I don't see why you should value some random's opinion of yourself, like mine, or bear
you should work on your own self-confidence and self-esteem
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:34 PM
saying golf isn't a sport
is not accepting reality and disregarding a lot of efforts
City HunterYesterday at 11:35 PM
there are people out there with even worse personalities and behaviors than bear, you can't expect everyone to respect you
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:35 PM
but you attacked me because of that
City HunterYesterday at 11:35 PM
honestly, if you told me golf isn't a sport
i'd think you were uneducated
not that you were attacking me
if I felt the need to educate you on why golf is a sport, I would do so
and I just said I wonder how someone can talk about a virtue after wishing someone to die
if you really valued patience, you should have had the patience to hold it in you to stop yourself from saying that
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:36 PM
I already explained that
City HunterYesterday at 11:37 PM
that's the only reason why i said that... because it seemed quite ironical
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:37 PM
but I will say it again if I need to
City HunterYesterday at 11:38 PM
in general, if you need to justify yourself, you're probably somewhat in the wrong...
otherwise, other people would think you did the right thing without you having to explain it to them
i'm not saying your a bad person, or that you actually wanted bear to die
honestly, i don't care about that
this is a discord for a hentai game... what do you expect from people?
did you jsut read what pan and david were saying?
stupid topics come up left and right, why take everything so seriously?
do you think pan's actually going to start throwing pails at people?
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:40 PM
Can you give me time to respond without cutting me off please
I admit I cannot type as fast
City HunterYesterday at 11:41 PM
not sure when i cut you off, this is a chatting messenger, just leave messages, I will respond to them as they come
Original Vampire KlausTekkingYesterday at 11:41 PM
I would like to adress all of your sentences
City HunterYesterday at 11:41 PM
it's not like I know when you have something to say... it says you're typing... so am i just supposed to wait until you type everything you have to say?
at that rate, I might get a full dissertation