SW: TFA opinions

The good
>Every significant character and the actors that play them
>Han Solo has a significant amount of screen time, way more than I expected
>That scene aboard Hand and Chewie's transport vessel was cool slice of life/wild west in space-esque scene that had

the right amount of world-building and action, wish there was more like it.
>The first-act stuff with Rey on Jakku was really cool too, it also had a lot of world building/atmosphere and breathing

room to get used to the characters and setting, also wish there was more of this.
>Really really good cinematography and visuals
>Han's death was handled really well
>Kylo Ren was actually a well thought out villain with a twist
>We get to see Coruscant again
>Really good emotional scenes and sequences
>references old movies without overdoing it


The bad
>Soundtrack offered nothing new
>Spaceship battles were uninteresting, or at least nowhere near as interesting or memorable as the Deathstar trench

run in ANH
>Lightsaber fight in the woods and final Lightsaber fight was uninteresting and power levels made no sense
>Po and Finn first meet and instantly become best friends - a little too 'Disney' if you ask me
>The millenium falcon just happens to be where Rey just happens to work near where Po just happens to know a guy

who has a map to Luke Skywalker
>not enough 'cool' alien designs (Gungans, whatever Sebulba was), but rather leans towards more 'grotesque'. Maz

was a pretty cool character though
>Captain Phasma
>Snoke - looks like some lame AF zombie


kv

This will be non-chronologically ordered complaint log:

The movie was full of needless exposition. Constantly trying to reiterate specifically one big plot point that could have

been taken care of with one powerful moment of realization, but they squandered it. Which is strange, because when

they went on to reveal a certain name they did it much more competently.

They felt the need to give all the background characters first and last names when they came into frame it seemed.

Just let them be characters; let kids find out their names on the action figure packaging like the old days.

Rey had cringe-inducing 'girl power' scenes and lines, just as I kind of feared she might. Han says a line to her that

kind of circumvents this, but just barely. I think people these days would call that 'mansplaining' and I can't wait to see a

complaint article about that one line. Leia was a bad ass female character created from the will of the writers, not from

the need to pander to people don't and never will like Star Wars. That's why she works.

The implementation of R2D2 was so lazily written, why did Disney let them get away with it? He just decides to power

up again at the right moment for plot convenience? Fuck you.

I'm bordering on whether or not Kylo's face reveal was a mistake or not. On one hand, you kind of want that moment of

'OH! That's what that character looks like." Which doesn't happen. But on the other hand, this movie decides to play

with the character and your expectations. But considering the rest of the writing, I doubt this was intentional.

The humans in this movie treat the droids like sentient humans with feelings. In the OT, droids were appliances that

characters would sarcastically respond to. They changed that in The Phantom Menace when Amidala decided to thank

R2D2 for doing what he was built for, but that's the prequels. There's no excuse here. It was strange.

There's an edit in the movie in which after Rey leaves a big area where Ren was, she arrives in the forest, and she

hears his saber light up and sees him stand beyond where she is. How the fuck did he get out there so fast? Don't give

me any bullshit Force explanations.

Leia, in response to the death of Han Solo, decides to seek comfort from this new girl Rey, and not Han Solo's giant

hairy boyfriend Chewbacca. What the hell is going on? Why did Han Solo have to die in such a mediocre movie? They

should have just left him out of the picture if this is the best they could do.

Andy Serkis, performance capture actor, claimed that Snoke couldn't have been pulled off with practical effects. You

see the movie and it turns out it's complete horseshit. He was just a bald, pale guy with a few scars. That's another

thing, all of the puppets and costumes were coated in so much CGI, what was even the point? Pacific Rim had this

problem too.

Maz Kanata's voice fucking sucked. She's this weird ass, orange alien, and she sounds slightly Jamaican? Are you

kidding me? And then she gave this stupid line after they ask where she found Anakin and Luke's blue saber, saying

'that's a story for another time.' She might as well have said 'wait for episode 8, you fucking nerds.'

The last shot of Luke Skywalker is bittersweet. Mark Hamill looks fantastic, but the shot has a weird helicopter panning

motion in which Rey holds out Luke's original blue saber, presenting it to him. Without music, it would be crazy

awkward.

Speaking of music, this is John William's most generic scoring to any film. I'm not sure if it's John William's fault, or the

editors' faults. The soundtrack was released on YouTube, and it sounds fine. Sounds a bit like a Studio Ghibli

soundtrack rather than Star Wars, but sounds fine. What happened to make the music so damn forgetful?

The worst part is the third Death Star. Two times they create a Death Star, and it's blown up. Who the fuck thought a

third time was a good idea? And the cast make note that it's a stupid idea, but there's never a good reason given for it.

Out of all the fuck ups, repeating the ending of A New Hope was the absolute worst. Holy shit.

Strangely, the one thing I like story-wise was Kylo Ren, his real name revealed to be "Ben Solo". He's whiny young-

adult prequel Anakin done right. A lot of people seem to hate the look of Adam Driver, but I thought he worked. He

keeps his helmet in a tray full of what I assume is his grandfather's ashes when not wearing it, which I thought was bad

ass. He talks to the severed head, or mask, of Darth Vader. He's fucking nuts. It's just a shame he's within this

mediocre frame of a movie.

The best scene ironically involves the biggerer, betterer Death Star. The new Death Star sucks up entire suns to

charge its weapon. In the confrontation between Ben and his father Han, the light is being sucked from the sun, and it

mirrors Ben's psyche. As soon as the light leaves Ben completely in shadow, he kills his father like a cold monster. It

was devestating. Chewie's reaction was heart breaking. He prematurely set off the charges he and Han left earlier,

perhaps in a suicidal bit and started to rage at surrounding Stormtroopers with his bowblaster or whatever it's called.

The whole time giving tear jerking wookie cry. Again, the shame is that it's framed in such mediocre film.

The movie is exciting to watch, compared to the prequels, but once you start thinking about it, the excitement can't

make up for the fuck ups in the story like the original movies' can.

I hope they step their game up for VIII, this is pathetic.?


armond white

>Everyone knows the Star Wars series peaked with that confrontation in The Empire Strikes Back (1980) between

Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) and the villain, Darth Vader (played on screen by David Prowse, but voiced by James

Earl Jones).

>The “Luke, I am your father” revelation resonated because it expressed how George Lucas, like his movie-brat peers

(Coppola, Bogdanovich, Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma) struggled with Sixties generational ambivalence. A father–son

antagonism resounds through all their films as a reflection of Vietnam-era student protests and the privilege of those

draft-dodging filmmaker progeny. Even Lucas, in his escapist outer-space mode, iterated the era’s unease, culminating

in Luke’s fear and symbolic castration.

>It’s seldom realized that the movie brats’ films are essentially conservative, politically speaking. Yet, in the new

millennium, filmgoers’ superficial political awareness makes them nostalgic for Star Wars to maintain the gullibility of

their youth. Longing for innocence is all that the insipidness of the latest sequel, The Force Awakens, signifies. When

director J. J. Abrams re-stages that primal moment, he does it for brand recognition, but so unimaginatively that it feels

hackneyed. Even though it’s meant to be painful for rabid Star Wars fanatics, it lacks mythological significance. Star

Wars fans are not required to think metaphorically, so any Oedipal meaning is lost (although there is something of

millennial ingratitude in the new filial confrontation), just as the original scene’s impact was ignored in subsequent

sequels.


How the fuck did they "destroy the republic"? Is the republic those 4 planets? Why does this smell like shitty writing?
What planets were those they destroyed? Coruscant?
How did the energy beam traveled so fast to destroy those planets? The light of the sun takes 8 minutes to reach earth.

Was that planetary system the size of the distance of earth from mars? Does the beam travels faster than light?
How could the character see the planets being destroyed in broad daylight? And at naked eyes? How can they see the

planets so clearly if they are in a different solar system?
How can they compress inside a small planet's core without turning it into a black hole.
This part of the movie made me cringe. I know SW is space fantasy, but this screams like "I don't give a fuck about all,

I just want a dramatic scene." - J.J. Hackams


>a coward
>given a name by a white man
>full of himself/boastful with small achievements
>can't fly
>not a great fighter
>not a force user
>not a great Storm trooper
>not good at sanitation
>drinks out of the same water trough as a pig beast
>puppy dogging Rey
>gets the lightsaber taken away from him
>gets hacked and sliced
>put into a coma

Disappointing final light saber fight scene.
>Some girl living in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
>learned how to out-pilot professional soldier pilots who've trained since childhood, in a larger, older, beat up ship she'd

never even touched before with some VR training sims
>Can fix said ship better than Han fucking solo, who has been working on that specific ship for like 30 fucking years.

can fix or hack anything, for all reasons, just because she used to scrap junk on her planet
>is RIDICULOUSLY force gifted. more so than luke or FUCKING ANAKIN, who is literally basically force incarnate.

goes from just learning the force is real, to using jedi mind tricks and telekinesis in like a day
>outfights a trained lightsaber combatant trained personally by luke and a sith lord. oh, but not at first. she just hears

the word "force", which somehow lets her close her eyes and just become better for no reason.
>the entire plot revolves around her for no reason. Leia runs to hug her when she got back, as if they were such good

friends. despite NOT EVEN SPEAKING TO HER ONCE before this. TOTALLY IGNORES CHEWBACCA, WHO IS AN

OLD FRIEND, AND HAN'S BEST FRIEND.
And don't any of you motherfuckers try to say luke was the same. luke fucked up CONSTANTLY. he couldn't even

forcegrab his lightsaber till the second movie, and was constantly being saved by everyone around him.
If not a mary sue, she's still a poorly written, overpowered walking plot device that is totally devoid of any arc or

suspense. she just wins and succeeds.


This movie really lacked a proper villain.
This faggot was introcuced in a great way. stopping the blaster and sensing that Finn is a traitor made him really

powerful and awesome.
With each minute he became weaker. When he had to try hard to get the location of the map out of Poe's mind it was

already questionable but okay, he did it.
But when he took of his mask and then lost the force duel with Rey... holy shit that was bad.
You can't just introduce your villain as a powerful next generation sith or something and reduce him to an idiot that

assembled his own lightsaber.
Also Rey was far too powerful for having just discovered the force.
And as a result of the abscence of any proper jedi/sith who knew their shit, the battle between them was just boring and

awkward.

>How did she manage to pilot the Falcon with ease even though she's never piloted before?
I think the point of her wearing the Rebel helmet was to show she has an interest in flying. Plus, a huge helping of the

force. It seems that lets you do a lot of flying shit. As dumb as it was it's not much different from baby Anikin flying in a

battle or Luke blowin up the Death Star
>How did she use the Force so well when she didn't know what it was 20 minutes earlier?
She heard the stories and knew about it, she just didn't know she could actually do it.
Also, no proof, but I think the mind reading works twoways. Its just most people, like Poe, can only resist at best.

Because she did have the force she was able to push back so she may have gotten a tiny accidental crash course

reading Kylos mind.
>How did she manage to smoke so many Storm troopers when she didn't know how to shoot a blaster?
Meh, Force plus generic action movie crap. Not good, but not really horrible.
>How did she know how to understand BB-8 and Chewbacca so easily?
I don't think there is any logic behind Star Wars languages.
>Why did everyone immediately get a boner for her after knowing her for all of a few minutes?
Everyone got a boner for Leia too. Its called men think with their dicks.


>Why is she so good with technology?!?!
First part of the movie clearly establishes her as a tech scavenger. She probably has quite a bit of pracitcal knowledge.

>how could she climb that wall like a pro?!
First time we see her she's clearly shown as being quite agile and a good scaler

>b-but she beat muh Kylo Ren
Who was seriously injured before their fight by Chewbacca, and again by Finn. He was nowhere near his maximum

ability.

How to improve SW: TFA
>During Poe and Finn's escape they just leave without an extended sequence of them getting free of a bungie cord
>Poe stays dead (he's a fun character but it just works better narratively)
>They escape the freighter by narrowly avoiding the originally introduced pirates and not generic monsters
>Phasma is the trooper with the shock baton and dies honorably
>R2-D2 is alongside C-3P0 as always instead of being a plot device
>How the First Order, Resistance, and Republic works is better explained
>Finn disables the shields himself and while doing so finds the rest of the map in the computer files
>Finn is killed by Kylo
>Instead of Rey almost winning before being separated from Kylo by a earthquake it's the other way around
>Movie ends on Leia and Rey hugging