151 2020 route thoughts/improvements

No encounter forest extended?
Should be doable, but I can't bot it.

Talk to sign in t-fly?
Still works, is it slower or did they forget about it?
Slower.

Running from first missingno. and using a backup manip?
IIRC actually slightly slower on average, but I like the idea of an occasional 15-20s timesave.
Causes money issues, but seems fixable since antidote quantity is irrelevant.

In Tauros LG, can skip final toss of tm27, then go L S_B U U U for Chansey.
Does this have same IGT?
This gives a cascadebadge, can we use this?
Works the same way as the current stack, but may only save time if we can find a better helix fossil

Victory road manips should end as high as possible, since koffing moltres jack is the shortest path.
Also, ending the manip on blockxcoord = 1 saves 3 scrolls, since we would swap a masterball down
Also removes the j lag, makes double input easier

New movement (needs IGT tsting)
machop: D D D U U U S_B R R R R R R R S_B L L/D (down for mball, left for less movement)
zubat: D D D U U U_A R R R S_B R (A press on machamp tile)
geodude: D D D D U U U_A R R R R R R R S_B L U
onix: R R R_A D D U S_B U R R R

These manips do feel a bit more difficult, can probably achieve the same goals with easier movement.

Can jack stood above moltres, down 1, left a lot, right

Route 11 manips can be modified to stay closer to the LGs.
Be careful of the npc though.
Drowzee: UURLL (or maybe just UUURL if igt breaks)
Sandshrew: can't get current manip to work
This drowzee defo has worse igt, only marginal benefits.


Other tiles for route 21 LGs?
Can get tentacool encounter on wrong tile, then move during LG (Does increased encounter rate beat potentially slower LG?)
Charmander LG can be done 4 tiles left, toss 6 fire stones during first toss.
Pigeotto manip works RLL, I assume essentially the same IGT profile
A version of Tenta LG that breaks blockcoord (like old route) would mean only the column matters for char LG, speeding up getting the encounter.

Doduo manip can be done starting from tile above, others?
Yes, since swapping the unnamed item into xcoord fixes block xcoord, so the manips work either way.

Can swap revive x93 into TID during first scroll of Ivysaur LG, not sure if faster
Could also just swap it for rival name
(Would then use WA4 during Weedle LG)
Even better, can swap it during tenta LG (Adds extra text, but saves a decent amount of scrolling i think)
Seems doable during Seafoam menu also.
I don't actually remember why TID1 sometimes transmutes into masterballs though, so I'm not not sure if I just got lucky during my test run.

May be worth swapping moon stones and HoF masterballs, allows you to use 4 on moon stone evos, should save some scrolls

Helix fossil ideas:
Need at least 2, not 0 or 1
Can get from xcoord in celadon, but has bad quantity, and surprisingly isn't a good time to swap it out
Getting it from connections at some other time doesn't really achieve anything