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Putative Transgender Mania

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  1. 1:00:04 AMNeemChadhaKarelaI'll let someone more learned & more articulate explain it to you - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ - Title : Transgender Mania is Sign of Cultural Collapse
  2. 1:00:40 AMNeemChadhaKarelaAnd for everyone else's reference - Trans woman Danica Roem (D) just defeated anti-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall (R) in Virginia, becoming the first trans state legislator in America.
  3. 1:10:52 AMNeemChadhaKarelaLOL @ society has never collapsed
  4. 1:11:27 AMNeemChadhaKarelaYeah, ask why Weimar Republic is not discussed as much as it should be & why were Germans so fed-up before WW-II was forced on to them.
  5. 1:12:38 AMNeemChadhaKarelapela: Please tell thehorror that he's being dumb
  6. 1:19:34 AMNeemChadhaKarelaYepp, now that USA is already on its way to be make Weimar Republic look like pristine & comfortable place to raise children, you will be very pleased with the end-results.
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  8. 1:21:20 AM Ignoring NeemChadhaKarela!*@*
  9. 1:21:47 AM Stopped ignoring NeemChadhaKarela!*@*
  10. 1:21:59 AMTumblingReverieNeemChadhaKarela: Do you think the USA is experiencing "transgender mania"?
  11. 1:22:55 AMTumblingReverieNeemChadhaKarela: I am an exceptional philosopher.
  12. 1:23:24 AMTumblingReverie1 - Is the USA experiencing "transgender mania"?
  13. 1:23:36 AMTumblingReverie2 - What is the definition of "transgender mania"?
  14. 1:23:46 AMTumblingReverie3 - What data do you have that demonstrate the USA meets that definition?
  15. 1:23:50 AMTumblingReverieThose would be the first three questions.
  16. 1:24:14 AMTumblingReverieI find Paglia interesting. She is smart in some important ways, but in other ways I have not loved her thought process.
  17. 1:24:24 AMTumblingReverieShe is quite 'rushed', and somewhat emotional in her thoughts.
  18. 1:32:06 AMTumblingReveriePaglia isn't advancing many arguments to defend her thesis.
  19. 1:32:14 AMTumblingReverieAnd she is providing almost no data -- only claims.
  20. 1:33:36 AMTumblingReverieHer connection to ISIS is absurd.
  21. 1:34:10 AMTumblingReverieAll of the time she spends on the relations of adults and transgender children does not advanced her thesis.
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  23. 1:35:44 AMTumblingReverieShe just contradicted herself.
  24. 1:36:02 AMTumblingReverieShe claimed that transgender surgical interventions should not occur until 'age of majority', which she states is 18 (arbitrary).
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  26. 1:36:24 AMTumblingReverieThen, later, when describing Brown University, she describes as "evil" Brown's decision to have medical insurance cover surgical interventions.
  27. 1:36:35 AMTumblingReverieNotably, college students are almost all age 18 or above.
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  35. 1:49:24 AMNeemChadhaKarelaTumblingReverie: It's not just the US but in most of the Western countries there's transgender mania & active hatred for traditionality.
  36. 1:49:47 AMTumblingReverieOkay, you have addressed question 1.
  37. 1:51:10 AMNeemChadhaKarela2. Transgender mania is not only passive acceptance but active pursation to the point of making it mandatory pursuation of a lifestyle that is not only harmful to the individual but also ultimately destructive for the society.
  38. 1:52:03 AMNeemChadhaKarela3. Data - http://www.businessinsider.in/Gender-transition-surgeries-jumped-nearly-20-in-a-year-but-the-new-dat...
  39. 1:52:09 AMTumblingReveriePursation?
  40. 1:52:12 AMTumblingReveriePersuasion?
  41. 1:52:51 AMNeemChadhaKarelapersuasion, yes
  42. 1:52:55 AMTumblingReverieIncluding 'passive acceptance' in a definition for a type of mania seems unacceptable
  43. 1:53:07 AMTumblingReverie"mental illness marked by periods of great excitement, euphoria, delusions, and overactivity."
  44. 1:53:17 AMTumblingReverieI will reject that component of the definition
  45. 1:53:35 AMTumblingReverieCan you expound on "mandatory persuasion of a lifestyle"
  46. 1:54:58 AMNeemChadhaKarelaCan you openly critic transgenders?
  47. 1:55:28 AMNeemChadhaKarelaNot without being socially shamed & called a bigot
  48. 1:55:29 AMTumblingReverieAre you including that in your definition of transgender mania?
  49. 1:56:03 AMTumblingReverieI have read your Business Insider article
  50. 1:56:25 AMTumblingReverieOnly one problem is highlighted in the article: But McBride says that, while the new numbers highlight progress - an increasing number of medical organizations and insurers consider gender-related surgeries medically necessary - they also show a canyon of disparity in access to care: An estimated 1.4 million transgender people live in the US, yet many don't have affordable access to gender confirmation surgeries.
  51. 1:56:45 AMTumblingReverieAccess to these surgeries is the only problem highlighted in this article
  52. 1:57:01 AMTumblingReverieYour article provide zero support for your claims or Paglia's claim
  53. 1:57:57 AMTumblingReverieThere seem to be at least two major ways of looking at the increase in transgenderism in the last 20 years.
  54. 1:58:13 AMTumblingReverie1 - There was a rate of transgenderism 20 years ago, and it's legitimately higher today
  55. 1:58:14 AMNeemChadhaKarelaLOL, you are taking words of profiteers who stand to gain from the irreversible surgery & post-surgical care & medicines to claim that such extravagances should be socially supported at taxpayers expense?
  56. 1:58:49 AMTumblingReverie2 - There is a rate of transgenderism that was suppressed 20 years ago, and with changes in culture the true rate is being more accurately expressed
  57. 1:58:54 AMTumblingReverieYour last post was fallacious
  58. 2:00:32 AMNeemChadhaKarelaJust like you assume that transgenders were 'suppressed' I claim that since transgenders & homosexuals (& general deviancy of such type) have been shown in favourable light in mainstream media
  59. 2:00:56 AMNeemChadhaKarelaPeople who report to have affiliations & afflictions for such have increased
  60. 2:01:11 AMNeemChadhaKarelathehorror: Gays are fine, promoting homosexuality as active lifestyle is not.
  61. 2:01:39 AMNeemChadhaKarelaI meant to say alternative
  62. 2:01:41 AMTumblingReverieI made no assumptioni
  63. 2:01:52 AMTumblingReverieNeemChadhaKarela: You appear unable to engage in debate at a sufficiently high level for me
  64. 2:02:37 AMTumblingReverieDo you recall where we're at in the thread?
  65. 2:02:42 AMNeemChadhaKarelaNice assumption, I hope it helps you save face & avoid reality.
  66. 2:02:46 AM Ignoring NeemChadhaKarela!*@*
  67. 2:03:07 AMTumblingReverieNeemChadhaKarela: I was going to give you one final opportunity, and that was it. You made three fallacies in three consecutive posts to me.
  68. 2:03:11 AMTumblingReverieThank you for the conversation
  69. 2:03:30 AMTumblingReverieMy summary: You provided no support for your thesis
  70. 2:03:52 AMTumblingReverieWhere we were at in the thread was your explication of "mandatory persuasion of a lifestyle"
  71. 2:04:53 AMTumblingReverieIf you'd like, I will be willing to re-engage you on this topic after 24 hours
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