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  1. VegardSaether: like a beer?
  2. [16:25] CamiSohkanen: no veg
  3. [16:25] VegardSaether: i tink we have som wine down stairs?
  4. [16:25] VegardSaether: not?
  5. [16:25] CamiSohkanen: i don't know what you call it, but it's not that kind of alcohol.
  6. [16:25] CamiSohkanen: medical alcohol like you clean cuts with
  7. [16:26] VegardSaether: but the thing u push on is blue
  8. [16:26] VegardSaether: and now its dry
  9. [16:26] VegardSaether: so i cant get it off
  10. [16:26] OleVariko ble med i samtalerommet.
  11. [16:26] VegardSaether: and it taste really bad
  12. [16:26] VegardSaether: and the red table is blue tii
  13. [16:26] VegardSaether: too*
  14. [16:26] CamiSohkanen: the medical alcohol would help take it off but you would need to put a little of it on a cloth and wipe it.
  15. [16:27] VegardSaether: but its a wireless keyboard
  16. [16:27] CamiSohkanen: first, go spit out whatever got in your mouth, veggie
  17. [16:27] VegardSaether: i did it
  18. [16:27] VegardSaether: and washed my mouth
  19. [16:27] VegardSaether: but it taste crappy still
  20. [16:27] CamiSohkanen: wash it out a lot
  21. [16:27] OleVariko: Woah, what happened?
  22. [16:27] CamiSohkanen: until you can't taste the ink anymore
  23. [16:27] VegardSaether: ok
  24. [16:27] VegardSaether: brb
  25. [16:27] CamiSohkanen: he got ink in his mouth and on his kb and table, ole
  26. [16:27] CamiSohkanen: a pen leaked it seems
  27. [16:27] VegardSaether: soap?
  28. [16:28] OleVariko: Remove mouth and I've tried that too
  29. [16:28] VegardSaether: ??
  30. [16:28] CamiSohkanen: no soap. mouthwash if you have it, might help
  31. [16:28] VegardSaether: I think we have blue stuff
  32. [16:28] VegardSaether: brb
  33. [16:28] CamiSohkanen: or brush your teeth and tongue really well
  34. [16:29] CamiSohkanen: lol ole... well we know veggie is a little special... probably was chewing on a pen or something.
  35. [16:29] VegardSaether: the blue stuff helped
  36. [16:29] CamiSohkanen: it;s happened to me that i've gotten ink in my mouth that way before. nasty tasting stuff.
  37. [16:29] OleVariko: There's people that rip off the lids using their mouths
  38. [16:30] VegardSaether: No i was biting on the pen
  39. [16:30] VegardSaether: the inside pen
  40. [16:30] VegardSaether: and it broke
  41. [16:30] CamiSohkanen: yeah ole - i used to chew pens a lot
  42. [16:30] CamiSohkanen: veggie, so there's a lesson for you - don't do that again
  43. [16:30] VegardSaether: I like took the inside thing out
  44. [16:30] VegardSaether: Ink wont go away from my mouth
  45. [16:30] VegardSaether: i used blue stuff in 30sex
  46. [16:30] VegardSaether: sec*
  47. [16:30] VegardSaether: It went away for some seconds
  48. [16:30] VegardSaether: and then ink again
  49. [16:31] CamiSohkanen: you might just have to wait for it to go away on its own veggie
  50. [16:31] VegardSaether: ok
  51. [16:31] VegardSaether: But it burns and im getting
  52. [16:31] VegardSaether: like
  53. [16:31] VegardSaether: you kow when youre bad in youre stomach
  54. [16:31] VegardSaether: and need too
  55. [16:31] VegardSaether: whats it called?
  56. [16:31] CamiSohkanen: using a toothbrush with toothpaste on your tongue might help some. how much ink did you get in your mouth, veg?
  57. [16:31] OleVariko: throw up?
  58. [16:31] VegardSaether: yeah
  59. [16:31] VegardSaether: I dont know
  60. [16:32] VegardSaether: i just bit and felt like crappy taste and threw it away and hit keayboard and hit table
  61. [16:32] VegardSaether: and now it wont go away
  62. [16:32] CamiSohkanen: veggie you need to stop what you're doing and go tell your mom or something... if you swallowed too much ink you may need medical help
  63. [16:32] VegardSaether: Well i dont think its so much
  64. [16:33] VegardSaether: and theyre on work in Germany or France
  65. [16:33] CamiSohkanen: if it is making you sick to your stomach, it could be too much.
  66. [16:33] VegardSaether: But what with the keayboard
  67. [16:33] VegardSaether: ?
  68. [16:33] OleVariko: You can always buy a new one
  69. [16:33] VeraRose: vegard, if it's dry, you won't get it off
  70. [16:34] CamiSohkanen: first, do not get the inside of the keyboard wet, whatever you do... and as vera said, if the ink is dry it will not come off
  71. [16:34] VeraRose: who is there to take care of you?
  72. [16:34] OleVariko: And yeah, what Vera said. I still have stains on my table after an ink pen broke
  73. [16:34] VegardSaether: My grandma
  74. [16:34] VeraRose: go tell her
  75. [16:34] OleVariko: Tell her
  76. [16:34] VegardSaether: Shes on the shop in the city
  77. [16:34] VeraRose: call her
  78. [16:34] VegardSaether: But its dry
  79. [16:35] VegardSaether: But its wireless keyboard
  80. [16:35] VegardSaether: can i wash it then??
  81. [16:35] CamiSohkanen: veggie did you spit out the water and mouth wash when you washed your mouth out with it?
  82. [16:35] BruceLogsdon: i doubt there is enough ink in a pen to cause anything more like very brief nausea
  83. [16:35] CamiSohkanen: veggie no.
  84. [16:35] CamiSohkanen: there are still wires inside it.
  85. [16:35] VegardSaether: Yeah
  86. [16:35] CamiSohkanen: bruce, you are probably right, but it depends on what kind of pen it is.
  87. [16:35] VeraRose: vegard, you can use a vaskeklut with lano on it to try and wash it off
  88. [16:35] VegardSaether: isnt u supposed to spit it out?
  89. [16:35] CamiSohkanen: yes veggie
  90. [16:36] VegardSaether: i did it
  91. [16:36] VegardSaether: i did Vera
  92. [16:36] VegardSaether: and with beer on
  93. [16:36] CamiSohkanen: i asked because if you swallowed mouth wash that might make your stomach sick.
  94. [16:36] VegardSaether: but nothing helped
  95. [16:36] CamiSohkanen: no beer.. beer won't help
  96. [16:36] VeraRose: beer? why did you use beer?
  97. [16:36] BruceLogsdon: i don't think so, i mean this thing isn't uncommon and if it were dangerous to swallow it they would probably change the stuff they use to make it not dangerous
  98. [16:36] VegardSaether: because its alcohol in it
  99. [16:36] CamiSohkanen: because i said alcohol, not knowing the word you use for rubbing alcohol
  100. [16:36] BruceLogsdon: you're supposed to use alcohol, not alcoholic beverages
  101. [16:36] VeraRose: well rubbing alcohol wouldn't help either
  102. [16:37] VegardSaether: But i swallowed toothpaste
  103. [16:37] VegardSaether: because it taste good and ink doesnt
  104. [16:37] CamiSohkanen: well, it removes some ink stains from clothing, vera.
  105. [16:37] VeraRose: well this isn't clothing, it's hard plastic
  106. [16:37] VeraRose: he needs a solvent
  107. [16:37] VeraRose: and that's not something he's doing on his own
  108. [16:38] VegardSaether: whats solvent?
  109. [16:38] VeraRose: and besides, ink on the keyboard isn't the end of the world
  110. [16:38] VegardSaether: but its on the red wooden table too
  111. [16:38] VegardSaether: and i think its expensive
  112. [16:38] VeraRose: it doesn't matter, vegard -you're not gonna use it anyway
  113. [16:38] VegardSaether: it looks expensive
  114. [16:38] CamiSohkanen: you are right. i was just trying to think of something he would have on hand that might help... and veggie, if your stomach is still sick, try drinking a glass of milk. if the ink is making you feel sick it might help neutralize it.
  115. [16:38] VegardSaether: ok brb
  116. [16:39] BruceLogsdon: you can remove the keys on the keyboard and put them in whatever liquid fixes it and put them in the dishwasher
  117. [16:39] CamiSohkanen: bruce, don't give him ideas lol
  118. [16:39] VeraRose: in the dishwasher? lol that sounds like a party for the alphabet
  119. [16:39] VeraRose: zooming around inside that thing
  120. [16:39] CamiSohkanen: and a recipe for melted keys
  121. [16:39] BruceLogsdon: not really
  122. [16:39] VeraRose: lol they'd be cleaning buttons out of the filters for weeks
  123. [16:39] VeraRose: and it wouldn't melt
  124. [16:39] • CamiSohkanen envisions keys landing on the drying element
  125. [16:39] BruceLogsdon: people do that
  126. [16:40] BruceLogsdon: and it works
  127. [16:40] VeraRose: most dishwashers don't get warmer than 60 degrees
  128. [16:40] VeraRose: and most computer parts can stand more than 110
  129. [16:40] VegardSaether: milk helped
  130. [16:40] VegardSaether: thanks
  131. [16:40] CamiSohkanen: i dunno vera. the one i had would melt plastic cooking utensils
  132. [16:40] CamiSohkanen: yw veggie
  133. [16:40] VeraRose: crappy plastic then
  134. [16:40] VegardSaether: i found something that may help in the washing room
  135. [16:40] CamiSohkanen: if the utensils landed on the drying element they got melted
  136. [16:41] VeraRose: that's why the drying element isn't exposed in most dishwashers
  137. [16:41] VegardSaether: Do i just take a klut and dash it on the keyboard?
  138. [16:41] VeraRose: and vegard, what did you find?
  139. [16:41] CamiSohkanen: it was in mine
  140. [16:41] VegardSaether: im not sure
  141. [16:41] VeraRose: read the bottle
  142. [16:41] VegardSaether: it says Plumo
  143. [16:41] VeraRose: no
  144. [16:41] VegardSaether: plumbo*
  145. [16:41] VeraRose: no no no
  146. [16:41] VeraRose: no
  147. [16:41] VeraRose: no no
  148. [16:41] VeraRose: seriously
  149. [16:41] VeraRose: don't
  150. [16:41] VeraRose: it won't help
  151. [16:41] VegardSaether: ok
  152. [16:41] CamiSohkanen: piut it away and don't touch anything like it till you are at least 25, veg.
  153. [16:41] CamiSohkanen: seriously.
  154. [16:42] VegardSaether: it smels really much
  155. [16:42] VeraRose: lol maybe not that dramatic but liquid drain cleaner is too strong
  156. [16:42] VeraRose: don't get it on your skin
  157. [16:42] VegardSaether: ok
  158. [16:42] VeraRose: and if you do, wash them right away
  159. [16:42] CamiSohkanen: put it away, close it, don't open it again. it can make you sick and burn your skin
  160. [16:42] VegardSaether: i only smelled
  161. [16:42] CamiSohkanen: just smelling it can make you sick
  162. [16:42] VegardSaether: But what about the table and keyboard?
  163. [16:42] VeraRose: dude cami don't scare the kid
  164. [16:43] VeraRose: a whiff of it won't make him sick
  165. [16:43] CamiSohkanen: i wasn't trying to scare him vera, i just meant not tokeep smelling
  166. [16:43] VegardSaether: What sick
  167. [16:43] VegardSaether: ?
  168. [16:43] VeraRose: vegard, it's dried already
  169. [16:43] CamiSohkanen: inhaling a lot of it could make him ill, but just a whiff won't.
  170. [16:43] VeraRose: it can wait until your grandma gets back
  171. [16:43] BruceLogsdon: doesn't that kind of stuff make you feel good if you smell it, and not sick?
  172. [16:43] VeraRose: lol bruce
  173. [16:43] CamiSohkanen: yeah veg, the ink won't come off, there's nothing you can do yourself.
  174. [16:43] BruceLogsdon: just saying
  175. [16:43] VeraRose: depends on how much, but in general plumbo will just give you a headache
  176. [16:44] VegardSaether: stupid pen
  177. [16:44] BruceLogsdon: but he has beer too
  178. [16:44] CamiSohkanen: bruce, the stuff that makes you feel good when you smell it can also kill you if you smell too much of it
  179. [16:44] VeraRose: lol
  180. [16:44] BruceLogsdon: maybe his parents will think the beer came before the explosion
  181. [16:44] VegardSaether: beer didnt help Bruce
  182. [16:44] BruceLogsdon: yeah
  183. [16:44] VegardSaether: not wine either
  184. [16:44] BruceLogsdon: well just wait until someone can help you, that's probably the best idea
  185. [16:45] VegardSaether: why di they make pens that break!?
  186. [16:45] CamiSohkanen: yes, veggie, forget about trying to get the ink off until your grandma is home.
  187. [16:45] VegardSaether: do*
  188. [16:45] BruceLogsdon: potato chips could potentially kill me too if i were to have too much
  189. [16:45] CamiSohkanen: you shouldn't chew pens, especially not the inside part, veg
  190. [16:45] VegardSaether: its still alot inside it
  191. [16:45] CamiSohkanen: bruce, the difference between chips and inhalants is that the amount that makes you feel good is dangerously close to the amount that kills you with inhalants
  192. [16:45] VeraRose: throw it away, vegard
  193. [16:46] VegardSaether: where?
  194. [16:46] VeraRose: in the trash
  195. [16:46] VegardSaether: ok
  196. [16:46] VegardSaether: i cant press the an
  197. [16:46] VegardSaether: button
  198. [16:46] VegardSaether: you know
  199. [16:46] VegardSaether: ales
  200. [16:46] VegardSaether: en
  201. [16:46] VeraRose: Recent diary events
  202. [16:46] VeraRose: Ended show at The Kaizer [Stockholm]. It was perfect!
  203. [16:46] VeraRose: Performed my first perfect concert.
  204. [16:47] VegardSaether: Nice!
  205. [16:47] VegardSaether: is it nice?
  206. [16:47] VeraRose: it's perfect!
  207. [16:47] VeraRose: woooot
  208. [16:47] CamiSohkanen: great job, aunt vee
  209. [16:48] BruceLogsdon: nice vera
  210. [16:49] JarkkoSohkanen ble promotert til operatør av Bot.
  211. [16:49] JarkkoSohkanen ble med i samtalerommet.
  212. [16:49] • VeraRose tacklehugs Jarkko and points to her latest show results
  213. [16:49] VegardSaether: can i take the blue stuff twice Cai?
  214. [16:49] VegardSaether: CaiSohkanen
  215. [16:49] BruceLogsdon: is it between 13 and 16 songs you get the decent amount entry?
  216. [16:50] CamiSohkanen: veggie you can wash you mouth out again if you want, yes.
  217. [16:50] VeraRose: yeah bruce
  218. [16:50] VegardSaether: with the blue stuff?
  219. [16:50] CamiSohkanen: with mouthwash yes
  220. [16:50] BruceLogsdon: alright thanks
  221. [16:50] VegardSaether: yes but the first letter in outhwash isn working
  222. [16:50] BruceLogsdon: gonna get rid of our 3* songs then
  223. [16:51] CamiSohkanen: veggie, you should quit whatever programs you are in and shut down the computer and not try to use it for a while. that means you got something inside the keyboard that is causing problems and it will only get worse if you keep using it
  224. [16:52] VegardSaether: so shut down?
  225. [16:52] CamiSohkanen: and make sure you tell your grandma as soon as you can
  226. [16:52] VeraRose: wait what?
  227. [16:52] VeraRose: stop stop
  228. [16:52] VeraRose: the M isn't working?
  229. [16:52] VegardSaether: yes
  230. [16:52] VegardSaether: but only that one
  231. [16:52] CamiSohkanen: vera, he got something in the keyboard that is making keys stop working
  232. [16:52] VeraRose: i'm not dumb cami
  233. [16:52] VegardSaether: 1234567890+\qwertyuiopåasdfghjkløæ<zxcvbn
  234. [16:52] VeraRose: vegard, try pressing it and holding it down
  235. [16:52] VegardSaether: yea only the letter u said
  236. [16:52] VegardSaether: It doesnt respond
  237. [16:53] VeraRose: does the computer beep if you hold it in long enough?
  238. [16:53] VegardSaether: No
  239. [16:53] VegardSaether: how long?
  240. [16:53] VeraRose: i dunno, five seconds or so
  241. [16:53] VegardSaether: not working and no beep
  242. [16:54] VeraRose: but your keyboard can't really ruin your computer so unless any other keys start acting difficult, you can keep using it
  243. [16:54] VegardSaether: ok
  244. [16:54] VegardSaether: youre sart
  245. [16:54] CamiSohkanen: that's true... just was thinking that if he kept using it, that would make the keyboard worse
  246. [16:55] CamiSohkanen: i think he lost his apostrophe too lol
  247. [16:55] VeraRose: nah, it can't make it worse. what's in there is in there
  248. [16:55] VegardSaether: whats aposhtophe?
  249. [16:55] CamiSohkanen: '
  250. [16:55] VeraRose: i poured a cup of tea over my keyboard and it worked fine until it didn't, and then it went all haywire
  251. [16:55] CamiSohkanen: that
  252. [16:55] VegardSaether: haywire?
  253. [16:56] VeraRose: crazy
  254. [16:56] BruceLogsdon: woo seems like one of my flamenco songs is being covered
  255. [16:56] CamiSohkanen: ah, well my experiences with tea and keyboards showed that one key would go, and then more would, but stopping before it got all through it and letting it all dry out usually helped
  256. [16:57] JarkkoSohkanen: ideally you unplugnit immediately
  257. [16:57] VegardSaether: y finger still sells ink
  258. [16:57] LuMeeks: same here, with water though
  259. [16:57] VegardSaether: but its wireless
  260. [16:57] JarkkoSohkanen: i mean, you can put a kb through the dishwasher
  261. [16:57] VeraRose: dude what
  262. [16:57] VeraRose: no
  263. [16:57] BruceLogsdon: yeah if you let it dry for days
  264. [16:57] CamiSohkanen: lol don't start with the dishwasher again
  265. [16:57] VeraRose: it's electronic
  266. [16:57] JarkkoSohkanen: it's not liquid that harms it
  267. [16:57] LuMeeks: herr herr just don't put it in the oven afterwards v_v
  268. [16:57] VeraRose: lol lu
  269. [16:57] BruceLogsdon: you can and i told you before too!
  270. [16:57] CamiSohkanen: voice of experience, lu?
  271. [16:58] VeraRose: i thought you just meant the buttons after you peel them off!
  272. [16:58] VegardSaether: how do i take it away fro eachother?
  273. [16:58] VegardSaether: the buttons?
  274. [16:58] VeraRose: vegard, don't
  275. [16:58] JarkkoSohkanen: but yeah, it has to be dry before you plug it back in again.
  276. [16:58] VegardSaether: ok
  277. [16:58] BruceLogsdon: well that's easier because then you won't have to wait as long
  278. [16:58] VeraRose: wait until you have someone to help you
  279. [16:58] BruceLogsdon: but people over at macworld do it all the time
  280. [16:58] CamiSohkanen: bruce, veggie is not over at macworld
  281. [16:58] BruceLogsdon: i know?
  282. [16:58] VeraRose: and it's wireless, there isn't a cable that can ruin it
  283. [16:59] BruceLogsdon: i was talking about keyboards in dishwashers
  284. [16:59] VegardSaether: Is it possible putting the whole thing in the washaster?
  285. [16:59] CamiSohkanen: and what i mean is he isn't as tech savvy as they are.
  286. [16:59] BruceLogsdon: you just put it in, get it out, let it dry, then use it
  287. [16:59] BruceLogsdon: it's not rocket science
  288. [16:59] BruceLogsdon: but vegard don't do it
  289. [17:00] CamiSohkanen: vera, i am going to let you deal with this from now on. we just seem to keep confusing him more.
  290. [17:00] VeraRose: wise
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