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  1. Aug 21 00:42:45 * Phinehas (~walter@Rizon-B32AE35B.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) has joined
  2. Aug 21 00:42:51 <EugeneEniks> how dare he sleep
  3. Aug 21 00:42:52 <Phinehas> fags
  4. Aug 21 00:42:53 <EugeneEniks> phinehas is that you
  5. Aug 21 00:42:56 <Phinehas> yes
  6. Aug 21 00:42:56 <EugeneEniks> from steam?
  7. Aug 21 00:42:59 <Phinehas> yes homo
  8. Aug 21 00:43:04 <EugeneEniks> Suspook: i brought in an old friend
  9. Aug 21 00:43:10 <EugeneEniks> Susleep,
  10. Aug 21 00:43:10 <Phinehas> OH FUCK
  11. Aug 21 00:43:14 <Phinehas> alghazi is here
  12. Aug 21 00:43:42 <EugeneEniks> you know him?
  13. Aug 21 00:43:44 <EugeneEniks> i've only joined today
  14. Aug 21 00:43:57 <Phinehas> He mocks me for my Christian Identity beliefs.
  15. Aug 21 00:44:07 <EugeneEniks> after the ferguson shit i decided to join greatapes after all
  16. Aug 21 00:44:14 <EugeneEniks> you really are CI?
  17. Aug 21 00:44:18 <EugeneEniks> I thought you were shitting me
  18. Aug 21 00:44:18 <Phinehas> He will not accept Aryans are true Israel.
  19. Aug 21 00:44:30 <EugeneEniks> i thought you were messing with me
  20. Aug 21 00:44:41 <EugeneEniks> i dont have a problem with jews
  21. Aug 21 00:45:04 <Phinehas> You're Khazar
  22. Aug 21 00:45:09 <EugeneEniks> jews are overrepresented in everything, and that includes leftism thus why people think they're The Problem (tm)
  23. Aug 21 00:45:21 <Phinehas> I know the problem is actually that white people are shit
  24. Aug 21 00:45:25 <EugeneEniks> yes
  25. Aug 21 00:45:26 <EugeneEniks> lol
  26. Aug 21 00:45:26 <Phinehas> I don't blame them.
  27. Aug 21 00:45:30 <EugeneEniks> well
  28. Aug 21 00:45:34 <EugeneEniks> look at it this way
  29. Aug 21 00:45:40 <EugeneEniks> people point to the jewish origins of communism
  30. Aug 21 00:45:53 <EugeneEniks> forgetting two things: it wasn't just jews who fucking implemented it in the ussr
  31. Aug 21 00:46:01 <EugeneEniks> and second: look at a lot of the jewish economists in america
  32. Aug 21 00:46:04 <Phinehas> yes
  33. Aug 21 00:46:06 <EugeneEniks> you had good guys
  34. Aug 21 00:46:22 <EugeneEniks> mises, rothbard, friedman, etc
  35. Aug 21 00:46:41 <Phinehas> However, they are just the Jewish answer to the right.
  36. Aug 21 00:46:46 <EugeneEniks> disagree
  37. Aug 21 00:46:54 <EugeneEniks> jews are just overrepresented
  38. Aug 21 00:47:15 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, did you figure out my name
  39. Aug 21 00:47:22 <EugeneEniks> i thought it was witty
  40. Aug 21 00:47:30 <Phinehas> I haven't, I'm trying
  41. Aug 21 00:47:44 <EugeneEniks> try saying it quickly a few times
  42. Aug 21 00:48:00 <Phinehas> ahh okay
  43. Aug 21 00:48:03 <EugeneEniks> lol
  44. Aug 21 00:48:05 <Phinehas> eugenics
  45. Aug 21 00:48:08 <EugeneEniks> haha
  46. Aug 21 00:48:10 <Phinehas> lel
  47. Aug 21 00:49:02 <EugeneEniks> we should play civ 5 tomorrow
  48. Aug 21 00:49:08 <EugeneEniks> guess which civ i'll be
  49. Aug 21 00:49:10 <EugeneEniks> easy answer
  50. Aug 21 00:49:12 <Phinehas> Poland
  51. Aug 21 00:49:15 <EugeneEniks> yes
  52. Aug 21 00:49:17 <Phinehas> lol
  53. Aug 21 00:49:23 <EugeneEniks> would be funny to be zulu
  54. Aug 21 00:49:25 <EugeneEniks> and spread judaism
  55. Aug 21 00:49:35 <EugeneEniks> whenever i play civ 5 i always nuke moscow
  56. Aug 21 00:49:47 <Phinehas> I like byzantine
  57. Aug 21 00:49:59 <EugeneEniks> the huns are great too
  58. Aug 21 00:50:02 <EugeneEniks> try playing those
  59. Aug 21 00:50:06 <EugeneEniks> crazy early game units
  60. Aug 21 00:50:25 <Phinehas> Do you have Crusader Kings 2 or EU4?
  61. Aug 21 00:50:28 <EugeneEniks> no
  62. Aug 21 00:50:33 <EugeneEniks> i'm on linux
  63. Aug 21 00:50:37 <Phinehas> it's on linux
  64. Aug 21 00:50:40 <EugeneEniks> oh no
  65. Aug 21 00:50:48 <EugeneEniks> really dota takes up most of my gaming
  66. Aug 21 00:51:25 <Phinehas> btw, It's GNU Linux.
  67. Aug 21 00:52:07 <Phinehas> so alghazi is a dirty Paki in NYC
  68. Aug 21 00:52:22 <alghazi> im not paki
  69. Aug 21 00:52:25 <EugeneEniks> rofl
  70. Aug 21 00:52:26 <Phinehas> lel
  71. Aug 21 00:52:27 <EugeneEniks> he pops up
  72. Aug 21 00:52:52 <alghazi> <Phinehas> He mocks me for my Christian Identity beliefs.
  73. Aug 21 00:53:01 <alghazi> i have no words
  74. Aug 21 00:53:03 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, is Phinehas trolling about being CI>
  75. Aug 21 00:53:04 <EugeneEniks> ?
  76. Aug 21 00:53:08 <alghazi> i dont know
  77. Aug 21 00:53:18 <alghazi> his beliefs are by far some of the most outlandish i've ever read on the internet
  78. Aug 21 00:53:25 <EugeneEniks> he's an old troll buddy so it's hard to tell
  79. Aug 21 00:53:33 <alghazi> i find that joy of satan makes more logical sense than what he espouses
  80. Aug 21 00:53:40 <EugeneEniks> lol
  81. Aug 21 00:53:48 <Phinehas> Harrington something
  82. Aug 21 00:53:53 <Phinehas> is Joy of Satan
  83. Aug 21 00:54:03 <EugeneEniks> i met Phinehas on #stormfront
  84. Aug 21 00:54:08 <EugeneEniks> waaaaay baaaaack
  85. Aug 21 00:54:14 <Phinehas> back in like 2002/2003
  86. Aug 21 00:54:16 <EugeneEniks> yeah
  87. Aug 21 00:54:19 <EugeneEniks> you were a good find
  88. Aug 21 00:54:26 <EugeneEniks> only person worth talking to in that channel
  89. Aug 21 00:54:29 <EugeneEniks> remember craven?
  90. Aug 21 00:54:32 <EugeneEniks> that guys was off the wall
  91. Aug 21 00:54:35 <Phinehas> you're a lot smarter than I am though
  92. Aug 21 00:54:39 <EugeneEniks> true
  93. Aug 21 00:54:58 <Phinehas> your xanga trolls is art
  94. Aug 21 00:55:06 <EugeneEniks> suspook is one of them
  95. Aug 21 00:55:11 <EugeneEniks> i consider him #2
  96. Aug 21 00:55:16 <EugeneEniks> on the xanga shit
  97. Aug 21 00:55:26 <Phinehas> craven, I don't remember
  98. Aug 21 00:55:37 <Phinehas> I remember bluewolf
  99. Aug 21 00:55:42 <Phinehas> some girl that never sent pics
  100. Aug 21 00:55:42 <EugeneEniks> there was some x guy who thought we didn't really go on the moon
  101. Aug 21 00:55:53 <EugeneEniks> have you seen stormfront member picture threads
  102. Aug 21 00:55:58 <Phinehas> nope
  103. Aug 21 00:55:59 <EugeneEniks> like 1/3 to 1/2 clearly not fully white
  104. Aug 21 00:56:11 <Phinehas> G-d damn
  105. Aug 21 00:56:17 * Freddy (cgiirc@Rizon-BB4873ED.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined
  106. Aug 21 00:56:18 <EugeneEniks> people with heritage issues
  107. Aug 21 00:56:26 <EugeneEniks> that's what white nationalists are though
  108. Aug 21 00:56:26 * Freddy has quit ()
  109. Aug 21 00:56:29 <EugeneEniks> fuck you freddy
  110. Aug 21 00:56:39 <alghazi> why is it that almost every white nationalist i see is fucking mixed-race or portugese or greek or some other barely-white shit
  111. Aug 21 00:56:52 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, they have no heritage
  112. Aug 21 00:56:58 <alghazi> ya
  113. Aug 21 00:56:59 <Phinehas> I know my heritage, pure Anglo-Saxon Israelite.
  114. Aug 21 00:57:02 <EugeneEniks> that's what white nationalism is
  115. Aug 21 00:57:07 <EugeneEniks> fucking mcdonalds nationalism
  116. Aug 21 00:57:07 <alghazi> same thing like the niggers who pretend to be egyptians and beethoven
  117. Aug 21 00:57:12 <alghazi> they have no heritage so they have to make it up
  118. Aug 21 00:57:16 <EugeneEniks> instead they pretend to be vikings
  119. Aug 21 00:57:27 <EugeneEniks> when more than likely vikings killed their ancestors
  120. Aug 21 00:57:29 <alghazi> why are vikings so romanticized by these people
  121. Aug 21 00:57:35 <EugeneEniks> right?
  122. Aug 21 00:57:40 <alghazi> vikings were the biggest niggers in the known world
  123. Aug 21 00:57:47 <EugeneEniks> how many of them are slavs yet you see only a few instances of them fapping over slavic paganism
  124. Aug 21 00:57:49 <Phinehas> I like calling them LARPers on /pol/
  125. Aug 21 00:58:15 <EugeneEniks> on stormfront 10 years ago someone said hitler was justified in exterminating slavs if he exterminated jews too
  126. Aug 21 00:58:18 <EugeneEniks> i think that's when i left stormfront
  127. Aug 21 00:58:18 <Phinehas> Than post Adolf Hitler Mien Kampf quote on them being faggots
  128. Aug 21 00:58:34 <Phinehas> Slavs are white.
  129. Aug 21 00:58:44 <EugeneEniks> we're mixed
  130. Aug 21 00:58:51 <EugeneEniks> white yes, but some asiatic mixture
  131. Aug 21 00:59:07 <EugeneEniks> ashekazim jews are basically european/semite mix
  132. Aug 21 00:59:32 <Phinehas> They are Edomite/Khazars
  133. Aug 21 00:59:34 <EugeneEniks> semite part still there because of their requirements of being a jew throughout the ages
  134. Aug 21 00:59:35 <EugeneEniks> zzz
  135. Aug 21 00:59:35 <Phinehas> they aren't of Shem
  136. Aug 21 00:59:38 <EugeneEniks> they're not khazars
  137. Aug 21 00:59:49 <Phinehas> yes they are, it has been proven just this year
  138. Aug 21 00:59:51 <EugeneEniks> haplogroups and all that shit
  139. Aug 21 00:59:53 <EugeneEniks> no they're not
  140. Aug 21 00:59:59 <EugeneEniks> that's christian identity bullshit
  141. Aug 21 01:00:15 <Phinehas> http://forward.com/articles/175912/jews-a-race-genetic-theory-comes-under-fierce-atta/?p=all
  142. Aug 21 01:00:18 <Phinehas> No it isn't...
  143. Aug 21 01:01:11 <alghazi> i dont really care what the ashkenazis are
  144. Aug 21 01:01:12 <alghazi> all i know
  145. Aug 21 01:01:15 <alghazi> is that they are not hebrews
  146. Aug 21 01:01:22 <alghazi> that is for sure
  147. Aug 21 01:01:22 <Phinehas> Elhaik says he has proved that Ashkenazi Jews’ roots lie in the Caucasus — a region at the border of Europe and Asia that lies between the Black and Caspian seas — not in the Middle East. They are descendants, he argues, of the Khazars, a Turkic people who lived in one of the largest medieval states in Eurasia and then migrated to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries. Ashkenazi genes, Elhaik added, are far more he
  148. Aug 21 01:01:22 <Phinehas> terogeneous than Ostrer and other proponents of the Rhineland Hypothesis believe. Elhaik did find a Middle Eastern genetic marker in DNA from Jews, but, he says, it could be from Iran, not ancient Judea.
  149. Aug 21 01:01:42 <EugeneEniks> i dont trust that
  150. Aug 21 01:01:54 <EugeneEniks> and that's just one guy
  151. Aug 21 01:02:02 <EugeneEniks> maybe he's right but that's not enough for me
  152. Aug 21 01:02:13 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, there is a fair amount of historical evidence to back it up
  153. Aug 21 01:02:16 <EugeneEniks> cause i don't know shit about the specifics but i'm pretty sure that's not entirely true
  154. Aug 21 01:02:34 <alghazi> the khazar empire centered in the northern caucasus and surrounding area converted to judaism in the 7th century
  155. Aug 21 01:02:38 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, all of it is politicized
  156. Aug 21 01:02:42 <Phinehas> I think the Palestinians have a legit claim.
  157. Aug 21 01:02:51 <alghazi> it doesnt matter
  158. Aug 21 01:02:53 <EugeneEniks> stems from british israelism (which later evolved into christian identity)
  159. Aug 21 01:03:02 <EugeneEniks> yes but idealogues always pick and choose facts
  160. Aug 21 01:03:05 <Phinehas> It's older then that
  161. Aug 21 01:03:11 <alghazi> it's far older than that
  162. Aug 21 01:03:30 <alghazi> the biggest evidence against the ashkenazis anyway, is their appearance
  163. Aug 21 01:04:15 <Phinehas> alghazi: is Kosher Haram?
  164. Aug 21 01:04:25 <alghazi> please tell me where in palestine you find these people with that disgusting white-ish skin the jews have, jewish-type hair, light colored hair and eyes
  165. Aug 21 01:04:29 <alghazi> phinehas, no
  166. Aug 21 01:04:38 <alghazi> "Allowed for you is the food of the People of the Book" -Qur'an
  167. Aug 21 01:04:58 <Phinehas> proof Muslims and Jews work for the same goal.
  168. Aug 21 01:05:07 <alghazi> ok
  169. Aug 21 01:05:12 <Phinehas> the death and destruction of true Israel.
  170. Aug 21 01:05:14 <alghazi> you realize that also means we can eat your food too right?
  171. Aug 21 01:05:54 <alghazi> you know, i really wonder if you actually believe this stuff
  172. Aug 21 01:06:11 <alghazi> you sound like an actual jew, except you think anglos are the master race and not jews
  173. Aug 21 01:06:18 <alghazi> everything else is practically identical
  174. Aug 21 01:06:25 <Phinehas> Jews are for race mixing.
  175. Aug 21 01:06:40 <alghazi> not amongst themselves
  176. Aug 21 01:07:00 <alghazi> which is a lot like all these people on /pol/ who express a desire to dilute undesirable bloodlines
  177. Aug 21 01:07:05 <Phinehas> maybe in the last 100 years or so
  178. Aug 21 01:08:01 <Phinehas> nothing happening in Ferguson right now
  179. Aug 21 01:08:34 <alghazi> phinehas, anyway, im still eager to see the evidence you never provided that anglos are the master race
  180. Aug 21 01:08:49 <Phinehas> the proof is all around you
  181. Aug 21 01:08:50 <alghazi> biblical evidence, or a link to the ancient hebrews
  182. Aug 21 01:09:25 <alghazi> that argument you just attempted to make shows a lack of understanding of the bigger picture
  183. Aug 21 01:09:26 <Phinehas> We have abandoned our God and he has abandoned us
  184. Aug 21 01:09:36 <alghazi> anglos were fucking barbarians until a few hundred years ago
  185. Aug 21 01:09:39 <Phinehas> and our nations are being over run and destroyed as well
  186. Aug 21 01:10:19 <alghazi> i thought god was supposed to protect israel
  187. Aug 21 01:10:35 <alghazi> i thought you were saved even if you did wrong
  188. Aug 21 01:10:40 <Phinehas> God does but also punishes.
  189. Aug 21 01:11:16 <Phinehas> Romans 11:26
  190. Aug 21 01:11:18 <Phinehas> And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
  191. Aug 21 01:11:22 <alghazi> you say your nations are being destroyed when they hold the highest standards of living in the world
  192. Aug 21 01:11:38 <Phinehas> It will not be for long.
  193. Aug 21 01:11:44 <alghazi> isnt that chapter just a letter that some fag wrote
  194. Aug 21 01:11:48 <alghazi> err
  195. Aug 21 01:11:49 <alghazi> that book
  196. Aug 21 01:12:05 <Phinehas> It is a letter to the Romans by Paul
  197. Aug 21 01:12:08 <EugeneEniks> ah
  198. Aug 21 01:12:11 <EugeneEniks> jalepeno shit
  199. Aug 21 01:12:13 <EugeneEniks> interesting
  200. Aug 21 01:12:24 <alghazi> The Epistle to the Romans, often shortened to Romans, is the sixth book in the New Testament. Biblical scholars agree that it was composed by the Apostle Paul
  201. Aug 21 01:12:28 <alghazi> >Paul
  202. Aug 21 01:12:30 <alghazi> fucking dropped
  203. Aug 21 01:12:39 <Phinehas> Of course
  204. Aug 21 01:12:45 <Phinehas> Liberals hate him
  205. Aug 21 01:13:01 <Phinehas> He spoke out against Homosexuality and he spoke of the role of woman.
  206. Aug 21 01:13:11 <alghazi> uh
  207. Aug 21 01:13:20 <alghazi> are you implying im a liberal
  208. Aug 21 01:13:28 <alghazi> or have a problem with either of those parts of his writings
  209. Aug 21 01:13:42 <EugeneEniks> i'm just going to not participate in this and enjoy myself reading it
  210. Aug 21 01:13:44 <alghazi> do you seriously have no knowledge of the whole anti-pauline beef
  211. Aug 21 01:14:00 <Phinehas> I have knowledge of it.
  212. Aug 21 01:14:10 <Phinehas> My Pastor has debunked all of it.
  213. Aug 21 01:14:45 <Phinehas> He did a 23 part series. http://christogenea.org/podcasts/paul-bashers
  214. Aug 21 01:15:32 <alghazi> do you seriously expect me to listen to 7 hours of that or whatever it is
  215. Aug 21 01:15:45 <Phinehas> I don't expect anything.
  216. Aug 21 01:16:06 <alghazi> paul was one of, if not the originators of the concept of jesus as being god
  217. Aug 21 01:16:11 <Phinehas> It's more like 46 hours.
  218. Aug 21 01:16:47 <Phinehas> This is where Christians and Muslims are divided.
  219. Aug 21 01:17:01 <alghazi> paul had parts of the gospel narrations rearranged and reworded when put into writing to better reflect what he said
  220. Aug 21 01:17:27 <alghazi> there's also anti-pauline christians
  221. Aug 21 01:17:27 <alghazi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuism
  222. Aug 21 01:18:02 <alghazi> also arianism
  223. Aug 21 01:18:26 <Phinehas> heretics
  224. Aug 21 01:18:40 <alghazi> lol
  225. Aug 21 01:18:44 <alghazi> the council of nicaea was literally
  226. Aug 21 01:18:49 <alghazi> a bunch of roman pagans and jews
  227. Aug 21 01:19:01 <alghazi> coming together to discuss what the "official" christianity would be
  228. Aug 21 01:19:23 <Phinehas> I doubt St. John Chrysostom would sit with jews.
  229. Aug 21 01:19:56 <EugeneEniks> i wish they would've decided to make jesus a badass, have him say "fuck this shit" while on the cross, muscle the fuck off the wooden board and beat the roman soldiers with the wooden planks still nailed in his palms
  230. Aug 21 01:20:06 <Phinehas> lel
  231. Aug 21 01:20:26 <EugeneEniks> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dyzMaWaud6k/U0vtJ_abIgI/AAAAAAAAA-o/362iWi6-mKQ/s1600/137412279020.jpg
  232. Aug 21 01:20:27 <EugeneEniks> like that
  233. Aug 21 01:20:37 <alghazi> phinehas: what are your opinions of the verses of the bible which state that the father is greater than jesus (as)
  234. Aug 21 01:20:38 <EugeneEniks> instead he dies like a bitch
  235. Aug 21 01:21:07 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, this is why it is said in the Qur'an, they think they killed him, but he did not truly die; rather, he was raised up to his lord
  236. Aug 21 01:21:20 <Phinehas> The father is greater
  237. Aug 21 01:21:32 <alghazi> so then how is the "son" god
  238. Aug 21 01:21:40 <EugeneEniks> so you're muslim?
  239. Aug 21 01:21:44 <alghazi> if you're not polytheistic
  240. Aug 21 01:21:48 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, yes
  241. Aug 21 01:21:58 <EugeneEniks> lol
  242. Aug 21 01:22:02 <Phinehas> God begat Jesus
  243. Aug 21 01:22:04 <EugeneEniks> i'm rooting for the jews, nothing personal
  244. Aug 21 01:22:47 <alghazi> if you mean that literally
  245. Aug 21 01:22:56 <alghazi> you are attributing such human-like qualities and restraints unto god
  246. Aug 21 01:23:31 <alghazi> and if you don't mean that completely literally, then you could say that god begat everything
  247. Aug 21 01:23:54 <Phinehas> I mean it literally. He caused the virgin to be pregnant.
  248. Aug 21 01:24:06 <alghazi> ok
  249. Aug 21 01:24:14 <alghazi> begot; begetting.
  250. Aug 21 01:24:14 <alghazi> 1.
  251. Aug 21 01:24:14 <alghazi> (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
  252. Aug 21 01:24:30 <Phinehas> How God did that I don't know.
  253. Aug 21 01:24:30 <alghazi> if you mean this literally
  254. Aug 21 01:24:33 <alghazi> you are saying that god has dna
  255. Aug 21 01:24:36 <Phinehas> Yes
  256. Aug 21 01:24:43 <alghazi> .
  257. Aug 21 01:24:46 <Phinehas> He created our DNA.
  258. Aug 21 01:24:48 <alghazi> you are saying that god has dna???
  259. Aug 21 01:24:50 <alghazi> really??
  260. Aug 21 01:24:55 <alghazi> that doesnt mean that he himself has any
  261. Aug 21 01:25:08 <Phinehas> He put his spirit into Adam.
  262. Aug 21 01:25:15 <alghazi> so adam is god too?
  263. Aug 21 01:25:16 <alghazi> (as)
  264. Aug 21 01:25:25 <Phinehas> Adam is made as a vessel to carry that spirit.
  265. Aug 21 01:25:26 <EugeneEniks> with the islamization of europe i've went from hating jews to respecting them
  266. Aug 21 01:25:37 <Phinehas> Those who aren't white, cannot carry the spirit
  267. Aug 21 01:25:38 <alghazi> you didnt answer my question
  268. Aug 21 01:25:41 <Phinehas> they are broken cisterns.
  269. Aug 21 01:25:47 <EugeneEniks> zzz
  270. Aug 21 01:25:51 <alghazi> do you consider middle eastern people white
  271. Aug 21 01:25:56 <EugeneEniks> i've met a ton of decent non whites
  272. Aug 21 01:26:02 <alghazi> what about solomon's ethiopian wife
  273. Aug 21 01:26:03 <alghazi> (as)
  274. Aug 21 01:26:11 <EugeneEniks> solomon was just keeping it real
  275. Aug 21 01:26:13 <Phinehas> I imagine there is white people in the Middle East
  276. Aug 21 01:26:21 <alghazi> how do you define "white"
  277. Aug 21 01:26:24 <Phinehas> very few of them left
  278. Aug 21 01:26:33 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, in antiquity ethiopian basically meant black
  279. Aug 21 01:26:39 <alghazi> what is the difference between a white caucasian and non-white caucasian
  280. Aug 21 01:26:40 <alghazi> where is the line drawn
  281. Aug 21 01:26:43 <Phinehas> It was GIVEN UP to the blacks.
  282. Aug 21 01:26:51 <alghazi> wat
  283. Aug 21 01:26:57 <alghazi> ethiopia was never white
  284. Aug 21 01:27:06 <alghazi> it, to this day, is caucasian
  285. Aug 21 01:27:06 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, in Juvenal's 6th satire he even makes a joke about how it's good women get abortions so that a man won't end up with an "ethiopian son"
  286. Aug 21 01:27:08 <Phinehas> Isaiah 43:3
  287. Aug 21 01:27:25 <EugeneEniks> and juvenal was alive around 100-200 ad
  288. Aug 21 01:27:28 <Phinehas> For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
  289. Aug 21 01:27:34 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, answer me
  290. Aug 21 01:27:45 <Phinehas> Yahweh gave up those countries to the niggers.
  291. Aug 21 01:28:07 <EugeneEniks> if the bible said solomon had an ethiopian wife, she was black
  292. Aug 21 01:28:25 <EugeneEniks> i dont read the bible but knowing some history of antiquity confirms it
  293. Aug 21 01:28:52 <EugeneEniks> they prolly called all blacks ethiopians
  294. Aug 21 01:28:55 <alghazi> phinehas, first off
  295. Aug 21 01:29:10 <alghazi> egypt was never populated by hebrews in recorded history
  296. Aug 21 01:29:17 <alghazi> in the time of the pharaoh they were a minority
  297. Aug 21 01:29:18 <EugeneEniks> alghazi is right on that
  298. Aug 21 01:29:27 <alghazi> so therefore
  299. Aug 21 01:29:41 <alghazi> you cannot assume that isaiah (as) means that sudan and ethiopia were also hebrew land
  300. Aug 21 01:29:59 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, answer me
  301. Aug 21 01:30:02 <EugeneEniks> prove me wrong
  302. Aug 21 01:30:10 <Phinehas> about what?
  303. Aug 21 01:30:15 <EugeneEniks> if solomon had an ethopian wife
  304. Aug 21 01:30:20 <EugeneEniks> how was she not black?
  305. Aug 21 01:30:25 <alghazi> he says he "gave egypt as a ransom", clearly that didn't mean that the hebrews claim to the land was relinquished because such claim did not exist
  306. Aug 21 01:30:29 <EugeneEniks> if i understand the argument correctly
  307. Aug 21 01:30:54 <EugeneEniks> from my limited knowledge of history juvenal in the first and second century AD made a fucking joke about roman women fucking blacks
  308. Aug 21 01:30:55 <alghazi> in addition you're assuming that israel = anglos in that verse, which is quite ridiculous
  309. Aug 21 01:31:01 <alghazi> there are no archaeological records to support any such thing
  310. Aug 21 01:31:12 <alghazi> of anglos in africa in antiquity
  311. Aug 21 01:31:12 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, cuz christian identity comes from british israelism
  312. Aug 21 01:31:20 <EugeneEniks> which are bullshit
  313. Aug 21 01:31:27 <EugeneEniks> it's an ideology
  314. Aug 21 01:31:30 <EugeneEniks> facts don't matter
  315. Aug 21 01:31:35 <EugeneEniks> about dem feelz
  316. Aug 21 01:31:39 <EugeneEniks> that's what it is
  317. Aug 21 01:31:55 <EugeneEniks> funny
  318. Aug 21 01:31:56 <Phinehas> It's not about feels.
  319. Aug 21 01:31:58 <EugeneEniks> how i'm siding with a muslim
  320. Aug 21 01:32:01 <EugeneEniks> against my friend
  321. Aug 21 01:32:01 <EugeneEniks> lol
  322. Aug 21 01:32:04 <EugeneEniks> strange days
  323. Aug 21 01:32:13 <alghazi> futhermore, i fail to see where the line is drawn between white and non-white, which phinehas has also refused to address
  324. Aug 21 01:32:17 <Phinehas> Because even if I am not pure, it doesn't change the truth
  325. Aug 21 01:32:17 <alghazi> ethiopians are caucasian
  326. Aug 21 01:32:21 <alghazi> yemenis are caucasian
  327. Aug 21 01:32:24 <alghazi> syrians are caucasian
  328. Aug 21 01:32:29 <alghazi> nords are caucasian
  329. Aug 21 01:32:31 <alghazi> berbers are caucasian
  330. Aug 21 01:32:33 <alghazi> where is the line
  331. Aug 21 01:32:41 <Phinehas> I cannot draw that.
  332. Aug 21 01:32:45 <Phinehas> I am not God
  333. Aug 21 01:32:47 <alghazi> is there a line?
  334. Aug 21 01:32:48 <EugeneEniks> lol
  335. Aug 21 01:32:51 <Phinehas> It is the parable of the wheat and tares
  336. Aug 21 01:32:54 <Phinehas> Do you know of it?
  337. Aug 21 01:32:54 <EugeneEniks> ethopians are caucasians?
  338. Aug 21 01:32:59 <EugeneEniks> whaaaaat?
  339. Aug 21 01:33:06 <alghazi> yes, eugeneeniks, their skull structure is caucasian, somalis too, google it
  340. Aug 21 01:33:12 <alghazi> phinehas, no
  341. Aug 21 01:33:26 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, but what about in antiquity?
  342. Aug 21 01:33:26 <Phinehas> 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
  343. Aug 21 01:33:26 <Phinehas> 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
  344. Aug 21 01:33:26 <Phinehas> 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
  345. Aug 21 01:33:26 <Phinehas> 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
  346. Aug 21 01:33:58 <Phinehas> The children of the wicked one are the offspring of Cain.
  347. Aug 21 01:33:59 <alghazi> im not sure about that, eugeneeniks, but i have no reason to believe otherwise
  348. Aug 21 01:34:23 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, i'll take your word for it, but it doesn't prove modern ethiopians are as similar as ethiopians in antiquity
  349. Aug 21 01:34:32 <alghazi> where did they come from then?
  350. Aug 21 01:34:36 <Phinehas> I don't know that much about it
  351. Aug 21 01:34:36 <EugeneEniks> because it seems to be in antiquity all blacks were "ethiopians"
  352. Aug 21 01:34:38 <alghazi> phinehas, i cannot believe this
  353. Aug 21 01:34:41 <alghazi> you are taking a parable literally
  354. Aug 21 01:34:56 <Phinehas> That is the interpretation of the Parable
  355. Aug 21 01:35:03 <Phinehas> the Parable if before it
  356. Aug 21 01:35:08 <alghazi> my interpretation is different
  357. Aug 21 01:35:09 <alghazi> what now
  358. Aug 21 01:35:27 <Phinehas> while you're wrong
  359. Aug 21 01:35:28 <EugeneEniks> ok alghazi doing google searches
  360. Aug 21 01:35:29 <EugeneEniks> http://www.tadias.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Kenenisa_cover.jpeg
  361. Aug 21 01:35:36 <EugeneEniks> that guy i can understand being called "caucasian"
  362. Aug 21 01:35:41 <EugeneEniks> i wouldn't call him white per se
  363. Aug 21 01:35:49 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, my point is
  364. Aug 21 01:35:49 <EugeneEniks> i'm not a white supremacist either, just saying
  365. Aug 21 01:35:52 <alghazi> all these people are caucasian
  366. Aug 21 01:35:54 <alghazi> where is the line drawn
  367. Aug 21 01:35:58 <alghazi> bashar al assad for example is white
  368. Aug 21 01:36:09 <alghazi> in terms of complexion and features
  369. Aug 21 01:36:22 <EugeneEniks> middle east is very mixed
  370. Aug 21 01:36:23 <alghazi> however there are other syrians that are more brown-ish, but still retain the same skeletal structure and such
  371. Aug 21 01:36:34 <alghazi> and are clearly of the same ethnicity
  372. Aug 21 01:36:42 <alghazi> the line cannot be drawn
  373. Aug 21 01:36:44 <alghazi> there is no line
  374. Aug 21 01:36:47 <alghazi> there is only a spectrum
  375. Aug 21 01:36:58 <EugeneEniks> i agree it's only a spectrum
  376. Aug 21 01:37:00 <EugeneEniks> however
  377. Aug 21 01:37:12 <EugeneEniks> still huge differences in that spectrum
  378. Aug 21 01:37:20 <alghazi> not so much
  379. Aug 21 01:37:20 <EugeneEniks> it's just absurdly hard to define it
  380. Aug 21 01:37:30 <alghazi> it's like comparing a lighter red to a darker red
  381. Aug 21 01:37:37 <alghazi> it's defined by caucasian skeletal structure
  382. Aug 21 01:37:40 <EugeneEniks> well bashar looks way different than that ethiopian guy i posted
  383. Aug 21 01:37:54 <EugeneEniks> dunno if i'd rely solely on skeletal structure
  384. Aug 21 01:37:57 <alghazi> still same skull type
  385. Aug 21 01:38:01 <alghazi> that's how races are defined
  386. Aug 21 01:38:03 <EugeneEniks> i mean similiarities DO help
  387. Aug 21 01:38:08 <EugeneEniks> i disagree
  388. Aug 21 01:38:15 <alghazi> how do you disagree
  389. Aug 21 01:38:20 <alghazi> the races are as follows, by skull type
  390. Aug 21 01:38:37 <EugeneEniks> but really, races in humanity are an abstraction. more interested in specific ethnicity. when asked for my race i always answer polish for example
  391. Aug 21 01:38:44 <alghazi> caucasoid, negroid, mongoloid, australoid, khoi-san
  392. Aug 21 01:38:54 <EugeneEniks> according to who? coon?
  393. Aug 21 01:39:12 <EugeneEniks> i don't fully buy that
  394. Aug 21 01:39:16 <alghazi> according to skeletal structure
  395. Aug 21 01:39:25 <alghazi> those are the five basic skull types
  396. Aug 21 01:39:58 <EugeneEniks> do you have some way of proving skeletal structure is 100% about race? because i can tell you right away that bashar has less black genes than that ethipian i sent you
  397. Aug 21 01:40:13 <EugeneEniks> but that ethopian clearly has some "caucasian" genes with black as well, y'know?
  398. Aug 21 01:40:57 <alghazi> the pesence of a gene for black skin does not mean that such gene is negroid-exclusive
  399. Aug 21 01:40:57 <EugeneEniks> honestly IMO i think human races differ way more than just fuckign skeletal structure. if anything that just points to a genetic similarity, but not the whole fucking story
  400. Aug 21 01:41:12 <EugeneEniks> no but he's ethopian it's common sense where the pigmentation comes from
  401. Aug 21 01:41:13 <alghazi> the skeletal structure is the only way to draw a boundary
  402. Aug 21 01:41:20 <EugeneEniks> a simplification
  403. Aug 21 01:41:27 <alghazi> put it this way
  404. Aug 21 01:41:31 <alghazi> race is a spectrum, yes
  405. Aug 21 01:42:07 <EugeneEniks> right, but genetics is complex too
  406. Aug 21 01:42:18 <alghazi> look at it like colors
  407. Aug 21 01:42:20 <alghazi> actual colors
  408. Aug 21 01:42:37 <alghazi> like, by wavelength
  409. Aug 21 01:42:37 <Phinehas> all this chat is racist and shouldn't be discussed
  410. Aug 21 01:42:42 <EugeneEniks> yeah i knew you were gonna say that
  411. Aug 21 01:42:45 <EugeneEniks> and i was thinking
  412. Aug 21 01:42:49 <EugeneEniks> waaaaay more complex
  413. Aug 21 01:42:54 <EugeneEniks> like
  414. Aug 21 01:43:01 <alghazi> there is a lot of variation between light blue and dark blue
  415. Aug 21 01:43:10 <alghazi> but you can tell when its not blue anymore
  416. Aug 21 01:43:22 <alghazi> within that range, even though there's differences, it's still blue
  417. Aug 21 01:43:25 <EugeneEniks> not always
  418. Aug 21 01:43:33 <alghazi> how
  419. Aug 21 01:43:42 <EugeneEniks> there's a point where it hits turquoise and you're kinda scratching your chin
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  421. Aug 21 01:44:10 <EugeneEniks> i think the idea of a "caucasian" race is shit
  422. Aug 21 01:44:48 <alghazi> then that would be mixed-race people
  423. Aug 21 01:45:03 <EugeneEniks> well in the middle east and etc they're mixed as fuck
  424. Aug 21 01:45:04 <alghazi> the idea of a caucasian race is rooted in science
  425. Aug 21 01:45:06 <alghazi> not really
  426. Aug 21 01:45:18 <apeaholicsanonymous> i guess the happening is officially over?
  427. Aug 21 01:45:19 <EugeneEniks> yes, after the silk road that area became mixed as fuck
  428. Aug 21 01:45:27 <apeaholicsanonymous> *chimpinning
  429. Aug 21 01:45:34 <Phinehas> didn't see any this evening
  430. Aug 21 01:45:47 <EugeneEniks> did the rioters give up?
  431. Aug 21 01:45:48 <alghazi> i dont have the graphs but i can tell you that there's average ~5% non-caucasian admixture in your average middle eastern
  432. Aug 21 01:46:10 <EugeneEniks> caucasian is a really fucking broad term to begin with
  433. Aug 21 01:46:21 <alghazi> that doesnt mean it doesnt exist
  434. Aug 21 01:46:35 <EugeneEniks> it's an abstraction
  435. Aug 21 01:46:45 <alghazi> also the silk road had very little influence on middle eastern genetics
  436. Aug 21 01:46:46 <EugeneEniks> based on what, skeletal structure?
  437. Aug 21 01:46:59 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, if people are traveling places they're also fucking in those places
  438. Aug 21 01:47:09 <alghazi> i didnt say no influence
  439. Aug 21 01:47:12 <alghazi> i said very little
  440. Aug 21 01:47:19 <alghazi> and you will find no evidence to the contrary
  441. Aug 21 01:47:34 <alghazi> the only place where there is any notable mongoloid admixture in the middle east is turkey
  442. Aug 21 01:47:37 <alghazi> but that's because of turkic migrations
  443. Aug 21 01:47:44 <alghazi> which are also the reason why "white" people were bred out of central asia
  444. Aug 21 01:47:50 <alghazi> turkic hoardes, not silk road trade
  445. Aug 21 01:48:05 <alghazi> by that logic then china has also been subject to caucasian admixture, when it clearly has not
  446. Aug 21 01:48:23 <EugeneEniks> you might be right
  447. Aug 21 01:48:24 <EugeneEniks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayum_mummy_portraits
  448. Aug 21 01:48:38 <EugeneEniks> btw that's a fucking great wiki page to send to black nationalists who try to claim egypt
  449. Aug 21 01:48:50 <apeaholicsanonymous> not sure if you guys are /pol/, but here is a good thread of a black cnn reporter getting btfo
  450. Aug 21 01:48:58 <apeaholicsanonymous> http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/34377389/don-lemon-anybody-can-buy-an-automatic-weapon-in
  451. Aug 21 01:49:02 <Phinehas> what is /pol/?
  452. Aug 21 01:49:15 <apeaholicsanonymous> the greatest place on earth
  453. Aug 21 01:49:18 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, though those portraits seem to have a bit of a semitic influence
  454. Aug 21 01:49:28 <Phinehas> this is a reddit subreddit
  455. Aug 21 01:49:34 <EugeneEniks> e.g. the people look somewhat semitic
  456. Aug 21 01:49:37 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, black nationalists will just claim that those are ptolemaics
  457. Aug 21 01:49:44 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, lol
  458. Aug 21 01:49:54 <alghazi> also egyptians were an afro-asiatic isolate
  459. Aug 21 01:49:55 <EugeneEniks> i found black nationalist material at work
  460. Aug 21 01:50:00 <Phinehas> jk, we go to /pol/
  461. Aug 21 01:50:10 <EugeneEniks> that claimed blacks and indian dravidians were the same
  462. Aug 21 01:50:11 <alghazi> ethiopians and somalis however are semitic
  463. Aug 21 01:50:16 <alghazi> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
  464. Aug 21 01:50:19 <EugeneEniks> right
  465. Aug 21 01:50:24 <EugeneEniks> i laughed so hard
  466. Aug 21 01:50:44 <alghazi> also my bad
  467. Aug 21 01:50:44 <Phinehas> can I paste something?
  468. Aug 21 01:50:46 <alghazi> somali is a cushitic language
  469. Aug 21 01:50:52 <alghazi> ethiopian languages are semitic tho
  470. Aug 21 01:50:53 <Phinehas> On Ethiopia
  471. Aug 21 01:50:55 <alghazi> ok
  472. Aug 21 01:51:01 <Phinehas> To cite another source which might clear up at least some of the confusion on this subject, I will go to the Tyndale Bible Dictionary with editors Walter A. Elwell and Philip W. Comfort on page 450, under the topic “Ethiopia” and subtopic “Location”: “... At that time it [the Egyptian loanword Cush] was used of [Ethiopia] a small area between the second and third cataracts of the Nile. Later on, during the [Egyptian] N
  473. Aug 21 01:51:01 <Phinehas> ew Kingdom period (c. 1570-1160 BC), it was applied to a larger area that extended some distance to the south. This broader designation corresponds geographically to the modern lands of Nubia and northern Sudan. It is misleading to think that the Ethiopia of Scripture is the same territory as the Ethiopia of modern times, which in an earlier period was called Abyssinia. The name Ethiopia was of Greek origin, and according to som
  474. Aug 21 01:51:01 <EugeneEniks> is ethiopian a semitic language?
  475. Aug 21 01:51:02 <Phinehas> e interpreters means ‘burnt-faced’ (cf. Acts 8:27). This tradition has been perpetuated by the Arabic name Beled es Sudan, or ‘land of the blacks,’ from which the designation Sudan comes.”
  476. Aug 21 01:51:07 <EugeneEniks> stfu Phinehas
  477. Aug 21 01:51:14 <EugeneEniks> is ethiopian semitic?
  478. Aug 21 01:51:18 <EugeneEniks> language?
  479. Aug 21 01:51:34 <EugeneEniks> you might be partially right
  480. Aug 21 01:51:42 <alghazi> ethiopian is semitic yes
  481. Aug 21 01:51:45 <EugeneEniks> still gonna say modern ethiopians partially black
  482. Aug 21 01:51:57 <alghazi> phinehas, that doesnt matter, nubians still negro lmao
  483. Aug 21 01:52:18 <alghazi> actually
  484. Aug 21 01:52:22 <alghazi> nubians are more negro than ethiopians
  485. Aug 21 01:52:24 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, but ethiopians had the most contact with the rest of the world than other blacks throughout history so that prolly lead to admixture too
  486. Aug 21 01:52:26 <alghazi> they have the negroid skull structure
  487. Aug 21 01:52:38 <alghazi> eugeneeniks, there's definitely been a fair deal of admixture between ethiopia and yemen
  488. Aug 21 01:53:25 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, the thing is i won't buy the fact that ethiopians are not part black
  489. Aug 21 01:53:30 <alghazi> though i disagree, up until the middle ages nubia had more foreign contact than ethiopia, at least on a recorded and formal basis
  490. Aug 21 01:53:43 <EugeneEniks> alghazi, you sure? i thought it was just egypt
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  492. Aug 21 01:53:48 <alghazi> there's definitely a degree of admixture
  493. Aug 21 01:53:58 <EugeneEniks> i don't hate blacks i just hate niggers
  494. Aug 21 01:54:03 <alghazi> what about egypt?
  495. Aug 21 01:54:05 <EugeneEniks> fwi
  496. Aug 21 01:54:16 <alghazi> nubia was a rival of egypt and they were both under the same government for very long periods of time
  497. Aug 21 01:54:17 <Phinehas> I hate blacks, even the good ones.
  498. Aug 21 01:54:21 <EugeneEniks> oh, I know nubians and egyptians had relations (trade and political)
  499. Aug 21 01:54:25 <alghazi> what a good christian you are phinehas
  500. Aug 21 01:54:37 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, stop trying to be shocking
  501. Aug 21 01:54:41 <Phinehas> I don't like Satan's creation, sorry
  502. Aug 21 01:54:48 <Phinehas> I am not trying to be shocking.
  503. Aug 21 01:54:49 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, you just do this for laughs
  504. Aug 21 01:54:50 <alghazi> are you implying satan can create
  505. Aug 21 01:54:53 <Phinehas> I don't like blacks...
  506. Aug 21 01:54:55 <alghazi> this is polytheism
  507. Aug 21 01:55:06 <EugeneEniks> man
  508. Aug 21 01:55:08 <Phinehas> Satan had sex with Eve in the garden of Eden
  509. Aug 21 01:55:11 <Phinehas> and created Cain
  510. Aug 21 01:55:15 <EugeneEniks> lmao
  511. Aug 21 01:55:17 <alghazi> i already proved you wrong on a scriptural basis
  512. Aug 21 01:55:20 <Phinehas> next you will tell me the flood was global
  513. Aug 21 01:55:27 <EugeneEniks> wtf happened to you Phinehas
  514. Aug 21 01:55:33 <EugeneEniks> you were an atheist years ago
  515. Aug 21 01:55:33 <alghazi> non sequitiur
  516. Aug 21 01:55:36 <Phinehas> 1 john 3:12
  517. Aug 21 01:55:52 <alghazi> oh
  518. Aug 21 01:55:52 <alghazi> my
  519. Aug 21 01:55:54 <alghazi> god
  520. Aug 21 01:55:54 <Phinehas> Genesis 5:5
  521. Aug 21 01:56:00 <alghazi> Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.
  522. Aug 21 01:56:07 <alghazi> you
  523. Aug 21 01:56:08 <alghazi> think
  524. Aug 21 01:56:08 <alghazi> this
  525. Aug 21 01:56:09 <alghazi> literally
  526. Aug 21 01:56:10 <alghazi> means
  527. Aug 21 01:56:11 <alghazi> he
  528. Aug 21 01:56:12 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas has an autistic son so maybe it's about the apple falling form the tree thing going on
  529. Aug 21 01:56:16 <alghazi> wow
  530. Aug 21 01:56:17 <alghazi> i have no words
  531. Aug 21 01:56:24 <alghazi> it even goes on to say that it was because of his actions
  532. Aug 21 01:56:26 <alghazi> no mention of bloodline
  533. Aug 21 01:56:31 <EugeneEniks> sorry Phinehas
  534. Aug 21 01:56:33 <Phinehas> It is literal
  535. Aug 21 01:56:34 <EugeneEniks> alghazi wins
  536. Aug 21 01:56:39 <alghazi> this is genesis 5:5
  537. Aug 21 01:56:39 <alghazi> Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.
  538. Aug 21 01:56:42 <alghazi> what are you talking about
  539. Aug 21 01:56:51 <Phinehas> It was 5:4
  540. Aug 21 01:57:00 <Phinehas> Who does it say was Adam's first son?
  541. Aug 21 01:57:05 <EugeneEniks> i'm not entirerally convinced Phinehas isn't trolling
  542. Aug 21 01:57:05 <alghazi> 1Adam knew his wife Eve intimately, and she conceived and bore Cain. She said, "I have had a male child with the LORD's help."a[›]
  543. Aug 21 01:57:08 <alghazi> genesis 4:1
  544. Aug 21 01:57:09 <EugeneEniks> i want to believe
  545. Aug 21 01:57:28 <alghazi> After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
  546. Aug 21 01:57:31 <alghazi> that's 5:4
  547. Aug 21 01:57:33 <alghazi> no mention of who's first
  548. Aug 21 01:57:34 <EugeneEniks> k i'm gonna play dota now, fun talking to you alghazi
  549. Aug 21 01:57:35 <alghazi> just after seth
  550. Aug 21 01:57:40 <alghazi> peace eugeneeniks
  551. Aug 21 01:57:54 <Phinehas> 3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
  552. Aug 21 01:58:10 <alghazi> that doesnt mean that seth was first
  553. Aug 21 01:58:18 <Phinehas> why not Cain?
  554. Aug 21 01:58:20 <alghazi> in fact cain and abel were mentioned prior to seth, in the previous chapter
  555. Aug 21 01:58:40 <alghazi> you're injecting words and ideas into the scripture that simply are not there
  556. Aug 21 01:58:57 <Phinehas> They are there, it is written plainly.
  557. Aug 21 01:59:14 <alghazi> Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him."
  558. Aug 21 01:59:24 <Phinehas> The Targum Pseudo-Jonathan even confirms it
  559. Aug 21 02:00:19 <alghazi> i have no idea what that is
  560. Aug 21 02:00:29 <alghazi> and dont care for you to tell me things are "written plainly" when they are not written at all
  561. Aug 21 02:00:36 <alghazi> there is nowhere in the bible that says that cain is the son of satan
  562. Aug 21 02:00:50 <alghazi> nowhere says he was conceived in the garden of eden
  563. Aug 21 02:00:51 <Phinehas> 1 John 3:12
  564. Aug 21 02:00:57 <alghazi> Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.
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  566. Aug 21 02:01:03 <alghazi> that does not mean he was the son of satan
  567. Aug 21 02:01:10 <alghazi> i already quoted another verse to you that clearly says he was the son of adam (as)
  568. Aug 21 02:01:18 <alghazi> 1Adam knew his wife Eve intimately, and she conceived and bore Cain. She said, "I have had a male child with the LORD's help."a[›]
  569. Aug 21 02:01:20 <Phinehas> This is called Dual Seedline Christianity
  570. Aug 21 02:01:28 <alghazi> it's called made-up bullshit
  571. Aug 21 02:01:37 <Phinehas> There is a literally seedline of Satan on earth
  572. Aug 21 02:01:54 <alghazi> lol ok
  573. Aug 21 02:02:28 <alghazi> there is no basis in the bible for your claims
  574. Aug 21 02:02:30 <alghazi> im done here
  575. Aug 21 02:02:32 <alghazi> have a nice evening
  576. Aug 21 02:03:02 <EugeneEniks> Phinehas, you are infected by ideology
  577. Aug 21 02:03:08 <EugeneEniks> way badly man
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  580. Phinehas emoquit #chimpire shortly after the debate ended and never returned.
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  582.  
  583. Oct 09 00:13:01 <Suspook> im fine with everyone in here now
  584. Oct 09 00:13:11 <EugeneIchs> so i can't use a terminal multiplexer to access irc from my phone from my computer
  585. Oct 09 00:13:17 <Suspook> alghazi is by far the most wildest
  586. Oct 09 00:13:20 <EugeneIchs> lol
  587. Oct 09 00:13:21 <EugeneIchs> yeah
  588. Oct 09 00:13:30 <Suspook> but he's no fed
  589. Oct 09 00:13:32 <EugeneIchs> he destroyed david in an argument
  590. Oct 09 00:13:36 <EugeneIchs> you remmeber david
  591. Oct 09 00:13:39 <dintdonuffin> Algazi is the coolest muslim I have ever met.
  592. Oct 09 00:13:40 <Suspook> david is a fucking weirdo
  593. Oct 09 00:13:44 <EugeneIchs> right
  594. Oct 09 00:13:50 <alghazi> i dont know if wesley is a fed
  595. Oct 09 00:13:51 <EugeneIchs> most of my net buddies suck ass
  596. Oct 09 00:13:52 <alghazi> but he's definitely a faggot
  597. Oct 09 00:13:59 <EugeneIchs> over time
  598. Oct 09 00:14:01 <alghazi> david is the christian identity dude?
  599. Oct 09 00:14:01 <EugeneIchs> they become fail
  600. Oct 09 00:14:03 <Suspook> alghazi: good to know
  601. Oct 09 00:14:06 <EugeneIchs> alghazi, yeah lol
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