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Styx vs Ryan

Jan 7th, 2018
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  1. Ryan did give answers for how the ethnostate could be peacefully achieved several times. Styx admitted mass immigration is just an abstract ethnic cleanse. And I think no state can be formed on truly libertarian basis, just as the New Diverse America is formed by destroying property values by bringing in fecund socialists from the global south. Pick your poison I guess.
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  3. I dont know what civic identity Styx has in mind which will bridge Whites, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics. But it is something he should probably have an answer for. It reminds me of conservative attempts to get the black vote which have been fruitless. You can say culture trumps race, but race divides cultures and no way of bridging this is known. Styx is not being held to the standards he has for ethnonationalists.
  4. Becoming the airport of the world because we dont care about race will destabilize our nation, being swallowed by fast-breeders will as well and very violently, but stopping these things would be necessarily violent and also destabilize the nation? I think I know what the conceptual issue here was. Beyond the fact that I think Styx finds racial differences trivial.
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  6. As mentioned previously Styx has a lot of incredulity toward the ethnostate, but has probably no idea what civic identity bridges whites, blacks, hispanics, and asians. It's "culture" but nobody explains the culture or how to convert others. Moreover, he doesnt know the definition of ethnostate and as such it's easy to see why he thinks it must be created violently. Wilmot Robertson originated the term and every subsequent definition of ethnostate has no demand for purity but merely preserving continuity. So incentives to increase white proportions and exclusionary immigration alone would make the USA an ethnostate. Hence why we call Japan and Israel ethnostates, neither are pure but both fit this bill. If monolithic ethnic supermajorities were the deciding factor Germany would be an ethnostate because it's still overwhelmingly German. But by this better and more accurate definition Germany isnt because it isnt preserving their demography
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  8. In fact, a lot of Styx's ideas make him sort of a de facto ethnonationalist. The compromise here is hardly elusive.
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  10. Also it is clear from the superchats people who question why race matters (as opposed to individualism) dont grasp the empirical importance of race or groups in general. They idolize e-thinkers who do the same and constantly try to escape this debate by changing the goalposts or topic for debate. They can't defend their incomplete view of humanity so they try to shield their ignorance from being directly confronted.
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