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- IMPEACH OBAMA TODAY!!!
- [Ekko]
- Greetings Mojxax, #politics is currently moderated. If you wait a minute without changing your nickname, you can take part in the discussion (mode +v).
- @pilgrim`
- I blame Bush
- +[pack]
- lol
- Mojxax
- Why should we impeach Obama?
- == Cannot send to channel
- ⓘ Ekko set mode +v Mojxax
- +Mojxax
- Why should we impeach Obama?
- +Swigert
- pilgrim: well of course
- why the heck not
- ⓘ VonMises set mode -b *!*@107.161.*
- +Swigert
- but we can do the next best thing: reject Hillary
- +Ionizer
- obama fails to recognize the biggest attack since 9/11
- why shouldnt we
- +synaptic
- mojxax, illegal war in libya and violations of article iv, section 4
- violations of the administrative procedure act
- +Swigert
- not illegal
- +synaptic
- which part
- +Mojxax
- synaptic: did Obama claim the AUMF was the legal basis for the military actions in Libya?
- +synaptic
- no
- he supported the terrorists
- +Mojxax
- How did Obama support the terrorists in Libya?
- +Swigert
- was it needed? The president can authorize military action for up to 90 days without Congressional approval
- +[pack]
- pav, none
- +Mojxax
- Wikipedia is not citing the AUMF for US military action in Libya.
- +synaptic
- swigert, only under very specific circumstances
- +Mojxax
- Apparently validating your claim on that point
- +Willpa
- The War Powers Act
- +synaptic
- The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
- ^ Section 2(c) of the War Powers Act
- +Mojxax
- I would agree none of those conditions were met by Libya
- @pilgrim`
- Obama is worried. damnit its Sunday! I was gong to be ont he 3rd hole. and here peopel want me to speak about ......things
- +Mojxax
- If the AUMF was not cited
- +Swigert
- not going to happen now
- +synaptic
- congress did not declare war against libya, there was no specific statutory authorization for military action in libya, and libya did not attack us
- +Mojxax
- synaptic: it does appear the Libya military involvement was illegal, then
- And I would support his impeachment on that basis
- This is a good point, however, to criticize the AUMF in general
- +Swigert
- ain't gonna happen
- +Mojxax
- As it is a serious abdication of Congress' power
- @pilgrim`
- as I said: http://pilgrimer.net/htmls/Politics/To_Trump_or_not_to_Trump.html
- +urlinfo
- ****
- +Mojxax
- Never Trump.
- +synaptic
- http://www.c-span.org/video/?298771-1/us-military-operations-libya&start=2988
- +urlinfo
- **** US Military Operations Libya | Video | C-SPAN.org
- +Mojxax
- Trump, among other offenses, as advocated a foreign policy that would include war crimes.
- If we're going to impeach the current president on violating the law, we cannot support a candidate who promises to violate the law.
- ← Moonlight has quit (Leaving...)
- @CometBaby
- Who is impeaching obama?
- +Mojxax
- synaptic: our culture has become extremely fanatical about war
- +kanoTRUMP
- Mojxax it would NOT advocate war crimes
- @CometBaby
- Except in your imagination Mojxax
- +kanoTRUMP
- you are silly
- +[pack]
- Mojxax, hitlery is constantly violating the law....so who are ya gonna vote for?
- +Mojxax
- Yes, Obama should be impeached on that basis
- But, almost every President is guilty on this front
- +kanoTRUMP
- geneva conventions do not apply to enemy combatants
- +Mojxax
- Which speaks to a bigger issue
- +kanoTRUMP
- only applies to other nations
- +Swigert
- only Congress can, but they won't. very diffcult process
- → bea has joined
- +Mojxax
- [pack]: Never Clinton, too.
- +kanoTRUMP
- it would be great if barack hussein obama got impeached
- @CometBaby
- Mojxax obama will be out of office the end of the year lol
- +Mojxax
- As she is guilty of serious crimes, including war crimes.
- @pilgrim`
- most important from that: You will not be able to marry your pet....
- ⓘ Ekko set mode +v bea
- +Mojxax
- CometBaby: I agree that his presidency ends 20 January, 2017.
- +[pack]
- Mojxax, good. We agree on that.
- +Mojxax
- Per US Constitution.
- ⓘ spdtr is now known as PlainD0rk
- +kanoTRUMP
- well, you can have sex with your pet in canada
- +Swigert
- if they couldnt get Bush, what makes you think Obama is in any danger
- +Mojxax
- [pack]: so, we are left voting for a 3rd party candidate, or not voting.
- Those are the only options.
- +kanoTRUMP
- Mojxax vote trump
- +Mojxax
- Swigert: you're discussing what is likely to happen.
- +[pack]
- Mojxax, so, whatcha gonna do?
- +Mojxax
- synaptic and I were discussing what should happen.
- ⓘ CometBaby set mode -v Mojxax
- [Ekko]
- You've been quieted for 72 hours (mode -v). Parting the channel will result in a 2 hour ban (mode +b).
- Mojxax
- [pack]: I am currently planning on voting for a 3rd party candidate.
- @CometBaby
- this guy is nuts
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