lol Gara

[4:25pm] Gara: inb4 Lauren kicks his ass.
[4:25pm] Gara: :P
[4:26pm] Alivi: lol
[4:26pm] Alivi: You won't be able to win :P
[4:27pm] Gara: What are you going to use for his modifer?
[4:27pm] Alivi: well I am assuming
[4:27pm] Alivi: he's maxed out his manipulation and occult which is what Ive rolled for his Things
[4:27pm] Alivi: he has traits
[4:28pm] Alivi: and his relic.
[4:28pm] Alivi: soooo if you want me to roll cool.
[4:28pm] Gara: Well, the thing is, all of those are buffs, essentially. Making a weapon shouldn't grant a buff with it.
[4:29pm] Alivi: He uses occult and Manipulation for any of his ice manipulation
[4:29pm] Alivi: then if he is using a weapon he uses weaponry.
[4:29pm] Alivi: Thing is ya'll use a different statting system
[4:29pm] Gara: Slightly different, so lets figure him out.
[4:30pm] Alivi: give me a second
[4:30pm] Alivi: 1d10 + Attribute + 2*Power Level1 + Misc. Bonuses/Penalties = Result
[4:30pm] Glacon: Alivi: + Attribute + 2*Power Level1 + Misc. Bonuses/Penalties = Result: 8 (1d10=8)
[4:31pm] Alivi: lol
[4:31pm] Alivi: ok
[4:31pm] Alivi: sooo this means 2 x the power level anddd w/e bonuses I happen to have?
[4:31pm] Soulless:  Alex and Bubbles gonna make their own common room
[4:31pm] Gara: Right.
[4:31pm] Soulless: with blackjack
[4:31pm] Soulless: and hookers
[4:31pm] Positronium: There's already one.
[4:31pm] Positronium: But it's secrit!
[4:31pm] AgentFlowers: Somewhere
[4:31pm] Gara: The power level could probably be 6.
[4:32pm] Soulless: They're going to make a third one
[4:32pm] Soulless: :P
[4:32pm] AgentFlowers: That weird kid who won't shut up about hookers said so
[4:32pm] Alivi: annnd so his manipulation would be 5+12+2-3 depending if he uses his relic / traits
[4:32pm] Positronium: -3?
[4:32pm] Gara: ^
[4:32pm] Positronium: Or was that a type?
[4:32pm] Alivi: 2 to 3
[4:32pm] Alivi: its a dash
[4:33pm] Positronium: Ah.
[4:33pm] Alivi: If he uses his relic its a +2
[4:33pm] Gara: Oh.
[4:33pm] Alivi: if he uses a trait is a +3
[4:33pm] Alivi: technically he does both he can get a 5
[4:33pm] Gara: Traits are +2
[4:33pm] Gara: Here.
[4:33pm] Alivi: Ah then its reversed
[4:33pm] Alivi: Sorry
[4:33pm] Gara: It isn't reversed, because Relics aren't a thing.
[4:34pm] Proto_Lost: Sweet Christ
[4:34pm] Alivi: alright so he doesn't use his relic?
[4:34pm] Gara: That would be best.
[4:35pm] Gara: At Lauren's apex, it's d10+11+12
[4:35pm] Gara: mfw +23.
[4:35pm] Alivi: why 11?
[4:35pm] Positronium: Base stats + trait
[4:35pm] Gara: Trait, Dex, Weap
[4:35pm] Alivi: ah...
[4:35pm] Gara: 5+4+2
[4:35pm] Alivi: so technically it is again....
[4:36pm] Alivi: geez...
[4:36pm] Alivi: Ya'll this is pretty messed up
[4:36pm] Positronium: ?
[4:37pm] Alivi: mmm
[4:37pm] Gara: I just don't think you should get occult+manip for combat.
[4:37pm] Alivi: why not?
[4:37pm] Gara: Maybe to the weapon
[4:37pm] Alivi: No his whole ice manipulational powers is that
[4:37pm] Alivi: whenever he does anything is always what he rolls he doesnt just create weapons he has a host of other things he does.
[4:38pm] Alivi: for those he's rolled manipulation + occult.
[4:38pm] Alivi: if he is using an weapon he made then it is what you'd roll normally for a weapon
[4:38pm] Gara: Okay, what is he rolling then?
[4:38pm] Positronium: It depends on the situation?
[4:39pm] Alivi: that's what im trying to figure out
[4:39pm] Positronium: I guess.
[4:39pm] Gara: Right
[4:39pm] Gara: Well, does he intend to make a weapon to fight, or what?
[4:39pm] Alivi: it depends on what she does
[4:40pm] Alivi: if she wants him to fight as he would normally then she needs to expect that he is going to go all out.
[4:40pm] Alivi: he can either levitate and manipulate a weapon which is still occult + manipulation or he can take it and manuever in his hands and phyiscally which becomes a weaponed roll
[4:40pm] Gara: Going all out for Lauren would mean telling him to bend over and arch his neck back.
[4:41pm] AgentFlowers: ...what?
[4:41pm] Gara: -neck+head
[4:41pm] Alivi: also...
[4:41pm] • AgentFlowers is imagining the position and still doesn't get it
[4:41pm] Alivi: not only am i having to re-stat according to your structure
[4:41pm] Alivi: but I have to max him forward.
[4:41pm] Gara: Yeah
[4:41pm] AgentFlowers: Gara I don't get it
[4:42pm] AgentFlowers: please explain?
[4:42pm] Positronium: Self inflicted neck injury.
[4:42pm] AgentFlowers: Oh
[4:42pm] Gara: Lauren has a compulsive power. She would order him it make it easier for him to slash his head off.
[4:42pm] Alivi: since 1- he is a teacher and technically he is going to be more powerful than the students and 2- this is also more in the future than the one i currently play.
[4:42pm] Positronium: Makes sense.
[4:45pm] Alivi: yea…and this poses an issue.
[4:46pm] Gara: I would just have him fight with a weapon in the hand, to make it simple.
[4:46pm] Alivi: mmm
[4:47pm] Alivi: which brings me back to the original issue
[4:47pm] Gara: Strength or Dex +Weapon.
[4:47pm] Alivi: so 10+12 (im guessing?) + bonuses ?
[4:47pm] Gara: I doubt he would add his power, because it is general ice manipulation, so wouldn't really give a benifit to a weapon either way.
[4:48pm] Positronium: Unless you're doing something to the weapon as you fight with it.
[4:48pm] Positronium: Changing shape, for example.
[4:48pm] AgentFlowers: Unless the weapon adds frost damage!
[4:48pm] Alivi: ^
[4:48pm] Positronium: :P
[4:48pm] Gara: Only we aren't doing damage.
[4:48pm] Gara: Because it's a spar.
[4:48pm] Alivi: true
[4:48pm] Gara: And if someone does damage
[4:49pm] Gara: Raine is losing his fucking job
[4:49pm] Alivi: not really.
[4:49pm] Gara: In a heart beat.
[4:49pm] Proto_Lost: He does teach survival
[4:49pm] Positronium: She /did/ ask for that.
[4:49pm] Alivi: ^
[4:49pm] Proto_Lost: I assume it'd extend to surviving combat
[4:49pm] Alivi: He teaches Survival, Technical Application as well
[4:49pm] Gara: Weapon sparring without a pack is strictly prohibited.
[4:49pm] Alivi: For Students
[4:49pm] Alivi: That is cause they arent trusted enough to weild them on their own
[4:49pm] Gara: "So, you told your students /not/ to use training backpacks."
[4:50pm] Alivi: They cannot use their powers well
[4:50pm] Gara: "And then fought them."
[4:50pm] Alivi: Gara
[4:50pm] Alivi: Raine is a teacher
[4:50pm] Alivi: he has a HUGE control over his abilities
[4:50pm] Alivi: first off
[4:50pm] Alivi: he probably would stop from landing a damaging blow
[4:50pm] AgentFlowers: Ice Katana: 1d10 slashing, 18 x2 crit, +8 frost
[4:50pm] Alivi: lol
[4:51pm] Positronium: :P
[4:51pm] Gara: Right, but Lauren couldn't, and if one person is using a backpack, so should the other.
[4:51pm] Alivi: Raine is again a teacher
[4:51pm] Gara: Because ease.
[4:51pm] Gara: Alivi, teachers bleed like anyone else.
[4:51pm] Alivi: what she thinks he will be able to slash him?
[4:51pm] Alivi: He's an Ice Elemental Blooded
[4:51pm] Gara: What?
[4:51pm] Gara: .q Lauren
[4:51pm] Glacon: Gara: [2/2] 2013-03-13 <Lauren> She slashes at his throat: 29 (d10+11+8=10)
[4:52pm] Alivi: Raine is able to make ice armor, dull the edges of her blade with ice.
[4:52pm] Alivi: Need I continue?
[4:52pm] Positronium: To be fair, she has an uncannily sharp artifact dagger.
[4:52pm] Alivi: And to be fair he can still coat it with ice.
[4:52pm] AgentFlowers: I think the first rule of sparring a teacher should be: You lose.
[4:52pm] Positronium: True.
[4:52pm] Alivi: Pretty much
[4:53pm] AgentFlowers: I mean, the teachers are presumably at the end of their power trees, and have the advantage of experience to boot
[4:53pm] Gara: Yes.
[4:53pm] Gara: Although, that isn't to say she isn't an experianced fighter, she had been training for years. Less experianced, but still more then most.
[4:54pm] AgentFlowers: So, if Lauren is ACTUALLY asking him to go all out, he should just freeze her solid and call it a lesson
[4:54pm] Gara: Right.
[4:54pm] Alivi: haha
[4:54pm] Gara: Even Nathan could kill instantly at this level.
[4:54pm] Alivi: One of Raine's most powerful attacks
[4:55pm] Alivi: is that he freezes the blood of the victim and then spikes the ice within it.
[4:55pm] Proto_Lost: Gwuh, I'm starting to feel woozy, I think I'll sleep this off...be back in a 3-4 hours or so! :D
[4:55pm] Positronium: Night
[4:55pm] Alivi: lol bye proto
[4:55pm] Alivi: <3
[4:55pm] Gara: And I am sure Raine would give her the first attack, so the first attack she does is a compulsive affect to stop fighting.
[4:55pm] Proto_Lost: Alivi: :D
[4:55pm] Gara: Bye Proto
[4:55pm] Positronium: Goodbye.
[4:55pm] AgentFlowers: Bye Proto!
[4:55pm] Alivi: lol
[4:55pm] Proto_Lost left the chat room. (Quit: Adios everybody!)
[4:56pm] Gara: d10+3+4+8+2 "Please, stop fighting me! Just, don't move!" Raine feels like moving would be a terrible idea, and just wants to stay where he is at, nomatter what.
[4:56pm] Glacon: Gara: "Please, stop fighting me! Just, don't move!" Raine feels like moving would be a terrible idea, and just wants to stay where he is at, nomatter what.: 21 (d10+3+4+8+2=4)
[4:57pm] Gara: Lauren then walks up, lightly tips the side of his neck with Inum, and walks away. An all out fight wouldn't be interesting, it would be first shot wins.
[4:58pm] AgentFlowers: I think the teachers would have learned how to resist a mental compulsion
[4:58pm] Gara: Still have to roll.
[4:58pm] Alivi: Same
[4:58pm] Alivi: But what would he roll?
[4:58pm] Alivi: A mental resistance?
[4:58pm] Gara: Yes.
[4:59pm] AgentFlowers: Mental resistance, with a bonus, maybe?
[4:59pm] Alivi: so resolve + composure and then what
[4:59pm] Alivi: at max the mental resistance is a +10
[4:59pm] AgentFlowers: Trait: Fuck you, I'm a teacher
[4:59pm] Alivi: which makes no sense
[4:59pm] Gara: Yup.
[4:59pm] Alivi: XD
[4:59pm] AgentFlowers: +100 to all rolls
[4:59pm] Alivi: that trait is a +100
[4:59pm] Alivi: XD
[4:59pm] Positronium: That's something that needs to be fixed, too.  Mind affecting things are /ridiculous/ to defend against.
[4:59pm] Gara: Yes.
[4:59pm] Alivi: well yea.
[4:59pm] Alivi: Hate saying it
[5:00pm] Positronium: 1d10+3+2+2
[5:00pm] Glacon: Positronium: 15 (1d10+3+2+2=8)
[5:00pm] Alivi: but the power scaling is something that was placed in effect by a person who didnt give a SHIT
[5:00pm] Alivi: about the RP
[5:00pm] Alivi: And I'd really like to see it gone
[5:00pm] Alivi: it makes RP cumbersome, more complex and it limits your abilities not to mention make character creation a bitch
[5:01pm] Gara: With that roll, which was a four, he would need to roll a ten.
[5:01pm] Gara: To defend against.
[5:01pm] Gara: At +10
[5:01pm] Gara: Which is /insane/
[5:01pm] Alivi: still wouldnt be enough overall you got a 21 at max he'd get a 20 am I correct?
[5:01pm] Positronium: The 10 explodes.
[5:01pm] Positronium: 1d10
[5:01pm] Glacon: Positronium: 9 (1d10=9)
[5:01pm] Alivi: true but even then you risk it
[5:02pm] Positronium: And then it's resisted.
[5:02pm] Gara: Also, degree of success.
[5:02pm] Gara: 20=21
[5:02pm] Alivi: Technically tho he could still stop her
[5:02pm] Positronium: By plugging his ears. :p
[5:02pm] Gara: He could, but it requires a 1/10 roll.
[5:02pm] Alivi: Even if they aren't fighting he wouldnt be fighting as much defending if he stands there as she walks up
[5:03pm] Gara: I would probably word it so he can take no actions until given permission.
[5:03pm] Alivi: anddddd
[5:03pm] Gara: Including speech or power use.
[5:03pm] Alivi: it probably wouldnt work
[5:03pm] Gara: It's a compulsion.
[5:03pm] Positronium: It's only level 4, right?
[5:03pm] Alivi: Hes a teacher
[5:03pm] Gara: Yes?
[5:03pm] AgentFlowers: Honestly I think it's just ridiculous for the teachers to play on the same level as the students
[5:03pm] Positronium: Standing still and waiting for the end is something that goes against /my/ moral code.  :P
[5:04pm] AgentFlowers: I mean, sure, they can roll,
[5:04pm] Alivi: they dont
[5:04pm] AgentFlowers: but the bonuses should be so astronomical that you're really just hoping they roll a 1
[5:04pm] Gara: Flowers, I am arguing this down from her having absolutely no chance. Alivi didn't intend to roll, I gather.
[5:04pm] Magnolia: teachers have level 5 evrything
[5:04pm] Gara: Only level 5?
[5:05pm] Alivi: here is the thing Gara
[5:05pm] Alivi: level 5 is the max on skill and attributes
[5:05pm] Gara: Yes.
[5:05pm] Magnolia: and a level 6 poer for every situation
[5:05pm] Magnolia: for
[5:05pm] Gara: Maggy, yes, percisely.
[5:05pm] Alivi: She doesnt have a chance
[5:05pm] Gara: They also have a +1000 trait called "Heh fuck you."
[5:05pm] AgentFlowers: So, I think the thing to do would be to try it out,
[5:05pm] Alivi: No i didnt intend to roll because you and i know I dont have Raine statted out.
[5:06pm] AgentFlowers: with that +100 Fuck You trait
[5:06pm] Alivi: XD
[5:06pm] Alivi: I roll he fails XD
[5:06pm] Gara: Right?
[5:06pm] Gara: Botch!
[5:06pm] Alivi: XD
[5:06pm] AgentFlowers: And Lauren just has to pray to every single god that he botches
[5:06pm] Gara: "Alright, well, you just lost your head, game over."
[5:06pm] Gara: Walks out.
[5:07pm] AgentFlowers: It keeps the staff on a whole other playing field,
[5:07pm] Alivi: Also Gara
[5:07pm] Gara: Right, but if they were to go all out, then she would just order him not to move or use any powers to defend himself.
[5:07pm] AgentFlowers: but presents a tiny chance for people who want to test their luck
[5:07pm] Alivi: Andddd Gara
[5:07pm] • Gara shrugs.
[5:07pm] Alivi: if they were to go all out again
[5:07pm] Alivi: at her level
[5:07pm] Magnolia: If a teacher could ever fail at any time againt any student, it would destroy the narrative
[5:07pm] Alivi: she probably cannot compel him at the level she is at
[5:08pm] Gara: I don't see why teachers would get any special immunity instantly.
[5:09pm] AgentFlowers: It could be /possible/ for a student to win a spar, but it would be a case of pure luck
[5:09pm] Soulless: heyalivi
[5:10pm] Alivi: hihi
[5:10pm] Alivi: Gara:
[5:10pm] Soulless: Do people who have nowhere else to go (eg. bubbles) able to have stuff provided for them by the school, like a phone or something
[5:10pm] Alivi: id really hope that you'd trust me enough to know that I would give her credit
[5:10pm] Alivi: yea
[5:10pm] Alivi: I mean i dunno about phones
[5:10pm] Alivi: Ill see about doing a school list/dorm furnishing/room arrangement thing
[5:11pm] AgentFlowers: 1d10+5+5+100 (FUCK YOU) Raine defends against Laurens compulsion
[5:11pm] Alivi: But i'd hope you'd understand enough to know that she wouldnt win
[5:11pm] Glacon: AgentFlowers: (FUCK YOU) Raine defends against Laurens compulsion: 120 (1d10+5+5+100=10)
[5:11pm] Alivi: XD
[5:11pm] AgentFlowers: 1d10
[5:11pm] Glacon: AgentFlowers: 3 (1d10=3)
[5:11pm] Magnolia: But Alivi, you DO gave Raine statted out :P
[5:11pm] Alivi: Raine's stats for BSAA are completely outdated and it is a page that frankly should be deleted
[5:12pm] AgentFlowers: That extra three, just for extra Fuck You action
[5:12pm] Alivi: the one for BBB is behind and using a different system
[5:12pm] Magnolia: (I know that's past Raine)
[5:12pm] Alivi: Its out of play Raine
[5:12pm] Alivi: XD
[5:12pm] Alivi: hell that one he is a doctor
[5:12pm] Alivi: XD
[5:12pm] Alivi: Not even a scout wtf
[5:12pm] Magnolia: It's a very similar system
[5:14pm] Magnolia: nearly identical :P
[5:19pm] Soulless: AgentFlowers:  permission fer Comfort? Permission for Comfort's bonding?
[5:20pm] AgentFlowers: Sure
[5:23pm] Gara: Lets just call this off for now.
[5:24pm] Positronium: Definitely for the best.