Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 17h ago, by Ratsenio to Sea Salt

I'd like an explanation for the reasons concerning my ban from FGB. Banning me because I questioned why you should be a moderator in an entirely different venue is a poor show of character.

re:Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 16h ago, by Sea Salt to Ratsenio

Your behavior was, unfortunately, not the best. In the past you'd already shown that you had been argumentative, and with the contempt you'd shown for me and your behavior in Bara, I brought it up with the mod team and we decided to nip the problem in the bud, that's all. While you might not agree with the decision, being called a 'ban baiter' and having someone unwilling to listen to reason is not exactly someone that would make a great pillar of the community.

Oh, and for the record, I have nothing against anyone in Bara. I have no intention of going out of my way to try and get someone banned. I've never even suggested it! Honestly, I've no idea where your anger came from, but you didn't exactly conduct yourself in a good manner, which is a poor show of character on your behalf.

Again, however, I have nothing against you. In fact, I still think you're a pretty cool guy with neat characters. I don't think you'll really let something like this get to you, and if you shape up in the future, I'm more than happy to uplift the ban myself, so don't worry.

re:Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 16h ago, by Ratsenio to Sea Salt

So despite not actually doing anything in FGB, I'm banned because you believe I might. That's not a valid reason for applying a ban by your rules, as I didn't break single one within the room's context. You're banning me because you want to. You say you have nothing against me, but you went out of your way to make sure I was banned for an illegitimate reason. Then you say that if I kiss up to you that you'll uplift the ban in a power game to establish dominance over me.

How about this, you uplift the ban, and apologize for acting improperly? Banning someone because they MIGHT do something wrong is not logically feasible. By that same logic you should ban everyone from FGB because they MIGHT break the rules.


re:Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 16h ago, by Sea Salt to Ratsenio

It was a preventative measure, and the difference was you had shown that you don't really care what moderators have to say, and you don't really respect them. Like I said, it wasn't just my decision. I brought the incident before other mods, it wasn't a solo mod decision. Oh, and believe me you don't need to kiss up to me. I don't really care much for it from anyone, mostly because I don't see myself as anyone better than anyone else. I'm not the dominance or power-game type, I don't lord it over others, and I have no interest in it.

Now, I am very sorry for the ban, and actually, I appreciate how forward you are. The way you carry yourself is actually very self-confident, and I kinda like that. Most people would just take it and kick themselves in the shin, but standing up to someone (not that I think you shouldn't, because quite frankly I'm glad you noted me) is actually an admirable trait. You're right, though. Perhaps I acted brashly, and perhaps you don't deserve what's been done. So, again, I'm sorry.

re:Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 16h ago, by Ratsenio to Sea Salt

So let me get this straight. I'm banned as a "preventative measure" because I am skeptical of certain mods and room owners and because of my private messages with them? Can you cite any public displays I've made or any actual attitude problems? If it has to do with calling Fumikage a liar, well he did lie. If calling a liar a liar is "disrespectful" well then what you're really saying is that mods are immune to criticism.

You say that you appreciate my forwardness, but at the end of the day, you banned me not to enforce the rules, as I have yet to a see a valid link to them, but to defend your pride. You say you don't want me to kiss up to you, but at the first sign of skepticism you consider me too dangerous to be in your room. You say you're sorry, but you haven't made any attempts to remedy what is clearly a mistake, or a very poor decision. This is why I'm skeptical of you. This is why I say you're disingenuous. Despite what you're saying, your actions clearly say otherwise. What's more it's not the first time you've done it.

If you really want to make amends, either point to me what rules I broke and show which things I said or did that caused them to be broken, or rescind the ban until I ACTUALLY do something worthy of a ban. Otherwise I know you're just saving face.

re:Regarding my ban from FGB.
Sent 2d, 16h ago, by Sea Salt to Ratsenio

Well, for starters I can name the incident where you publicly shamed shotacon / pedophiles in the Bara discord voice channel which is an opinion you're of course entitled to. The other instance was when you put a message (in the wrong channel, mind), where you called another moderator and myself a 'ban baiter,' in public, which is not exactly a good thing. Of course, you're entitled to that opinion as well, and far be it from me to take that from you! However, I don't exactly appreciate the public callout.

Again, however, I do appreciate your forwardness (and I think assertiveness is a wonderful trait and if I can be honest, it's sorta hot in the right atmosphere), and I appreciate you opening my eyes to see that I've been blinded by my own personal feelings. I have no pride to defend, I have no face to save. I carry myself at face value and that's all. I don't want you to kiss up to me and, if anything, it should be the other way around. It was a mistake, and I wouldn't say I'm dangerous. I'm as harmless as anyone else. I'm not disingenuous, because trust me I don't want to burn this bridge. We may not have spoken a lot, and we may not have RPed as much as I'd liked, but I do think I let this get out of hand.

I do want to make amends, and you're right. I have nothing to point to as far as what you've done in FGB. I want only to make things better, and with that said, I think I will try to make amends, and I will uplift the ban. I don't want to be the guy who gets defensive and makes rash decisions. So thank you for that, for bringing the issue to me and helping me understand I did something wrong. I hope you can forgive me.

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[12:13 PM] Sea Salt: I hope I've made things right. I'm sorry.
[12:17 PM] Ratsenio: We'll see. If anything it's a good first step, I appreciate the attempt regardless of what happens.
[12:18 PM] Sea Salt: Anytime. Uh, and if I may be so bold, [sub]I'm really into how you carried yourself in the notes.[/sub] [s]It's a bit weird but I love the assertiveness. I'm sorta into being spoken to like I have no power.[/s] [s][sub]Do tell me if I'm overstepping my boundaries.[/sub][/s]
[12:30 PM] Ratsenio: Hah, well you are a Sea Salt main! Perhaps later I'll put you in your place~
[12:32 PM] Sea Salt: Please do. I wasn't the best mod, and perhaps you were right. I'm not fit to be. You're a whole lot wiser, and a whole lot more assertive. If I was the one banned, you'd have left me out regardless of how much I begged and pleaded. You really are something, and I want to learn from the best.
[12:39 PM] Ratsenio: You seem to be getting off on that idea. XD
[12:40 PM] Sea Salt: I am. It's weird, I don't know how to explain it. Like I said, if I'm pushing the notion too far, let me know. The way you phrased stuff just kinda got me worked up. [sub]Like, phew.[/sub]
[01:02 PM] Ratsenio: Nah, you're relatively fine. It's a rather abrupt change of pace I admit, but hey, it's certainly flattering. Good to know that you get all worked up when I tell you how things are. XD
[01:04 PM] Sea Salt: I do, and I get that it's a bit off, but I don't know. I've always been the more submissive slash bottom type, but I never imagined someone taking the reigns outside of the character away from me would be so thrilling. So, you don't need a filter with me, I guess. Say what you want. Tell me how you feel. I can't let my emotions get the better of me again, [i]Sir[/i].
[01:15 PM] Ratsenio: You should be careful with who you say that to. But hey, if you're into it, all the better for 'ya [i]boy.[/i] I will say if you don't want to make those kinds of hard choices you should consider if being a room owner/moderator is what you really wanna do, because that's a large portion of your responsability. But I'm sure as a grown man you already know what you're going to do, unless you intend to let me "convince" you otherwise. :P