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  1. [11:09:26] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> hi everyone
  2. [11:09:35] <+mG-org> hi
  3. [11:09:43] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> im have quite a bit to say
  4. [11:09:47] <+mm2> hey
  5. [11:09:51] <+c2`del> WE LOVE YOU BOBWEAVER
  6. [11:09:55] <@wuvs> GUYS
  7. [11:09:57] <@wuvs> SHUT UP
  8. [11:09:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and i ask that everyone stays quiet until im through
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  10. [11:10:06] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i will field a few questions afterward
  11. [11:10:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> you can send them to wuvs at any time
  12. [11:10:19] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> she will filter them, though im sure they are all nice
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  17. [11:10:38] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> To preface this broad conversation about everything that happened last night
  18. [11:10:47] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> I would like to point out that there has never been an event in CS:S
  19. [11:10:56] <+zomblerz> D
  20. [11:10:56] <+zomblerz> as
  21. [11:10:57] <+zomblerz> das
  22. [11:10:57] <+zomblerz> das
  23. [11:10:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> that doesnt come without its fair share of cheating witch hunts from the community
  24. [11:11:15] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Speaking on just LANchamp experiences, from our first two tournaments
  25. [11:11:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> DaZeD from TLR was 'the most online player and most unLAN player' anyone had ever seen
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  28. [11:11:44] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Yet he showed up to LANchamp LA and dropped kids like it was work
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  31. [11:11:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And before that, Blight Canada was "the most online team in the game"
  32. [11:12:01] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> specifically COLO
  33. [11:12:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Yet when they showed up to Chicago
  34. [11:12:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> not only did Blight.CA serve up shock
  35. [11:12:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> COLO, specifically, fed it all right back to you
  36. [11:12:30] <+mG-org> LOL
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  38. [11:12:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And now we consider that squad to be some of the brightest, up and coming players in the game right now
  39. 03[11:12:38] * wuvs sets mode: -v mG-org
  40. [11:12:48] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so lets talk abuot our anticheat system, LanCHUMP
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  43. [11:12:55] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> as it obviously applies here
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  46. [11:13:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> I bring your attention back to it again
  47. [11:13:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> LanCHUMP is a SYSTEM
  48. [11:13:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we dont rely on any one method to catch cheaters
  49. [11:13:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> its a full system, using everything we have come to learn
  50. [11:13:35] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> on how we catch cheaters today
  51. [11:13:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and how we've caught cheaters in the past
  52. [11:13:55] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> The least of which is the CPL showing us that a live LAN event reveals just about everything
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  54. [11:14:09] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> or how CAL made it through so many years of success using honest demo review
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  56. [11:14:19] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we hae so many philosophies put into LANchump
  57. [11:14:36] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> little things put into it that may seem so stupid by themselves
  58. [11:14:42] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but when they all start adding up
  59. [11:14:52] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> thigns start to get revelead about a particular player
  60. [11:15:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> LanCHUMP is just a system of flags
  61. [11:15:12] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> based on tons of little bits of info we can collect
  62. [11:15:19] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> little triggers that we believe most cheaters have in common
  63. [11:15:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we simply take note of them.
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  65. [11:15:35] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i personally think the community as a whole has always had
  66. [11:15:43] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> a fantastic knack of sniffing out the cheaters within it
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  69. [11:15:54] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> lots of individuals will call cheats at the first sign of a headshot
  70. [11:16:08] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but the community as a whole has an amazing sixth sense of knowing when we're being duped
  71. [11:16:15] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so we pay attention to the community
  72. [11:16:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and how they regard certain players
  73. 03[11:16:20] * TLR|frozt[ru] is now known as BossWeaver
  74. [11:16:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i will tell you, community response is definitely a flag for our system
  75. 03[11:16:37] * menace is now known as InBobWeaverWeTrust
  76. [11:16:47] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this is why we encourage everyone to review the demos themselves
  77. [11:16:52] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> offer us your own opinions
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  80. [11:16:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we have taken those in, every one of them
  81. [11:17:08] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Now, our client.
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  85. [11:17:22] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we never intended to foll anyone that our client was as robust as that of ESEA
  86. [11:17:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> that incredible AC is what defines ESEA
  87. [11:17:33] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we do not have that luxury
  88. [11:17:39] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but our anticheat
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  90. [11:17:47] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> does exactly what we need it to do, in our system
  91. [11:17:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and as much as i dont want to discuss our anticheat in depth
  92. [11:18:09] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i will tell you that we have seen many telling things that have come across it
  93. [11:18:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and clearly we have not taken much action behind it
  94. [11:18:25] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but we have been using it to paint a better picture
  95. [11:18:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> of just how legit some players really are
  96. [11:18:35] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we use it to watch our players.
  97. [11:18:40] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> that is our intent
  98. [11:18:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we see things they do during the match
  99. [11:18:50] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> see things they dont do
  100. [11:18:54] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so think back to our first tournament
  101. [11:19:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> coupla guys come out of the internet and throw up a $10k prize
  102. [11:19:09] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and here, btw, download our sweet client
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  104. [11:19:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> how quick was everyone to assume that was a keylogger, right?
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  106. [11:19:26] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i mean, obvious is obvious
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  109. [11:19:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we were only out to get your passwerdz
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  111. 03[11:19:42] * BossWeaver is now known as TLR|frozt
  112. [11:19:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> how many of you players used that AC through the first tournament?
  113. [11:19:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> It might surprise some of you to find out just how many
  114. [11:20:07] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> So fine, you dont want to use our AC?
  115. [11:20:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We c u.
  116. [11:20:21] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And then we ask ourselves why YOU continuously do not use our AC
  117. [11:20:29] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And we compare you to people who ohave never had a problem using it, ever
  118. [11:20:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And we look at all these other little flags you bring up
  119. [11:20:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> some bigger than others
  120. [11:20:54] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we start to put together a pretty good picture of the kind of players some of you are
  121. [11:21:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so the anticheat in regards to last nights match
  122. [11:21:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we have never had problems with how we needed it to work on the backend
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  125. [11:21:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but we quickly found out we had glitches to users on the front end
  126. [11:21:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we found this out right out of the gates, in our first tournament
  127. [11:21:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> specifically, some OS will not allow it to run
  128. [11:21:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> due to faulty configuration
  129. [11:21:51] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> This is our fault.
  130. [11:21:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And something we will fix
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  132. [11:22:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And something we addressed and continued to address
  133. [11:22:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> in every single captains meeting
  134. [11:22:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> before every single match.
  135. [11:22:18] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We discuss this.
  136. [11:22:33] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And whether this guy is not using it because his OS wont let him
  137. [11:22:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> or that guy is not using it because he's just shady
  138. [11:22:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> It makes no difference to us
  139. [11:22:51] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Youre getting a major flag in our system.
  140. [11:22:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We made all this up front and clear
  141. [11:23:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> with every person in this sitation
  142. [11:23:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and made aware to every captain
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  147. [11:23:25] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> who was and was not using the AC in each captains meeting
  148. [11:23:33] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> This was also made aware in last nights captains meeting
  149. [11:23:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> So, the actual incident of last night, the dispute against trerobinson
  150. [11:23:50] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> it may shock some of you
  151. [11:24:00] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but weve had cheating concers and disputes in every LANchamp tournament so far
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  153. [11:24:07] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And we're not dumb enough to think that would never happen
  154. [11:24:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> nor that LANchamp Baltimore was going to be any exception
  155. [11:24:29] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We have handled every single dispute exactly the way our system handles it
  156. 03[11:24:32] * IWantBobWeaversBabies is now known as BobWeaversTinyPenis
  157. [11:24:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And will continue to handle it down the road
  158. [11:24:42] <+mG|moe^> I wasnt given a choice you said that tre would be allowed to play wihtout the anti cheat, i dont see how that is even allowed
  159. [11:24:45] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the only difference with last nights dispute
  160. [11:24:51] <+mG|moe^> also
  161. [11:24:54] <+mG|moe^> your anti cheat is nothing
  162. [11:24:55] <@BGamer> !set givevoice 101
  163. [11:24:56] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> irony at its finest..
  164. [11:24:57] <+mG|moe^> its 44kb
  165. [11:24:58] <+mG|moe^> of nothing
  166. [11:25:00] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> !k mg|moe
  167. [11:25:01] <+mG|moe^> i had ppl check it
  168. [11:25:02] <+BobWeaversTinyPenis> moe you're supposed to wait till after.
  169. [11:25:03] <+mG|moe^> i doesnt work
  170. [11:25:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> !k mg|moe^
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  175. [11:25:09] <+mG|moe^> ?
  176. [11:25:10] <+mG|moe^> nt
  177. [11:25:14] <+mG|moe^> but ur anti cheat is a fraud
  178. [11:25:17] <+mG|moe^> and ill expose it
  179. [11:25:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> k
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  181. [11:25:22] <+TLR|frozt> lol.
  182. [11:25:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this is very ironic
  183. [11:25:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> as i was saying
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  185. [11:25:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the only difference with last nights dispute
  186. [11:25:45] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> is the ridiculous amount of drama that stemmed directly from his accusers
  187. [11:25:50] <@wuvs> !set givevoice 101
  188. [11:26:00] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> here's a good comparison, based totally on trerobinson in this tournametn
  189. [11:26:09] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> This is the second time trerobinson has been distputed
  190. [11:26:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> he was called out by the ZOmblerz in the first round
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  192. [11:26:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> I can only imagine that the Zomblerz were as upset as mika was last night
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  194. [11:26:40] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but the actions taken by both teams were far from different
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  197. [11:26:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> The zomblerz came to us with their dispute
  198. [11:26:59] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> they had specific requests for us to pay attention to
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  201. [11:27:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> along with otehr concerns they had about the match in general
  202. [11:27:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> they then kindly gave us time to research waht we needed to
  203. [11:27:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We spent quite a bit of tiem on that
  204. [11:27:43] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and i will tell you, trerobinson did raise a good amount of flags in that Zomblerz match
  205. [11:28:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> It was, obviously, not enogh to over turn the match
  206. [11:28:14] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> those flags do carry over, however
  207. 03[11:28:18] * BobWeaversTinyPenis is now known as TheFlagRaisedByTrerobinson
  208. [11:28:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we invited the zomblerz to continue watching him
  209. [11:28:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> as their dispute against him would never close
  210. [11:28:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we will forever compile all the information we can get on trerobinson
  211. [11:28:51] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> if he cheats, we will figure him out.
  212. [11:29:01] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> The zomblerz are a respected, professional team
  213. [11:29:08] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and that instance is just one small example.
  214. [11:29:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Now, Mika.
  215. [11:29:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Starting with the captains meeting
  216. [11:29:22] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> After the discussion about teh anticheat
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  218. [11:29:29] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and how this specific player could not use the AC
  219. [11:29:35] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Mika captain mOE Assad
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  221. [11:29:42] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> announced to us that he woudl be disputing immediately if he lost
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  223. [11:29:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this was before the match started.
  224. [11:30:03] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> This was reflected by several mOE complaints while the match was actually being played
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  226. [11:30:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and then carried out within seconds of the match ending
  227. [11:30:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Yet mOE did not seek a review after the match
  228. [11:30:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> he only wanted an instant overturn
  229. [11:30:38] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so what we've got here is:
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  231. [11:30:44] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> if mOE loses, he will dispute
  232. [11:30:55] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And when moe loses, a review is unnecessary
  233. [11:31:00] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and only an instant overturn will suffice
  234. [11:31:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> If mOE does not get his way, drama ensues.
  235. 03[11:31:12] * TheFlagRaisedByTrerobinson is now known as menace
  236. [11:31:28] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Unfortunately, these are identical actions much of the community has seen from mOE in the past
  237. [11:31:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this is becoming a PATTERN.
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  239. [11:31:54] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> mOE unfortunately has a now-proven problem of 'not playing well with others'
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  241. [11:32:06] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and since the very fist moment of him arriving onto the LANchamp radar
  242. 03[11:32:07] * c2`del is now known as BOBweaverFORpresident
  243. [11:32:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this goes back to last month, when he was still in EGYPT
  244. [11:32:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> moe displayed this well-documented
  245. [11:32:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> preceding reputation'
  246. [11:32:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> of being pushyh
  247. [11:32:39] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> manipulative
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  249. [11:32:50] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and forcibly trying to bend rules to get things move to his favor
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  251. [11:32:59] <+menace> BobWeaver can we not bash a player and just get on with whatever you need to say? Sorry for the interruption.
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  254. [11:33:03] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this is something to think about
  255. 03[11:33:04] * BOBweaverFORpresident is now known as c2`del
  256. [11:33:12] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> as we watch this drama unfold last night
  257. [11:33:14] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> on the forums
  258. [11:33:18] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> in the IRC channels
  259. [11:33:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> there was a lot of very bad information that immediately surfaced
  260. [11:33:36] <@wuvs> !resync
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  268. [11:33:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and it was obvious to us that most of it
  269. [11:33:56] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> that it came from a person trying to push an agenda
  270. [11:34:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> This is all very unfortunate
  271. [11:34:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> because mOE is a very talented player
  272. [11:34:40] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Sam Devour Chamma is another one who shocked us with true colors last night
  273. [11:34:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> after having him participate in both of our first two live events
  274. [11:34:56] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> it was quite telling to see who he really was
  275. [11:35:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we remind you that attacks from these players
  276. [11:35:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> came within seconds of match end
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  278. [11:35:24] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and with no allowance for us to respond in any way
  279. 02[11:35:32] * Quits: sON (~allanhous@sachiN.user.gamesurge) (Signed off)
  280. [11:35:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> These players are not the professional types that LANchamp wishes to display
  281. [11:35:44] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And this is major egg on the face of LANchamp
  282. [11:35:52] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> to have even begun promoting them as professionals
  283. [11:36:01] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> mOE is not above this game
  284. [11:36:07] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Devour is not above this game
  285. [11:36:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so we ask the smarter lot of you
  286. 03[11:36:23] * Joins: VG-css|mikeeee (~mike@76.208.248.35)
  287. [11:36:24] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> to sift through all the manipulations and distractions
  288. [11:36:28] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> set forth by a few specific people
  289. [11:36:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> moe, devour
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  291. [11:36:39] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and other quality voices such as
  292. [11:36:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Ksharp
  293. [11:36:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> currently esea banned
  294. [11:36:48] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and Maggot
  295. [11:36:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> who is
  296. [11:36:51] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> yeah, maggot.
  297. [11:37:06] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> sift through all this and get back to the root of this problem
  298. [11:37:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Trerobinson
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  300. [11:37:16] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the bigger picture of lanchamp
  301. [11:37:21] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> is we do one tournametn at a time
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  303. [11:37:24] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> one month long
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  305. [11:37:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> if we are to ban anyone
  306. [11:37:40] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this will not be a "Three week ban" from s8 CAL Open
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  309. [11:37:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this will be a permanent fixture
  310. [11:38:07] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so, while it may be a headache for one or two players or teams for one month
  311. [11:38:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we will find cheaters
  312. [11:38:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and they will be banned forever
  313. [11:38:26] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we will never have to worry about them again.
  314. 02[11:38:27] * Quits: detox (mibbit@adsl-146-169-108.mem.bellsouth.net) (Signed off)
  315. [11:38:38] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so its worth it for us to put forth all of our efforts
  316. [11:38:43] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> into making sure.
  317. 02[11:38:50] * Quits: SourcePlayer|01 (MrT@70.90.227.110) (Signed off)
  318. [11:38:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> which includes live LAN finals to see how a player performs
  319. [11:39:01] <@wuvs> correction: ksharp = ktrain
  320. [11:39:06] <@wuvs> carry on
  321. [11:39:15] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> without those LAN finals, we wouldnt be watching DaZeD tonight.
  322. [11:39:24] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We wouldnt be watching Colo or Blight Canada in ESEA finals in Dallas
  323. [11:39:33] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> those LAN finals are the ultimate test.
  324. 03[11:39:49] * Joins: detox (mibbit@adsl-146-169-108.mem.bellsouth.net)
  325. [11:39:50] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> And its why LANchamp refuses to bend to the maniupulations fo a few specific loudmouths
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  327. [11:39:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Trerobinson will be the first to tell you
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  329. [11:40:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> he knows he is on thin ice
  330. [11:40:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> he has known it for awhile
  331. [11:40:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> now having been disputed twice in two matches
  332. [11:40:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> without running our AC
  333. [11:40:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> he has no otehr leg to stand on
  334. [11:40:43] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> than peforming at an equal measure at the Baltimore LAN finals
  335. [11:41:03] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Our AC team has found nowhere near enough evidence from last night's match to over turn anything
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  337. [11:41:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we extend our invitation to Trerobinson and the rest of Area51 to Baltiomre on july 24
  338. 02[11:41:18] * Quits: T|^ee (~n@c-76-102-52-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Read error: EOF from client)
  339. [11:41:19] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> to prove it.
  340. [11:41:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> We encourage you all to form your final opinion there.
  341. [11:42:02] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Thanks to everyone for your support.
  342. [11:42:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> if you have Qs..send them to wuvs
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  345. [11:42:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i'll address the good ones
  346. [11:42:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Someone asked why we dont partner with ESEA to use their client
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  349. [11:43:02] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i mean .. its just not that easy, is it?
  350. [11:43:07] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> esea is its own business
  351. [11:43:13] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we are our own
  352. [11:43:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we have a client that, again, does what we need it to do
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  354. [11:43:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so it hasnt been a major issue to us
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  356. [11:44:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> 'if someone gets banned, will it be just the player or the whole team'
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  358. [11:44:14] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> thats a tough call, it'll be something to address when we get there
  359. [11:44:19] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> of course the player is gone
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  362. [11:44:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> it will be a determination of how that player was rostered and whatnot
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  364. [11:45:20] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> what happens if trerob goes to lan
  365. [11:45:26] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we find he is cheating
  366. [11:45:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> thus screwing over two HQ teams
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  368. [11:45:44] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> then trerobinson steals $200
  369. [11:45:52] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> most likely breaking even on his trip
  370. [11:45:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and we dont ever hear from him again
  371. [11:45:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> ever.
  372. [11:46:01] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> it's worth it to me.
  373. [11:46:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> wuvs pointed out he's flying in from Cali
  374. [11:46:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so that's probably a pretty good loss he's taking
  375. [11:46:35] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> whats teh state of devour and moe
  376. [11:46:48] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> tough one
  377. [11:46:55] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i talked about professionalism
  378. [11:46:59] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we have had three tournaments
  379. [11:47:02] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> with 16 teams each
  380. [11:47:10] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and id say 14 of them have been absolute pleasures to deal with
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  382. [11:47:29] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> its extremely frustrating to deal with those two teams
  383. [11:47:42] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and its confusing how certain players dont get things through their skull
  384. [11:48:03] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> moe and devour have some good repair work to do if they want to continue in LANchamp
  385. [11:48:08] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and if not
  386. [11:48:23] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we encourage them to pursue their pro eSports careers elsewhere
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  388. [11:48:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> but we're not going to promote action like that any further.
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  391. [11:49:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> Why has the client not been fixed and why are players being played allowed without running it
  392. [11:49:32] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> two parts
  393. [11:49:42] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the players were allowed to play
  394. 03[11:49:43] * Parts: c2`del (~me@ez5del.user.gamesurge)
  395. [11:49:51] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> because we felt that was a problem on our end
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  397. [11:49:57] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and, as discussed before
  398. 02[11:50:03] * Quits: c0mpulsive (~c0mpulsiv@c0mpulsive2222.user.gamesurge) (Read error: EOF from client)
  399. [11:50:06] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the AC was not our sole method of AC
  400. [11:50:08] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> er
  401. [11:50:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> catching cheaters
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  404. [11:50:41] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so, as long as the players themselves were understanding that not using the AC was actually hurting them in the long run
  405. [11:50:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we were okay to let them play
  406. [11:51:05] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> this is why trerob is going to be overanalyzed in Baltimore.
  407. [11:51:11] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> probably not just by us
  408. [11:51:17] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> the client being fixed
  409. [11:51:24] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> obviously something we set out to do immediately
  410. [11:51:28] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> took us a while
  411. [11:51:30] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> we are small
  412. [11:51:33] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> missed a few deadlines
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  415. [11:51:39] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and wow, isnt this ironic
  416. [11:51:45] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> our AC came to us today
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  418. [11:51:47] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> all shiny and new
  419. [11:51:49] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> %^$*@ &#$*(@O *(
  420. [11:51:56] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> so TLR and SP will have it tonight
  421. [11:52:04] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> and all future LANchamp events will have it
  422. 03[11:52:27] * Parts: l0g (l0g@l0g.user.gamesurge)
  423. [11:52:27] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> i think we're good here..
  424. [11:52:31] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> got a match in five minutes
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  426. [11:52:34] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> invite you all to watch
  427. [11:52:37] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> should be a great one
  428. [11:52:46] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> thanks for all your support
  429. 02[11:52:50] * Quits: InF^ (~chatzilla@208.100.158.38) (Signed off)
  430. [11:52:54] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> LANchamp is okay.
  431. [11:52:58] <@BobWeaver`LANchamp> thx
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