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Dem' Philosophies with BS_Lewis

Oct 2nd, 2017
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  16. sardaukar is a known member of Antifa.
  17. +BS_Lewis
  18. What's wrong with Lords of the Edge?
  19. +NigelShort
  20. All day I've been working on this paper as to why it's justified to punch Nazis.
  21. +BS_Lewis
  22. It's justified when they are a threat, not when they're less than 0.001% of the population
  23. and have no power
  24. We don't condone violence against minorities remember, only the majority
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  27. 0.001%?
  28. There are only a few dozen Nazis in the entire country.
  29. +BS_Lewis
  30. I don't condone vigilantism. Unless its an extreme circumstance
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  33. In a speech given in Kentucky, Vanguard America leader Dillon Irizarry said he counted at least 200 members in 20 different states. The KKK itself claims it has “between 5,000 and 8,000 members nationwide.”
  34. 0.001% is 3200.
  35. Wrong again!
  36. +BS_Lewis
  37. If the Nazi is rounding people up to kill them, punching them is okay.
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  39. Go join Momma.
  40. Data from the Southern Poverty Law Center suggests the number of hate groups is currently near the country’s all-time recorded high, in 2011. The SPLC reports that as of 2016, there are 917 active groups. (That’s 100 fewer than the 1,108 groups reported in 2011.) The SPLC’s hate map identifies groups by tracking their publications and websites. Of those 917, more than 90 are neo-Nazi groups. California has the highest number with 79, followed by Florida with 63 and Texas with 55.
  41. BS_Lewis: Are you a Nazi. Is that what's going on here.
  42. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-neo-nazi-support-american-public-charlottesvill...
  43. Nine per cent of Americans say holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views is acceptable, according to a new poll.
  44. +BS_Lewis
  45. Are these from the same pollsters who said Clinton had the presidency in the bag
  46. +NigelShort
  47. You're uneducated about that, too?!
  48. It's so many.
  49. As far back as 2016 Mar, Clinton was ahead in the polls ~2-3%.
  50. Clinton won the national vote by 2.8%.
  51. On election night, 538 gave Trump a 30% chance of winning.
  52. On election night, NYT gave Trump an 18% chance of winning.
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  54. +NigelShort
  55. You bought into the Putin post-modernist borne notion that all scientific polling is invalid.
  56. I bet you didn't realized you were propagandized in that belief.
  57. I can give you a treatise on "Putin post-modernist", too.
  58. As those will likely appear to be trigger words for you.
  59. +BS_Lewis
  60. NigelShort: You don't know what I'm buying into. Your fallacy: Mind reading form of straw man. You will be ignored for 5 minutes for this irrationality.
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  62. So, no response, then.
  63. I wouldn't want to debate me, either.
  64. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.ht...
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  68. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/hidden-author-putinism-russia-vladislav-su...
  69. +BS_Lewis
  70. That cannot be Lania. He would never intentionally misrepresent someone's view. That violates the first principle of intellectual honest debate
  71. +NigelShort
  72. Surkov likes to invoke the new postmodern texts just translated into Russian, the breakdown of grand narratives, the impossibility of truth, how everything is only “simulacrum” and “simulacra” ... and then in the next moment he says how he despises relativism and loves conservatism, before quoting Allen Ginsberg’s “Sunflower Sutra,” in English and by heart. If the West once undermined and helped to ultimately defeat the U.S.S.R. by uniting free-market economics, cool culture, and democratic politics into one package (parliaments, investment banks, and abstract expressionism fused to defeat the Politburo, planned economics, and social realism), Surkov’s genius has been to tear those associations apart, to marry authoritarianism and modern art, to use the language of rights and representation to validate tyranny, to recut and paste democratic capitalism until it means the reverse of its original purpose.
  73. I am sorry I'm so smart.
  74. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov
  75. Surkov is perceived by many to be a key figure with much power and influence in the administration of Vladimir Putin.[6][7][8] According to The Moscow Times, this perception is not dependent on the official title Surkov might hold at any one time in the Putin government.[9] BBC documentary filmmaker Adam Curtis credits Surkov's blend of theater and politics with keeping Putin, and Putin's chosen successors, in power since 2000.[10]
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  78. +BS_Lewis
  79. The polling for the presidency doesn't matter. It was just an analogy: how can I trust the veracity of a survey on a site that is linked to? I'm more skeptical to trust anything, especifically if it conforms to my preconceptions. I would need to see what experts think about the survey
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