<AJ> Like a lot. They go along so well yet are so apparently different

<|Trixie|> Yeah they're cool.

<AJ> Also fimally exploring the ele,ntal apple things. People do so little with the possibilities of esrth pony magic and all

<AJ> Almost frustating -3-

<AutumnLeaf> it is underexplored, yes

<AutumnLeaf> I think a lot of earth pony traits here boil down to "super strong"

* AutumnLeaf is very guilty of that one

<AJ> Because people just go for the sheet bonuses -3-

<AJ> Or did

<Pomegranate> lol sheets

<Pomegranate> Well, let's see here

<Pomegranate> If Zebra's natural magic can be as the Yang to the Earth Pony's Yin...that would mean EArth Ponies are uch more in-tune iwth nature n' stuff

<Pomegranate> or, life magic in a sense

<aeox> > Earth ponies have the power to make up decent to mediocre musical numbers on the spot

<aeox> > Canon'd

<Museum> > And include those around them in said things :D

<AJ> Earth Pony are more linked to the earth and ppants

<AJ> Zebras are more with substances and voodoo

<|Trixie|> Well they both are

<AJ> I guess Sebras are kind of more specialized earth ponies

<AJ> Zebras

<|Trixie|> Zebras have about as much power, but slightly more conscious control at the cost of the strength that defines earth ponies

<AutumnLeaf> zebras to me also seem to be more in tune with the occult

<|Trixie|> Zebras can't cast spells, but they can weave enchantments and discover things intrinsically, and yes they have more experience with the occult, and ancient pagan earth magics

<ChiefofRocketry> Zebras are more ritualistic about it, I imagine, while earth ponies just have... skills, affected passively by their magic. They pull off feats that won´t work in other races, more or less?

<AJ> Mnh.

<aeox> > But what about gryphons tho

<AJ> Earth Ponies have very little control over their own magic. To even have the control of AJ takes a LOT of training, and a very strong earth pony heritage.

<AJ> And even then, it is not 100%. They can control the ground, what they desire, properties of plants, etc...

<AJ> Normally, it is passive, but with strong focus and heritage, one can "increase" the chances of what they want, and hasten the growth of things that would take weeks into days or even hours.

<AJ> But it has it's drawbacks, and even then, it is not 100%

<AJ> Earth Pony magic is not exact

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<AutumnLeaf> They really do need to work harder to achieve their potential

<AutumnLeaf> Unicorns and pegasi have it easy

<AJ> No one has it easy -3-

<AJ> Everything needs practice and focus.

<AutumnLeaf> Comparitively speaking, I mean

<AutumnLeaf> Any unicorn can perform basic magic and TK

<AutumnLeaf> and pegasi can fly

<AutumnLeaf> A raw earth pony might have the physical edge, but that's it

<|Trixie|> Most unicorns can only use TK

<|Trixie|> Most pegasi can only fly and fuck with clouds a little

<|Trixie|> most earthies are just strong

<|Trixie|> Beyond any specializations afforded to them by their special talent, ponies are generally average

<Pomegranate> But if your Sunset Shimmer you can shit on Pegasi too

<Pomegranate> woops

<Pomegranate> I mean Starlight Glimmer

<Pomegranate> their names are too similar

<Busybee> Probably

<|Trixie|> To use a fanfic example, Littlepip from FoE couldn't actually do anything but use telekinesis, but became very good at it

<Busybee> And yes yes they are -3-

<AutumnLeaf> Good thing ponies are generally nice

<AutumnLeaf> There'd be quite the culture of resentment otherwise

<Busybee> Earth ponies seem to be the 'best' actually

<AJ> When all you have is a hammer -3-

<AutumnLeaf> That sounds a bit like X-Men

<Pomegranate> Second Layer

<Busybee> I mean unicorns might HAVE magic

<Busybee> But very few seem to actually know how to use it well

<AJ> Are we talking derpi or canon mlp

<Busybee> Canon for me

<AJ> Canon wise, most ponies purpose in life is in their cutie marks. Thus their talents and strengths are cut into that.

<Busybee> Pegasi can fly but earthies can move buildings easily O.O

<Busybee> Yeah mostly -3-

<Busybee> But you see more examples of super strong earth ponies

<AutumnLeaf> Eh. Are we talking about Big Mac here?

<AutumnLeaf> He's a special case

<Museum> > Longstocking

<AutumnLeaf> and she's a freak of nature

<Busybee> Big mac, pippy, likely Maud, pinkie in the sombra verse

<|Trixie|> Longstocking is a freak

<AJ> Longstocking is Saitama

<AJ> One punch

<Busybee> They just seem to be like Saitama just meaning exceptionally strong at normal things

<AJ> Ko

<Museum> Maud is strong as fuck

<Museum> Still headcanon for her

<Museum> She's the One Punch Mare

<Museum> That is never changing

<Busybee> Nah

<Busybee> That rock took way too many punches

<|Trixie|> She's more Hoof of the North Star

<Museum> Nah she was being careful not to hurt the one beneath it

<|Trixie|> ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA

<Pomegranate> Haha, Kenshiro

<Museum> Chip it into fragments, rather than let the whole "breaking a meteor" thing happen and crush Pinkie beneath fragments

<Blueblood> > Pewdiepie has his own game now

<Pomegranate> So does the Nerd

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<Blueblood> Yeah but

<Blueblood> Pewdiepie

<AutumnLeaf> If I'm not mistaken, the Nerd's game is getting a sequel

<Pomegranate> And that's all that matters

<Busybee> Don't be silly

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<Busybee> That wouldn't crush pinkie -3-

<|Amaterasu|> I keep missing these things when I get pulled away

<Busybee> And she does the same thing in Sombra verse in the finale :d

<Busybee> With pinkie too so ponk is stronk unsurprisingly -3-

<Museum> Naturally she is -u-

<Museum> I mean

<Museum> I'd need to check with Autumnleaf and Maud__Pie over there but

<Museum> I am of the notion stronk-levels go Maud, Limestone, Pinkie/Marble

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<AutumnLeaf> Thing is, honestly

<AutumnLeaf> We don't really see Marble or Limestone doing anything spectacular, so it's hard to tell

<AutumnLeaf> but Limestone should be higher up because she seemingly works much harder than Marble

<Busybee> Marble could be secretly strong

<Museum> I'd thought that yeah...

<Museum> Well naturally yes, and yeah that was my thinking. Limestone seems the "worked for it", Maud seems the "freak of nature", Pinkie and Marble though seem like o.o

<Busybee> I forget the trope name that fits that type

<Museum> > You don't expect anything cause their sisters are SO STRONG

<Pomegranate> Wait

<Pomegranate> what about Mama and Papa Pie

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<Museum> > But you forget they all had the same upbringing, and Pinkie and Marble can still knock your fucking house down with their hoof they just don't show it

<AutumnLeaf> It's more "who can push the heaviest rock"

<AutumnLeaf> Maud we've seen. She can jackhammer through a mountain with her hooves

<ChiefofRocketry> Rock farming: When merely buff isn´t enough

<|Amaterasu|> Zula is zeeb that is stronk but she doesn't need to be an earthie, her secret: Like Bluk Biceps she lifts. the same trade off: she is heavy

<AJ> Tbh, I find their strength more of a plot demands kind. I mean

<Museum> Yeah, Maud's stronkest I believe if there's no real objection between the Pie sisters...need Trotto and Indy on that one though

<AJ> Look, The Pie Sisters are strong. But Big Mac easily carried a house.

<Busybee> Yeah that's probably canonically true

<AJ> Hopping.

<Busybee> And yeah big Mac is probably stronger actually

<Maud__Pie> Maud seems to be because of rock punching, but out of funny Marble being strongest

<Busybee> Not as strong as Pippy will be

<Busybee> That girl will arm wrestle all of them and win

<AJ> So their strength is silly. And Aj has ridiculous stamina to harvest half a orchard by herself, and an entire orchard driving herself insane tired.

<Sala> (Sup everyone.)

<AJ> And Pinkie doesn't abide to the rules of reality so it is hardly fair to compare anything with her -3-

<Museum> > Actually

<Museum> > Hai Sala

<Museum> > But Maud strength > Big Mac

<Museum> > I mean that house? That's a BIG house.

<Museum> > Bigger than the rock Maud throws.

<Museum> > Heavier, too.

<Museum> > But the strength needed to pull something versus vertically lift it is much less

<AJ> There is the inertia pull.

<Pomegranate> they eat rocks

<Museum> > He pulls it forwards, she launches hers straight up at an angle without straining and sends it FLYING

<Busybee> Ueah

<AutumnLeaf> There's also the fact that the Pies eat rocks

<Busybee> But he isn't trying

<Busybee> At all

<AJ> He did it absently minded.

<AutumnLeaf> I'm sure 99.9% of the pony population would have no teeth left after a meal of rock soup

<Busybee> That thing doesn't even slow him

<AJ> Maud focused at least

<AJ> He did by accident and that didn't stop him in the slightest

<Museum> Nothing shows Maud focused, actually

<|Trixie|> shitting dick nipples

<Museum> And the distance she achieved with just that little toss?

<AJ> She did it with intention and this prepared for it

<Museum> I'm willing to say math shows her feat is a fair bit harder than his

<AJ> Big Mac did that without even noticing

<|Amaterasu|> and AJ. Jack is the closest to an earthie using nature magic. sure he uses Kohana as the catylst but being an earthie is how the Soul Sword awoken as a grass type

<Museum> She did it in the time it took Rainbow to turn around and say a few words?

<Museum> Not exactly olympic prep time there

<AJ> We putting math in ponies -3-

<Museum> ouo

<Sala> We talking feats now?

<AutumnLeaf> Of course, Fetti

<Maud__Pie> I have two of them

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<Museum> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENVB6tjq_M

<Maud__Pie> Oh nope, make that three.

<AJ> I am simply saying that EP strength is a plot demands rule of funny kinda thing.

<|Amaterasu|> hey putting math in ponies is how we learned RD's actual speed -u-

<AJ> -3-

<AJ> Or else...well...you know. A lot of saitamas around.

<AJ> We wouldn't even need the ele,ents, just ounch NMM back to the moon.

<Pomegranate> Wanna know what I think?

<AJ> Elements

<AJ> Ponies are cute

<AutumnLeaf> Ultimately?

<AutumnLeaf> It's a kid's TV show

<AJ> Its what I always say

<Blueblood> Overthinking shit

<AJ> Its a little girl's tv show