Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
So
been thinking about viera
again(edited)
more specifically, viera and hume unions
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Gwyndolin the secret viera
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
DAMMIT HOW DID YOU KNOW
I WAS GONNA GO THROUGH THIS SHPEIL
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
I KNEW IT
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
OF TALKING ABOUT HUME VS VIERA GENETICS
AND THEN END WITH 'anyways secret male viera gwyndy"
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
now I'm picturing Dalmasca with Anor Londo in it
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
same
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Dynast King of Sunlight
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
but no like i feel like, like gerudo, a daughter of a hume and a viera is almost guaranteed to also be a viera. like an 85% chance at least
but a son is p much always a hume
like female viera phenotype > female hume phentotype
but its not that a male viera coming from these unions is impossible
its that even among pure viera unions, males are excessively rare
so while female is viera > hume
male phentoype is hume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viera
its so astronimically unlikely that theres like no documented case of it happening, ever
and is thought to be impossible, which isnt helped by the general masses thinking male viera dont exist to begin with since the viera are so secretive by default about themselves, and then secretive x100 about their dudes
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
and i can see gwyn having had a viera wife maybe, which also makes sense because viera live twice as long as humes so that works out with gwyn being like 50 and having 4 kids over the course of like 20 years with the same woman
and her not being a broken older lady wheezing as she squeezes out one more kid
bonus points: gwynevere and/or filianore turned out as pretty viera girls
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
I'm gonna say Gwynevere was the one who didn't become a Viera by like sheer luck of the draw but Yorshka and Filianore absolutely did
like I want to say that Gwynevere just wound up getting the genes that make her this stunning, statuesque woman like most viera but she's still a hume
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
nice
and it extra complies with my headcanon that male viera are the smol to female vieras tol
gwynevere, filianore, yorshka = tol
gwyndy = smol
and then theres 100% hume big bro, flexing
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
hanging out in Rosarria somewhere
Not Archades! Definitely not Archades. But possibly Rosarria
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
on that note, gwyndolin is born. gwyn could be ignorant and be like male??? viera???? unheard of. and his wife has to correct him like no hun they do exist... or hes not that ignorant but EITHER WAY the end result is "okay but the general masses dont know that, they wont accept a male viera in the royal family, especially not one so frail"
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Gwyn and his wife just looking at this lil baby boy with bun ears
and Gwyn is just lke
*like
how
he's a cherished boy by the royal family but he's definitely kept hidden for like
all the reasons
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
gwyn thinking he should raise gwyndolin as another viera princess, mom like "no?? hes a perfect viera boy, the peak of viera masculinity you cant just force your child to live as the opposite sex!"

and gwyn is like "listen i am a public figure and the people will not accept a male viera. if i present this kid as a boy, people will think i actually AM forcing a girl to live as a boy! theyll think im a sexist ass who was that desperate for another son!"

"SO YOURE DOING THE OPPOSITE ANYWAYS???"

they argue a lot
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
it doesn't help that like
Viera masculinity is....different from hume masculinity
so either way he gets the lace
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
exactly why mom would point out that gwyndoling is the most perfect baby viera boy she has ever heard of, the pinnacle of viera manliness,
still gets the lace
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
so in the end the argument was for nothing
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
but maybe mom was not so healthy (gwyndolin couldve inherited sickliness from her) and shes done so well but that fourth birth just kinda took it out of her. she doesnt die from childbirth itself and probably lasts a while after the fact but shes weakened and gets sick and dies.

the pettier part of gwyn like ".... that means i win the argument". and then mourns her for a decade or two before marrying another viera lady and having another viera daughter at like 60/70 because his virility is out of control
i bet they were stalling the announcement of gwyndolins birth while they argued because what are they gonna show him to the public as, prince or princess?? so if his birth does wind up announced rather than hidden, it comes a few months late and the public is given the white lie that the queen died in childbirth, which they assume is bc she had a way-too-long pregnancy
alternatively they still say she died from pregnancy complications but dont mention gwyndolin to the public at all so people assume the baby didnt make it
im not sure which i prefer
known viera princess gwyndolin who is simply not in the public eye very often, or just 'whos that viera girl sometimes seen with the royal family'
think im leaning towards actually acknowledged but extremely not-present princess
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
I'm going to say acknowledge, but because of the ears, everyone just assumes he's a Princess and he's just tired of explaining
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
doesnt help that thats what dad says too
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Also, sudden thought: Basch fon Ronsenberg as played by Ornstein
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
oh my god
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
tell me the Four Knights of Gwyn wouldn't make for amazing Ivalice characters
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
but yeah gwyn is like "yes this is my youngest daughter princess gwyndolin" and gwyndy is just ":| [sighing internally]"
THEY WOULD
also you kno what gets me
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Knight Artorias, Lord's Blade Cieran, Hawkeye Gough, Dragonslayer Ornstein, and sometimes Smough(edited)
the jolly executioner Seeq
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
executioner smough wanted to be one of the knights of gwyn SO BAD but was always refused because he was too delightfully cruel and also ate his victims
and yet
when it came down to it
he was more loyal to guarding anor londo than ornstein
Baron Esper - 07/15/2017
Yep
He remained
whatever else he may be, we should remember that
anyway, I gotta get to work, but text me more of this shit, it's fascinating
byeeeeeee
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/15/2017
seeya!

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July 16, 2017
Baron Esper - 07/16/2017
so, Covenants in FFXII Ivalice
we already discussed the Warriors of Sunlight
the Princess' Guard is probably just the Order of the Knights of Dalmasca given a different name, or at least a division of them dedicated to guarding the Princess
Baron Esper - 07/16/2017
the Forest Hunters are clearly militant Viera
but instead of being dedicated to protecting a sacred gravesite, they just protect the forest from intruders in general
Not sure what I want to do with Alvira yet
or Sif the Great Grey Wolf, for that matter
the Blade of the Darkmoon is obvious enough: They're Gywndolin's spies and assassins, who work in the dark to serve the light
if there's anything that Gwyndolin is damn good at in all incarnations, it's spycraft
if Dalmasca being conquered is still a thing, and with Pontiff Sulyvahn it's very well possible, I'm going to say the Blade of the Darkmoon are likely the main pocket of resistance still struggling against the Pontiff's Outrider Knights, but that's neither here nor there
the more esoteric ones are a little harder for me, like the Gravelord Servants or the Path of the Dragon
though I guess the Gravelord Servants could just be these weirdos who hang out in the Necrohol of Nabudis and worship like the grim specter of death or something, I'd rather not reduce a Covenant to just a barrel of mobs to fight unless I have to
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/16/2017
i love that gwyndolin is frail and sickly and the smallest lord in canon but hes the one who has a covenant of justice assassins that cut of their victims ears as trophies. he does not fuck around if crossed
the description for the darkmoon blade miracle in ds3 is gr8
Miracles of the Darkmoon are tales of revenge, but Captain Yorshka recites only for the sake of remembering her brother, without knowledge of its meaning.
Perhaps this is better, as revenge is better left to the Blades.
angry vengeful little gwyndy
gwyndolin and sheltered yorshka all alone as the royal family, being pushed around by this false pontiff, gwyndolin sicklier than ever, but secretly working their spies and assassins against him while trying to keep up appearances
Baron Esper - 07/16/2017
in a more optimistic game, that would probably be the central plot
helping the Blades of the Darkmoon to overthrow the False Pontiff
and restore King Gwyndolin
to his rightful throne
god, that's weird to think about
Gwyndolin's King now
like even when Gwyn's been dead for god knows how long in Dark Souls 1, his presence is still all over the place, you feel like Gwyn is still somehow the King of Sunlight
well, I mean, technically he's still alive as that hollowed-out shell in the Kiln of the First Flame
but you take my meaning
but in Dark Souls III, there's no way around it, Anor Londo is ruled by King Gwyndolin
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/16/2017
HELLO [poses]
July 17, 2017
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
Hello!
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
i just want you to know im still giggling about clueless ornstein
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
pffft
good
he's very clueless
he's friends with Smough, after all
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
gwyndolin finally telling everyone hes actually been a boy this whole time
ornstein:
http://i.imgur.com/XhQHx32.png

Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
THAT'S EXACTLY THE IMAGE I WAS PICTURING
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
GOOD
BECAUSE IT POPPED INTO MY HEAD IMMEDIATELY
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
GOOD
also, I've been thinking about Occuria Frampt and Kaath
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
god
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
and I legit have a hard time figuring out which one is the Venat
in this situation
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
ruining everything since the dawn of time
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
or maybe it's just these two
like they're just the Occuria, period
Potente Byrd Mæmes - 07/17/2017
id believe it
Baron Esper - 07/17/2017
FFXII AU where everything's the same but Venat is replaced with Frampt
just replace the ghostly model with a big dumb snake with a mustache