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- [IMG alt="svcamomons.png"]https://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/svcamomons-png.468029/[/IMG]
- [I][SIZE=2]banner by [B][USER=50586]Euphonos[/USER] [/B]| meowscarada art by [/SIZE][/I][SIZE=2][URL='https://twitter.com/complicarlos'][I][B]@complicarlos[/B][/I][/URL][/SIZE][I][SIZE=2] (Twitter)[/SIZE][/I]
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- [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][B][U][SIZE=5]Introduction[/SIZE][/U][/B][/COLOR]
- It's a fact that many Pokemon in today's metagame suffer from a bad typing. Pokemon such as Charizard and Abomasnow are perpetually hampered by their crippling 4x weaknesses to some attacks. Wouldn't it be great if they could rid themselves of this burden and blossom with a fresh typing? Well, now you can, with Camomons! [B]Each and every Pokemon become the types of the first two moves in their moveslots[/B]! Undershadowed Pokemon can now experience a new life in this OM. Even popular Pokemon can transform to fit and match the player's desires. Anything is possible!
- [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][U][B][SIZE=5]Rules[/SIZE][/B][/U][/COLOR]
- [B]Mechanic[/B]: Pokemon change their type to match the types of their first two moves in their moveslots. Pokemon with multiple moves of the same type in their first two slots will have only one type. [B]Types are revealed to the player instantly upon being sent out.[/B]
- Examples:
- [TABLE]
- [TR]
- [TD][CENTER]:sv/garchomp:
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG] ->[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]
- Garchomp @ Black Sludge
- Ability: Rough Skin
- EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Jolly Nature
- - Liquidation
- - Poison Jab
- - Stealth Rock
- - Swords Dance
- [I]Garchomp's resultant modified type will be [B]Water/Poison[/B].[/I][/CENTER][/TD]
- [TD][CENTER]:sv/blissey:
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Normal.png[/IMG]->[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Normal.png[/IMG]
- Blissey @ Heavy-Duty Boots
- Ability: Natural Cure
- EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 SpD
- Calm Nature
- - Soft Boiled
- - Heal Bell
- - Seismic Toss
- - Stealth Rock
- [I]Blissey's resultant [S]modified[/S] type will become pure [B]Normal[/B].[/I][/CENTER][/TD]
- [/TR]
- [/TABLE]
- [B]Ruleset:[/B]
- Evasion Clause, Standard OMs, Sleep Clause Mod
- [B]Bans:[/B]
- [U]Pokemon:[/U] :koraidon: Koraidon, :miraidon: Miraidon, :chien-pao: Chien-Pao
- [U]Abilities:[/U] Arena Trap, Moody, Shadow Tag
- [U]Moves:[/U] Baton Pass
- [U]Items:[/U] King's Rock, Booster Energy
- [SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][U][B]Strategy and Preliminary Set Samples[/B][/U][/COLOR][/SIZE]
- Pokemon with access to moves with desirable types are favored in this meta. Steel, Ghost and Fairy are all incredible defensive types and as such many Pokemon will seek to transform into those types. Powerful offensive Pokemon that primarily rely on one offensive STAB often can be seen transforming into types that grant them STAB on their coverage move. Here are some examples that could look promising:
- :sv/great tusk:
- [I]Great Tusk base typing is good at abusing 2 really strong moves in [B]Close Combat[/B] and [B]Headlong Rush[/B] making it a good breaker. However, Fighting + Ground coverage is kinda bad not being able to touch either Flying or Bug mons. In Camomons, this limitation is removed and Great Tusk can fully take advantage from its large movepool to play many viable typings such as [I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][/I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fairy.png[/IMG], [I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fairy.png[/IMG], [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fighting.png[/IMG][I][I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG], etc offensively with [B]Play Rough[/B] and[B] Knock Off[/B]. It can also better exploit its high physical bulk with moves like [B]Body Press[/B], [B]Megahorn[/B] or [B]Heavy Slam[/B] to get typings like [I][I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fighting.png[/IMG][I][I][I][I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Bug.png[/IMG][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] ,[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Bug.png[/IMG], [I][I][I][I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG][/I][/I][/I][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fairy.png[/IMG], etc making it an interesting hazard setter or Rapid Spinner. [/I][/I][/I][/I][/I]
- [SPOILER="Set"]
- Great Tusk @ Choice Band
- Ability: Protosynthesis
- EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Jolly Nature
- - Headlong Rush
- - Play Rough
- - Knock Off
- - Fire Fang
- [/SPOILER]
- :sv/ting-lu:
- [I]Ting-Lu's [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG] initial typing is not perfect for a defensive role to take full advantage from its amazing mixed bulk. You can change that by playing [B]Heavy Slam[/B] and [B]Spikes[/B] to become [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG], a much more interesting defensive typing.[/I]
- [SPOILER="Set"]
- Ting-Lu @ Leftovers
- Ability: Vessel of Ruin
- EVs: 56 Atk / 200 Def / 252 SpD
- Impish Nature
- - Heavy Slam
- - Spikes
- - Whirlwind
- - Protect
- [/SPOILER]
- [SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][B][U]Q&A[/U][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
- [B]Q: [/B]What will happen if I place a move on either first two slots that can potentially change types in certain circumstances, such as [B]Weather Ball[/B] and [B]Tera Blast[/B]?
- [B]A:[/B] The original type of said move before it changes types on different circumstances will be honored. For example, [B]Weather Ball[/B] is originally Normal-type, and can change types with weather. Regardless of whatever weather condition, the Pokemon with Weather Ball in Slot 1 will make it (part-) Normal.
- [I][S]In the case of [B]Tauros's Raging Bull[/B], [B]Oricorio's Revelation Dance[/B] (and for those interested: [B]Arceus's Judgment[/B]), these moves are coded as Normal-type regardless of the change of form; thus Paldean Tauros having Raging Bull and whatever form of Oricorio with Revelation Dance will be revealed as part-Normal as well.[/S] [under investigations][/I]
- [B]Q: [/B]How does [B]Terastallization[/B] work in Camomons?
- [B]A:[/B] Terastallization is the most prominent battle feature in this Scarlet/Violet generation. A Pokemon who Terastallizes will change its current typing to a (pure) chosen Terastallized type and will remain that type for the entire match.
- [B][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][SIZE=5][U]Council and tiering decisions[/U][/SIZE][/COLOR]
- [U]Council[/U][/B]
- [IMG]https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/icon/146.png[/IMG][USER=50586]Euphonos[/USER] (Leader)
- [IMG]https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/icon/807.png[/IMG][USER=475804]The Number Man[/USER]
- [IMG]https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/icon/488.png[/IMG][USER=376783]Siamato[/USER]
- [IMG]https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/icon/024.png[/IMG][USER=545372]Clastia[/USER]
- [IMG]https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/icon/061.png[/IMG][USER=574634]ponchlake[/USER]
- [B][U]Tiering actions Archive[/U][/B]
- [TABLE]
- [TR]
- [TH]Date[/TH]
- [TH]Tiering Action[/TH]
- [/TR]
- [TR]
- [TD]11.24.2022[/TD]
- [TD]King's Rock banned[/TD]
- [/TR]
- [TR]
- [TD]11.27.2022[/TD]
- [TD]Chien Pao and Booster Energy banned[/TD]
- [/TR]
- [/TABLE]
- [B][U]On the radar[/U][/B]
- [SPOILER="Current watchlist"]
- [B][U]Pokemon[/U][/B]
- Alphabetic order
- ★★★ Seems broken and should go asap for metagame sake (vote after 2 weeks at most)
- Baxcalibur
- [S]Chien-Pao[/S]
- Dragonite
- Iron Bundle
- Iron Valiant
- Palafin
- Roaring Moon
- ★★ Probably too much but let's see more (vote after 1 month at most)
- Cyclizar
- Chi-Yu
- Flutter Mane
- Houndstone
- Hydreigon
- Iron Moth
- Lycanroc-Dusk
- ★ Looks fine atm but to keep in mind because they might be not
- Ceruledge
- Dragapult
- Drednaw
- Garchomp
- Gholdengo
- Great Tusk
- Iron Hands
- Slither Wing
- [B][U]Moves[/U][/B]
- None.
- [I]Calm Mind (banned last gen because too many abusers in a fat metagame)
- Last Respects (= Houndstone atm)
- Shed Tail (mostly = to Cyclizard)[/I]
- [B][U]Items[/U][/B]
- [S]Booster Energy[/S]
- [I]Heat Rock might pop there depending on how many good Protosynthesis remains. [/I]
- [B][U]Other[/U][/B]
- Terrastalization
- [/SPOILER]
- [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][SIZE=5][B][U]Resources[/U][/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]
- [B][U]Old generation Camomons threads[/U][/B]
- [URL='https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/camomons.3656413/']:zacian-crowned:Sword & Shield Camomons thread[/URL]:zamazenta-crowned:
- [SPOILER="Chall code"]
- \challenge gen8ou@@@camomonsmod, +urshifu-base, +magearna, +cinderace, -mew, -zeraora, -tornadus-therian, -dragonite, -hydreigon, -kartana, -lycanroc-dusk, -calm mind
- [/SPOILER]
- :solgaleo:[URL='https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/camomons.3598418/']Sun & Moon Camomons thread:lunala:[/URL]
- [SPOILER="Chall code"]
- \challenge gen7ou@@@camomonsmod, -latias-mega, -shedinja, -kyurem-black, -dragonite, -kartana, -kommoniumz
- [/SPOILER]
- :xerneas:[URL='https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/camomons.3513059/']X & Y Camomons thread[/URL]:yveltal:
- [SPOILER="Chall code"]
- \challenge gen6ou@@@camomonsmod
- [/SPOILER]
- [B][U]Great posts (on this thread)[/U][/B]
- None yet!
- [B][U]Competitive resources (on this thread)[/U][/B]
- Sample Teams
- Viability Rankings
- Role Compendium
- Typing Compendium
- Speed Tiers
- [B][U]Typing list[/U][/B]
- Use type images to make your post more visual and therefore more easy to read! You can copy paste the below list.
- [SPOILER="Type list"]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fire.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Grass.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Normal.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fighting.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Bug.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Rock.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Electric.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Flying.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ghost.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Psychic.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ice.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fairy.png[/IMG]
- [/SPOILER]
- [B][U]How to share a set? Example of formatting[/U][/B]
- Of course you're free to use whatever formatting you want to share a set but a clear and nice one is proposed below.
- [SPOILER="Example"] :sv/garchomp:
- [B]Garchomp[/B]
- [U]Typings:[/U] [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG][[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Rock.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ghost.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fire.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG]/...]
- [U]Stats:[/U] 108/130/95/80/85/108
- [U]Ability:[/U] Rough Skin
- [U]Item:[/U] Leftovers / Black Sludge / Lum Berry
- [U]Relevant Moves (for typing):[/U]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG] - Liquidation
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG] - Poison Jab
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG] - Earthquake
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG] - Dragon Claw, Outrage, Dragon Tail
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG] - Crunch
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG] - Iron Head
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Rock.png[/IMG] - Stone Edge, [I]Rock Slide[/I]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ghost.png[/IMG] - Shadow Claw
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fire.png[/IMG] - Fire Fang, [I]Fire Blast, Flamethrower[/I]
- [U]Other Moves:[/U] Stealth Rock, Spikes, Sword Dance, Substitute
- [SPOILER="Importable"]
- Garchomp @ Leftovers
- Ability: Rough Skin
- Tera Type: Water
- EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Jolly Nature
- - Liquidation
- - Poison Jab
- - Stealth Rock
- - Swords Dance
- [/SPOILER]
- [/SPOILER]
- [SPOILER="Code of the example"]
- [ICODE]:sv/garchomp:
- [B]Garchomp[/B]
- [U]Typings:[/U] [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG][[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Rock.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ghost.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fire.png[/IMG]/[IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG][IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG]/...]
- [U]Stats:[/U] 108/130/95/80/85/108
- [U]Ability:[/U] Rough Skin
- [U]Item:[/U] Leftovers / Black Sludge / Lum Berry
- [U]Relevant Moves (for typing):[/U]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Water.png[/IMG] - Liquidation
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Poison.png[/IMG] - Poison Jab
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ground.png[/IMG] - Earthquake
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dragon.png[/IMG] - Dragon Claw, Outrage, Dragon Tail
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Dark.png[/IMG] - Crunch
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Steel.png[/IMG] - Iron Head
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Rock.png[/IMG] - Stone Edge, [I]Rock Slide[/I]
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Ghost.png[/IMG] - Shadow Claw
- [IMG]https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Fire.png[/IMG] - Fire Fang, [I]Fire Blast, Flamethrower[/I]
- [U]Other Moves:[/U] Stealth Rock, Spikes, Sword Dance, Substitute
- [SPOILER="Importable"]
- Garchomp @ Leftovers
- Ability: Rough Skin
- Tera Type: Water
- EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Jolly Nature
- - Liquidation
- - Poison Jab
- - Stealth Rock
- - Swords Dance[/SPOILER][/ICODE]
- [/SPOILER]
- [IMG height="25px"]https://logo-marque.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Discord-Logo.png[/IMG] [URL='https://discord.gg/QPu9wNn'][B]Camomons Discord[/B][/URL]. Find opponents to play, advices to build and explore the metagame with us!
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