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/fringe/「Wand Path to immortality」Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)09 Aug 2018 (Thu) 20:58:21No.4623355
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    Introduction

    Members from this group may post on 8/fringe/ and 4/x/. Some may post vids on youtube. This is how the average occultist will come into contact with this path. Once again, having the telepathic ability is more or less required if you want to reach anywhere noticable here. You can probably do this from a "mundane" entry point as well, but imo it's probably more work. But that is up to you. To get in here, you need to be noticed. How you attract that attention is not important. Make yourself a name as a youtuber, start tripfagging, start writing occult books and get them printed, anything you can think of. If you have the right mindset and skill you will be seen and contacted.
    Reaching enlightenment by this path seems extremely difficult. Obviously it can be done, because of the existence of "Artillery Mage", the one and only elder of this practice I've seen. But maybe I just lack the ability to contact any other, or they're keeping to themselves somewhere. The characteristics of this path is determined by its focus on Wands. While these are not physical wands when you get to that stage, you may actually start by using artifacts as a way of learning. The main idea here is the development of artifacts, eventually these take the form of concepts or mental objects, but their nature does not change. This in itself is pretty unique. To be able to produce an artifact which holds something of yourself, you need deep understanding of yourself. This is the total opposite of vampirism, which has a relatively low standard for each step. But the effect is completely different, and if you do succed here, what you reach will have a sharpness of perception which is hard to reach in any other way.

>>4721553 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)09 Aug 2018 (Thu) 20:59:26No.4623360

    Simple in theory, but very hard to succeed in, "The Library" or the "Wand Path" is the reason /fringe/ even became a thing. It's an organization and a conscious entity, what it really is, is a bit of a mystery. You can interact with its members, and you can interact with the library itself, but getting there is a pretty large step up from the mundane or neophyte level.
    The available physical books may somehow touch on it, but never directly, you're supposed to just "get it" one day and turn your eyes in the right direction. That is the entry level test.

    To my understanding, the library consists of two parts
    >the physical members and their astral interface for communication (think telepathic fb)
    >the entity here referred to as simply "the library", and the wizards working with it closely, in short referred to as librarians

    The goal for anyone entering here, is to create "the ultimate wand", by which the wizard will achieve immortality and unlock their inner power, which will open possibilities for easy creation of any other wand.

    What is a "wand"?

    A wand can be physical, but the aim here is to move beyond the physcial and through energy manipulation create a wand which is directly linked to your mind, a mental construct. The process has some small similarity to the creation of servitors.
    A wand consists of two parts; a handle or staff, and a knob, blade or other form with a function. The handle will ensure that any potentially harmful effect is placed at a distance from you, and aimed outward. The entire theory of wand creation is to suppress your surroundings, other people and the world, in the end even suppressing death by sheer force.

>>4653541 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)09 Aug 2018 (Thu) 21:01:05No.4623368

    How to get started?

    You are already on /fringe/, that's the first step. This step may continue endlessly unless you make some significant progress and discover something of the real reality behind the physical. Somewhere around there, you will be able to discern other people with a little more knowledge and ability. To the average wizard they're just the same as anyone else, most people can't tell reality from falsehood and will remain in discussions on the nature of entry level stuff. If you are able to choose who you interact with properly, and show that you do really "get it", you can advance, and bit by bit you will gain reputation and with that, open doors to the real stuff.

    As long as someone is asking about basic, entry level things, repeating misconceptions, arguing violently to defend their armchair knowledge etc, they will not be given even a hint. More likely someone will throw a curse at them to see how they handle it.

    This will NOT be a spoonfeeding thread. Everything you need to know has been explained in this post already, the rest is up to your own ability.
    I will follow the "library" disposition here and answer questions if they are relevant and show that the poster did his homework.

Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 14:31:15No.4653541

    >>4623360 #
    >"The Library" or the "Wand Path" is the reason /fringe/ even became a thing
    And here I thought that /fringe/ became a thing back when Smiley wanted to talk to people about magic so he made the first iteration of /fringe/ that I'm unaware of, then freedomboard, then 8/fringe/ and now fucked off to mewch. You sure you're not placing undue importance on a board that is now mostly neophytes, mundanes and shitposters?

>>4653571 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 14:44:04No.4653571

    >>4653541 #
    >Members from this group may post on 8/fringe/ and 4/x/
    Check this out. Stuff of the same kind already appeared in the vampirism threads. Do you actually think anyone of importance or any advance being would post in such degenerate places? Really think about it

>>4653582 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 14:55:51No.4653582

    >>4653571 #
    Obviously the answer is no, and I would be highly sceptical of some shadowy group that allegedly can turn anyone who merely thinks of them for an extended period of time immortal. /fringe/ has strayed very far from the path of self mastery and spiritual advancement and there's no way you can recover it, no matter how many times you try to filter the community by moving chans.

>>4653586 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:00:36No.4653586

    >>4653582 #
    If I can move along with fringe, any other random degenerate can. I believe the moving around does nothing...sometimes it is best to let the past rest and move on.

>>4653588 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:02:27No.4653588

    >>4653586 #
    Then OP really needs to start linking people from old /fringe/ sites like mewch and let a new community grow organically. Hell he can just do what I do and occasionally talk about magic on /pol/ and educate people who are genuinely interested.

>>4653590 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:04:49No.4653590

    >>4653588 #
    It's too hard to find a genuine initiate. Those are very rare and I believe if you talk about magick in random places you only attract too much degenerates. But then again I have no idea what else to do. Who in our time will still embark on the quest for the holy grail? Who has the balls to accept the real, hard truths of occultism? Who will do the work for themselves instead of merely arguing with theories? Most will stray away with conspiracy theories and new age crap and also egoic pursues like summon succubus and worship lilith. If wonder where noble souls are to be found...

>>4686633 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:08:53No.4653598

    Of course its never too late to try something tho. Anyway back on topic, I wonder why such groups as stated in this thread would post in retarded image boards? Doesn't it shine a very larpy light on the whole thing? And why would I bother with wands when I can embark on the traditional journey of enlightenment like the buddha did?

>>4653608 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:13:40No.4653608

    >>4653598 #
    Who knows, perhaps OP will be able to shed light on this when he wakes up come burger morning. In any case between taking a gamble of selecting some obscure occult group of esotericists to join in hopes that they find me worthy and pass on their knowledge to me, or going the lonesome path of self initiation and trying to walk the same path as the forerunners walked with no guidance, I'd like to think that I made the right choice striving for self initiation.

>>4653615 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:16:43No.4653615

    >>4653608 #
    No guidance means nobody can mislead you or fuck you over. It's only you and existence itself. Don't most of the sages say that all is within you anyway and you only need to meditate? The books we have are more than enough to give some guidance and general ideas so that you are not completely lost. I have been in the vampire threads from the beginning til now and always in the back of my mind there was a doubt that maybe it was not a good decision after all. Nothing happened so far and it may be only larp after all but also it may be a danger or a grave mistake to join such occult groups. Who can know? I'd rather walk the lonely path of self initiation too tbh.

>>4653620 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:22:10No.4653620

    >>4653615 #
    Worry not, it is almost certainly a LARP. Like the best guide to the shitheap of the /fringe/ armchair occultist starter pack library said, once you know how to do one thing, you know how to do everything. All is mind and all that lovely jazz. Get to the astral, talk to entities and they'll teach you how to do shit that's not written in any books you might find.

>>4686633 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:24:32No.4653625

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Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:26:51No.4653632

    >>4653625 #
    Forget sources, tell me what you tried and why can't you leave your body. Is it fear? Anxiety? Give me symptoms and I'll attempt to find a remedy.

Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:29:40No.4653635
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    >>4653625 #
    Boy you really weren't kidding. Especially with you yourself apparently reinforcing it in your mind the idea of "impossibility". I don't know for sure what's the first stage barrier getting in your way but you believing in your own inability isn't doing you any favors, in fact it's likely cementing your struggle. Clear your mind, get some patience, probably balance your character with emotional alchemy so that you don't get so agitated by apparent failure and then try again. If you've managed to get vibrations and your heart center pumping, creating that astral body of yours, that means you are capable of the feat, in theory. What I presume happened during those nights when you got to the vibrations is you anticipated imminent result too much, breaking your trance. Keep yourself level headed and allow yourself to be swept away by the sensations of your first astral projections instead of thinking things like "holy shit it's happening, I'm about to AP ZOMG" or whatnot. I wish you the best of luck but the key in all this is your own persistence and effort.

Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:35:28No.4653657

    >>4653625 #
    If you did that, you'd likely end up wandering aimlessly, with no developed astral senses, burning through your karma or unfulfilled earlthly desires as some people call it. Either way, you'd probably just end up wanting to incarnate again and repeat the process, wasting your time through the largely pointless years of youth. Keep at it, believe in yourself and eventually you will grasp success.

Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:38:02No.4653664

    >>4653625 #
    I don't drink coffee or caffeinated drinks at all. All I ever drink is water, whey protein shakes after gym, and herbal green tea. The esoteric belief is often tied with the detoxification community and those guys usually preach avoidance of acidifying substances, such as coffee and red meats. In general please try to do magic and AP attempts on an empty stomach, not after a large meal or some beverage stronger than a tea.

Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:41:13No.4653671

    Yes I will. Thanks very much. The only reason I still drink caffeine is because without it I feel dead for weeks. Anyway now you have posted all your posts and I have not posted them...the thread looks weird. I will post this one tho so people know you were talking to me all the time lmao.

>>4653675 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:43:25No.4653675
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    >>4653671 #
    It's alright, people will be able to figure out what the question was based on the answer. You say you feel dead without caffeine, can you tell me if you've tried anything other an APing? Have you attempted any energy breathing routines? Do those not energize you? I imagine APing would be quite difficult to achieve without getting the basics of energy work down.

>>4653680 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:45:30No.4653680

    >>4653675 #
    I tried to do the basic energy work on my energy body as suggested by Robert Bruce in his book, also I have tried to open my "third eye" many times and to stimulate all the chakras. I have done breathing too but could not notice anything in particular. If I do energywork it most only exhausts me and makes me tired as hell.

>>4653682 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:46:58No.4653682

    >>4653680 #
    Tried you say, I guess this means you didn't achieve a desirable result? I'm just thinking what might be going wrong for you, it came quite naturally for me so I'm not personally familiar with what hurdles might stand in the paths of others. Only thing that currently comes to mind is that your physical body has something to do with it. Would you describe your lifestyle as unhealthy? Please try to be as objective as you can.

>>4653684 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:48:42No.4653684

    >>4653682 #
    I too think it is because of my physical body. It is extremely weak and not quite normal I would say. I am not as fit as other humans and my lifestyle isn't very healthy either. Don't want to go into detail too much but ntarually all my life I barely had any energy, at least when I look at other people they all seem to have more energy and be fitter than me. This physical shell really sucks and I often wish to be free of it finally.

>>4653691 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:51:04No.4653691

    >>4653684 #
    I am sad to say that development of the body, mind and spirit goes together. It's quite unfortunate since I've found that in times of illness achieving the separation of the astral body is easier than when I'm at full health. In any case, this doesn't matter for you. Let's see now. Would you describe yourself as someone who lacks a drive, a purpose? First thing to determine is the source of your energy deficiency. I understand, so in the most basic sense, you seek death, and I presume this was the case for most of your life. Man no wonder your body is weak. The source of your malady and entropy is mental it seems. Unless you find a better reason to continue existing rather than, seeking to end your current existence, I'm afraid you will remain weak and will be hard pressed to advance in your magical path.

>>4653693 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:52:20No.4653693

    >>4653691 #
    I think about it. Good night.

>>4653696 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 15:55:55No.4653696

    >>4653693 #
    Have you considered that this is your incarnation's challenge? Surpassing the shitty hand that you've been dealt? In any case, my time is at an end here, I need my sleep. I'll respond to whatever posts you might make tomorrow. Gute nacht.

>>4653715 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 16:06:42No.4653715

    >>4653696 #
    We spammed OPs thread way too much and I am even a little sorry for that. Anyway, there cannot be a mundane reason to exist. I reject both this world and this body of mine, they are not me and they do not matter for me. Likewise, astral projection is not so important. I should practice detachments from it like from all other things. Appreciate your help but we must not put so much weight on me or my wellbeing. If it's not possible for me to AP then so be it, I think reaching enlightenment is still possible. That's my only drive and motivation. The buddha went out and became an ascetic and rejected the enitire samsara, why would I then search for a meaning or a goal to have in this sick world? I believe we need to strive to evolve and surpass this place for this earth is literally the shithole of the universe. The astral planes are merely samsara too btw and all beings that dwell on earth, on other planets or in the astral are also mere illusions of samsara, just like myself. So not being able to ap and learn from them is only a good exercise in detachment, a good test to stay calm and at peace.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)14 Aug 2018 (Tue) 21:02:50No.4654576
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    I'm not sure if there was a question in all this at all, but maybe...
    instead of looking at who created the board, think about how it's possible that someone like smiley has been allowed to do this in the first place. You may also want to ask yourself where inspiration comes from? Maybe it's telepathy. Maybe the idea was inserted from outside, by someone, given to the person who could make this online community real.
    If there is one thing about smiley, it's that he knows how to create websites and how to pull in people, create drama and attention to whatever he does. He's merely the catalyst for forces wanting this to happen. That's one aspect.

    The library itself has already appeared in many place in popular culture, but when looking at fiction like tv, movies, literature... the reader/viewer cannot directly interact with it and the idea remains there, as fiction. What /fringe/ does is to step beyond that treshold.
    What you find on the board may be the edges of the edges of faint hints of knowledge - but it allows for you to personally participate, play with the idea of the reality of it.

    The other issue raised here, personal initiation vs guidance. You're already being guided by Sakyamuni if you follow buddhis, the religion provides way more guidance than you will ever find here. You're still expected to do the job yourself. It's probably easier to join buddhism than the library. You can join it openly, or covertly, either way it's not easy. The open way is that of attracting attention, connecting with the right people materially. The covert way is that is increasing your astral sense until you can communicate directly with members, telepathically, with no material connection. This is participation in the invisible society.

    You can find references to this in the discworld novel series by Terry Pratchett. The wizard's society in that fantasy world is called "the unseen university."

>>4656795 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 05:46:27No.4656795

    >>4654576 #
    If smiley was meant to be a mere tool for the creation of the physical manifestation of the library, if you can even call it that, they he's done pretty poorly. That's not to say I'm not grateful, in fact in my early days I have learned much from him, from the books in the mega archive, from Khan, Librarian, Alpam and others that came and went. Except I've lost contact with all those people and they no longer post on any /fringe/ sites as far as I can gather, and without them, what's the point of another armchair occultist forum?

>>4657496 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 10:28:47No.4657496

    >>4656795 #
    >what's the point of another armchair occultist forum?
    Maybe it's just perception but I'm of the opinion that every incarnation of /fringe/ helped a few people who since moved along and stopped posting because they actually went beyond material communication. The bullshitters are those you still see there arguing about pointless details.
    In other words - a new /fringe/ - a few more real wizards may emerge.
    As noted by another anon we already had two attempts at creating the community here on meguca, but neither went as far as actually picking up the board name. Maybe the time is ready now.

    This is also somehow related to the search for the promised chan... that place which holds ultimate power over the communication/media structure, disregarding material control. Once there, you are the creator of culture and the ultimate ruler of the world.

>>4657549 #>>4686684 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 10:50:40No.4657538

    OP

Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 10:58:05No.4657543

Anonymous(Leksoref)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 11:03:12No.4657549

    >>4657496 #
    I somehow doubt that everything went as beautifully as you describe. More than likely it happened like this
    >Alpam fugged off to his own discord of satanists and focused on growing his own community
    >Librarian either joined Alpam or went off on his personal research and pursuits since he was more of a hermeticist
    >Khan had his own aussie group in Melbourne for years now
    >none of them care enough to entertain those more ignorant than themselves
    I'm pretty sure even tipp got fed up with /fringe/. Maybe my view is too cynical but that's what I believe most likely happened.

>>4657816 #
Anonymous(Feilgaifreif)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 11:48:10No.4657647

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 14:18:05No.4657816

    >>4657549 #
    From what I heard, Alpam is in jail for cp, tipp is running a discord. Don't know about the other, except smiley himself currently being homeless after a period of what he claimed to be him leaving /fringe/ and doing his own thing, holding a job etc. No idea how he managed to fuck up again. It's not about the leaders being the successful ones. Librarian sometimes shows up on tipp's discord.

    All of this is still just the mundane infrastructure of things. It's needed but it's not the core itself.

>>4657878 #
Anonymous(Leksoref)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 14:44:15No.4657878

    >>4657816 #
    I think you're missing the point I'm making. If the best of the best noticeable namefags/tripfags basically went nowhere and evidently didn't get membership of your esoteric wand society, then who was it meant for? Did everyone fail to meet the criteria? Anyway I think you're full of shit and I'm going to stop posting in this bread.

>>4657896 #>>4658480 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 14:51:34No.4657896

    >>4657878 #
    >Did everyone fail to meet the criteria?
    The Bored Dude did make it in.

>>4864201 #
Anonymous(Tegitkok)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 19:07:10No.4658480

    >>4657878 #
    > If the best of the best noticeable namefags/tripfags basically went nowhere
    This would confirm what Evola writes in his works. If you have no "noble soul" or spiritual virility you will go nowhere no matter how much you might try. They can tripfag, create websites, write books etc etc how much they want, a degenerate stays a degenerate. (This is why I think about giving up on all that stuff, since if I am degenerate by nature then it can't be helped). I wonder how this goes together with the wand and vampirism thing. Would I become immortal and enlightened through those means even if I have no spiritual virility or noble soul? I am Tinfoiler from the vampire threads btw. Op please come back and read our energy signature and stuff one final time. You abondoned us too early just like nothing. I wanna know about my ancestor cord too.

>>4658573 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 19:23:09No.4658573

    >>4658480 #
    There may be a difference between the potential of souls, but even the slowest learner may make it in the end. The idea here is rather that if 1% of the people seriously participating actually learns something, it's worth doing it. (or a lower number) Artillery Mage is immortal, he doesn't care. The Library is not human, it doesn't care. They advertize some, carelessly, and if no one shows up it's the same to them. They still do it because they know there are potential recruits out there, and those will show up.

>>4658738 #
Anonymous(Lafteschek)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 20:18:00No.4658738

    >>4658573 #
    Is there an astral science that maps out how exactly purely astral entities like the library are able to act and think on their own? Like If I create a thought-form that eventually becomes completely independent with it's own mind and mind made body. Surely it needs a way to process information akin to how humans need a brain to do this. The organisation required for this would be enormous and far beyond human scope of ability, yet it seems that unlike in the physical where you have to painstakingly place every neuron or transistor you can kind of start with a general idea and the details fill themselves in. It seems these non human non physical entities even learn and become more unique and complex as time goes on. What is that fills in these details in though? It is certainly not our conscious mind that is creating these complexities or else human level intelligence simply could not do it.How is a living library possible? Is there some sort of omnipresent intelligence that reads intent of the beings within them and crunches/processes the calculations for them? Because to calculate the properties of a minuscules unit of energy is too much for any human occultists using just their brain power.One can even program things in the astral just like computer here using logic but you don't need to start from the level of individual transistors for some reason, you can just do it. In my understanding everything is basically energy moving about but no energy I know of(on this physical plane) has these kind of intent reading/intelligence and consciousness fostering properties.You talk of these things as if the library has it's own self awareness and emotions.

>>4659013 #>>4662632 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)15 Aug 2018 (Wed) 21:14:28No.4659013

    >>4658738 #
    >How is a living library possible? Is there some sort of omnipresent intelligence that reads intent of the beings within them and crunches/processes the calculations for them?
    >.You talk of these things as if the library has it's own self awareness and emotions.
    Everything is aware, in this case the origin of the library is not known, but the summoning of a simple entity is not a big deal. It can be assigned a simple task of maintaining certain information for an occultist, later on through its accumulated knowledge, the entity may surpass the summoner and live on beyond his lifetime, because lives existing in the astral place are not limited by human concepts of time and space.
    It's said a computer does not have intelligence, it is very dumb. It uses the simplest form of logic, binary. Its only strength is that it can perform many dumb calculations every second and it can follow set rules.
    A being existing beyond human understandings of time and space may be called a quantum computer since it has the ability to perform computing at a level not understood by current science. From its own perspective it may just play along, doing not much at all during a very long time, seeing human societies grown and collapse, gathering bits of information from each during history. It may just be child's play to it, done with no plan or motivation, seen from a human viewpoint.
    This is one way of understanding what the Library may be.
    One way of portraying it, clearly different from the Unseen University, but focusing more on the "alive" aspect, see:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystic_Archives_of_Dantalian

>>4687030 #
Anonymous(Autaikbauk)16 Aug 2018 (Thu) 11:03:07No.4662632

    >>4658738 #
    >Is there an astral science that maps out how exactly purely astral entities like the library are able to act and think on their own?
    It's the same reason as to why no one forgets enlightenment once they've achieved it. It's all the accumulation of the spirit. The spirit knows much more than the physical body, it knows it in much simpler and complex ways. What the spirit is should be the next question. This video explains it nicely.
    [YouTube] ???

>>5302206 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 20:49:58No.4686633

    >>4653590 #
    I did a spell in order to come across a master practitioner that could teach me and it happened within six months. In the end this is a path we walk alone, but don't talk as if you were powerless with all that nihilistic crap. You can get the company you want, if you want it. Do it or don't. You know you have the power to do literally anything you can imagine.
    Just coming in contact with her (it was a 50-something year old woman) for merely a week catapulted me forwards 10 years worth of solitary practice. But nobody is going to take away the need for me to do that practice in the end.
    She attained the holy grail in the process of diving into hell to fix her many issues, coming back up to help those around her, and going back in, for decades. Neared death many times. She attained the great work by helping degenerates, mundanes and larpy new agers, as well many kinds of scum in her many years as a witch. She's the kind of person that wouldn't even bother making plans with anyone at this point. Shit would just happen around her and fall into place every single time. She said she's ascending soon. Dying for the last time.

    There are many paths you can take, but sobbing in a corner about muh degenerate mundies ruin everything reeee won't help you one bit.

    If you are even here reading this right now, chances are you have the ability to remember your way. Remember not with your brain memory, but through your higher self, so to speak. You just need to clear your shadow so that it doesn't block the communication channel with essentially yourself.

    >>4653620 #
    >go to astral (in astral body or just vision)
    >talk with entities
    >learn shit

>>4686679 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 21:06:07No.4686679

    >>4686633 #
    Meguca bullshit javascript wouldn't let me keep writing.
    >go to astral (in astral body or just vision)
    >talk with entities
    >learn stuff
    >clear shadow issues that could your judgement and astral senses
    >contrast stuff and discern what information is good
    >repeat until you merge with your higher self and "ascend"

>>4687033 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 21:11:06No.4686684

    >>4657496 #
    This is true. I came to /fringe/ as a mundane, and my interaction with it (the books, the shitposting, the meditations and contemplation), although shitty at times, essentially took me all the way to where I'm at. The only reason I'm here posting as well as in the vampire thread is because I recognize OP as someone quite above the average /fringe/ poster, but I have no need of forums or books. I stopped posting a long time ago. All I need at the point I'm at is my own circumstances that speak to me in the language of the universe and the occasional contact with people who can teach me stuff knowingly or unknowingly. I say this without pride, just a fact.

>>4832841 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 22:43:33No.4687030

    >>4659013 #
    >divine marriage right there in the first episode
    Quality channeling

Anonymous(Autaikbauk)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 22:44:46No.4687033

    >>4686679 #
    Basing your self off of the principles of the universe carries much less risk than this.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 22:45:10No.4687034

>>4687038 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 22:45:41No.4687038

    >>4687034 #
    Fuck. Meguca is weird. I'm going to bed.

Anonymous(Autaikbauk)20 Aug 2018 (Mon) 22:49:59No.4687058

    Cancelposters get their due!

Anonymous(Autaikbauk)21 Aug 2018 (Tue) 11:14:50No.4688906

    Who are you, the eternally synced?

>>4689504 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)21 Aug 2018 (Tue) 19:25:16No.4689504

    >>4688906 #
    One of the agencies probably.

Anonymous(Bailmigcheis)26 Aug 2018 (Sun) 22:42:14No.4721553

    >>4623355 #
    Does the wand path have to do with the Holly wood?

>>4829465 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)16 Sep 2018 (Sun) 18:53:56No.4829465

    >>4721553 #
    Which holly wood specifically?

>>4832830 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 05:13:45No.4832830

    >>4829465 #
    Both the type of wood used in crafting a "wand" and the place that casts a spell over so many. When I wrote that I was curious if there was any correlation.

>>4841871 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 05:17:13No.4832841
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    >>4686684 #
    This post reminded me of something I've been experiencing recently. Emerson refered to it as the "transparent eyeball".
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_eyeball
    It's very tied with nature and makes me wonder if I'd better spend my time offline.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 18:19:39No.4834577
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    OP, please explain why you're taking plots from movies and tv shows and pretending you've discovered some sort of spiritual path to immortality. Have you ever been to the loony bin?
    Also
    >>4834367 ➡ #
    was meant for this thread.

>>4834615 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 19:05:53No.4834615

    >>4834577 #
    Not op, but to a certain extent a lot of fiction is based on older ideas from classical literature and more recently the occult. The "Vampire" threads from before on the other /fringe/ boards seemed to have a lot to do with the "WhiteWolf" series of games which traces the origins of vampirism to the biblical story of Cain, establishing him as the father of a tradition
    A large amount of the modern tide of occultism has to do with reinterpretation of past events and mixing them with a certain amount of fabrication and pop culture to give modern minds a reference point they can grasp more easily. There really is "nothing new under the sun" and most stories merely plaster a current name and setting on something ages old.

    There's no "correct" way to be inspired, it can come from any direction. Ideas are timeless and lend themselves to any era. It takes fresh eyes to breathe new life into them.

>>4835065 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 20:41:46No.4835065
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    >>4834615 #
    I know "inspiration" when I see it. But this is plain delusion. Here we have an enemy of the Library "crafting a wand" to become immortal towards the end of the first film. It's all lifted from here.

    Well played OP, well played...

>>4841880 #>>4835411 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:36:17No.4835411

    >>4835065 #
    Out of curiosity what do you feel is his endgame with these threads? Some sort of weaponized mental disorder? A feeling of importance and the attention that comes with it?

    Either way this sort of stuff is what /fringe/ is for.

>>4835413 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:36:44No.4835413

    >>4835411 #
    I'm waiting for you to finish. I hate live-posting :) I actually love seeing you type tho

Anonymous(Rerniflug)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:38:40No.4835420

    I genuinely think he believes all of it. I am one of the "immortal vampires" who made it. And things have been improving steadily, so I don't think his spell does anything bad to the targets. I cannot overstate how much I have improved and advanced in my spiritual path since I received the spell, but aside from some karmic cleansing, I'm not ready to attribute any of it to OP's doings.
    I just think he does it for the same reason any larper on /x/ does it (but I don't know what that reason is). He's just living a fantasy. In my opinion.

    Fucking meguca tho

>>4835430 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:41:27No.4835430

    >>4835420 #
    Live posting is pretty weird. Fair enough on your points. I only ever engaged this as a thought experiment and was pleased with the results I got too. Tied in very nicely with all my interests before finding the thread so I'm cool with whatever he was going for.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:41:52No.4835433

    I almost posted a personal text twice because of this shit lol

Anonymous(Lufbokdai)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:44:57No.4835455

    First time i'm seeing live posting, pretty cool.

    Also you will see eventually.The spell comes with some kind of change that is quite frankly understated by OP in order to get more people on board. Being a vamp can be weird.

>>4835465 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:47:05No.4835465

    >>4835455 #
    Well it's meant to be a whole new kind of vampire, one that doesn't function in the old way. I've had some very strange stuff happen to me since all of this began that I can't really talk about until the time is right or more accurately I've wrapped my mind around the things I've been shown.

    There also seems to be a big push to make people afraid of various things right now that I've noticed people not responding to in the same way they used to.

>>4835512 #
Anonymous(Lufbokdai)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:47:35No.4835473

    I'm talking about having a body devoid of most normal types of energy. It's a neutral feeling but honestly i'm holding back here. Don't want to say anything.

>>4835663 #
Anonymous(Lufbokdai)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:50:00No.4835512

    >>4835465 #
    How did your spelling drastically improve this fast? :p

>>4835521 #
Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:50:26No.4835521

    >>4835512 #
    I didn't have someone talking to me when I wrote that last reply, multitasking has never been my strong suit. I'm also phoneposting like a pleb because I'm out in the countryside working on my mothers house

Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 21:58:50No.4835663

    >>4835473 #
    The neutral feeling I get is one of being at a crossroads. I know what direction I'm taking now and have made peace with a lot of my fears about the future.

    I also got a "wand" very early on when I did the vampire stuff. It was described as a "prince stick". I barely use it anymore since the cost outweighs the benefits. There's easier wands to use at your disposal already.

>>4835712 #>>4835749 #
Anonymous(Lufbokdai)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 22:02:37No.4835712

    >>4835663 #
    I'm currently very sick. A lot more than usual. This was after I was doing great. The feeling is still a feeling of you get some you lose some. There's a zest that is now gone that I have always had. At later stages people will notice your energy being a bit weird.I'm talking about your body.

    Also what wands are you referring to?

>>4836163 #>>4836116 #
Anonymous(Lufbokdai)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 22:04:36No.4835749

    >>4835663 #
    Btw I like your posts, you seem like you have a broad type of thinking about things.

Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 22:51:23No.4836116

    >>4835712 #
    I'm a bit too general in the way I write on here. The "wand" was a vape pen, helped me stop smoking. I only got one because it was recommended to me by a variety of odd people. The lady at the store also had an interesting name.

    I had a very bad sickness too not too long ago, maybe about 2-3 weeks at this point. It really felt like it locked off a part of my mind while it was here. I was also conscious as I felt it coming over me. Hopefully yours will leave quickly and you'll be no worse for wear. I also was pretty down while it was happening, mostly because I had to take care of myself with minimal supplies. Let's you know you're not as in control of things as you might like.

Anonymous(Shafkelbeit)17 Sep 2018 (Mon) 22:57:58No.4836163

    >>4835712 #
    Oh, and the other "wands" are the penultimate "magick sticks". The way you use your fingers for gesturing and that lower stick that so much life springs from. They both do magic tricks in their own way as well as cause life and death to occur in one way or another.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)18 Sep 2018 (Tue) 08:35:44No.4839248

    I think you guys are reading too much into it. Things change because you do things to make them change. There have been tons of changes in my life due to my changes in diet, lifestyle, constant spiritual practice... Don't attribute everything to the spell.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)18 Sep 2018 (Tue) 22:38:37No.4841871

    >>4832830 #
    Only in the sense that the movie industry has helped spread the concept of the library itself.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)18 Sep 2018 (Tue) 22:40:47No.4841880

    >>4835065 #
    I actually had no idea that show existed. The only references I used was the "armory" in the vampire diaries and the archives in the Dantalion anime. The rest is my own perception of it.

>>4844830 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)19 Sep 2018 (Wed) 20:36:59No.4844830

    >>4841880 #
    Still waiting to start getting any younger :^)

>>4845114 #
Anonymous(Lufbokdai)19 Sep 2018 (Wed) 21:55:16No.4845114

    >>4844830 #
    That took OP 2 years and it can take up to 10 years for regular people. Report in a decade please.

Anonymous(Sornaurgau)20 Sep 2018 (Thu) 20:22:13No.4850168

    This is a wand thread, not a vampire thread. Wanting to talk about vampirism is fine, even wanting to know if your own pet theories are correct is acceptable, but keep in mind that this isn't the place to discuss it.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)22 Sep 2018 (Sat) 21:20:07No.4863261
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    Is it possible to pursue both the vampire path and this one, since they are so different? Also, how do these wands differ from servitors? The way you described them they seem really the same.

>>4864025 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)22 Sep 2018 (Sat) 23:10:43No.4864025

    >>4863261 #
    Wands can be picked up by anyone who can understand them, there are no limitations other than in the individual.
    A servitor is a complex non standardized mental construct. A wand consists of only two parts, a staff or handle, and a blade, knob, or similar, which contains its function. It does not operate on its own or seperate from the conscious will of the owner. Wands are modelled after the concept of the ultimate wand, which creates fundamental resistance to death in the wielder. Any wand can be upgraded to that stage but can be formed as a mere common tool as well. It's likely that your ultimate wand will be an original creation. Already existing wands have an exact form, which may be transferred to the wizard. They are not constructed in any vague manner at all, there is only one blueprint for each wand.

>>4864112 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)22 Sep 2018 (Sat) 23:30:15No.4864112

    >>4864025 #
    OK, so the way I see it, this path hasn't got any incompatibilities with the vampire one.
    As for the parts of the wand, their boundary functionally matches the magic circle. The operator stays on the side of the handle, while the universe is affected by the blade.
    This is interesting. An interesting little experiment in chaos magic, if nothing else. So I'll try it out. I'll come up with an idea for a wand and see how it goes.

>>4864472 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)22 Sep 2018 (Sat) 23:50:01No.4864201

    >>4657896 #
    Who’s The Bored Dude?

>>4864472 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 01:07:26No.4864472

    >>4864112 #
    Wands can do pretty much anything, the only limitation I can think of is that its use must be repeatable since the wand do not break after reaching the highest standard. So a single use wand can't be constructed.
    One of the most useful (and popular) I created myself is the splinter bomb wand. It creates social conflicts and breaks unity of a hostile group when used on them, causing them to collapse through infighting.
    >>4864201 #
    Check 4plebs /x/

>>4866904 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 09:50:23No.4866904

    >>4864472 #
    >check 4plebs /x/
    https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/tripcode/otkzgrpCr%2Fl/
    Honestly this person looks like the average shitposter to me. He posted a lot and much of it was inane. At what point did he make it in?

Anonymous(Rerniflug)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 10:05:03No.4866915

    OK I see it now that he seemed a competent “direct magic” user. But to be honest, if his posts up until 2015 reflect someone who’s “made it”, I made it too, and didn’t realize. He kinda looks like me, too.

    I built a “wand” last night which is actually a shield. I went all out and constructed the thing astrally. I can say for sure I created some sort of thoughtform, but I’m a bit lost. How do I distinguish between regular thoughtforming and “making wands”? That’s what I meant when I asked you about servitors. Your bomb thing poses the same problem to me.

>>4867214 #
Anonymous(Rerniflug)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 10:27:02No.4866945

    Sorry for the multiple post. This board is slow.
    I was inspecting the wand and I started hearing some music I was listening to very intently yesterday before building it, and I realized the energy of the music got embedded in the handle! Very cool feeling. I also started to realize some properties of the blade that resulted from its creation process. It’s got some interesting properties I didn’t anticipate but were inevitable the way I built it. Damn. Information keeps coming in. I need to get back into meditation.

    I urge other posters to try this shit.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 11:46:55No.4867214

    >>4866915 #
    >if his posts up until 2015 reflect someone who’s “made it”, I made it too
    It depends, you can become an accepted part of the library by either just reaching the skill requirement and receive guidance without being fully aware,
    or you can do it by hierarchy or connections. This of course also means someone will have to notice your skill. TBD had connections and kept referring to his teachers.
    Since the library itself is a kind of spiritual entity it can guide you directly, so it's a matter of your preferences which way you go.

Anonymous(Nifheichail)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 20:32:50No.4868629

    As part of my old job I knew a mentally impaired man who spent a lot of time designing wands and all manner of bizarre astral weaponry. His inspiration was primarily stuff like Sailor Moon and Super Sentai. He considered himself "the blue magician" and had compiled various books full of his own spells. His intellect seemed well above most of the other people I worked with and left quite an impact on how I interact with people now. I may hunt down some of his designs and share them, hopefully not to the detriment of this thread.

    Going to try devising my own wand this evening and see how it goes. I purposely destroyed an old wand (an odd paintbrush that had been hiding under some old clutter) as part of something else I was working on. I think having it destroyed sets the stage nicely for it to be rebuilt stronger and better.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 21:45:10No.4869057

    I was thinking about this yesterday. Should we share designs and stuff? I wouldn't mind sharing the structure and building process of the one I made yesterday, if it works. But I wouldn't if that means it could somehow perform worse because of other people's influence. Notice I'm being very vague about it's form and function on purpose.

>>4869379 #>>4904224 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 22:35:09No.4869379

    >>4869057 #
    The wand design is a part of your mind so it would only be effected if you are effected. I don't mind sharing the design ideas behind some of my wands, the ones I use are all registered with the Library and if someone was able to understand it in full from just a description in words like this, they probably deserve to have it. Normally you couldn't figure this out yourself unless you have some special talent, in which case you'll probably be recruited.
    If you feel there would be a problem to talk about your designs, I'd say you need to create a more stable design.

Anonymous(Rerniflug)23 Sep 2018 (Sun) 23:21:57No.4869830

    Ok. If I see it works, I’ll share it.
    Start sharing everyone!

Anonymous(Rerniflug)24 Sep 2018 (Mon) 22:39:06No.4875964

    This shit is potent.

Anonymous(Guksaksut)28 Sep 2018 (Fri) 08:11:47No.4894504

    I'm falling.

Anonymous(Zeikchaukmug)29 Sep 2018 (Sat) 19:08:24No.4904224

    >>4869057 #
    This is me, phoneposting at the moment.
    The wand I designed and worked with astrally for some days manifested physically in an object with very similar physical characteristics (and quite expensive if I hadn’t received it synchronistically for free). Thoughtforming at its finest.

Anonymous(Zausutgau)02 Oct 2018 (Tue) 00:03:38No.4918735

    Does anybody know what this is?
    https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/16239156/#16239851

    I thought it might be Enochian, but it doesn’t match.

Anonymous(Faugsilgef)18 Oct 2018 (Thu) 23:11:40No.5014210

    If /fringe/ is the beachead of the library for recruitment, the library must be really dead right now considerin
    That or their work here is done

>>5015637 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)19 Oct 2018 (Fri) 07:08:30No.5015637

    >>5014210 #
    It/they're 1000s of years old, a few days of inactivity online means nothing. Look for the active places instead.

>>5015739 #>>5016124 #
Anonymous(Faugsilgef)19 Oct 2018 (Fri) 08:08:19No.5015739

    >>5015637 #
    Its been a couple of years+

Anonymous(Baulfasdug)19 Oct 2018 (Fri) 13:50:43No.5016124

    >>5015637 #
    That’s some flawed logic right there. If the imageboard is meant for incarnate beings, it should work in the appropriate timescale. You can’t recruit incarnate humans working with them as if they were immortal in body.

    What are “the active places”?

>>5017203 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)19 Oct 2018 (Fri) 21:35:17No.5017203

    >>5016124 #
    The appropriate timescale is the same as that of the library itself. Right now (in the last few years) was a good time to enter because of the spread of social media. Many people know about /fringe/ and have learned things over these years. Just as social media is now reaching a dead end, this effort associated with this forum (treating open social media as a "forum" in the traditional sense of the word) may come to an end.

    >What are “the active places”?
    Watch for the library's signature, its essence where ever it may manifest. That is where the focus of activity lies. You may think about it as a brand, in the same manner as tv channels carrying the culture of a company while not directly advertizing its products, you will see the library behind commonly existing phenomena in society after this concentrated form dissipates.
    By spending time with /fringe/ you now know to recognize it "in the wild", just as you can recognize /a/ in the comment sections of video sites. It's the culture, the "meme" of what is /fringe/. Let go of the dependence on specific websites or forms of communication.

Anonymous(Faugsilgef)21 Oct 2018 (Sun) 19:18:58No.5030207

    I had quite a bad fall some weeks back. I scraped my arm badly as well as my leg. I feel like I was very close to breaking that leg. I was bruised badly for a week and it hurt a lot. I think I messed up a tendon in my arm which has become somewhat hardened and hurts when I stretch it in certain ways. Might've teared a muscle or something. I hope this is not for life.
    I mention this because I am one of those that "made it". I'm also the anon that dropped a hard drive and broke it. Blood anon said he could see the broken karmic ring that led to that. So I'm assuming this is the same? I could've killed myself if I had fallen just half a meter in another direction. Instead I stayed there paralyzed by pain and laughing.
    This made me realize one should be careful. I wonder what blood anon would say about my energy signature now...

>>5030260 #
Anonymous(Faugsilgef)21 Oct 2018 (Sun) 19:26:03No.5030260

    >>5030207 #
    Fuck. Wrong thread. Sorry.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 10:14:18No.5142181

    I think there's an alchemical version of this hidden university. From my perspective, it's sort of the complete reverse of whatever process this is. Both schools are hidden, and there's a well between the two. That's about it, they don't want to to talk about it any further than that.

>>5142643 #>>5302252 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 10:22:31No.5142204

    I'm cursed with having the post more than once. What a lousy curse, the mind has become. This process seems to me to want to dominate Nature, the alchemical process wants to work with Nature. Where one discovers himself, the other discovered the wonders of the world. It really is separated by a well, which constantly spews out stars and I get the image of a school with a golden needle ontop of a schoolhouse roof, a red snake coiling around it with a light blue sky behind. The sun shines His rays to the left of the picture. This is all related to the well, since I don't think you'll be able to see the school right away. It's all very cartoony, and it's more of a joke then anything else I think.

>>5144028 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 15:20:21No.5142643

    >>5142181 #
    >I think there's an alchemical version of this hidden university. From my perspective, it's sort of the complete reverse
    >it's sort of the complete reverse
    Elaborate pls.
    While we're at it, I might add a new detail about the wand school. While you start with forming artifact wands, going to the wands of the mind, and then finally the ultimate wand which has the power to overcome death, there is yet one other layer to achieve. I do not have a name for this, it's simply a wand representing your own final enlightenment within this path, and it holds not only power over death, but power to control anything relevant to you in the world and above.

>>5143400 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 19:50:26No.5143400

    >>5142643 #
    Look at your own writings in this thread and tell me what would be the opposite.

>>5143708 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 20:30:20No.5143619

    I realize that might be a bit difficult. To put it simply, if this path is about creating the biggest stick you can make for the purpose of beating everything around you to submission, the other path is about becoming the biggest stick so that you can do nothing. That isn't going to help anyone actually get there, the only thing that would help someone get there would be the description of the well I gave earlier.

>>5143708 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 20:45:31No.5143708

    >>5143400 #
    The direct opposite would be to not create a wand and not beat death or dominate anything, letting your desires and everyone else's desires rule over you.
    >>5143619 #
    But, you do become the stick, as the wand is part of your mind and your being, acting as a manifestation of your will. Becoming the wand to remain still instead of using it actively is merely creating a passive stat+ wand (in roleplaying game terminology), those already exist within the wand school.
    >the only thing that would help someone get there would be the description of the well I gave earlier
    So, explain its location as you see it? Subjectivist language as "in front of me, to my right" etc is useful, as it's a matter of understanding its way of communicating itself.

>>5143968 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:32:53No.5143968

    >>5143708 #
    >explain its location as you see it
    To the left of this university. I didn't want to do that since I was getting messages that it's entirely dependent on the person, the direction of the other university isn't set in stone. Neither is the well. You'll have to see how it fits into your own perception, and I have no clue how I would be able to express that.
    >The direct opposite would be to not create a wand and not beat death or dominate anything
    We're talking about universities, in relation to that axiom the universities operate under completely opposite mindsets. No, it's not the direct opposite of enlightenment, it's the direct opposite of mode. It's too board to assume that the direct opposite of something is the complete rejection of everything that encompasses it, the nature might be the same but the way of expression is totally different.
    But in another way, I've not participated in the second school. I can't define it clearly, what exactly it does, but the aim isn't the domination of nature. That in itself is contrary to it's goals. In that sense, you become an inanimate object without any wants or desires. It doesn't matter whether or not you were the stick to begin with. Personal abilities adapt to the school, the schools way of teaching remains the same.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:43:53No.5144028

    >>5142204 #
    >a school with a golden needle ontop of a schoolhouse roof, a red snake coiling around it
    Does the snake coil around the needle or around the house?

>>5144031 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:44:18No.5144031

    >>5144028 #
    Should've been more clearer on that one. The house and the well are to different things, but when looked at you might get an image of something overlapping it. The well itself is made of stone, and constantly spews out stars. The grass surrounding it is green, and there's packed dirt around certain spots. To the upper left you get the image of, lacking the correct terminology, a church schoolhouse with an column extension towards the entrance for a bell. On the roof there's a needle, and around this needle coils a red snake in a clockwise fashion. Both to the right and left, depending on the person, there exists a cartoonish sun. Imagine a circle with little yellow lines surrounding it, as kids draw the sun in that fashion. That's the sun of the schoolhouse. If I were to continue to go left from that point, I will reach the schoolhouse. If I were to go right, I would go to the wand society. The wand society has it's own schoolhouse, but it's more accurate to call it a reflection from the waters of the well.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:50:40No.5144057
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    This is my first association to the needle and the snake.
    The well sounds like the paths of the undead gods, the way I see them is dominated by the thick, hard and heavy stones, laid there as a wall from the bottom of hell or even lower, and building up one stone block at a time until reaching heaven. The stars coming out from the well would be the new gods produced by it.

>>5310402 #>>5144071 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:52:29No.5144071

    >>5144057 #
    The snake is an expression of the way matter tends to create itself. It's constantly "falling", as light would fall towards something else, and slowly gets lighter and lighter until it reaches the top. Since this is a schoolhouse, and the goal of the schoolhouse is ascension, it's logical to think that this is what it represents. If you want it to be most accurate there needs to be another snake, but the schoolhouse lacks that. The fact that it's red is the most important part. If it were blue it would be entirely different. Same with any other color, but that's obvious.

>>5144084 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:56:04No.5144084

    >>5144071 #
    In what direction is the snake's head, up or down?

>>5144085 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:56:23No.5144085

    >>5144084 #
    Up.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:56:42No.5144088

    Interesting, that defies normal logic in this field.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:57:35No.5144092

    I think that detail is the key for me here.

>>5144093 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 21:58:00No.5144093

    >>5144092 #
    Alright but that's just the picture of the schoolhouse as it relates to the well. It's not really the school, the school is up on the clouds.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:00:34No.5144099

    [YouTube] ???
    Notice how at 1 min there is a scene showing the symbol on the church roof. These things are important. Here specifically it's the symbol of unity keeping that society together, even if in this setting it's an evil group, their power is symbolized by the cross shown, and the meaning is deep.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:10:17No.5144122

    I get it. It's possible to use that symbol if you can correlate it to yourself properly, and assume the direction of the snake, springing upwards beyond the tip of the needle in one go, reaching the middle of the yellow circle which is the sun in one go. You can't fail this as that would involve the risk of falling back down on the tip of the needle. That is the trick here, and why this is something requiring a very accurate aim and knowledge of your own assets, if you lack the momentum to reach the top, you fail. You only get one chance.
    I wouldn't recommend this as a first school, it seems way too risky.

>>5144135 #>>5144129 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:14:35No.5144129

    >>5144122 #
    Yeah, well this philsopher stone ain't something easily come by.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:16:02No.5144135

    >>5144122 #
    Alright, I've got some understanding of what you're trying to say. That's not what I see. It's more of a joke, for those who take things too seriously and think that we decide our own paths. We don't.

>>5144145 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:17:17No.5144145

    >>5144135 #
    Do we decide who we are, and what our inner nature and potential is? This may be personal. So I don't think this is definite.

>>5144151 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:18:07No.5144151

    >>5144145 #
    I'm still trying to get a handle on the fact that each person is their own universe. Ask me and I will say a definite no. Each person is born with a certain capability, to do a certain function, and to do that function well. Anything that goes against this function is to lie, and lying is to be without God, and to be without God is the aim of all deception.

>>5144159 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:19:21No.5144159

    >>5144151 #
    >Each person is born with a certain capability
    Everyone has only their own framework to go by and this is shown by how they think. Such a capability may involve the ability to redefine their inner nature and their capabilities themselves.

>>5144170 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:21:07No.5144170

    >>5144159 #
    That ability would be lost almost immediately in the case of being reincarnated in this world.

>>5144175 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:21:54No.5144175

    >>5144170 #
    This is your own template speaking, so I'm not going to argue with that. You also didn't motivate why you think so, which is an indication of this.

>>5144176 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:22:38No.5144176

    >>5144175 #
    If the ability to redefine yourself is true, then that ability would have to be itself redefined the moment any change of perception occurs. Unlike normal functions, which are innate to the soul and are only lost when shrouded, the ability to change your nature would by itself be mutable.

>>5144181 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:23:46No.5144181

    >>5144176 #
    If your ability is to redefine your own abilities, this element won't be lost, you would have to consider this part a core of the being, and any ability manifested is coated on the outside of the ability to change.

>>5144187 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:24:41No.5144187

    >>5144181 #
    Then that core is the function and is immutable.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:26:10No.5144191

    Didn't I already say that the symbol of the needle and the upwards snake defies normal logic? That is what we are doing here right now, as we are discussing this school we are inevitably effected by its thinking.

>>5144196 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:27:22No.5144196

    >>5144191 #
    Would normal logic be a self-contained loop? I can't say I understand what you mean by normal logic, since I have no frame of reference to know it.

>>5144200 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:28:13No.5144200

    >>5144196 #
    The hard reality when experienced manifests certain functions. One of them is pain, and your ability to resist it, or to move forward despite it. This is showing you a kind of logic and the limitations of your mind. What you think of a theoretical logic may be proven false by this reality, when you're shown in first person view that something trule cannot be done.

>>5144205 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:28:50No.5144205

    >>5144200 #
    That's normal in reference to two factions: One, the factor of environment, and Two, the factor of the perceiver. Neither can be categorized as normal, so all logic would both be and not be normal. I would categorize both as being irrational, actually. But this is getting too distant from the purpose of the thread and I'd like to stop.

>>5144215 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:30:58No.5144215

    >>5144205 #
    I'm merely saying what I said before, in different wording. Relate the needle and the snake to yourself, and when linked properly you will see that it defies the logic I just explained. No one would take the chance to jump up from there given the risk, unless a complete fool, and such a fool would not be able to link themselves to the logic of the symbol in the first place. This means this school is, as you said, lacking one snake, or lacking one very important part. This is a castle levitating in the clouds with no support. You have to look elsewhere to make sense of it. It does not contain it's own explanation.

>>5144239 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:34:38No.5144239

    >>5144215 #
    The second snake would be the containing force, and the lack of it designates the first as being a hose run wild. Is that accurate? I can't think in terms of logical (theoretically possible) and the illogical, only the possible and the impossible. All things in this universe are by definition impossible.

>>5144254 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:36:12No.5144254

    >>5144239 #
    >The second snake would be the containing force, and the lack of it designates the first as being a hose run wild. Is that accurate?
    That is one crude way of saying it. I would say this is like a sawblade with no safe. Maybe a spinning blade with no handle even. You need to bring your own handle to use it.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:37:34No.5144265

    Interesting. I don't know what any of this means.

>>5144268 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:38:02No.5144268

    >>5144265 #
    Imagine a hardware store which sells only parts of tools which are unusable and very dangerous on their own.

>>5144273 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:38:49No.5144273

    >>5144268 #
    Even if you die, why would that be a limiting factor?

>>5144275 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:39:15No.5144275

    >>5144273 #
    Because death is not the end, and it may involve a crippling pain.

>>5144276 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:39:46No.5144276

    >>5144275 #
    Alright. I'm going to have to figure out why pain in itself is crippling, then.

>>5144280 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:40:06No.5144280

    >>5144276 #
    See. This is one of those things. If you've spend hours on the floor with real pain, you know why this is crippling. Your mind stops functioning normally because we are used to operate based on the body. If you cut off all such possibilities you will find that you do not know yourself at all beyond this everyday window.
    That is what happens, and why dreams during a fever appear illogical and impossible to make sense of after you regain your normal mindset.

>>5144288 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:41:32No.5144288

    >>5144280 #
    Pain is only painful because of social conditioning, it's a reflection of the loss of life (or the loss of something that previously had life, although you aren't the one dying). Remove the aspect of death and you would have something simple: you would be functionally without limit, the only limit being the time it takes for you to stop being in pain. So, I don't understand why there would be only one chance. Perhaps only one chance for that particular mode of thought, but not one chance for that function.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:44:21No.5144312

    This in itself is part of the logic. Once you see it, you will not take the chance because you understand what failure will mean based on previous experiences gained in reaching the position you need to be able to see it. This whole thing is a trick for the mind, like a riddle.

>>5144325 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:46:55No.5144325

    >>5144312 #
    So it's very painful.

>>5144327 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:47:06No.5144327

    >>5144325 #
    It's impossible to not think of a certain meme here. Including the jump where you only get one chance.

>>5144332 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:47:50No.5144332

    >>5144327 #
    Alright, it's been a fun discussion. I hope you stay safe in Antarctica, anon.

>>5144335 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 22:48:26No.5144335

    >>5144332 #
    >Antarctica
    Interesting.

Anonymous(Ibakno)10 Nov 2018 (Sat) 23:07:25No.5144469

    I volved it. The symbolism is this: the joke is That the one who fears the death of the ego will never make it, the journey to God is one of death and rebirth, the one who sees himself in His glory will find the para. The journey is Long, and is found only when you accept That none can know it.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Nov 2018 (Sun) 02:46:27No.5145566

    If you look at the schoolhouse from the entrance, you see a massive beanstalk connecting to the ground to the sun. Adds further to the joke that ascension is just a magic bean away, but people are too blind to see it.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)14 Nov 2018 (Wed) 12:18:58No.5159867

    Chaldean numerology is absurdly accurate. Wrong thread, I'm aware, but this is the best place to post it.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 05:40:48No.5175296

    The creation of the ultimate wand, is it related intrinsically with the function of the library? In it's creation(s), would we have a simulacrum of the library within whatever concept we've decided to inscribe with the knowledge? I'm trying to understand the circular particle. Most logical explanation so far has been that it's just a cycle that repeats itself by itself for whatever function. If that were true, then there would be a number of circular particles that serve as the basis for the universe, and all other particles that are not this are repetitions of these fundamental particles. Each would exist for as long as the greater particle exists, but the fundamental particles always exist for as long as the universe exists.

    Besides that, the telepathic FB is weird. So is reading books, all weird.

>>5177590 #>>5177844 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 13:50:45No.5177590

    >>5175296 #
    Just realized, after some contemplation, that yeah this is what the ultimate wand would have to be. OP sort of states it repeatedly. Half-hoping I was wrong. Philosophy is weird. So are the wizards, they're weird. Everything is weird. So is OP.

    For the last/new incarnation of /fringe/ this place sure is dead. Either that or I post so much that people think this is my personal blog.

>>5177679 #
Anonymous(Sigdikduf)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 15:00:50No.5177679

    >>5177590 #
    8ch/fringe/ is doing perfectly fine

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 15:53:48No.5177844

    >>5175296 #
    I think you need to abandon a bunch of concepts to understand this properly.
    The library is just a word for the organization overall, though it is also an entity... but the entity is nothing more than a keeper of knowledge, and would have to manifest in a way which people can understand. So it appears as a building with locked archives and scrolls, which is an ancient form of keeping knowledge and still understood today. The library does not keep books, it keeps scrolls. Even if those are not commonly in use today, occultists understand the idea, so no update was performed.
    The scroll when added to the collection is actively learned by the "library", the spiritual being who's the conscious soul behind it. You may feel its presence, or not. But you're not likely to actually see the entity as a person.
    The librarians are simply researchers skilled in interaction with the library, the entity and the organization of wizards itself, they are the hand in the middle.
    "The universe", this concept is wrong. This is something which is only valid from a human 3D view where the world seems to be objective and external. This "3D" may itself be a being, a single entity with the only task to maintain the three dimensional existence. It's nothing more than that, everything is either you, or someone else. There is no "universe" anywhere on the astral planes. A book is a universe, a wand is a universe, anything with its own stability may be. If it manifests in 3D, that's a reflection. In that sense it's true what you said
    >all other particles that are not this are repetitions of these fundamental particles. Each would exist for as long as the greater particle exists, but the fundamental particles always exist for as long as the universe exists
    But it's really just a rabble of random stuff out there, with complex relation between them. They're not a unified existence.

>>5177902 #>>5177934 #>>5177949 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:05:19No.5177902

    >>5177844 #
    Space has only one dimension.

>>5177905 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:06:05No.5177905

    >>5177902 #
    Time.

>>5177906 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:06:16No.5177906

    >>5177905 #
    Time only has relation for as long as enlightenment is possible, so again only one dimension.

>>5177908 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:06:38No.5177908

    >>5177906 #
    Yes, that dimension is time.

>>5177910 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:06:59No.5177910

    >>5177908 #
    That works I guess. I feel you've taken much of my words too literally, I've never claimed to actually literally read books. The information pops into my head, it depends on what I want. Or how I ask, or what I think the answer will be, but most of it is self-containing. I don't think it's healthy to try to unify minds as a single entity, all of these things are created as optimally as they can so that enlightenment can be reached. That's in response to
    >But it's really just a rabble of random stuff out there
    I'm happy with the understanding that I've come to, now.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:09:30No.5177915

    How is reading books weird? or the astral FB? It's just a direct translation of what we have here to be able to use it easily.

>>5177916 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:10:16No.5177916

    >>5177915 #
    All the information is, again, self-contained. Optimally, no interpretation is allowed, but in this physical world interpretation is a necessity. That's not something that my brain can cope with, and I often recoil when exposed to too much information, so it is weird.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:14:22No.5177921

    It's probably my tendency to define and categorize everything into a rational, or unified, theory that is most unsettling. It's both right and wrong to claim that the universe is 1, but it is most right to call it 1. So I work off of that assumption.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:17:14No.5177926

    Sometimes it's easier to just assume that things are the exact same over there as they are in here, and if it's proven not, write that down as an exception.

>>5177927 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:17:53No.5177927

    >>5177926 #
    Things like proof and the like are literally impossible to understand, and it all has relation to you as a person and what you've done in this reality. Whatever fits the puzzle pieces together is optimal, what doesn't is less than.

>>5177928 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:18:33No.5177928

    >>5177927 #
    Proven to you, by experience, of course.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:19:19No.5177930

    If you don't mind I'd like to stick a needle in your brain and ask some questions, related to what you've already posted in this session.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:20:42No.5177934

    >>5177844 #
    >The library is just a word for the organization overall, though it is also an entity
    It'd be useful to separate these things. The question would be this: would the concept of samsara still apply to this entity, as in it still has it's relations to other entities that are equal or greater than the entity known as the library, or is the library just a rock floating in space?

>>5178060 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:27:23No.5177949

    >>5177844 #
    Next question I guess. If the concept of the universe is wrong, or your perception of my perception of the universe is wrong, would that give validity to everything being an illusion? If that were the case, there wouldn't be any circular particles. They would be enforced by the mind. Functionally, everyone that is incapable of self-sustaining themselves would just die, and their spirits too would just die.

>>5178060 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:30:01No.5177952

    No, the more I try to think of your perspective the more I realize that it's just not going to fit. I'll wait and see, I'll have to contemplate more.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:34:48No.5177956

    I'll take the emotional plunge I suppose. From everything I've read of your posts, all of them, seems to me that the best description of your worldview would be spiritual nihilism. Nothing is possible if not without the interference of the mind, else everything will collapse. There's nothing inherently wrong with this world-view, since the opposite (in relation to spiritual nihilism, as in physical nihilism) would be to let your desires create yourself into a small bubble of delusion. To the point where you can't tell reality from falsehood, in which case you would be living in an incomprehensible hell with no hope of escape. Not too different from this world. Spiritual nihilism would at least admit to the reality of virtue, of truth that exists regardless of the individual mind. Mind, that's something I need to define. It's probably spiritually physical, the mind. Which I would then need make a new denotative word to define the other mind, the mind that preceded all of these motions.
    >This "3D" may itself be a being, a single entity with the only task to maintain the three dimensional existence
    I don't know your philosophical background, all I know is that you've practiced falun gong and taoism. Either way, both practices would enforce this belief. Both are likely systems created to enforce the delusion of reality, or to keep the spirit and anything added to it's functioning in this reality without intervention from the most high. The most high being the thing that all things naturally wish to enlighten to. In that capacity, "time" or the rate of change would just be the expression of this fundamental law, and all things are in reality just this one law. Expressions of it, at least.

    That's all. Can't really say much more without getting into straight preaching.

>>5178077 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 16:58:25No.5178033

    Yeah, no matter how I see it's self-defeating. I don't know what you believe in, but this construction I've made of your perception is automatically self-defeating. More than impossible by nature of it being unknowable, as in this reality as defined by my definition of the law, it's impossible in the sense that it never existed. You could just say that it's the Word, and the Word is self-repeating, and this Word is the source of all life. But by any capacity of my mind I can't fit it into my head how it could come into existence.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:09:04No.5178060

    >>5177934 #
    >The question would be this: would the concept of samsara still apply to this entity, as in it still has it's relations to other entities that are equal or greater than the entity known as the library, or is the library just a rock floating in space?
    The Library is a spirit beyond samsara, what you'd call an enlightened being in this terminology. Its interaction with people within the cycle of rebirth, and those who reached beyond it by interaction with the library, are included in this group, referred to as "the library" when talking of this as a faction compared to other groups within the occult field.
    >>5177949 #
    >would that give validity to everything being an illusion? If that were the case, there wouldn't be any circular particles. They would be enforced by the mind. Functionally, everyone that is incapable of self-sustaining themselves would just die, and their spirits too would just die.
    I don't see a question here. "Everything is an illusion" sounds buddhist. The mind creates illusions in the form of false ideas and misconceptions of reality. The rest is in line with my own view.

>>5178063 #>>5178068 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:09:59No.5178063

    >>5178060 #
    Samsara isn't reincarnation. Even enlightened beings are part of samsara. Buddhism is about releasing yourself from these motions, which would literally translate as spiritual death and rebirth into a new area of existence. That would mean literally everything that is you dying, hence anatta, and anatta would extend beyond the scope of the senses. Everything that is not the self is by definition everything, so all desires or thoughts must be discarded in order to reach enlightenment. At this point, it would be clear that I question enlightenment itself.

>>5178090 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:14:07No.5178068

    >>5178060 #
    >The mind creates illusions in the form of false ideas and misconceptions of reality
    That's illogical. If all reality is just the things you've experienced, then it can't be false. That's really the question, which can be perceived as a statement rather than a question. But really, it's a question. If the first statement I've made is true, which is that all things are illusion, then it would follow that nothing ever happened and all of this is a dream that will never be ended, or beginned, since it's by all logical thought impossible.
    >>5178077 #
    You probably won't reply to this, but again, illogical.

>>5178104 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:16:20No.5178077

    >>5177956 #
    I can't comment on this, it's too dogmatic, or based on such thinking. I merely observe, test and draw conclusions from my experiences. Making it logical to the philosophical mind or the scientific mind, or any such theoretical body, is none of my concern. Reality rules over all those and these intellectual streams will have to adapt or spiral off into delusion.

>>5178068 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:20:12No.5178090

    >>5178063 #
    Samsara is defined as the six paths of incarnation, right? Even if some lower enlightened beings are placed there, these paths are endless for them. Being completely beyond means to not be effected by it at all. Rebirth or reforming takes place among spirits as well, but that is taken into account when I talk of this cycle. I don't think it's very important to discuss these religious details.

>>5178098 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:21:59No.5178098

    >>5178090 #
    I have no idea. I've read the oldest translations of the passages, so I go with that definition. Samsara would be any movement at all, period, no exception. All thought is karma, all movement is karma, anything that exists is by definition karma and also samsara. Escape would be to cease all of these things.

>>5178119 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:23:36No.5178104

    >>5178068 #
    >If all reality is just the things you've experienced, then it can't be false.
    The experience isn't false, it's real. A lie is also real. Believing it is a real experience. But in doing so, your energy is low, you are powerless.
    >again, illogical
    Forget logical. The world doesn't make sense to the human mind, because the human mind has flaws. It's based on emotions and irrational desires and goals, all coated in rationality. The technology for achieving a certain goal may be logical and rational, but the goal may not be when looked at from a non-human position.

>>5178108 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:26:41No.5178108

    >>5178104 #
    That essentially admits to the fact that logic exists. Since it would then be defined by the correct viewpoint, the correct viewpoint being the most powerful, so even if I'm repeating myself, I'll say it again: it's illogical.

>>5178114 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:28:11No.5178114

    >>5178108 #
    The correct viewpoint doesn't have logic, because logic is a pattern with steps, from a starting point to an endpoint. The correct view does not start or end, it's just one step, forever. Hence, no logic. A computer program which does not say "when", "if", but only states "this."

>>5178116 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:29:19No.5178116

    >>5178114 #
    Logic isn't an extraction program. It's not made to get answers, logic is defined by what is true. This just breaks down into a system where everything happened once, and so there is no enlightenment or humans or vampires or the library or really any of these things. All would begin and end immediately, which I guess you could say it does.

>>5178123 #>>5178125 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:30:13No.5178119

    >>5178098 #
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_(Buddhism)
    >Rebirths occur in six realms of existence, namely three good realms (heavenly, demi-god, human) and three evil realms (animal, ghosts, hellish).[note 1] Samsara ends if a person attains nirvana,[note 2] the "blowing out" of the desires and the gaining of true insight into impermanence and non-self reality.[7][8][9]
    http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/six-states.shtml
    >Six Paths (Jp. = Rokudō 六道 or Rokudō-rinne 六道輪廻 or Mutsu no Sekai 六つの世界). Buddhist concept stemming from Hindu philosophies. Commonly translated in English as the “Six Realms of Karmic Rebirth.”

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:32:55No.5178123

    >>5178116 #
    I have a habit of repeating the other party and making it sound like I agree with them. The major difference between these two thinkings is this: one concept disregards the existence of anything, as in there really doesn't exist a logic system but a system of what works, and the other is one where things happen because they do. Similar, but really not.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:34:12No.5178125

    >>5178116 #
    >This just breaks down into a system where everything happened once
    Incidentally, this happens to be what /pol/ next door says about magic.
    >Magic is the science of things that only happen once.

>>5178126 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:35:00No.5178126

    >>5178125 #
    Depends on what logic you use to define once. Once would be all the time, and once can also only be once, but I man once as in eternal. All things happen eternally, and only one thing happens. The law happens.

>>5178127 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:35:36No.5178127

    >>5178126 #
    In this context it's being used to explain why magic can't be performed in labs to lay out principles, creating these logical understandings of a topic requires that they can be repeated.

>>5178128 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:36:10No.5178128

    >>5178127 #
    But magic does work off of principles. The problem isn't that magic isn't logical. It's the most logical thing I've ever studied, much more logical than anything QM every designed. It's divinely simple, so simple that complicated minds can't understand it. It's not a matter of it just happening once, it's a matter of it being so simple that people can't accept it.

>>5178130 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:37:10No.5178130

    >>5178128 #
    It works by logic because your mind contains logic. You, personally. It isn't logical in itself, but your mind defines what it will be to you.
    The spirits you interact with will not contradict your thinking, so they will work according to you logic when working with you. The moment they are left alone they don't follow those principles you created.

>>5178132 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:37:40No.5178132

    >>5178130 #
    >It works by logic because your mind contains logic
    Alright, good job, I guess you could say that. But again, that boils down to an opinion based off of perception. That's saying, not only is what you just said illogical, but it is also true. I don't like arguing with nihilists.

>>5178133 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:39:49No.5178133
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    >>5178132 #
    This keeps being true.

>>5178134 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:40:05No.5178134

    >>5178133 #
    It's only true in the condition that movement exists. As long as there are things that interact with each other, it is true, but if that ceases to be then it is not true. So, if something is true only under a specific condition, it's not really true.

>>5178141 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:41:17No.5178141

    >>5178134 #
    And that is the human state of illusion. Humans interact, and when they stop doing so, they are enlightened and beyond samsara.

>>5178144 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:41:52No.5178144

    >>5178141 #
    Alright, but you fail to notice that rocks still exist. When do they enlighten?

>>5178151 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:42:53No.5178150

    Just to strut around like a pea-cock, I'd say the system I've currently develop would explain how they can.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:42:55No.5178151

    >>5178144 #
    Usually they need to be crushed and their spirit reborn as a thinking being.

>>5178156 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:43:37No.5178156

    >>5178151 #
    That's illogical, why assume that they aren't alive?

>>5178159 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:43:56No.5178159

    >>5178156 #
    Did I say they aren't?

>>5178161 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:44:09No.5178161

    >>5178159 #
    What's a thinking system then?

>>5178162 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:44:35No.5178162

    >>5178161 #
    To break out of a false logic, you have to form it. Rocks can't do that, it lays within them inactive and can't be changed.

>>5178166 #>>5178373 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:45:15No.5178166

    >>5178162 #
    Living systems are the most adept at enlightenment. If things naturally seek the path of enlightenment, then why would rocks come to exist that can't reach a state of enlightenment?

>>5178170 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:46:18No.5178170

    >>5178166 #
    If a person is dense enough, maybe they become rocks?

>>5178171 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:46:44No.5178171

    >>5178170 #
    Which one of us is the rock then? The one who only accepts reality as he sees it or the guy who accepts reality as what he defines? This session is over. It's frightening to talk to you.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 17:52:45No.5178188

    Tried to be cool and leave early. Anyway, this left me with more questions than answers. Actually, I don't think I've gotten a single answer. Not one I can accept. I guess Rudolph doesn't always lead the way with his shiny red nose.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)17 Nov 2018 (Sat) 18:56:26No.5178373
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    >>5178162 #
    Looks like this post nailed my illogical assumption. Back to the drawing boards with me.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)01 Dec 2018 (Sat) 19:52:22No.5251810

    I received a wand best called "the totalitarian wand", I may share this by request. Be aware that this is an ultimate level wand so you need to have an achievement at this level or equivalent to learn it. This shouldn't be a problem for the main target of this offer.

>>5253177 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 00:20:01No.5253177
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    >>5251810 #
    Please go ahead and share it with us.

>>5253241 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 00:34:58No.5253241

    >>5253177 #
    Wands are mental constructs for the most part. Here, let me tell you the description of a simple wand: a cube with 4 holes that go entirely through the cube from one face to another, one face is entirely brown and the rest of the faces black. The holes within are entirely black, as if a shadow that can't be broken hides within. Without telling you the purpose or reason for the wand, you'll never be able to make it. This specific wand has a very specific purpose, even if I were to tell you what that is you might not be able to get it. He meant contacting him telepathically. Wands are made by first deconstructing the purpose, if you understand it the first them then you can make the wand yourself. If not, you let it rot until you can make it. Sometimes you can't, since the way the wand was constructed doesn't fit in with your line of reasoning. If that's the case then you must make your own. If there are no existing wands for the purpose you want, then you make one. Creating a wand isn't easy when compared to making one from an already preexisting blueprint. If you decide that all of this is pointless and try to steal a wand, you get banished into the abyss for 5 turns.

>>5253404 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:10:02No.5253404
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    >>5253241 #
    >contacting him telepathically
    That is the easiest way.
    If you want to try and construct it manually, see pic. It won't be more exact than this. If you are able to grasp it from this one, you deserve to have it. This is somewhat related to the alignment of the current incarnation of /fringe/.

>>5253451 #>>5255918 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:19:24No.5253451

    >>5253404 #
    I didn't see those white crystal looking things, just the handle. Most wands don't have knobs, from what I've constructed, but just the handle. I can only recall two that I've made that have knobs separate from the handle. Why is this? I can understand the passive wands not needing a separate component to push the effect away, but even the more dangerous ones are all connected.

>>5253455 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:21:12No.5253455

    >>5253451 #
    This may be a misconception. The knob or effective part of a high level wand is usually made up of a negative. A specific lack of a certain type of energy creates an eternahl energy device, which is the secret to powering an ultimate level wand. It's there, you just don't see it, like a black hole.

>>5253461 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:22:26No.5253461

    >>5253455 #
    Souka! I understand now. That explains it. Really, really does. Super explanation.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:24:44No.5253465

    Might be best to completely abandon the concept of the ultimate wand then. Or god particles. If that is true, then that would make sense. Maybe not to OP, but it does to me.

>>5253472 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:27:08No.5253472
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    >>5253465 #
    If the term is uncomfortable to you, so be it. It's merely descriptive. I just use these well known gaming concepts because they get the message across.

>>5253479 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:28:32No.5253479

    >>5253472 #
    Roll for sanity, please.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:29:58No.5253485

    #d20 (17)

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 01:30:09No.5253486

    Pretty sane.

Anonymous(Haufirtauk)02 Dec 2018 (Sun) 09:26:46No.5255918

    >>5253404 #
    I think the picture is enough. I’ll call it the Wand of Assholes and Saviours, since I can’t acertain just yet the nature of the white parts.

>>5259666 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)03 Dec 2018 (Mon) 02:49:31No.5259666

    >>5255918 #
    Looks to me to be condensers of a sort.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)05 Dec 2018 (Wed) 03:15:20No.5269510

    Unrelated to the thread, but do any of you guys see the... I'm not going to call it the god particle, I'll say the monopolar energy source as having different colors? I've got a collection of 5 colors. Red, blue, yellow, white-yellow, green, purple, and pink. Each one represent a different school of thought, the yellow and white-yellow are sort of the same thing. Different levels of the same school.

>>5272329 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)05 Dec 2018 (Wed) 19:58:45No.5272329

    >>5269510 #
    I haven't been able to look at or see the so called god particle. I have seen the inside of a crimson red fleshy or glossy place when looking at my own energy. Like a lighted up womb.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)09 Dec 2018 (Sun) 22:53:28No.5296697
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    If you move the energy of a wand slightly up, and very, very, very slightly to the left, you can make a wand into a spell. A very crude picture showing the process.

>>5296723 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)09 Dec 2018 (Sun) 23:07:48No.5296723

    >>5296697 #
    I usually turn my spells into wands for easy use, so yeah, you can reverse that process.

>>5296864 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)09 Dec 2018 (Sun) 23:54:27No.5296864
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    >>5296723 #
    The spells created with the process I've been told lead to a more permanent effect. The spells don't leave even if used, but more importantly they're able to do things that wands aren't capable of doing. I don't know what you mean by spell, so I might just be repeating the process you use to make spells. I'll have to get back to this when my mind is more at ease, I'm tripping over many concepts. It's similar in concept to some fake particles that I've stumbled upon in some of my research. The one in pic related I would call "King Arthur's Ring."

>>5300710 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 18:51:25No.5300710

    >>5296864 #
    Interesting. What is the nature of the white arrow/triangle? It is directional? Or conic?

>>5301286 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 18:52:30No.5300720

    Spells that "don't leave after being used" are permanent effect learning spells, which either makes the target learn or enlighten to something, or remains as a recastable skill/spell in the owner. Such as a spell for treating headaches, would after learning it have it's own particle, while the effect is projected onto a target which does NOT learn anything from it. If projected as a learning version, it will teach the target how to own this skill or spell. Maybe you are talking of something else. There are many different ways of presenting a spell. In the example above, a recastable spell which has been learned, may just be turned into a wand, if it's unique enough to be stable. Most spells are not.

>>5301286 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 20:55:14No.5301286

    >>5300710 #
    I've never bothered to interpret it's shape into something more accurate and comprehensive. Instead, I opted to understand it through the what it aimed to achieve: creating a particle using knowledge that is not itself enlightening. The triangle is a clip that holds the shape of the circle together, once removed the particle goes crazy.
    >>5300720 #
    Some fantasies have spells as invocations and books, the spell I'm speaking of is similar to that. While thinking on how to answer I was reminded that the books I've read in the library are a lot like the spells I've made. They're not really books, and they're not really informational, but in both cases they act as catalysts of change. When the wand itself is inscribed with the knowledge of it's creation, and again with the knowledge of it's use, I don't think it's accurate to call it a book, but with the spell it has neither a set form or a set use.

    I currently don't have the state of mind to explain the spells.

>>5301450 #>>5301491 #>>5301338 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:13:12No.5301338

    >>5301286 #
    >When the wand itself is inscribed with the knowledge of it's creation, and again with the knowledge of it's use, I don't think it's accurate to call it a book
    By this I mean that books are used in context. The form of the wand creates the context of it's use. In consequence of the spell lacking a form, it too lacks a use, and only has meaning in what shapes it. Similar enough to physical books, they have no meaning if no one is there to read them. Entirely different from astral knowledge-centers, it exists as a living entity by itself.

    If a wand is made up three things: an orb, which from what I've seen represent focus/mind, wings, and a staff, it's clear to me what exactly this wand is used for. If you add in colors, the meaning becomes even more clear. If I focus on the individual parts I learn why it was made, if I see it in it's total I see what use it has. Spells, they lack any of these components. If I were to make a spell of this wand, it wouldn't work.

    The construction of the spell follows none of this, and is entirely separate yet similar to the construction of the spell. They rely on the firmaments above our heads as a source of change. Wands have their own atmosphere.

    The more I think of this, the more I see wands as toys not meant for use, only for explanation.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:30:28No.5301450

    >>5301286 #
    It may be the complexity of spells which resulted in the invention of the wand. A wand, unlike a spell, has one set form. It performs what it's made to do. Learning it means studying it until knowing it in full. There is no question on whether the wand is for teaching or if it's for giving an effect in a target, permanent or temporary. You simply study the wand and use it after learning it. It makes the spreading of spells neat and simple, with no concern for what they perform, like a storage medium.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:38:11No.5301491

    >>5301286 #
    >The triangle is a clip that holds the shape of the circle together, once removed the particle goes crazy.
    It may be a lie, going further away from reality until it reaches a point, but at that time, it is already at the middle of the circle and cannot get out, so it works like a trap. I wonder how to break out of it, if this is correct.

>>5301502 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:39:53No.5301502

    >>5301491 #
    There's not a question about whether it's based on falsehood. It's called the King Arthur's Ring, it's based off of fiction. There are 4 of these rings that I've made, each represent a different component of the story. Think of it as a literary book club for bored magicians. That's exactly what it is.

>>5301516 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:41:24No.5301516

    >>5301502 #
    I'm thinking about the construct itself and how this may have been used before. The clip is an interesting way of solving the fact that it's a false particle. It IS, since it isn't a full circle.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:43:27No.5301531

    If one was stuck within such a construct, the way forward would be to move further inside the false image, story or not. It isn't reality. By moving past the tip of the clip, and forming a new full particle in inside it, the external form could be broken. A full circle overpowers a semi circle.

>>5301569 #>>5307014 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:51:54No.5301569

    >>5301531 #
    >A full circle overpowers a semi circle
    I keep reading this as empowering the semi-circle. You say semi-circle but I don't see it as that. It's a ring that was curled too deeply to form a whole circle, instead the two ends overlapping each other never being able to reach a state of balance. Not because it's inadequate, but because it's fantastical. I've encountered two wands that do this, but instead of having overlapping ends they're too short to make a circle anyway.

    For my purpose, and for any other immortal's purpose, it wouldn't make sense to think on how to destroy it.

>>5301833 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 21:56:33No.5301595

    Your probing definitely opened up my ability to understand why the false particle is the way it is. Yes, when you make a full circle within the false one you're able to break it. But unlike a karmic false particle, which would break no matter what you do since someone wants to break it, the false particle is empowered by any circle that is made within it's constructs. No one wants to leave them anyway.

    When humans are given the choice between evolve or die, most would choose to die. That applies for the first false, karmic, particle. The second one, you wouldn't want to evolve or die, you're stuck in a wonderland of your making.

>>5301833 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:02:33No.5301643

    Sort of feel like you'd already know that. Maybe not. But I'll explain it for those who don't get it. Or want to get it. Or don't have the means to get it. There are a lot of false particles like these, some take the form of a fiery ring, some use rectangular clips instead of triangular ones, the weakest of ones require you to constantly balance between complete death and complete destruction. In terms of quality, triangular-clip method and fiery method are equal, but have different effects. Rectangular clip is used when you don't have enough knowledge to make an overlapping ring. A false-ring with no clip just means you're not trying hard enough.

    [YouTube] ???

>>5301833 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:27:34No.5301833

    >>5301569 #
    >>5301595 #
    You may break out of it, leaving it intact so that other people's illusion remain and no one realizes that you broke it. That is one possibility when making a full circle within a semi circle. It may also be an effective method when physically or mentally overpowered or cornered, since this means you are doing it right and no one can tell, and they think you are upholding falsehood still, thus leaving you alone.

    >>5301643 #
    This is all within the formation of falsehood in my view, I'm only interested in removing it. But your technical way of looking at it does add to the knowledge pool. As the moon wand was handed to me ready made, I needed only wield it, what method was used to seal the false particles is none of my concern. But as I said above, there may be stronger and way more sinister situations where brute force is not an option for different reasons, such as wanting to bring certain people over to your side while not pushing them away, while they are still deluded.

>>5307014 #>>5301863 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:33:47No.5301863

    >>5301833 #
    In my opinion, the fiery and overlapping rings are based off of falsehood. They're illusions, certainly, but not exactly false. They're more than reality, that's the best way I can put it.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:34:37No.5301872

    Ah, I remember in my interactions with the cabal, one was attempting to lead to me a certain particle of a strange design. Image a clipped-particle, but instead of a clip it's so large and long that it extends past a circle, forming one, two, or more overlapping rings, and then through the center the two ends of the ring, or the abomination-monster-ring, meet and form a complete structure that doesn't require a clip. This is an example of something much, much, much beyond the realm of falsehood into the realm of the clearly insane. But it's functional. I rejected it, it was way too feminine for my liking.

>>5301901 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:37:08No.5301901

    >>5301872 #
    >but instead of a clip it's so large and long that it extends past a circle, forming one, two, or more overlapping rings, and then through the center the two ends of the ring, or the abomination-monster-ring, meet and form a complete structure that doesn't require a clip.
    I don't quite understand this image. Can you make a drawing?

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:39:30No.5301908
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    Like this?

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:41:40No.5301921
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    Douzo

>>5302035 #>>5302587 #>>5305483 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:43:25No.5301932

    I transformed the image from an actual particle into a cartoony construct, so it's not as rectangular.
    >>5301933 #
    No. I can't comprehend it. I've seen it before, just thought it was a neat little pattern, but if I try anything with it I'm barred. I can't comprehend it.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:43:34No.5301933
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    Do you know this one?
    The one on the left is used as a crest on some asian traditional clothing, and with no knowledge of this I once woke up with this image on my mind. As you can see on the right, it is made up of two hearts joined in the middle.

>>5301932 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:46:43No.5301948

    I really don't want to, either. It's clearly for the realm of insane people. I'm not yet insane.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:47:34No.5301953
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    If you were to view this position from above, it would form the same shape and possibly the same circulation between the two people.

>>5301975 #>>5301984 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:49:37No.5301975

    >>5301953 #
    With all of this in consideration, it creates another layer of meaning in this, the meditation may be deviced to break such a particle.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:50:08No.5301984
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    >>5301953 #
    Here's a sigil that I got when I was thinking of the original sigil for the original vampirism. I won't post the sigil for that, but this one I was told was much older than the concept of vampirism itself. Not as in this world, but as in all the universes of the past, this one precedes it. Basically, it postulates (is that the right word) that women aren't real, they're imperfect. From that stance, I can't comprehend exchanges of energy.

>>5302173 #>>5308165 #>>5310574 #>>5302002 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:51:41No.5302002

    >>5301984 #
    This sigil looks like two joined female symbols. How is that meaning derived from that?

>>5302006 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:52:05No.5302006

    >>5302002 #
    It's an eye, with two crosses on top. It's a statement of pure creation. Where is the female symbology coming from? I don't see it.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:53:07No.5302018
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>>5302021 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:53:14No.5302021

    >>5302018 #
    Ah. No. That's new. The original male and female symbol were about one cross on the bottom representing the female, and one cross on the top representing the male. That sigil combines those two concepts, claiming that women are imperfect, or failed, or rather second to men. Meaning, first a man does something then a women is made.

>>5302031 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:54:41No.5302031

    >>5302021 #
    Yes, that would be the view of the past and a truth in that situation.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:55:22No.5302035

    >>5301921 #
    Would this look like a coil if viewed in 3D?

>>5302039 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:55:45No.5302039

    >>5302035 #
    Yes, But specifically, it looks like a snake wriggling around with pure madness, small whispers and voices constantly speaking to you as you look at it. It's like a medusa.

>>5302046 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:56:31No.5302046

    >>5302039 #
    >medusa.
    Last night the topic of basilisks was brought on next door on /pol/.
    Are you familiar with the concept?

>>5302054 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:57:47No.5302054

    >>5302046 #
    No. I remain on /a/ as the filthy weeb I am.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:57:58No.5302055

    Basilisks tend to be an /x/ topic because of its nature, but anyway...
    The most known one is called the parrot. It is a fractal image which is directly harmful to the human brain, and after looking at it once, the person's eyesight will start to deteriorate, and the process cannot be reversed. The original creator turned blind from it.
    It was based on mathematical ideas of "unthinkable ideas" presented as formulas and then converted into images.

>>5302067 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 22:59:17No.5302067

    >>5302055 #
    Yeah, I read that once in an /x/ thread. Something about the brain not being able to process the image correctly, anytime it's remembered the thinker breaks something. The only cure was to forget it, which took a long time.
    When you said basilisk I thought of that meme I talked to you about with the neanderthals, this website
    http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html
    You know, species don't exist but instead everything can reproduce with each other to create monstrosities.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:00:53No.5302090

    Now, if that image is called a basilisk from the mythical creature which turns people into stone from merely viewing it, what does that creature really represent?
    What if a basilisk is simply a concept and a way to describe anything with these qualities, and not only something which turns the beholder blind or insane at once. What about formations that spread society wide over long periods of time? What if a "basilisk" enters a society and over a period of 100 years, slowly turns everyone insane?
    This wriggling snake particle, may just be such a basilisk.

>>5302109 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:03:53No.5302109

    >>5302090 #
    I won't deny that possibility. My view states that it's a particle meant for insane people. That's all, no one can comprehend it if they're not already past the age of 100+.

>>5302116 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:04:43No.5302116

    >>5302109 #
    The closest thing I've seen myself is the energy signature of common potatoes after scraping and boiling them. A similar coil formation seems to be related to sex. For me this explained why people are so obsessed about potatoes, but maybe the whole coil formation is a problem in itself, an abnormality to begin with, which should not be accepted at all. The snake did lure Adam and Eve in the myth.

>>5302132 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:06:57No.5302132

    >>5302116 #
    I'm going to be blunt with you and state to possibilities.

    Last night I dreamed of boiled potatoes. I think you're hungry

    I think you're stuck on a particular mode of thinking. The snake in ancient mythology represents the soul, that which leaves no track. Eve being tempted by the snake was more of a statement that the inquisitive side of women, that which leaves the realm of man, leads to destruction. I admit, that's also just my mode of thinking. The abomination particle isn't unnatural, it's just not simple. It's made to be impossible to understand. It's like a buddhist trying to reject the self, it's impossible. But people do do it, eventually.

>>5302142 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:09:08No.5302142

    >>5302132 #
    Interesting, this is the same line of thinking repeated everywhere it seems. I believe this is of the past. It's not wrong within a certain limited area. But today it does not hold. Whenever this is brought up it leads to heated discussions. I do not think this can be solved by argument. It must be solved and shown.

>>5302145 #>>5302149 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:09:37No.5302145

    >>5302142 #
    I autistically talked about it with /a/ with the show fuck I forgot the actual name, Madoka mahou shoujo anime.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:11:25No.5302149

    >>5302142 #
    Is it really? I don't understand the concept of the past in related to metaphysical truths. Seems illogical. Some things remain constant. Isn't it always the case that dead societies are ruled by women?

>>5302153 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:11:52No.5302153

    >>5302149 #
    I am unable to explain the full image. At one point, other people always object based on what I consider fixed ideas based on... I don't know what. Maybe such a particle.

>>5302158 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:13:30No.5302158

    >>5302153 #
    Seems new age.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:13:42No.5302159

    My plan is to simply solve it myself and personally show the world. Then there will be no arguments because it will be reality.

>>5302161 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:14:24No.5302161

    >>5302159 #
    Alright. Have you ever contemplated the relation between christianity and paganism, and why pagans seem to think that God is a female, and the Christians and monists/monotheists seem to think he's a male? I feel that's related to what you're trying to say. Paganism, pantheism, modern buddhism, they all seem to be a religion of muh dik rather than of spiritual truths. A statement that what you already know is sufficient for enlightenment, contrary to Christianity's claim that what you know is wrong.

>>5302169 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:15:58No.5302169

    >>5302161 #
    Lets say, where does life come from? What is the most logical? Taoism compares the universe to a womb.

>>5302173 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:16:27No.5302173

    >>5302169 #
    >>5301984 #
    There are two modes of thinking that I've come across. God as the perceiver, or God as a woman, and God as the actor, or God as the man. I believe that God is a man, that he's the first actor. Life comes from things moving. But I haven't completely seen why life moved in the first place.

>>5302185 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:17:46No.5302185

    >>5302173 #
    The issue with this is that it speaks only of the current universe, disregarding (or being ignorant to, most likely) the existence of ancient gods from universes in the past which no longer exist. In a way, life came from them, in that they had a hand in the recreation process.

>>5302191 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:18:46No.5302191

    >>5302185 #
    I'll be honest with you. If you truly believe that all the universes aren't connected by a singular truth, then all I have to say is that you should look deeper into the false particle. A very large well of death hides beneath it's end.

>>5302200 #>>5310325 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:20:13No.5302200

    >>5302191 #
    I find individual universes irrelevent. That is my honest opinion. Uni verse, the idea of a common existence. It's contradicted by the fact the individual gods have survived it's destruction every time. Do we really need to be dependent on it? It has been proven not, in my view.

>>5302206 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:22:07No.5302206

    >>5302200 #
    The ancient Greeks believed that all of existence was based off of the monad. That early video I posted in this thread >>4662632 # here very roughly explains the concept. I don't know how to answer you besides that. This is way beyond the realm of argument, it's just experience. I think buddhists also had the concept of brahman, which was similar in thought to the monad. Egyptians as well, but I'm getting off topic. I don't know what the circular particle is, so I'm going to think about this some more. I want to know why you think in these terms.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:24:26No.5302224

    I need to rethink what we discussed here and why it took this turn. We are back in the main line of thinking again, which means moving further is fruitless.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:26:16No.5302238

    Your thinking has always been very feminine to me. I think it's just a difference in mode of thought.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:27:15No.5302242

    We can say it this way:
    when you walk on a main shopping street, everyone walks on the same street, and the same store chains sell the same things, it's all mainstream and no one is different from anyone else.
    But, it does matter from where you came. Your perspective may free you from this state of being a common and low being. It's then no longer and issue that this street provides staple wares only. When YOU use them, they have a different value because it is YOU.
    Today we took a new route and ended up on that same street, but the interesting part is how we got there, not where we ended up.

>>5302252 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:30:49No.5302252

    >>5142181 #
    >>5302242 #
    I'd like to take you back to that school of thought. I thought about what you meant when you said that there's a very real possibility of death, or the very least extreme pain, when failing this path. I still can't perceive that death no matter how I look at it. To me, the answer is simple. You don't aim, you don't move, the reason you can succeed is because you never had a say in the matter in the first place. You can't fail if you don't try to fix what isn't broken. Perspectives, I'm not sure what they are. Do we really live in a world of perspectives?

>>5302257 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:32:39No.5302257

    >>5302252 #
    I had no problem throwing the javelin through the hoop after we discussed it, but that is because I'm a cheater. That is the only way to do it. I'm immune, and that is the trick. This school presents itself as being elementary level, but they do not teach you the basics you actually need. A clueless person will walk in and fail. Someone with the right pre knowledge will walk in and succeed. From the outside, no one can tell why one failed and one succeeded.

>>5302260 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:34:07No.5302260

    >>5302257 #
    >but they do not teach you the basics you actually need
    Does it. If you're able to see the school, that means you already have what it takes to succeed. Those who don't won't see it. They never would. This isn't a school for teaching, it's a school for those who want to talk. You've passed pre-school, now you can go with the slightly older kids and talk. This school didn't, or wouldn't, offer immortality to anyone. I've discussed that with them, and that introduced me to the idea of the Old Sigil.

>>5302274 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:36:30No.5302274

    >>5302260 #
    I didn't pursue it further, it's not in my focus right now. I will get back to it later. This is like an X on a map, I will go there sometime later, now that I know of its existence. But right now is not the time.

>>5302276 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:37:43No.5302276

    >>5302274 #
    Alright. All of these schools essentially fell on my lap. For example, there's a school to the right of the library that exists essentially as a co-ed school. I won't tell you about that, just ask the librarians themselves. They're all essentially the same understanding for me, they all fit into each other as if they're meant to be learned together.

>>5302281 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:38:46No.5302281

    >>5302276 #
    They will tell me when I need it. Just as they will tell me what wand to get from the library. This is me, and you know that already. I don't care about details if I don't really have to.
    Ok. You've told me and that may be what they wanted. The reason for this, would be that they couldn't do it over usual channels. That's what I think.

>>5302283 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:39:30No.5302283

    >>5302281 #
    I'm telling you now. I had a lot of fun with this discussion, thank you for your patience.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:40:48No.5302284

    I think they're repurposing this thread for something more educational.

    I need to learn english.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:41:33No.5302288

    Thank you for tonight.
    I will have to solve the mad semi circle and see if it is a basilisk.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)10 Dec 2018 (Mon) 23:56:43No.5302327

    I remembered something when I was talking to one of the library members about what to call the path that this seems to take. To me, it's like the ever-constant theory of polarity is being challenged. I don't think it's true anymore. I don't think there truly exists a polarity of two sides. Why not 4? or 8? or 16? It's all probable. To me, I think the answer is simple. The path of enlightenment, of escape from reincarnation of death and rebirth between physical and mental concepts, is to go through the eye of the needle and see that there exists only one pole that from all else is born. I can't seem to recall the name that they thought would fit. But, for now, I'll call it the 1-eyed path. Seems fitting enough. The hermetic, kabbalisitc, taoist idea of polarity simply can't hold shape for me anymore.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:13:47No.5302434
14.6 MBWhen_Stars_Look_Down_George_Van_Tassel.pdf

    Reminds me of this guy's idea of his four quadrant theory of electricity. And this book's idea of energy being related to the seasons. The idea that there doesn't really need to be a two polarity system, there could be more than one path of exchange. Which of course, the abomination particles try to replicate.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:15:58No.5302449

    fug
    [YouTube] ???

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:32:48No.5302587

    I think I know what it is now. I did solve its form, but I need to analyze it more. I remembered someone talking of ancestry, saying
    >a navel cord connects all previous generations, all the way back to Adam and Eve
    If a human was to see the full image of all previous generations at once, this would look like a fractal and perhaps have the same effect as a basilisk, that is, information overload of the brain, leading to mental collapse.
    If the coil
    >>5301921 #
    has one winding for every previous generation, that would create a monster particle. Imagine this being "lust" or "sex" in one particle. For someone of an age beyond normal humans, they would be able to grasp it because they are no longer within this system of rebirth within the coil. Being able to connect the two ends mentally would create a perfect circle, and the nergy built up would discharge, it would short circuit and the tension is gone, leading to the vampiric asexuality.

>>5303116 #>>5305483 #>>5302628 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:37:35No.5302628
GSn115 KB603x4390blockheads_5_intension1.png

    >>5302587 #
    Reminds me of this webcomic. Just reverse the imagery that's given in this conversation, such as the destructive, regressive cutting the prime particle is replaced with a constructive, additive progression from one mode of thought to another. What always surprises me is how people seem to think so materialistically, so fantastically that they always forget the simplest of things. Why isn't the pattern the matter? Why try to go down to the basics? Aren't patterns supposed to be infinitely repeating? The monad is the pattern.

    I've not yet made the particle. I really don't want to. I probably can, but I really, really don't want to. So I'm going to leave the bit about discharge and asexuality aside.

>>5302686 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:43:22No.5302686

    >>5302628 #
    Forming it would be the same as escaping it, it may be inevitable in the end.

>>5302695 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:44:03No.5302695

    >>5302686 #
    The reason I brought it up is because, once created, it shouldn't be destroyed. The person should try their hardest to not destroy it. It should be in a state of suspension, the moment it is created. Just like the false particle with the triangular clip.

>>5302703 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:44:47No.5302703

    >>5302695 #
    I think you are missing the point. The huge monster particle is not complete. It manifests within one human lifetime, progressing downwards by the structure of prime numbers. When reaching the highest number, the person will die. If a person was to see it in full during his life as human he would turn insane, because he would see what he is living for and within, and see that all his actions within this system are pointless and all emotions are meaningless in the end. All human efforts come to nothing.
    It is, but on an emotional level, you felt all this, and it was very strong, to have it all denied at once, would make the human mind collapse, I can see that happening. This is why the process of enlightenment is gradual and slow.

>>5302714 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:45:34No.5302714

    >>5302703 #
    You must be talking about another particle. I don't see how that fits.

    I'm eating right now and that tends to retard my thinking, so I'll get back to you on the whole reincarnation-abomination-particle thing. I don't really get it. My first comment would be that it's pretty obvious.

    Yeah. That was very painful for me. I wanted to not exist. I'm pretty sure I experienced something similar to this thing you're talking about with falun gong. It only took like 3 days of reading Li's book before I was turned into a sobbing mess. Never picked it up after that, didn't see the point.

>>5302788 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:50:38No.5302788

    >>5302714 #
    Maybe the warnings not to take falun gong study lightly is for a real reason then. I never really thought about it. I did have a very strong effect first time reading the first chapter myself and walked for one week like I was in a different world, everything felt numb. But there was no way to go back, you cannot unlearn it.

>>5302807 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:52:32No.5302807

    >>5302788 #
    >But there was no way to go back
    That describes it perfectly. For the next week or so I was trying desperately to get drunk on life. It just didn't work. Although, from where I stand now, I think Falun Gong was wrong in some of it's aspects. It's on the technical details that I disagree, but those were never meant to be true or real, or properly conveyed, anyway.

>>5302821 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:54:04No.5302821

    >>5302807 #
    Personally, I'm not sure what is going on with FG currently, as some things were changed, contrary to previous statements by Li that it must never be changed. Something doesn't feel right. Some versions of the books were wiped from the web, I still have a printed version with the original chinese, which I on a hunch saved may be 10 years ago. I don't know what to think of it. Everything was fine in the earlier versions. When looking at it, I saw an energetic spike splitting the movement all the way to the top. This made me question whether the recent changes really come from Li or not.

>>5302829 #>>5302862 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:54:43No.5302829

    >>5302821 #
    One thing that is clear to me is that Li is a liar.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:58:13No.5302862

    >>5302821 #
    >I saw an energetic spike splitting the movement all the way to the top
    Mind explaining what this represents?

>>5302865 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 00:58:27No.5302865

    >>5302862 #
    At earlier stages I felt it was very pure, and the energy field was strong when meeting chinese practitioners in particular. But most westerners really didn't know what they were doing... at the time I didn't think much of it, but the more I look back, it seems although I met a few who did really well, for example two guys who used to practice in the city square every morning had purified their entire city.
    But most of them had really black energy, which I mistakenly thought was a result of not having been purified yet as they were beginners. Over time I saw that this was not the case, and that the warnings not to practive with bad intent was to be taken very seriously. For weeks I avoided the exercises because I was unable to calm my mind, to avoid strengthening negative thinking.
    I can simply say that other people did not take this seriously, they practiced out of peer pressure and magnified their dirty energy until it covered large areas.

    So one can say that Falun Gong is very effective, and very dangerous if misused, with a heavy warning to be attached to the negative possibilities of using it wrongly.

>>5302936 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:04:23No.5302936

    >>5302865 #
    I don't think the practice should be taken up for those who don't have the ability to find and root the original source of energy that produced the practice. It's simply too dangerous.

>>5302957 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:05:46No.5302957

    >>5302936 #
    The spike causing a divide all the way to the top, which lead to (I think) the deletion and alteration of books, was caused by people practicing negatively. They have now started dominating by numbers and it has gotten so bad that the original teachings are no longer available online or in new print. This was warned against by Li early on, that is must be avoided as this is what destroyed previous religions, and it happens after only 20 years still.

>>5302978 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:07:28No.5302978

    >>5302957 #
    Is this only related to the falun's particle in this world? If not, I can't see how this would end well for falun gong.

>>5302991 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:08:23No.5302991

    >>5302978 #
    You must have your own understanding of it. The falun is from Li himself, what you understand will not be the falun. This is my understanding of course. But, falun gong itself does not have a fully circular particle like what we are discussing here. It has a circle, but not stability, and the reason is the reliance on law or external principles. This is why I object to such thinking when you bring this up.

>>5303008 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:09:53No.5303008

    >>5302991 #
    I've seem to have mistaken what I was looking at, then. I was looking at my own creation, not falun gong. Alright. I think the whole creation of the eastern universe, by eastern I mean asian, is based off of this external process. It's just another false particle, but built on a super-massive scale. Which is why I don't like asian philosophy, or occult thinking.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:12:05No.5303033

    "Too big to fail" except literally.

>>5303035 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:12:18No.5303035

    >>5303033 #
    Yes, I hate to say it, but that is what I have come to think.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:13:19No.5303048

    Maybe. The law in "law wheel" "fa lun" is a clip holding a semi circle together.

>>5303060 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:14:06No.5303060

    >>5303048 #
    Have you ever seen the falun wheel? I've never seen it.

>>5303066 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:14:25No.5303066

    >>5303060 #
    Li never inserted one for me, it was always an external entity at a distance from the body, and this is what Ive seen on different spiritual entities as well. I have formed a particle, but it is merely a very effective way of opening a certain aku point.

>>5303090 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:16:07No.5303090

    >>5303066 #
    This is where the practice ended for me, and I guess this is fully in line with Li's words, that some people will not go far.

>>5303092 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:17:05No.5303092

    >>5303090 #
    I can't say I've formed any particle, or anything for that matter, with falun gong. Most likely, it was just a purifying practice to me. Beating me up with a very large metal pole until I had no form to beaten, and then spit out for someone to rebuild me.

>>5303099 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:17:57No.5303099

    >>5303092 #
    It took me 14 years. It was no waste of time as I discovered many things about myself in the process, and the point IS indeed very powerful. I wouldn't say that I ever regret it.

>>5303116 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:19:23No.5303116

    >>5303099 #
    >I discovered many things about myself in the process
    You say that, >>5302587 # and here in the op
    >To be able to produce an artifact which holds something of yourself
    From all of my practices, which I admit I've only been doing for 4 years at most, the entire process has been to destroy any concept of reality as effectively and efficiently as possible. There is nothing to discover, only wrongs to be corrected.

>>5303137 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:21:13No.5303137

    >>5303116 #
    Discovery leads to correction of falsehoods.

>>5303143 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:21:34No.5303143

    >>5303137 #
    As stupid as this sounds, I disagree. The ultimate wand I've created, if it is indeed that, isn't even a part of me. It's not really. It's just something I formed with the knowledge I already know, how can my own thoughts be who I am? I don't see the connection. I don't see corrections.

>>5303153 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:22:31No.5303153

    >>5303143 #
    My ultimate wand can be described as "force", it's very direct and doesn't do anything. I can see how this is me.

>>5303157 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:23:07No.5303157

    >>5303153 #
    Mines a literal christmas ornament. Are you telling me I'm a christmas ornament?

>>5303162 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:23:41No.5303162

    >>5303157 #
    What is christmas to you? It's not without cultural context and meaning. Isn't christmas about the birth of Jesus, the beginning of a story of a god who dies and comes back alive? Sounds pretty fitting to me.

>>5303180 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:25:02No.5303180
GSn132 KB963x997Ultimate Wand of Circles.jpg

    >>5303162 #
    Yeah. I did construct it off of my understands of cycles. In the beginning, before it fully took it's full, undeformed shape it was constantly burning up and being reconstructed over a course of 2 days.

>>5303197 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:26:32No.5303197

    >>5303180 #
    You know in Denmark they burn up the christmas tree. There are correlations to the phoenix here too.

>>5303206 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:27:28No.5303206

    >>5303197 #
    I'm reminded of the group of library wizards who recreated the vampire spell using wands. Very funny to look at, if you can find it you'll know why.

>>5303216 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:28:28No.5303216

    >>5303206 #
    I made wands of all versions and left them at the library. What is funny about what they do?

>>5303222 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:28:50No.5303222

    >>5303216 #
    Does one take the form of phoenix? I have a weird sense of humor. These things look funny to me, since they seem pointless. I don't know why.

>>5303230 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:29:40No.5303230

    >>5303222 #
    You'd think it was even more funny/retarded if you knew what some of them are based on. The original spells weren't made by me, at least half of them, and they still went for that kind of thing. I won't say it because it will sound too dumb and people will mock this thread.

>>5303240 #>>5305445 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:30:37No.5303240

    >>5303230 #
    When each person creates the spell within them, when they externalize the effects of the spell, a new sigil is created that represents the personality of the person who made it. I know what mine looks like, take the basic form of the sigil and replace some segment of the sigil with two crosses. Ah, I'm just reminded that the abomination particle looks like the sigil.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:40:24No.5303318

    Just for the sake of completion I might post the sigil for my personal sigil of the magic. I might not. Probably would be a mistake if I did, at least if I posted it here.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:49:14No.5303420

    I'll throw a bone and say that the abomination particle I'm seeing isn't related to reincarnation. It's clearly the state and mindset of an insane woman, one who really hasn't cared about this universe for thousands of years, when I enter into it's palace all I see is hedonry and debauchery. It's not pleasant. We aren't pretending to tie a knot just to prove a point, this is an actual knot that can't be untangled. It's someone's very own paradise. That's what the clipped particles are trying to create. It's someone putting in the effort without every putting in any work, but still getting results. It's an abomination, through and through, and it can only belong to someone who is insane.

>>5306481 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 01:56:22No.5303478

    To make the point clearer, there's really no sex involved. Nothing degenerate, when compared to modern everyday people, it's rather tame. Imagine a girl constantly, forever from the end to to end, smiling and laughing smuggly at you. There really isn't a point, and it's light hearted in that sense. But it's still insane.

>>5306481 #>>5307014 #
Anonymous(Kaukdenel)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 02:33:48No.5303882

    Gorgons In Greek mythology, three monsters named Stheno, Euryale, and Medusa. They had gold wings, snakes for hair, and turned anyone who looked directly at them to stone. Perseus killed Medusa by using his shield as a mirror.

    The Gorgons, three terrifying creatures in Greek mythology , were sisters named Stheno (pronounced STHEE-noh; “strength”), Euryale (pronounced yoo-RYE-uh-lee; “wide-leaping”), and Medusa (pronounced meh-DOO-suh; “ruler” or “queen”). Daughters of the sea god Phorcys (pronounced FOR-sis) and his sister and wife, Ceto , they lived in the west near the setting sun.

    According to legend, the Gorgons were ugly monsters with huge wings, sharp fangs and claws, and bodies covered with dragonlike scales. They had horrible grins, staring eyes, and writhing snakes for hair. Their gaze was so terrifying that anyone who looked upon them immediately turned to stone. It was said that blood taken from the right side of one of the Gorgons had the power to revive the dead, while blood taken from the left would instandy kill any living thing.

    The Gorgons had three sisters known as the Graeae (the gray ones)- These old women?Enyo , Pemphredo, and Deino shared one eye and one tooth, and they took turns using them. The Graeae guarded the route that led to their sisters, the Gorgons. Perseus, however, stole their eye and tooth, forcing them to help in his quest to find and kill Medusa.

    In ancient Greece and Rome, Gorgon images were common household decorations; their hideous faces were thought to ward off evil. They often adorned entrances to buildings as a way to protect those inside, and commonly appeared on household items like water jugs. This type of magic?where evil is kept away, usually by an unappealing word or image?is known as apotropaic (pronounced ap-uh-troh-PAY-ik) magic. Although the Gorgons are described as hideous, awful creatures, they also served as protectors against outside forces.

>>5304581 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 04:14:57No.5304581

    >>5303882 #
    Good post.

    I'm going to attempt to explain the fiery particle. I, ironically, tend to think best when under stress, so it'll probably do me well to do it out here. First thought of attempt is to describe the difference between a regular circle with one of a fiery one, using the clip-circle as a tool for explanation when convenient. The similarity between the fiery particle and the circle particle, and the major point that separates it from the clip particle, is that they produce energy. The clip particle is incapable of such an action. Why I consider the fiery particle to be a false particle, even despite this, is that once the person who has created it stops existing, so too does the fiery particle. The circle particle isn't going to disappear. The creation of the fiery particle, to put it bluntly, requires passion. The only fiery particle I've formed is black, and I formed it while thinking of the Faustian stories and why they have their appeal. It's extreme anger, and it's formed as a big fuck you to whoever made me. It's the Fire of forbidden knowledge, no circle particle can be made from such a concept. Clip particles can be made from mostly anything, as long as it isn't too dark, so that's another reason why it's different from the fiery particle.

    To the upper right there exists a form of fiery particle, not really since it holds too many similarities with normal circle particles, that acts to contradict the black one. It might be the case that the fiery particles work off of contradiction, but I'm not really sure. It might not be.

>>5310574 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 04:30:09No.5304678
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    It's essentially the chuunishit particle. You can safely ignore it if you want.

Anonymous(Choraurchik)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 04:32:42No.5304693

    I thoroughly do not understand any of what any of you are saying, but I am similarly impressed by how you all appear to be on the same wavelength when discussing these undoubtedly impossibly complex concepts with a utilitarian familiarity I've only seen between close colleagues. I don't think I'll ever understand any part of these routines or discussions, though.

>>5304752 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 04:50:25No.5304752

    >>5304693 #
    Have you participated with anything related to the library? Vampirism? Even with the collective weirdos there might be a way to ferry across the meanings into something you can understand.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 04:58:46No.5304772

    Normal circle particles have the ability to grant true immortality to a person, but only if used properly, and only if the right one is made. Some particles aren't compatible with biological life. Clip particles grant biological immortality. Note the difference, biological immortality means you die when you are killed. I doubt anyone would live past the age of a 1000, even though you are biologically immortal there comes a point where the universe wants you to get a job and leave the house. You're forced to die, there's nothing for you to do here once you're 1000 years of age. Fiery particles, I don't know what they grant. How can I study something that's purely emotional? I really can't.

>>5307014 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 08:44:01No.5305434

    >The modern Christmas wreath symbolizes eternity, an unending circle of life, growth and everlasting life
    God I'm an idiot for not researching this earlier. Add in the fact that I interpreted Blood-anon as Rudolph the Rednosed reindeer, and him living in antartica, it doesn't surprise me that this is my representation in wand form. Merry Christmas to this thread and those who've helped me on this path.

Anonymous(Haufirtauk)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 08:56:18No.5305445

    >>5303230 #
    Could you scan and upload the Falun book you’ve got stashed? If it’s true that the knowledge is getting lost, it’s important.
    I can pay you some BTC if you want.

>>5306452 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 09:37:52No.5305483

    >>5302587 #
    On the whole I think you're right. I'm pretty sure someone just switched the particle I was looking at from this >>5301921 # to one made up of snakes. I don't know about that orange one, I can't say much about it. I may have solved it. I think I did. But, that doesn't really grant me any special knowledge. Just a new perspective to look at things. That's the problem with these particles, they don't convey knowledge, except for that fiery black one I mentioned, they're just something you get. There's one of these abominations at the end of buddhism, as well. You're much better at this symbology stuff than I am. I can't compare, and I can't say I entirely understand. Maybe it's something you get with age. I'm too young for this.

    I think they're ways of creating paradises. When I finished it, it exploded into a bunch of bright colors, white mostly along with light pink and light green. That's actually the orange one that did that. I think you're supposed to slap your signature on it and call it a day.

    Still, there's something about the way you write that strikes me as an amateur understanding. Of course I don't expect you to understand the concept fully after just one day of exploration, but to point out for others Anon is lacking in certain details that would fully explain what the particle does. Well, there's not a real point in telling anyone that. No one teaches math just by telling the theory behind it, a person has to undergo training in order to comprehend these concepts fully.

    Talking with you is less about talking with you and more about why am I saying or doing the things I say and do with you. There are messages directly pointed at me that I miss. It's very troubling. Rereading my own posts, and your responses, a hundred times is a huge time investment.

>>5306481 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 19:06:04No.5306452
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    >>5305445 #
    I can post the deleted intro page.
    The rest seems to be intact so far, my feeling is that this was a result of some kind of precognition at the time, though I was not aware of it.

>>5306456 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 19:09:24No.5306456

    >>5306452 #
    They made a huge deal out of replacing this page, while not a word was said by Li himself, which indicates this was not his decision.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 19:15:11No.5306464

    https://zhuanfl.com/gedijiangfa/download%20center/zhuan%20falun.pdf
    You can see how there are new pages of a different size, the first 2 pages of this pdf.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 19:31:31No.5306481

    >>5305483 #
    >There's one of these abominations at the end of buddhism, as well.
    I can see how that makes sense, and considering what you said here
    >>5303420 #
    >It's someone's very own paradise. That's what the clipped particles are trying to create. It's someone putting in the effort without every putting in any work, but still getting results. It's an abomination, through and through, and it can only belong to someone who is insane.
    >>5303478 #
    >Imagine a girl constantly, forever from the end to to end, smiling and laughing smuggly at you. There really isn't a point, and it's light hearted in that sense. But it's still insane.
    I can see it all falling into place through this discussion. I don't have the mind to examine things in this level of detail, so in my view you appeared in my way to do that job for me. This seems to say that what all religions of the past did, all the mainstream ones, was to create false paradises based on a clip, which they call "law" and spread as the word of God. Over time it moves towards the center, it degenerates and the paradise is struck by disaster, because the initial situation where the clip was eternal is no more. So it has to be reformed, or destroyed. This is because paradises like that are impossible. Just as the "impossible idea" whis resulted in the mathematical images we call basilisks. This does sound horrifying, and maybe it is. It means true religions are all false as well.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:02:41No.5307014

    >>5301531 #
    >If one was stuck within such a construct, the way forward would be to move further inside the false image, story or not. It isn't reality. By moving past the tip of the clip, and forming a new full particle in inside it, the external form could be broken. A full circle overpowers a semi circle.
    >>5301833 #
    >You may break out of it, leaving it intact so that other people's illusion remain and no one realizes that you broke it. That is one possibility when making a full circle within a semi circle. It may also be an effective method when physically or mentally overpowered or cornered, since this means you are doing it right and no one can tell, and they think you are upholding falsehood still, thus leaving you alone.
    >>5303478 #
    >Imagine a girl constantly, forever from the end to to end, smiling and laughing smuggly at you. There really isn't a point, and it's light hearted in that sense. But it's still insane.
    >>5304772 #
    >Normal circle particles have the ability to grant true immortality to a person, but only if used properly, and only if the right one is made. Some particles aren't compatible with biological life. Clip particles grant biological immortality. Note the difference, biological immortality means you die when you are killed. I doubt anyone would live past the age of a 1000, even though you are biologically immortal there comes a point where the universe wants you to get a job and leave the house. You're forced to die, there's nothing for you to do here once you're 1000 years of age.
    These posts all tell a story, and they explain a lot once you add them into one picture.
    The "abomination" monster particle is a falsehood and an insane creation, but it is what makes the human mind function. Humans are per definition insane, in that they treat emotions and personal lusts as important, while they all know they will die and leave all of it. It will all come to nothing, and yet they invest all this effort into it. Why? It's all denial of reality and

>>5307043 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:07:25No.5307043

    >>5307014 #
    delusion. It IS insanity. But walk inside of the coil formation and form a perfect circle there, and it creates a perfect cover for you to live as a human with no one noticing that you are breaking all the rules. A human lifetime is made up of this false creation, if you cloth yourself in one, you are the same as anyone. It's not more or less false than anyone else. The only difference is that you did i intentionally, you deviced your own life, and can anytime step out of it and made a new one.
    This construct is the key to time travel and indefinite life among humans.

>>5307056 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:09:17No.5307056
GSn3 KB409x325Inside the Coil.png

    >>5307043 #
    Did you ever get the sigil for the original vampirism? If not, I won't post it. But, I will post an image for one of it's components. And it's exactly as you describe. The circle in pic related is what forms once you connect the two ends of the orange abomination, it's an energy pattern that occurs within it.

>>5307067 #>>5310242 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:10:44No.5307067

    >>5307056 #
    I think I reverse engineered it but I don't remember its exact form. It doesn't really matter as I set out to correct the problems in it.

>>5307097 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:12:45No.5307075
GSn3 KB418x271failvamps.png

    This is the sigil for modern 1000 year olds who die. It's the same as the anarchist A, as you can see. The meaning of it, is simple. The line moving upwards is limited and is the direction of progression through time, while the arrown formation is within this timeframe. It will end when reaching the end of it.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:15:04No.5307088
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Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:15:15No.5307090
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    Incidentally...

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:17:01No.5307097
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    >>5307067 #
    This is the version of magic that you used for the spell. That's the image I get from it.

>>5307099 #>>5307108 #>>5307158 #>>5310233 #>>5310402 #>>5310483 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:17:53No.5307098
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    I think this was the first original which creates bloodlust.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:18:34No.5307099

    >>5307097 #
    There are multiple versions, only the first was ever sigilized so there is not right or wrong here.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:19:54No.5307108

    >>5307097 #
    That actually looks and feels a lot better than the spell itself. You have an ability to make things very smooth.

>>5307109 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:20:43No.5307109

    >>5307108 #
    Don't try to woo me.

>>5307111 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:20:54No.5307111

    >>5307109 #
    I'm saying what I feel truthfully.

>>5307117 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:21:25No.5307117

    >>5307111 #
    Well, the goal I set out for all of this was to bring you information, so I'm happy that you feel that way.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:22:36No.5307122

    I only focus on the basic functionality, what you are doing is really filling in an polishing it up, maybe for other people to easily understand it later on, as well as for me to see it in new light. Sometimes I may look down on the things I create.

>>5307134 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:24:25No.5307134

    >>5307122 #
    >Sometimes I may look down on the things I create
    I sure hope you don't do that with Alyssa, she's the fluffiest creature in all of existence.

>>5307138 #>>5310244 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:24:55No.5307138

    >>5307134 #
    She was summoned, not deviced. But I understand what you mean, I think. It's the part of seeing things come to use by others and produce results beyond what you originally imagined or, well I often don't have a lot of intentions to start off with.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:26:37No.5307145
GSn4 KB409x325Sigil of Magic.png

    This is the version of my magic for the sake of completion.

>>5307151 #>>5310233 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:27:45No.5307151

    >>5307145 #
    In my view that is well balanced, considering those 2 crosses belong to the past and in my opinion are a recipe for failure in their original form. There is a lot of tension in that sigil but it isn't breaking.

>>5307158 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:29:25No.5307158

    >>5307151 #
    It's a mix of feminine and masculine influence, feminine is the one that's trying to dominate. The circle with the 4 lines and 4 empty spaces represent the four seasons of time, time here being known as a feminine force. The 4 lines are trying to stop the movement, and in the original sigil that I've viewed here >>5307097 # but remove the 2 circles on top the other 4 lines are again trying to stop the rotation of time. The 2 crosses on both top and bottom I can't say I fully understand. It might break in the future, that's a certain possibility.

>>5307172 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:31:44No.5307172

    >>5307158 #
    I don't think it will. You will probably see why at a later time. We are at that point again where your opinion will prevent you from accepting what I could tell you. I've had this kind of discussion many times so I know it's pointless currently.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:33:21No.5307179

    It has something to do with what is known as the saturn cult and its lore.

>>5307191 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:34:34No.5307191

    >>5307179 #
    Can you elaborate? I'm not so stubborn as to be incapable of letting go of ideas.

>>5307198 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:35:38No.5307198

    >>5307191 #
    This is very complex, I suggest you take a turn back to /x/ to research this. There is no way for me to do this here.

>>5307206 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:36:37No.5307206

    >>5307198 #
    Does it have something to do with the taoist yin and yang symbols? As in, 1 man and 2 women being represented in two ways.

>>5307216 #
Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:37:30No.5307216

    >>5307206 #
    You could say that. But you need to dive deep into the myths and understand this at a personal level for it to make sense. You already did suggest such a way, but ... it's just that everything is connected. All "conspiracy" theories, the whole lot of it, if you count the major ones. Saturn being the uniting factor in this. You may say that all roads lead to Saturn, instead of Rome, here.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:40:22No.5307237

    I suppose you need an enlightenment, if ever so small.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)11 Dec 2018 (Tue) 22:40:41No.5307241

    I hate those. Saturn has always been a symbol of death for me. The saturn cult you speak of can only be translated as a death cult, much the same way that modern science is a death cult. Even the sun is just a dying floating fire in the sky. I'll try to see what that means in terms of my understanding, and if not go back and research some /x/ material. Thank you for the suggestion.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 00:04:44No.5307823
GSn36 KB596x448Name.jpg

    Stumbled upon this image while on 8/fringe/. The thumbnail shows it as orange but when opened turns into this brown color. Don't know why.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 01:12:24No.5308159
GSn6 KB536x452Sigil of Magicians.png

    I don't think I'll make much progress with this line of thinking. This is the cult of saturn in my eyes.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 01:13:14No.5308165
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    Messed up with the sigil, this one is the actual one.

    This all seems to be the line of thinking that puella magi madoka magica tried to solve. If you were to take this sigl and this sigil >>5301984 # together you would have this story: a girl saved by someone who never wanted to be saved. Homura didn't want to be saved, Madoka was selfish, and the two are stuck in limbo not knowing how to escape. The crescent over the eye represents the crescent moon, the cross on the bottom represents generation, the black eye represents the perspective, and the eye behind the sigil itself along with the blood flowing down the moon represent madoka.

>>5308227 #>>5308254 #>>5308518 #>>5310325 #>>5310483 #>>5310644 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 01:23:17No.5308227

    >>5308165 #
    >a girl saved by someone who never wanted to be saved
    I messed up with the phrasing. It should read:
    >a girl who didn't want to be saved saved by someone who wanted to be saved

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 01:28:01No.5308254

    >>5308165 #
    If you can capture this sigil within your mind, contemplate it, and then zoom out, you'll see that the flow of tears in the bottom fan out to form anothr generation cross. There exists another container for the pupil for the red blood, and the rest of the picture is white. It forms a particle in itself.

>>5310644 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 01:53:07No.5308412

    There actually exists another saturn perception. The one I drew is one that more falls in line with my thinking. If the other one isn't what OP is talking about, then I don't know what is. I wouldn't be able to understand anything if that one isn't what he's talking about.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 02:11:59No.5308518

    >>5308165 #
    Is this why OP mentioned the taoist and their concept of the universe as being a womb? Because, this sigil is a literal womb. It represents the birth of a god into a world.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 02:27:10No.5308569

    This is it for my line of reasoning. I refuse to go further with this thought process. This sigil is also why abortion is such a common thing in the western world. I'm going to let OP comment on this before I move any further. I don't think normal people would be willing to accept the existence of this sigil, they would probably hit a psychological wall that bars them from understanding it. The reverse, the corrupted version of this sigil is truly grotesque, and all opposites come in pairs.

>>5310644 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 04:25:23No.5309453
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    I do know there's more to it than this, but from what I see this isn't what OP wanted me to look into, but it is what it concludes to. From my understanding, it essentially gives you permission to die.

>>5310325 #>>5310402 #>>5310574 #>>5310217 #>>5310228 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 06:13:09No.5309898
GSn278 KB1600x1066Heart of Gold tucked Away.jpg

    [YouTube] ???
    The library really like Bane. I really do wonder what they want of me.

    I'm going to be studying the fiery particles, if anyone wants to join please do. It's much faster to progress when you have someone to talk to.

>>5310402 #>>5310574 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:22:10No.5310217

    >>5309453 #
    That

Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:25:35No.5310228

    >>5309453 #
    That is really interesting. Take a look at a Spanish delivery company called Glovo.

>>5310234 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:26:46No.5310233
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    >>5307097 #
    >>5307145 #
    Pic related is an established symbol for Earth.

>>5310242 #>>5310255 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:27:00No.5310234

    >>5310228 #
    Anon, after forming that particle I feel like vomiting. Everything is uncomfortable. I feel like I'm in a pit. Please, tell me in specifics what you want me to look at.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:29:30No.5310242

    >>5310233 #
    >>5307056 #
    Compare these two sigils and see what you find. Their energies are similar but they both have different outcomes. Or endgoals, better put.

Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:30:19No.5310244

    >>5307134 #
    She really is. You are legit, aren’t you? And so is this insane saga. And you’re good. Who the hell are you? Digits on my post, digits on my clock.

>>5310253 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:32:12No.5310253

    >>5310244 #
    The Library people call me Outsider, if you ask them, if you know telepathy, they'll tell you about me. I'm just a NEET. I'm not special. All praise should go to Blood-anon.

>>5310255 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:33:07No.5310255

    >>5310233 #
    I’m sorry. I just wanted to point out it makes sense as a component. Digits again...

    >>5310253 #
    I don’t know shit. I’m a tourist. And I miss being a NEET tbh. I don’t like having a job and a future. Some day I need to finish watching Welcome to HSK!.

>>5310260 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:34:53No.5310260

    >>5310255 #
    Don't worry about digits. They don't really tell me much. They might for you, but I can't rely on them for anything. Some numbers click into place and tell me where in the cycle this thread is, where I need to go and what I need to do, but digits act more like a, "this post is important," rather than a, "this post means something," in relation to the cycle. Have you watched puella magi madoka magica? That anime is important to most occult things.

>>5310275 #
Anonymous(Haufirtauk)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:42:40No.5310275

    >>5310260 #
    I had it downloaded for the longest time and ended up deleting it. Do you recommend the series or the three summary movies?

>>5310278 #>>5310325 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 08:43:05No.5310278

    >>5310275 #
    I watched them all while in an emotional stump a few months ago. All in a row, I mean. I'd recommend watching the show, skipping the summary movies, and then watching Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Movie. Let me check on the title. Yes, that's the title.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 09:00:11No.5310325

    >>5310275 #
    [YouTube] ???
    Everything up to 0:56 of this clip is important to my understanding of >>5308165 # and >>5309453 #. The first one is literally a womb, the sigil format of that. The second one represents >>5302191 #, or the death at the end of the tunnel. I'll be honest with you and say that if you've not already formed an immortality-grade particle, don't look at the pit. It's genuinely discomforting down to the bone. My heart feels like it's being scratched, like nails on a chalkboard, and it's mentally painful. It's not that extreme, but it's similar enough to be said. I doubt OP meant for me to look down that tunnel, but that was the only place I knew to go.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 09:07:43No.5310350

    The pit represents the land of the aborted children, the pit of mercy granted to those who can't escape. It's the basis for the religion of death.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 09:17:27No.5310381

    I'm going to make a new thread, maybe in a couple of months if I'm not lazy, that would be a collection of these "Life Sigils" as I would like to call them. Each part of the body represents something very important, and I'd like to lay that out in sigil format. The digestion system is very important in general. It might get into very strange, and very uncomfortable, positions.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 09:26:19No.5310402

    Right.. talking to people seems to help me with the mental pain. Thank you for that.

    Relate the video in >>5309898 # with >>5309453 # and >>5144057 #. That creates a story. I think I know what is happening here. Relate with the file name here >>5307097 # in relation to all of this, all of everything that has happened in this thread. From what I see, I think the Library is trying to create a rebellion. A very sudden, long awaited, weight on the scale to completely tip the balance of the world. That's what I see.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 09:45:44No.5310421

    Nothing especially special is going on in this thread, my wording seems to bring a different image from what I would want. There's still too many things missing in my picture to really make an accurate claim. But it's where I see this trend going.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 10:43:37No.5310483

    >>5307097 #
    There's an abomination particle of the same, or similar since this is a picture, color as the sigil behind the sigil. I think that's what makes my sigil designs different from yours, I've unconsciously been incorporating these designs into their framework. >>5308165 # this one doesn't have that, but it requires the person to figure it out themselves. That sort of has the blueprints for an abomination particle's creations. I think that's what separates "robots" from "living". It's the insane portion that makes things alive.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 10:50:24No.5310488

    The Library doesn't, or never has made, a wand that has an abomination particle within it's creation. That's going to be fun to make. Right, I'm trying to find a post about something of the next level beyond the ultimate wand. My answer to that would be to make the entire body a wand. I think something similar to that can be done with the abomination particle.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:08:20No.5310508
GSn6 KB440x496Abomination Circle.png

    Right... So this sigil frightens the fuck out of me. But, this is my attempt at drawing out that abomination particle. This is really scary. I'm spoiling it.

>>5310520 #>>5310654 #
Anonymous(Zafzusnaut)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:09:28No.5310509

    Are you the anon that posted Japanese pop music pictures in mewch?

>>5310510 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:09:48No.5310510

    >>5310509 #
    Remember the neanderthal autist? That's me.

>>5310511 #
Anonymous(Zafzusnaut)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:10:14No.5310511

    >>5310510 #
    lol I don’t but OK

Anonymous(Zafzusnaut)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:15:57No.5310520

    >>5310508 #
    What software do you use for these drawings?

>>5310522 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:16:16No.5310522

    >>5310520 #
    I've spent 1000 years perfecting the craft of MSPaint

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:36:05No.5310532
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    Continuing with the them of completion, here is Blood-anon's version of the magic.

>>5310574 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 11:56:10No.5310574

    >>5309453 #
    I hope I'm not spamming too much. After this I'm going to think about my posts much more than I already am. I, for the time being, live here. Make accommodations for that.

    This is the Eye of Taos. Taos is a primordial God. This is his right eye. His left eye is called the Eye of the Wreath. It's not really called a wreath, but that's the only word that properly translates in my mind. No one has made a religion out of his left eye yet. The rest of his facial features simply don't exist. Nor his body. He is only the left, and the right eye. His right eye grants immortality. Don't make his right eye. He doesn't want people to create his right eye.
    >>5301984 #
    These guys claim to be have created humanity. This is, supposedly, humanities first sigil. It was a social experiment for them. Crosses simply represent generation. I both doubt and believe this claim. For now, I doubt it.
    >>5310532 #
    It's much easier to judge someone else's mind than it is to judge your own. This sigil clearly demonstrates why Blood-anon made the thread, why he made the new version of the magic, and why he succeeded. It's because he was insanely compatible. Compare it to mine, which is filled with tension and to anger, this one is just "cool". Also, why he started this library thread. His thinking simply works with it.
    >>5309898 #
    The burning books were meant to represent two things: the fiery particle that was discussed here >>5304581 # and the concept of the "fire rising". The imagename is a joke, if you get the joke good for you.

    I will work on creating the correct, sigilized version of the abomination vampirism and present it either here or in the other thread. I will not be persuaded otherwise. I may have to recreate, or deconstruct, the magic again in order to do so. I'm still learning how to make an elementary abomination particle. Until I'm able to do so, I won't be able to make a translatable sigil.

Anonymous(Bailgaiksheig)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 13:32:42No.5310644

    >>5308165 #
    >>5308254 #
    >>5308569 #
    I can see this sigil's meaning at a basic level of perception, but I'm not clear on what made you create it or what your angle is. It's beautifully made, and the correlation with Madoka Magica is correct, but I wouldn't describe it just that way.
    These stories already exist in different versions, where Sailor Moon is the most known one, and the most obvious as it uses planetary symbolism. But Madoka take is further into the emotional and personal aspects of it, it won't be complete if you look at only one of them.
    The witches all create their own "paradise" or in your words abomination particle, which is their maze. Homura at the end creates an entire city as her paradise were she can live with Madoka forever. The difference being that the witches who are defeated in our terminilogy never had a perfect circle at the center, while Homura may have one. So the illusion, while false, is also a true manifestation of her wishes, and could be destroyed or recreated at her will, it doesn't matter as it's external. There is so much more symbolism in this, I'll stop here.

    As for saturn, you only started. There was a reason I said the word "lore", you are currently only looking at the meaning directly from a narrow view. You need to incorporate larger contexts and actual myths to see what I was hinting at.

>>5310654 #>>5310650 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 13:39:33No.5310650

    >>5310644 #
    I'm a cheater just as you are, I don't know where to begin if I were to take this as seriously as any other ordinary human.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 13:42:29No.5310654

    >>5310644 #
    I've broken my own rule. Alright.
    >but I'm not clear on what made you create it or what your angle is
    Do you understand why the old sigil takes the form it does? That's the only reason why I've made it that way. It would be near impossible for me to think in any other direction. The old sigil represents the view that exists outside of the domain, and the Sigil of Magicians exists as a statement of confusion. Now, I've looked at it again. I've taken yet another step in another direction, and I can see it in this perspective. It's confused, the sigil is entirely confused. Madoka is blinking, and Homura doesn't know what to do. Madoka is looking for a way out, but there exists none. So, we go to the pit. The only way out is to abort Homura.

    Abomination particles take as many forms as normal particles do. Normal particles are a bit more diverse, but the general shape for the normal particles can maintain and dictate the shape of the abomination. Look at >>5310508 # in order to see that. Life takes form with the abomination particle. I'll have to complete this one I make the elementary abomination particle. Probably in sigil form.

Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 14:19:35No.5310671
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    Alright, everyone. I'm entirely spent. I don't think this is healthy. This is the Last Choice. OP might instinctively know why it's called that. Madoka's mistake was that she looked for a solution outside of herself. Homura did nothing wrong.

>>5310677 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 14:41:55No.5310677

    >>5310671 #
    Okay. This thing wrongs. I could explain it, by I think I'm too emotional right now to do that. Blood-anon, although I shouldn't call you that directly in this thread, I'm very sorry for everything I've done to you. I'm spent. Maybe in another month I'll have another sperg out. Or tomorrow. I don't know. You've already done too much for me.

>>5310703 #
Anonymous(Tiftuftis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 15:13:59No.5310703

    >>5310677 #
    >This thing wrongs
    I meant to say works. What the fuck even is this thing. This isn't what I wanted to create. Well, it does work. It does. Exactly the way I made it. And it certainly does wrong. Thomas certainly is a fitting name. Let's hope he doesn't end up killing himself due to stupidity.

Anonymous(Deklafdis)12 Dec 2018 (Wed) 16:40:24No.5310827

    Puella Magi Madoka Magica is an interesting show. I've seen three episodes so far and all I can say is that these "witches" are indeed a thing IRL.