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CharmlessMan  12:58:09
24% is all agriculture
if we stopped eating meat agriculture wouldn't cease to exist would it
ProfFarnsworth  12:58:25
No, but it would lower the impact.
This isn't a fucking all-or-nothing proposition.
CharmlessMan  12:59:11
the main thing we need to do is stop burning fossil fuels
and breeding
ProfFarnsworth  12:59:17
Well.
We have to do something about what we've already done.
innit  12:59:32
We need to become vegan.
ProfFarnsworth  12:59:34
We fucking have to.
CharmlessMan  12:59:38
the more humans there are the less room there is for any other wildlife to co-exist
ProfFarnsworth  12:59:42
Well.
Not if we're in cities.
CharmlessMan  12:59:54
but we still need food
innit  13:00:04
Humans don't have the capacity to solve this problem.
CharmlessMan  13:00:05
and resources
ProfFarnsworth  13:00:05
We can minimize our impact on the environment that way by building up, not out.
euphony  13:00:10
Lania is on akick isn't he?
innit  13:00:11
We're going extinct.
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Ignoring euphony
CharmlessMan  13:00:18
but concrete causes emissions too
ProfFarnsworth  13:00:27
CharmlessMan: agriculture can be done by building up, not out.
Use hemp-based plastics. :D
brad70  13:00:36
CharmlessMan, just kill everything that farts
innit  13:00:58
Our species isn't smart enough to handle this problem.
Sorry.
CharmlessMan  13:01:19
so you should be
if only everyone was as super intelligent as llania
ProfFarnsworth  13:02:20
innit: merely believe what you will, but get out of the way if you believe so.
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innit  13:02:45
ProfFarnsworth, there are two different sets of beliefs here.
CharmlessMan  13:02:54
you gonna tell us what that is euphony?
innit  13:03:09
As a scientist, obviously I recognize the species-ending threat of climate change.
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innit  13:03:23
As a scientist, I can also observe how humans live and react to things.
What do you see in the species that tells you we have the capacity on the global scale?
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CharmlessMan  13:03:48
what area of science do you specialise in lania?
innit  13:04:04
An entire cult of untruth is ascendant in multiple nation states across the planet.
CharmlessMan  13:04:20
well luckily we have you here to set the record straight
ProfFarnsworth  13:04:22
Fucking get over that and fight against it.
CharmlessMan  13:04:41
we're blessed that lania is here to share the truth with us
innit  13:04:52
Russia is the primary producer of propaganda and they benefit from climate change in the short term.
The Arctic shipping lanes will generate for them trillions of dollars.
ProfFarnsworth  13:05:26
Doesn't Mabus want a light-touch?
He's not being disrespectful.
innit  13:05:35
Nations will compete against one another for short-term advantage, dooming us all.
ProfFarnsworth  13:05:37
So.
CharmlessMan  13:05:38
won't that help them replace their 40 year old ladaS?
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* ProfFarnsworth shrugs.
THERetroGamerNY  13:05:46
<euphony> Lania is on akick isn't he? --- Yes, why?
Oh, I see.
ProfFarnsworth  13:05:55
euphony: it's not that he's wrong; it's just that he's a prick.
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