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Pokemon Gold Alt main Typhlosion route (maniped) (unfinished, only up to lance)

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  1. Pokemon Gold Alt main Typhlosion route* (maniped)
  2.  
  3. This assumes at least FDED Cynda manip and LID Manip
  4. Cynda Manip video+info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqjajKM2ZE&ab_channel=Elrevolver385
  5.  
  6. for R29 Manip check the gold manipless route: https://pokemon-speedrunning.github.io/speedrun-routes/#/gen-2/gold-silver/main-glitchless/
  7. (make sure to leave the lab on the left to make R29 manip work!!!)
  8.  
  9. Sentret manip that i made for alt main meganium: https://youtu.be/Azo8MbVUR0M
  10. Be aware that this was made with chikorita in mind, so it might only work for cynda if you waste 4 steps.
  11.  
  12. really rough sketch of what to do optimized for this specific Cynda (proceed with caution)
  13. * (incomplete notes until lance!!!)
  14.  
  15.  
  16. Hidden Potion
  17. get the Berry
  18.  
  19. Exp route I liked using:
  20. defeat don + 2/3 L6shrews (if Quilava) or Substitute shrews with L6hop/sprout + Alan
  21. Don + 2 shrews =224 exp (192-224 depending on exact encounters)
  22. this gives L15 for second well rat,L16 for last well zubat and L23 for Flareon saving 1-3 turns
  23. since rat is 71% and Zubat is 46% you are expected to get at least 1 of those (15.19% to miss both)
  24. adding 1 more shrew (if 204 exp from wilds) gives 2 additional ranges (again 15.19% to miss both)
  25.  
  26. Currently I'd go for the following:
  27. Dodge Don (potential Manip?) and fight the first Trainer in Sprout Tower (Nico) and fight the Trainer below Sudowoodo (alan) later.
  28. Ideally defeat 1 or 2 Sandshrews in union cave for a lot of Benefits.
  29.  
  30. Manip Cyndaquil.
  31. Don't take off the berry!!!
  32. Do R29 Manip (if no manip can get exp, as Long as you Keep the berry for Rival 1)
  33.  
  34. Rival1: Totodile: Leer, 4-5 tackle 9.87% 4shot
  35. Mikey: Pidgey: 2-3 Tackle 96.78% 2shot
  36. Ratatta: Leer, 2-3 Tackle 3.75% 2shot
  37.  
  38. skip Bitterberry
  39.  
  40. (Don): Caterpie: Leer tackle skip leer @L8
  41. Nico: Bellsprout: Leer, 2 tackle skip leer @L8
  42.  
  43. buy 9/10 Potions before entering the gym (can get away with buying 6)
  44.  
  45. Abe: Spearow: Leer, 3-4 tackle 32.98% 3shot
  46. Rod: Pidgey: Leer, 3 Tackle
  47. Pidgey: Leer, 3 Tackle
  48.  
  49. Falkner: Pidgey: Leer, 2 Tackle| swap to sentret and heal, then tackle
  50. Pidgeotto: Leer, 4 Tackle
  51.  
  52. Pidgeotto does 5-7 dmg, cynda outspeeds @L11
  53. Falkner can get weird if you crit Pidgey on turn 2 or if you miss on the last turn on Pidgey.
  54.  
  55. Center and get the Egg
  56. Get the Przcureberry
  57.  
  58. Albert: Rattata: 2 Ember
  59. Zubat: 2 Ember
  60.  
  61. Get the Super potion?
  62.  
  63. Ideally fight some wild Sandshrews (1-2)
  64.  
  65. Russel: Geodude: Ember spam
  66. Bill: Koffing: Ember spam
  67.  
  68. Get Swift TM, teach it over Tackle (heal if you lost more than 20HP)
  69.  
  70. Ray: Vulpix: Swift spam
  71.  
  72. Shop: Buy: 2 Super Potion
  73. 5 Repel
  74.  
  75. Grunt1: Swift spam 283/174exp to be L15, gives 71.79% 1shot
  76. Grunt2/3: Swift spam
  77. Grunt4: Ember spam
  78. Bugsy gym: Ember spam (fight Josh)
  79.  
  80. heal to almost full
  81. Rival2: Gastly: 2 Ember
  82. Croc: Leer, 3 Swift
  83. Zubat: 2 Swift
  84. WG does 15-18, Bite does 4-5(6-8)
  85.  
  86. Shop: Sell: MS
  87. FC
  88. Buy: 1 SPD
  89. 3 SPC
  90. 4 ATK
  91. 1 Guard spec
  92. 1 X ACC
  93. 2 Escape ropes
  94.  
  95. Carrie: ember spam
  96. Whitney: Swift
  97. X SPD, 3 X SPC DS does between 6 and 20 dmg where 1 slap does 3-4 dmg (expect up to 15)
  98. Ember spam Stomp does 20-24
  99.  
  100. Squirt, Kenya
  101.  
  102. Donald: Swift
  103. Teru: Ember/ Swift the ball
  104. Coin Case
  105. Abra+Masterball
  106.  
  107. Alan: Ember
  108. Greg: Swift
  109.  
  110. Kimonos: Swift/Leer on Umbreon
  111. Flareo->Umbreon->Espeon (rest is preference)
  112. WG does 20-24
  113.  
  114. Ping: Ember
  115. Jeffrey: Ember
  116. Can Risk being on low HP from here on bad pace if you have the PrzCureberry still, otherwise still reasonable yolo
  117. Martha: Rollout
  118. Morty: X ACC, Rollout
  119.  
  120. Shop: buy: 7 Super Potion
  121. 2/3 Hyper Potion
  122. 7 Super Repel
  123. (can also buy 6 Super pots and 3 hypers if less than 12k and if you want 3 hyper potions, which can be uesefull)
  124.  
  125. Tower1: Strength+Swift/Strength 2st is a good range if Growl, otherwise st+sw is 100%
  126. tower2: Strength 100%
  127. tower3: Swift 100% 2shot
  128. Rare candy
  129.  
  130. If possible leave the gym with 1 st left (otherwise drowzee is 70%ish range)
  131. Hitmonlee: 2Strength 100% 2shot
  132. Hitmonchan: 2Strength+sw 2st+sw is a good range
  133. heal to full (80+ is safe)
  134. Nob: 2Ember, 2FW Machoke is a 90.27% range
  135. heal to 45+ to be safe (26+ works)
  136. Lung: Strength St+FW is 98.6%
  137. (heal)
  138. Chuck: Guard spec, 3 X ATK surf does 61-72
  139. Strength St+Sw is 99.47%
  140.  
  141. Fly,secret pot
  142. Violet Candy
  143.  
  144. Grunt1: Strength,FW
  145. Grunt2: FW everything 1shots 100% except ember on grimer
  146. Scientist1: Ember
  147.  
  148. PP Section start Swi(20 St(15 Emb(25 FW(25
  149.  
  150. Grunt3:* 2emb 20 15 23 25
  151. Ross:* 2FW 20 15 23 23
  152. Grunt4:* 2emb 20 15 21 23
  153. Mitch:* FW(sw 19 15 21 22
  154. Grunt5:* St 19 14 21 22
  155. Grunt6:* 3Emb 19 14 18 22
  156. exec1:* sw,2FW(1emb 18 14 17 20
  157. exec2:* fw(emb,fw,emb 17 14 15 18
  158. Electrodes:* St+Emb 17 11 12 18
  159.  
  160. Pryce:* St,2sw,FW 15 10 12 17
  161. Jasmine:* emb,FW,emb 15 10 10 16
  162.  
  163. Shop: Buy: TM41
  164. Tm48
  165. 21 SPC
  166. 11 ATK
  167. 2 ACC
  168. 2 Escape ropes
  169. 3 Full heals (or more)
  170.  
  171. Grunt1:* 2FW 15 10 10 14
  172. Grunt2:* 2Emb 15 10 8 14
  173. Grunt3:* 4St 15 6 8 14
  174. Grunt4:* 2FW,2emb 15 6 6 12
  175. Marc:* 3emb 15 5 1 11
  176.  
  177. Swi St FP FW
  178. teach FP 15 5 15 11
  179. Rich:* FP(swi 14 5 14 11
  180. Imposter:* 5FW,FP(FW 14 5 13 5
  181.  
  182. Swi St FP TP
  183. teach TP 14 5 13 15
  184.  
  185. Rival3:* 2TP(swi,3FP 14 5 10 13
  186. Grunt1:* Swi 13 5 10 13
  187. Grunt2:* FP,2TP 13 5 9 11
  188. Grunt3:* TP,FP(swi 12 5 8 10
  189. Eddie:* swi,TP 11 5 8 9
  190. Duncan:* 3 St 11 2 8 9
  191. Grunt4:* 2 FP 11 2 6 9
  192. Grunt5:* swi,st 10 1 6 9
  193. Grunt6:* 2 TP 11 1 6 7
  194. Grunt7:* 2 TP 10 1 6 5
  195.  
  196. Ether St
  197. Grunt:* swi,TP 9 11 6 4
  198. exec1:* TP 9 11 6 3
  199. exec2:* 3FP 9 11 3 3
  200. exec3:* swi,FP,St 8 10 2 3
  201.  
  202. Vance:* 2swi 6 10 2 3
  203.  
  204. Paul:* 3 St 6 7 2 3
  205. Fran:* TP 6 7 2 2
  206. Cody:* 2 TP 6 7 2 0
  207. Lola:* St,St(sw 5 5 2 0
  208. Clair:* 4St(sw 4 1 2 0
  209. Surf does 34-40 by dragonair/63-75 by Kingdra
  210. (Sw+St with Pinkbow is g 100%)
  211.  
  212. Blake:* FP,St(sw,FP 3 0 0 0
  213. Richard:* 2 sw 1 0 0 0
  214. Take the heal house
  215.  
  216. PP end
  217.  
  218. [Joyce: Swft,TP]
  219. Gaven: FP,TP,St
  220. Jake: FP,TP
  221. Beth: Sw
  222.  
  223. Rival 4: XSPC
  224. TP, TP, FP, FP, Sw, FP
  225.  
  226. Will: TP, TP(St, TP, FP, FP
  227. Koga: FP
  228. XSPC,XATK
  229. FP, EQ, TP, EQ
  230. Bruno: XATK
  231. EQ, EQ, 2St, St, EQ(St
  232. Karen: FP, FP/X SPC, FP, EQ (FP if X SPC)
  233. FP, EQ, FP
  234.  
  235. Lance: XSPC
  236. TP, TP
  237. 5/4 XSPC
  238. TP spam
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