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loki2009 - 11/07/2017
So what exactly happened?

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
who is "comrade"

LightningLenin added Temporarily Unavailable to the group.11/07/2017

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
that's the most sockpuppet sounding ass name i ever seen

enji - 11/07/2017
comrade = mccarthy
dw
she's the most legit in here :smirk:

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
:rolling_eyes:

comrade - 11/07/2017
lmao
youre just jealous your name isnt comrade#2000

loki2009 - 11/07/2017
can we just get on with the issue at hand please?

happylittelclowds - 11/07/2017
lets yeah pls
just all chill

enji - 11/07/2017
alright: so yeah myself, DetroitRed, DC (mods of Only The Ultraest) - along with server regulars - witnessed mmmm post a meme with
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(cw: racism, sexual assault)
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 Guy Fieri eating pizza, some racist (i.e. think 'gangster') renditions of Spongebob and Patrick from the show Spongebob Squarepants, and, from the source material mmmm mentioned, what appears to be Squidward sexually assaulting Mr. Krabs. If you need to see this image for yourself, request 'guy fieri hell' on Google Images. You will notice it is artwork on the DeviantArt page of a one "NegroSlayer420".
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(cw: racism, sexual assault)(edited)

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
but no one thought to get screens?
:Thinkception:

comrade - 11/07/2017
as mods our first priority was deleting the racist image?
i don't think that's unreasonable

enji - 11/07/2017
I asked Detroit if he has screens. He hasn't responded yet.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
how do we know the squidward/mr. krabs bit isn't consensual?

enji - 11/07/2017
I mean I don't know why that's your main question (if I were in your position, I'd ask "how do I know you aren't framing mmmm?"), but if you want to litigate what obviously appears to be a nefarious grin, be my guest.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
why would i ask you anything where i would have to take your answer on faith when i have none in you lol
you would have gotten screens if this was something that would have helped your side in the soc split i bet

enji - 11/07/2017
well i mean you're the one who wanted me in here?

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
:frog: :tea:

comrade - 11/07/2017
what are you even talking about

enji - 11/07/2017
or rather

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
i had no idea you were involved, believe me, i've never wanted you anywhere near me

comrade - 11/07/2017
why would we make up such a specific lie to frame some random fc mod

enji - 11/07/2017
i didn't get put in here willingly

comrade - 11/07/2017
i literally didnt even know they were a mod until nudel told me

enji - 11/07/2017
i don't have time to frame an FC mod

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
you're protesting a lot over something i didn't accuse you over lmao
you're the one who brought up framing

enji - 11/07/2017
but to get to your question - I look at Squidward's face and I think something's up.

happylittelclowds - 11/07/2017
well, thanks for letting us know the details

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
really makes u :HYPERTHONK:

comrade - 11/07/2017
you are just being so antagonistic and i have no idea why

enji - 11/07/2017
That face is classic in cartoons of many kinds as representing somebody who is about to pull some shit or harm someone.
> [15:48] theurbanfervor: but no one thought to get screens?
> [15:48] theurbanfervor: :Thinkception:

stop memeing

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
im being antagonistic because one of my longtime, active moderators was just banned by a relatively inactive mod without saying a word, and when we did ask what was up all we were given is hearsay

comrade - 11/07/2017
you are accusing two poc of lying about racism based on nothing except "well i dont see screens"
did you ASK mmmm if they posted it?

enji - 11/07/2017
I wouldn't blame Bone for jack but if you're gonna pull shit

happylittelclowds - 11/07/2017
its hard to ask DG when he's already banned before we even knew anything  happened

enji - 11/07/2017
Why harangue the two black youth in here?

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
:rolling_eyes:

happylittelclowds - 11/07/2017
our issues with this event is that protocol was not followed

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
if someone unilaterally banned one of ur mods you'd want to see screens
don't pull the liberal idpol shit with me

enji - 11/07/2017
once more
ask bone

comrade - 11/07/2017
that literally has nothing to do with us
we just told bone what happened

enji - 11/07/2017
i didn't tell bone to do anything

comrade - 11/07/2017
and if someone unilaterally banned one of our mods b/c a poc said they were being racist i think i would just trust them

enji - 11/07/2017
and what fucking idpol BS

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
>haranguing the two black youths in here
like i know your race or age

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
its the fucking internet

comrade - 11/07/2017
oh well now you know

enji - 11/07/2017
congratulations you know now so stop doing it

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
congrats
if you have nothing else to add
just leave
since you don't want to be here anyway
i'll hang around and wait for detroit

enji - 11/07/2017
bye bye

comrade - 11/07/2017
i would encourage one of you to pm them and ask if they sent it
i dont think they would lie about it

enji left the group.11/07/2017

comrade - 11/07/2017
because they dont know if there were screens or not

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
What in the fuck is going on?
What kind of bullshit am I reading right now?

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
Juror, you had no right to antagonize enji and McCarthy like that. Self-crit right fucking now.

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
I look away from discord for a few hours and drama flares up

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
Don't be another white fuckboy manarchist.

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
Why is it problematic for me to ban someone from a server I co-founded without taking screenshots?
Why
the
FUCK
Would I worry about shit like that?

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
you can ban whomever you want from your server, no one's taking issue with that
the problem is bone's complete lack of communication
with his fellow FC mods
like this entire situation could have been avoided

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
So then talk to him about it! Starting a fight with Enji and McCarthy isn't going to accomplish shit

comrade - 11/07/2017
theres no 'entire situation' it was just enji trying to explain and you being super antagonistic

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
And what is this about the /r/soc split?

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
ok jan

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
I don't give a rat's ass about soc

comrade - 11/07/2017
that was super inappropriate the way you were talking to us

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
Holy crap, there's no reason that I should return to over 100 notifications on Discord over some shit that could've been settled easily
I thought someone got doxxed or some shit(edited)

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
When 3 people of color tell me about racist shit going down, I tend to take them at their word, as they're often dismissed without mountains of evidence against who they're accusing.
Enji, McCarthy and Detroit have no reason to lie to me.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
i didn't even know enji was a fucking person of color, i just know they're a shit-stirring asshole who has had beef with me since forever

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
Whhhhat???

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
so stop trying to make this a race thing

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
>MPLA Avi
>Not a POC
HOLY SHIT

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
every single one of you - except for comrade who i don't know - knows me better than that
and again, this is not at all about DG, who clearly fucked up
it's about bone taking unilateral action in FC discord with no communication
that is the whole entire issue here

comrade - 11/07/2017
if that is the entire issue
i ask again
why you were being so antagonistic towards enji and i

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
Further, in any decent communist group, when accusations of racism, sexism or inappropriate behavior happen, the person is dismissed from any positions they hold and drummed out.

comrade - 11/07/2017
if it has to do exclusively with bone

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
because enji is an asshole

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
??????

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
@LightningLenin there's a difference between de-modding someone and banning them outright

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
I don't know what happened between you and Enji

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
there's also a difference between actual socialist orgs and shitposting servers
no one disagrees that DG should have been sanctioned, but you can't just ban longstanding mods without saying a goddamn word
and you wouldn't have said anything
if buck hadn't called you out

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
As someone from an oppressed group, I shouldn't have to deal with racist shits in the communities I mod. I shouldn't have to ask permission to ban a racist. FULLCOMMUNISM isn't a socialist org, but a communist shitposting group needs to have certain standards.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
and we do, and we all would have supported dealing with the situation, if you had just brought it to our attention
and like, this is hardly the first time you've acted unilaterally
it's just really annoying to the rest of us, almost all of whom are more active than you

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
I'm more active modding the sub than discord, true, but that's largely because I don't have a desktop computer and have to make do with the discord app.
Further, you don't question that I did it, but how. I don't care if you ban an undercover racist or sexist or reactionary under guise as a communist unilaterally. The centralism needs to happen within the party, but not lord over it.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
what about ragark? what about george?
it's not just DG, it's a pattern

LightningLenin - 11/07/2017
Or in our case, discord.

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
i'd rather be talking about this in FC discord, not in front of comrade and detroit, whom this doesn't really concern

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
It became my concern when I was dragged into this DM group and confronted with white nonsense and pointless antagonism
I don't know what kind of beef you have with Enji, but even in light of that, this is nonsense

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
I'm not going to accuse you of having bad intentions, Juror, but this convo is tainted in racist shit
theurbanfervor - Today at 9:39 PM
so stop trying to make this a race thing

^ This is literally a right wing talking point/conversational trick(edited)

comrade - 11/07/2017
they called it "liberal idpol shit" earlier
did you see that(edited)
i was like :open_mouth:

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
...What

comrade - 11/07/2017
search for it
u will see the context

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
yeah because using your identity as a shield from criticism/as a rhetorical bludgeon is liberal idpol
i prefer materialist idpol

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
@theurbanfervor
[Note: image of Fidel Castro facepalming.]

comrade - 11/07/2017
there wasnt a criticism, it was just your own misguided anger
like u had no reason to be criticizing us at all
the person you said you had a problem with was bone

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
Exactly
Whatever prior beef existed with Enji clearly coloured this entire DM convo/fight
and demanding screenshots, while reasonable in certain contexts, does play into what Bone mentioned earlier about "mountains of evidence"

theurbanfervor - 11/07/2017
speaking frankly, if i had heard it from you, i would have taken it as gospel
i just don't trust enji as far as i can throw them
they literally planted the seed of doubt themselves

Temporarily Unavailable - 11/07/2017
What the fuck did they do?
I've known Enji for a year now
and they are about as far from dishonest as one can get
Ya know what? I don't even need to know.
Sort out whatever communication issues exist in FC