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  2. -01:50:26- ¹º¹º Query with (aish[a])/(miromiro@The.Owner-Keep.me.out.of.your.shit.kthxbi) opened on (Wednesday, April 14th 2010, 01:50:26).
  3. -01:50:26- ¹º¹¹ Total queries: (55)/(~1.1 per day)
  4. -01:50:26- ¹¹º¹ Queries today: (1)
  5. -01:50:26- º¹¹º Common channels: (&#shower ~#MiroMiro ~#lounge ~#help ~#BNC ~#admin)
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  8. -01:50:34- (Edith) hey hun, are you feeling ok?
  9. -01:50:59- (aish[a]) no
  10. -01:51:08- (Edith) Can I help somehow?
  11. -01:58:18- ¹¹¹¹ Nick» (aish[a]) is now known as (aish)
  12. -02:04:12- (Edith) hey aish I'm sorry you pushed yourself into this ordeal.
  13. -02:04:13- (aish) [@::Sorry But You'R PM Has Been::@][@::Denied::@][@:: please talk to me in the main channel ::@ jangan pm saya ]
  14. -02:04:33- (Edith) But you have to understand my reasons and I'm hurt that you didnt' even defend me at all.
  15. -02:04:50- (aish) Edith hey aish I'm sorry you pushed yourself into this ordeal.
  16. -02:04:57- (aish) someone complaned to me about you
  17. -02:05:02- (aish) i did not push my way into it
  18. -02:05:17- (Edith) hun, you got a complaint about me froma kif
  19. -02:05:19- (Edith) and you didn't care.
  20. -02:05:23- (Edith) you saw what he said.
  21. -02:05:29- (Edith) and you can ask me for the logs.
  22. -02:05:39- (Edith) other than that it's unfair.
  23. -02:05:51- (aish) oh yes nice blame me
  24. -02:05:57- (aish) i was away watching tv
  25. -02:06:04- (Edith) and you should be doing that more
  26. -02:06:08- (Edith) you overwork yourself
  27. -02:06:11- (Edith) and overstress yourself.
  28. -02:06:37- (Edith) but he comes in and attacks me when I ask him to change his name as it involves drugs.
  29. -02:06:49- (aish) the nick was fine
  30. -02:06:53- (Edith) do you want the logs? so you can see it for yourself?
  31. -02:06:54- (aish) i dont agree with you
  32. -02:07:14- (Edith) or do you not care about my side because I'm not as old of a friwend as he is?
  33. -02:08:00- (aish) he is not a old friend
  34. -02:08:02- (aish) ive seen the logs
  35. -02:08:14- (aish) i really dont have a problim wiht that nick
  36. -02:08:36- (Edith) that's liek that display picture west had.
  37. -02:08:37- (aish) it was just a nick
  38. -02:08:43- (aish) west?
  39. -02:08:55- (Edith) akif
  40. -02:08:58- (Edith) not west.
  41. -02:09:05- (aish) i said the nick was ok
  42. -02:09:13- (aish) why are you fighting me
  43. -02:09:31- (Edith) I'm telling you that you don't care after all those names he called me
  44. -02:09:45- (aish) ok what do you want me to do?
  45. -02:10:05- (Edith) ...
  46. -02:10:20- (Edith) seriously?
  47. -02:10:24- (aish) yeah
  48. -02:10:29- (aish) what do you want me to do?
  49. -02:10:50- (Edith) not shout at me as if I've castrated a friend of yours
  50. -02:10:58- (Edith) and maybe tell him not to call em those names
  51. -02:11:01- (aish) how can i shout?
  52. -02:11:03- (aish) this is irc
  53. -02:11:05- (Edith) maybe defending me wouldhave been nice
  54. -02:11:17- (Edith) not just dismissing.
  55. -02:11:56- (aish) well the name calling came after you and him fight 2 chans and fb and in pm
  56. -02:12:07- (Edith) no.
  57. -02:12:24- (Edith) I don't know what logs he gave you..
  58. -02:12:49- (aish) well there is only one logs
  59. -02:14:06- (Edith) I'lls end you my copy of all of the conversations.
  60. -02:14:11- (aish) no
  61. -02:14:14- (aish) i have logserv
  62. -02:14:22- (Edith) then read the PM he sent me
  63. -02:14:24- (aish) i dont need the logs its over now
  64. -02:15:13- (Edith) well still it hurts that you were so nonchalant about it all.
  65. -02:15:37- (aish) oh god
  66. -02:15:48- (aish) well its just like any other drama here
  67. -02:15:50- (aish) im sick of them
  68. -02:15:51- (Edith) I don't want you to do shit as an ircop.
  69. -02:16:36- (Edith) I'm jsut telling you it hurts when you dump someone when there is another person that you knew for longer doing a complaint.
  70. -02:16:42- (aish) omg
  71. -02:17:09- (aish) dump?
  72. -02:17:26- (Edith) that's what it felt like.
  73. -02:17:38- (aish) edith you were nasty to him dont make out like your princess golden
  74. -02:17:50- (Edith) I wasn't making out like I'm right...
  75. -02:18:29- (Edith) but do you honestly think I deserve being called all those names after I ask him to change his name? Then he changes it to something to be a smartass.
  76. -02:19:01- (aish) in suture let the ircops deal with ban nicks
  77. -02:19:02- (Edith) and I thought it's offensive as it involves drugs. Hence why I told him to do so.
  78. -02:19:02- (aish) ok?
  79. -02:19:08- (aish) then this shit wont happen
  80. -02:19:13- (aish) ok?
  81. -02:19:20- (aish) then i dont have to be ion this situation
  82. -02:19:29- • Edith sighs.
  83. -02:19:33- (Edith) ok aish.
  84. -02:19:57- (Edith) I'll let everyone else deal with things I can't deal with even though they aren't paying attention.
  85. -02:20:35- (aish) well your job is in #help
  86. -02:20:39- (aish) help op
  87. -02:20:48- (aish) and be nice in #help
  88. -02:21:14- (Edith) and I do that well as you've seen proven twice or three times.
  89. -02:22:05- (aish) we done?
  90. -02:22:14- (Edith) We done?
  91. -02:22:28- (Edith) Yes aish, I'm terribly sorry you got dragged into this.
  92. -02:22:50- (aish) well its good its nice that this kinda thing causes me and meep problims
  93. -02:22:51- (aish) i love it
  94. -02:22:53- (aish) live for it
  95. -02:22:55- (Edith) Again, I'm sorrya fter what has happened to you recently. And I'm sorry i don't know all of the rules you have.
  96. -02:24:03- (aish) wel the rule is what i say goes
  97. -02:24:06- (aish) i pay for all this
  98. -02:24:11- (aish) so if i say a nick is ok
  99. -02:24:13- (aish) its ok
  100. -02:24:13- (Edith) yes
  101. -02:24:16- (Edith) you pay for all of it
  102. -02:24:18- (aish) because i pay for it
  103. -02:24:19- (Edith) and you slave over it
  104. -02:24:25- (Edith) and this is your baby
  105. -02:24:25- (aish) nope
  106. -02:24:30- (Edith) we appreciate all youa re doing aish
  107. -02:24:33- (aish) nope but i pay for it
  108. -02:24:33- (Edith) we really do.
  109. -02:24:44- (aish) dont speak to me from other ppl
  110. -02:24:48- (Edith) but we don't have what you have in your mind.
  111. -02:25:00- (aish) i know how you guys bitch about me and back stab me
  112. -02:25:04- (aish) we?
  113. -02:25:07- (aish) who the fuck is we?
  114. -02:25:19- (Edith) serisously aish?
  115. -02:25:23- (aish) who is we?
  116. -02:25:24- (Edith) You think I'm attakcing you now?
  117. -02:25:35- (Edith) is that what you think right now?
  118. -02:25:37- (aish) who is we?
  119. -02:25:48- (Edith) we, I don't know could it be the regular users?
  120. -02:26:03- (Edith) I mean youa ct as if we are all shit.
  121. -02:26:19- (Edith) but ok
  122. -02:26:21- (aish) i act as if all the users are shit?
  123. -02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:00- (aish) i know how you guys bitch about me and back stab me
  124. -02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:04- (aish) we?
  125. -02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:07- (aish) who the fuck is we?
  126. -02:26:45- (Edith) who backstabbed you?
  127. -02:26:46- (aish) well i dont know who you are speaking in behalf of
  128. -02:27:10- (Edith) well i'm sorry you think that way.
  129. -02:27:17- (aish) hey
  130. -02:27:22- (Edith) I assumed that we would mean most of the people.
  131. -02:27:32- (aish) you was saying "we" so i wanted to know on whos behalf you was talking about
  132. -02:27:32- (Edith) The ones that come here because of you.
  133. -02:27:41- (aish) "<Edith> we appreciate all youa re doing aish"
  134. -02:28:00- (Edith) you're picking the whole sentence apart hun.
  135. -02:28:06- (Edith) but ok.
  136. -02:28:10- (aish) no i was just asking who you ment
  137. -02:28:13- (Edith) if you want me to only speak for myself I will.
  138. -02:28:14- (aish) not picking at all
  139. -02:28:21- (aish) yes thats betetr if you do
  140. -02:28:23- (Edith) I don't want to hurt you.
  141. -02:28:30- (Edith) I don't want to backtab you
  142. -02:28:37- (Edith) it just so happens I genuinely CARE about you.
  143. -02:28:48- (Edith) if you don't believe me read my memo
  144. -02:28:59- (Edith) and I appreciate ally ou do.
  145. -02:29:13- (Edith) I appreciate that you're paying out of your own pocket for the servers.
  146. -02:29:25- (Edith) and you're doing it selfleslly
  147. -02:29:32- (Edith) and that you slave over so many configs
  148. -02:29:41- (Edith) when you obviously have better things to do.
  149. -02:29:50- (Edith) and I'm sorry that you get pulled into so much drama
  150. -02:29:58- (Edith) and trouble, but people look up to you.
  151. -02:30:01- (aish) my friend has not gone to a better place
  152. -02:30:01- (Edith) they think fo you as a mother
  153. -02:30:03- (aish) my friend wil be in hell
  154. -02:30:05- (aish) my friend wil be in hell
  155. -02:30:05- (Edith) so they come bitching to you.
  156. -02:30:07- (aish) my friend wil be in hell hes not in a better fucking place
  157. -02:30:17- (Edith) How do you know?
  158. -02:31:14- (Edith) I'm sorry, but I really tried to confort you.
  159. -02:31:23- (Edith) I didn't think you'd take it lie that.
  160. -02:31:33- (aish) because i am religious and i know when someone takes their life they go to hell
  161. -02:31:34- (Edith) *like
  162. -02:31:47- (Edith) I'm not religious.
  163. -02:31:52- (Edith) So I wouldn't know any of it.
  164. -02:31:57- (Edith) I'm sorry.
  165. -02:33:44- (aish) and that user is wests friend
  166. -02:34:08- (Edith) I don't care whose friend it is.
  167. -02:34:13- (Edith) it is a user.
  168. -02:34:23- (aish) i dont care if you care or not, im telling you
  169. -02:34:48- (Edith) Do youw ant me to treat him different than any other user?
  170. -02:35:01- (aish) i was just letting you know
  171. -02:35:23- (Edith) He told me before.
  172. -02:35:51- (Edith) with some glamor as if he owns me because he's west's friend.
  173. -02:36:40- (Edith) But aish. Look if you listen to anything I will ever say just remember
  174. -02:36:47- (Edith) I'm not here to attack you. I care.
  175. -02:37:17- (Edith) Whatever you choose to do to me is fine, gline me, whatever, but know that I do care.
  176. -02:37:22- (aish) huh?
  177. -02:37:25- (aish) gline you?
  178. -02:37:32- (Edith) and I do make an honest effort to keep you out of the crap I can handle.
  179. -02:37:34- (aish) what the fuck are you talking about?
  180. -02:37:53- (Edith) Like what happened to root.
  181. -02:38:01- (Edith) no wait ryto.
  182. -02:38:13- (aish) edith
  183. -02:38:16- (aish) no one is gline you
  184. -02:38:28- (aish) and dont bring up my friendships
  185. -02:38:40- (aish) marc and i go way back and i resent you even talking about it
  186. -02:39:41- (Edith) It just feels like almost anything I do, or try to do right, I upset you.
  187. -02:39:57- (Edith) hell, I'm scared of you at times.
  188. -02:40:09- (aish) of what?
  189. -02:40:12- (aish) i will hack you?
  190. -02:40:23- (aish) or i will ban you ?
  191. -02:40:23- (Edith) you wouldn't be able to.
  192. -02:40:27- (aish) what?
  193. -02:40:36- (Edith) I'ms cared you'll take something I say the wrong way and just disown me
  194. -02:40:37- (aish) i would tell you to stop being so bossy in #admin
  195. -02:40:43- (aish) like the otehr day you was with west
  196. -02:40:44- (Edith) via bans and such
  197. -02:41:02- (aish) <Sadness> this is #admin not talk whatever the hell you want.
  198. -02:41:02- (aish) <West> this is #admin not #concentrationcamp
  199. -02:41:27- (Edith) it jsut seemed like we were going off topic and I know ou hate having chatter in admin.
  200. -02:42:13- (aish) well your just the help op
  201. -02:42:17- (aish) you sont tell the other ircops to stop talking
  202. -02:42:19- (aish) dont
  203. -02:42:35- (aish) and why would you have to be scared of me?
  204. -02:42:50- (Edith) here is why.
  205. -02:42:58- (Edith) Remember when we had chatter in admin?
  206. -02:43:04- (Edith) I was part of the random chatting stuff
  207. -02:43:21- (Edith) and you told me that this is admin, and it's for network related stuff.
  208. -02:43:26- (Edith) not network adminsitration.
  209. -02:43:31- (aish) yes but thats not for you to enforce
  210. -02:43:44- (Edith) that's what I'm talking about.
  211. -02:44:00- (Edith) I don't know what I can and can not do.
  212. -02:44:09- (Edith) let the ops have useless chatter inadmin
  213. -02:44:14- (Edith) which i know you dislike
  214. -02:44:15- (aish) well you cant have nicks like suicide
  215. -02:44:19- (Edith) and tell them not to talk
  216. -02:44:33- (Edith) and you still jump on me becuase I told them to do something
  217. -02:44:38- (Edith) you told me not to do.
  218. -02:44:40- (aish) see im afraid of you
  219. -02:44:52- (aish) because you can be so sensitive and mean
  220. -02:44:55- (Edith) of what that I'll one day prove myself worthy of something?
  221. -02:44:59- (aish) and you can be so nasty to people
  222. -02:45:10- (Edith) nasty to people yes
  223. -02:45:18- (Edith) nasty to friends, another story.
  224. -02:45:34- (aish) and you say stuff to others that you would be furious if they said to you
  225. -02:45:51- (aish) and i never comment because i am afriad to hurt your feelings
  226. -02:45:51- (Edith) like what?
  227. -02:46:00- (Edith) ROFLMAO!
  228. -02:46:04- (Edith) Ok you hurt my feelings
  229. -02:46:08- (Edith) what am I going to do?
  230. -02:46:15- (Edith) cry and /part?
  231. -02:46:29- (Edith) then come back a day or a few hours later?
  232. -02:46:50- (Edith) I'm scared to hurt you because you can actually DO something.
  233. -02:46:50- (aish) well you say you cut your self
  234. -02:46:58- (Edith) Yes, old news.
  235. -02:47:18- (aish) what is it you think i can actually do?
  236. -02:47:26- (Edith) oh let's see here
  237. -02:47:49- (Edith) ban, remove what limited power I have, disown em as a friend
  238. -02:47:56- (Edith) and of course have everyone hate me.
  239. -02:48:05- (aish) no one would hate you
  240. -02:48:05- (Edith) you're a leader.
  241. -02:48:09- (aish) hah
  242. -02:48:14- (Edith) people follow
  243. -02:48:16- (aish) naw
  244. -02:48:22- (Edith) and you prove your power via iron fist.
  245. -02:48:24- (aish) thats what you think
  246. -02:48:28- (aish) thats not true at all
  247. -02:48:54- (Edith) hun it's true.
  248. -02:48:55- (Edith) -02:24:03- (aish) wel the rule is what i say goes
  249. -02:48:55- (Edith) -02:24:06- (aish) i pay for all this
  250. -02:48:57- (aish) if that was true why was meep defending you to me?
  251. -02:49:10- (aish) its one thing to own this
  252. -02:49:11- (Edith) why would he defend me?
  253. -02:49:12- (aish) i am no leder
  254. -02:49:16- (Edith) I'm capable of defending myself.
  255. -02:49:25- (Edith) hun what yous ay goes.
  256. -02:49:28- (Edith) hence you're a leader
  257. -02:49:36- (aish) well only to admins
  258. -02:49:36- (Edith) what I say may or may not go.
  259. -02:49:39- (Edith) no
  260. -02:49:41- (Edith) to everyone.
  261. -02:49:44- (aish) noe one ever lissens to me in #lounge
  262. -02:49:55- (Edith) it's lounge lols.
  263. -02:50:04- (Edith) nobody listens to anybody there.
  264. -02:50:07- (aish) i hate that channel
  265. -02:50:24- (aish) i just hang mostly in my own channel and talk with my friends
  266. -02:50:25- (Edith) that's why I stopped showing up regularly.
  267. -02:50:44- (Edith) not to mention it's being taken over by trolls.
  268. -02:50:59- (aish) what trolls?
  269. -02:51:05- (aish) crewin?
  270. -02:51:07- (Edith) I did runa scenerio simulation about lounge.
  271. -02:51:15- (aish) he was shuned
  272. -02:51:23- (Edith) crewin, that new guy that isnists I'ma fat whore bitch
  273. -02:51:39- (Edith) a few others I could list
  274. -02:51:44- (Edith) justin being another one.
  275. -02:54:18- (aish) well why do you join in there if ppl bother you
  276. -02:54:36- (Edith) Because I feel like it's a duty.
  277. -02:54:42- (aish) naw
  278. -02:54:47- (aish) not at all
  279. -02:54:49- (Edith) you told me that I'ma helpop.
  280. -02:54:59- (Edith) and you told me to ban people that cause drama
  281. -02:55:01- (aish) your not needed in #lounge as helpop
  282. -02:55:03- (Edith) so I'll do that.
  283. -02:55:13- (Edith) I know..
  284. -02:55:17- (Edith) but I want to be there
  285. -02:55:27- (Edith) so i can stop things from getting hard on you.
  286. -02:55:35- (aish) i dont want that
  287. -02:55:39- (aish) i look after my self
  288. -02:55:42- (Edith) I know.
  289. -02:55:46- (aish) #lounge is my personal channel
  290. -02:55:50- (Edith) but you're so busy with more important things.
  291. -02:55:52- (aish) and so is #aish
  292. -02:56:06- (Edith) and I jsut don't think it's right for you tog et dragged int past drama.
  293. -02:56:07- (aish) i dont need your help or you to take up the slack
  294. -02:56:37- (Edith) I know you don't really need me.
  295. -02:56:45- (aish) #lounge and #aish are my places
  296. -02:56:47- (Edith) hell, you're a concrete reinforced pillar.
  297. -02:56:54- (aish) i dont want anyone kick or ban from there
  298. -02:57:00- (Edith) but every now and then I want to help you.
  299. -02:57:13- (aish) well its not help if its not wanted
  300. -02:57:18- (aish) you help in #help
  301. -02:58:16- (Edith) but you do so much and you still ahve to deal with petty crap, you yourself don't want to deal with.
  302. -02:59:23- (aish) you know what i need more then i know what i need?
  303. -02:59:33- (aish) because i kinda feel like your crossing a line here
  304. -02:59:35- (aish) and well
  305. -02:59:37- (aish) you know
  306. -03:00:20- (Edith) yes I'm crossing a line if you want to make it sound like that.
  307. -03:00:31- (Edith) but my reasons for doing so is to alliveate pressure on you.
  308. -03:00:41- (Edith) if you haven't noticed, I care about your well being...
  309. -03:01:03- (aish) this whole conversation is been going on and on now for lets see [16:03] to 16:59
  310. -03:01:34- (aish) i dont need you to care about my well being
  311. -03:01:42- (aish) dont you understand that?
  312. -03:02:44- (Edith) So you say that I should not care about you at all....?
  313. -03:03:01- (aish) appropriately sure
  314. -03:03:27- (Edith) seriosuly?
  315. -03:03:36- (aish) you can care appropriately sure
  316. -03:03:37- (Edith) So you're saying you don't want me as your friend?
  317. -03:03:43- (Edith) Oh.
  318. -03:03:54- (Edith) :s
  319. -03:05:04- (Edith) Ok so let em get it straight.
  320. -03:05:22- -West- i would have just banned him
  321. -03:05:51- (Edith) you want me to barely care about you, you want me to not say anything to an op, even though you specifically told me not to do whatever it is,
  322. -03:06:18- (aish) omg
  323. -03:06:20- (aish) you know
  324. -03:06:24- (aish) i am so confused now
  325. -03:06:26- (Edith) you want me to not do anything to help you on the network except in help?
  326. -03:06:29- (Edith) So am I.
  327. -03:06:32- (aish) "barely care"?
  328. -03:06:43- (Edith) I really care about you.
  329. -03:06:45- (aish) your a help op
  330. -03:06:49- (aish) you help in #help
  331. -03:06:58- (aish) thats why i gave you that possion
  332. -03:06:59- (Edith) and you just say to not care as much.
  333. -03:07:02- (aish) i thought you would like it
  334. -03:07:16- (aish) but i see like lexi its been a huge mistake
  335. -03:07:23- (Edith) I do, but if I know some of the rules you told me I thought I was also supposed to enforce them.
  336. -03:07:46- (aish) well
  337. -03:08:03- (Edith) you never told me that I wasn't supposed to do anything outside of help.
  338. -03:08:05- (aish) you know west zula and meep and benf are there to enforce the big rules
  339. -03:08:13- (aish) zuka
  340. -03:08:22- (Edith) you said that I'm supposed to be helpful, and by that I assumed rule-remindng is included.
  341. -03:08:45- (aish) well i made bad choices
  342. -03:09:00- (aish) i really thought we would be a happy team and work well together
  343. -03:09:04- (aish) but i was wrong
  344. -03:09:06- (Edith) I'm sorry I'ma giant fuckup to you.
  345. -03:09:07- (aish) andf i have faild
  346. -03:09:11- (aish) no
  347. -03:09:14- (aish) im the fuck up
  348. -03:09:23- (aish) i am a stupid dreamer
  349. -03:09:24- (Edith) I was trying to help. but with no guidelines I don't know how and how much.
  350. -03:09:32- (Edith) You built the network as it is
  351. -03:09:34- (aish) thinking its all going to be cool and smoth sailing
  352. -03:09:36- (Edith) how are you the fuckup?
  353. -03:09:59- (Edith) Hun, you're running a network of minds unlinked to each other with each having a different idea.
  354. -03:10:01- (aish) well you know meep can guid you
  355. -03:10:13- (Edith) there is no way you can expect smoothness over the net.
  356. -03:10:15- (aish) but no that stuff all left to me
  357. -03:10:20- (aish) unless i fuck up
  358. -03:10:25- (aish) then you all are down on me
  359. -03:10:32- (aish) and once again aish is the cunt
  360. -03:10:36- (aish) like lexi hates me
  361. -03:10:49- (aish) i wii dont know even why she stays in lounge
  362. -03:11:18- (Edith) ....
  363. -03:11:23- (Edith) I'm down on you?
  364. -03:11:29- (aish) well
  365. -03:11:31- (Edith) I'm down on you because I'm confused.
  366. -03:11:51- (Edith) I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do or not do, then I get shouted at for doing something I thought I was meant to do.
  367. -03:12:07- (aish) you help in #help
  368. -03:12:09- (Edith) so yes, if down on you means getting clarity, then I am.
  369. -03:12:13- (aish) help users register their nicks
  370. -03:12:20- (aish) help userw with a vhots
  371. -03:12:24- (Edith) most people don't know aboout help.
  372. -03:12:27- (aish) unless you dont want to do that any more
  373. -03:12:41- (Edith) I've been doing a damn good job.
  374. -03:12:54- (aish) than you must have some direction of what to do
  375. -03:13:00- (aish) because your doing a great job
  376. -03:13:09- (aish) you did a fantastic job of the art work
  377. -03:13:31- (Edith) which is prett useless.
  378. -03:13:35- (aish) so you see there is places you fully understand what your doing
  379. -03:13:38- (Edith) Just a pretty few pictures.
  380. -03:13:47- (aish) the face of the site
  381. -03:14:18- (Edith) A bunch of pretty pictures...
  382. -03:14:26- (aish) ok then
  383. -03:14:37- (Edith) but it's here where I want to help.
  384. -03:14:48- (Edith) and I want to be useful, since I know the ruoles I've been told
  385. -03:14:59- (Edith) therefore I try and enforce them to give other people relax time.
  386. -03:15:06- (Edith) but that oversteps my boundry somehow.
  387. -03:15:14- (Edith) which i didn't know.
  388. -03:15:20- (aish) well now you can be sure
  389. -03:15:29- (aish) if you think a nick is bad
  390. -03:15:44- (aish) talk to meep or zuka or benf or adam or me
  391. -03:15:46- (Edith) then just leave it?
  392. -03:15:56- (Edith) well adam is red?
  393. -03:16:00- (aish) yes
  394. -03:16:10- (aish) but to me that nick was fine
  395. -03:16:10- (Edith) because if I remember right he also asked him to change the nick.
  396. -03:16:17- (aish) after you did
  397. -03:16:29- (aish) he did to back you up
  398. -03:16:38- (aish) how ever i did not see any problim with that nick
  399. -03:17:10- (Edith) you have no problem with smoke a lot of pot as a name?
  400. -03:17:13- (aish) its not lie its harycunt
  401. -03:17:42- (aish) the nick is smokealotapotamus>
  402. -03:17:45- (aish) the nick is smokealotapotamus
  403. -03:18:02- (Edith) essentially smoke a lot of pot -dionsaurending
  404. -03:18:04- (aish) and we have users here that take drugs
  405. -03:18:11- (Edith) that's what I was thinkgin about.
  406. -03:18:13- (aish) gumby west root
  407. -03:18:21- (aish) so i dont know whats the problim
  408. -03:18:27- (aish) and i say the nick is fine
  409. -03:18:36- (aish) ishootherron would be bad
  410. -03:18:37- (Edith) well you deleted akif's picture on the site
  411. -03:18:42- (aish) yes
  412. -03:18:49- (Edith) after I showed it to you and told you that I don't think we condone the use of drugs.
  413. -03:18:53- (Edith) that's the reasoning.
  414. -03:19:00- (aish) i never said that
  415. -03:19:07- (Edith) it wasn't to lash out at him.
  416. -03:19:11- (aish) i did want to be seen to advertising cigeretts
  417. -03:19:39- (Edith) you thought it was advertisement, I thought it was sayign that drugs are ok.
  418. -03:19:45- (Edith) hence why I jumped on his nick
  419. -03:19:59- (Edith) itt just seemed like it's the same thing to me.
  420. -03:20:12- (Edith) that's probably the misunderstanding.
  421. -03:20:13- (aish) well to me the nick was fine
  422. -03:20:53- (Edith) Ok.
  423. -03:21:03- (aish) i have said all along
  424. -03:21:05- (Edith) so then I should not enforce any rules?
  425. -03:21:22- (Edith) let anyone do what they want 24/7
  426. -03:22:00- (aish) edith your help is really needed in #help
  427. -03:22:57- (Edith) Ugh, this won't be easy for me at all.
  428. -03:23:01- (Edith) Usually I learn the rules
  429. -03:23:11- (Edith) and spit them out or enforce them as much as I can.
  430. -03:23:21- (Edith) rules are there for a reason after all.
  431. -03:23:28- (aish) well thats the job of the ircops
  432. -03:24:00- (Edith) it may be their job but I've been doing that everywhere I went.
  433. -03:24:16- (Edith) if there is a spam forum post, or trolling, or racism
  434. -03:24:20- (Edith) if it is against the rules.
  435. -03:24:29- (Edith) i will remind them of the rules.
  436. -03:24:34- (Edith) that's how I've always operated.
  437. -03:24:50- (Edith) but it's arder here because I don't know all the rules.
  438. -03:24:56- (Edith) I know bits and peaces.
  439. -03:25:13- (Edith) and even then I upset people if I enforce what I know.
  440. -03:25:15- (aish) thats because the rules are not for you to enforce
  441. -03:25:22- (Edith) I can't help it.
  442. -03:25:23- (aish) so you dont need to know them
  443. -03:25:27- (Edith) it's like breathing air.
  444. -03:25:37- (Edith) you can't stop breating air
  445. -03:25:49- (aish) well your not ircop
  446. -03:25:50- (Edith) same way I can't stand not knowing what the rules are.
  447. -03:26:00- (Edith) it's like breathing air.
  448. -03:26:03- (Edith) like I said.
  449. -03:26:15- (Edith) I know I'm not an ircop but I still can't help but say soemthing.
  450. -03:26:48- (aish) then it will cause conflict when your not suported in the enforcement
  451. -03:27:18- (Edith) if I'm not supported
  452. -03:27:21- (Edith) then it's not a rule.
  453. -03:27:38- (aish) well if its not your job to enforce a rule
  454. -03:27:40- (aish) and you do it
  455. -03:27:54- (aish) then you are doing the wrong thing
  456. -03:28:01- (Edith) leading by example.
  457. -03:28:03- (aish) thats what i am saying
  458. -03:28:09- (Edith) wait.
  459. -03:28:14- (Edith) so if I support the rules
  460. -03:28:16- (Edith) I am wrong
  461. -03:28:32- (aish) if you enforce them with out the authority
  462. -03:28:40- (Edith) the same rules people abide or sould abide by, as long as it's me it's wrong?
  463. -03:28:50- (Edith) I CAN'T enforce
  464. -03:28:54- (Edith) I CAN remind.
  465. -03:28:58- (aish) no thats not it
  466. -03:29:19- (aish) you said you dont know all the rules
  467. -03:29:26- (Edith) you're telling me it's wrong if I say that people should not do chit chat in admin
  468. -03:29:27- (aish) i said thats because you dont need to know them
  469. -03:29:40- (Edith) and you said I have no authority for REMINDING or saying that in thec hanne.
  470. -03:29:52- (Edith) after you crucified me for doing so.
  471. -03:30:04- (aish) crucified?
  472. -03:30:07- (Edith) yes.
  473. -03:30:15- (aish) thats a little over the top
  474. -03:30:17- (Edith) you don't remember?
  475. -03:30:31- (aish) edith
  476. -03:30:44- (Edith) it was as if I stomped on your toe with cleets.
  477. -03:31:12- (Edith) just because I told west not to use admin for a random conversation.
  478. -03:31:42- (aish) well you dont tell west what to do in admin
  479. -03:31:46- (aish) and you dont speak for me
  480. -03:31:49- (aish) its that easy
  481. -03:31:55- (Edith) I don't speak for you
  482. -03:32:01- (Edith) I spoke for the rule you set.
  483. -03:32:15- (aish) well you see you dont need to enforce the rules in #admin
  484. -03:32:21- (aish) ok?
  485. -03:32:24- (aish) so relax
  486. -03:32:33- (Edith) hun how can I?
  487. -03:32:40- (aish) like when i was trying to make an anouncement the toher day
  488. -03:32:47- (aish) omg
  489. -03:32:58- (aish) you know what
  490. -03:33:02- (Edith) I never said anything about that.
  491. -03:33:12- (aish) i am sick of this conversation i no matter what i say its wrong
  492. -03:33:21- (aish) this is 1 hr and 309 mins
  493. -03:33:23- (Edith) I'm confused as hell.
  494. -03:33:26- (aish) 30*
  495. -03:33:36- (Edith) I'm TRYING to understand what the hell youw ant me to do.
  496. -03:33:42- (Edith) and it's not easy.
  497. -03:33:44- (aish) help in help
  498. -03:33:56- (Edith) that and not do anythign about rules
  499. -03:34:11- (aish) what rules are you tlaking about?
  500. -03:34:13- (Edith) ie let everyone spam, troll, bullshit, and run to an ircop 24/7
  501. -03:34:21- (aish) you say the ruyl;e and i will tell you if you can enforce them or not
  502. -03:34:39- (Edith) no useless chat in admin, admin is for network stuff
  503. -03:34:44- (Edith) don't abuse vhosts
  504. -03:34:48- (aish) how can you stop people going to ircops?
  505. -03:34:48- (Edith) don't spam
  506. -03:34:51- (Edith) don't pick on toehrs
  507. -03:34:56- (Edith) don't use offensive nick names
  508. -03:35:12- (aish) spam = join /server blah.net balh
  509. -03:35:43- (Edith) same thing as a flood.
  510. -03:35:52- (Edith) which is also not allowed
  511. -03:35:53- (aish) well botserv fixes that
  512. -03:35:58- (Edith) not in all channels.
  513. -03:35:59- (aish) and bad words
  514. -03:36:05- (aish) i have block most bad nicks
  515. -03:36:05- (Edith) on miromiro only.
  516. -03:36:08- (aish) in the forbid list
  517. -03:36:23- (aish) where other do it matter?
  518. -03:36:41- (Edith) oh I don't know could it be in channels people actually talk in?
  519. -03:37:08- (aish) well then its up to the owner of their channel to deal with that
  520. -03:37:12- (Edith) the only channels I seem to "step over the line" are in admin and lounge.
  521. -03:37:14- (Edith) why?
  522. -03:37:22- (Edith) because I have moments where I'm right.
  523. -03:37:38- (Edith) and if the owner is gone the channel is allowed to go to hell.
  524. -03:37:50- (aish) #lounge is already hell
  525. -03:37:56- (Edith) not really.
  526. -03:38:04- (Edith) if some are removed it's a normal channel.
  527. -03:38:05- (aish) well thats a matter of opnion
  528. -03:38:14- (Edith) it's a matter of observation.
  529. -03:38:23- (Edith) but yeah i suppose youc an count that as a form of opinion.
  530. -03:38:29- (aish) well thats why i talk mostly in #aish
  531. -03:38:44- (Edith) in #aish? the channel i ASKED permission to join
  532. -03:38:51- (Edith) and was not given an answer to?
  533. -03:39:06- (aish) i guess that was the answer
  534. -03:39:35- (Edith) yeah a rather rude and blunt one.
  535. -03:39:42- (aish) how is it rude?
  536. -03:39:59- (Edith) "hey aish can I join #aish?"
  537. -03:40:04- (Edith) "or should I jsut fuck off"
  538. -03:40:15- (Edith) Aish has changed nick to aish[a]
  539. -03:40:19- (Edith) or something similar.
  540. -03:40:21- (aish) see your idea of no is fuck off?
  541. -03:40:41- (Edith) the fuck off was later when i had no answer
  542. -03:40:59- (Edith) and I was hoping for an answer after that line or default to the answer of "fuck off"
  543. -03:41:00- (aish) well i didnt want to say anything
  544. -03:41:16- (aish) because i knew you would be pissed
  545. -03:41:37- (Edith) well it kindof hurts.
  546. -03:41:43- (Edith) here I am trying to do my best.
  547. -03:41:43- (aish) why?
  548. -03:41:54- (Edith) and thinking I'm a good friend of yours
  549. -03:41:59- (aish) whats my channel got to do with it?
  550. -03:42:10- (Edith) and I'm usually basically shat on.
  551. -03:42:15- (aish) how?
  552. -03:42:16- (Edith) it's an example.
  553. -03:42:34- (Edith) if you reread this entire conversation you'll notice something.
  554. -03:42:34- (aish) because youre not in my pvt chan?
  555. -03:43:03- ¹º¹º Part» (aish:#help) (miromiro@The.Owner-Keep.me.out.of.your.shit.kthxbi) (parting)
  556. -03:43:20- (Edith) it just makes me sad.
  557. -03:43:35- (Edith) because I honestly think,a nd thoguht that I was a good friend to you
  558. -03:43:41- (aish) its a god damn channel
  559. -03:43:42- (Edith) and that I was doing well in helping you.
  560. -03:43:53- (aish) whats my channel got to do with anything?
  561. -03:43:54- (Edith) I'm nto TALKING about the channel any more.
  562. -03:44:01- (aish) there is like 10 ppl in there
  563. -03:44:08- (Edith) if you reread this entire conversation you'll notice something.
  564. -03:44:09- (aish) omg
  565. -03:44:16- (aish) what?
  566. -03:44:17- (Edith) that's what I'm talking about.
  567. -03:44:21- (aish) i will not be re reading it
  568. -03:44:28- (aish) because i will be twice as confused
  569. -03:44:39- (aish) and its over 1 and 1/2 hours long
  570. -03:44:40- (Edith) if you walk away for an hour
  571. -03:44:43- (Edith) clear your head
  572. -03:44:47- (aish) no
  573. -03:44:48- (Edith) and read it again you'll see....
  574. -03:44:51- (aish) i am not reading it again
  575. -03:44:58- (Edith) then it's too much to ask for.
  576. -03:45:19- (Edith) ok I'll come out and just ask you.
  577. -03:45:27- (Edith) and you have to give me an answer.
  578. -03:45:42- (Edith) do you still consider me as a friend of yours?
  579. -03:45:45- (aish) what are we like 12?
  580. -03:45:53- (Edith) and do you still want me to be here
  581. -03:45:55- (Edith) Answer it.
  582. -03:46:31- (aish) i consider you to be someone who i am developing a friendship with
  583. -03:46:45- (Edith) developing...?
  584. -03:46:46- (aish) yes i would like you to be here but we need to change a few things
  585. -03:46:57- (aish) edith i know you 2 months
  586. -03:47:02- (aish) 3 months tops
  587. -03:47:04- (Edith) I seriously thought we were FRIENDS....
  588. -03:47:11- (aish) we are
  589. -03:47:19- (aish) but we are in the early days of friendship
  590. -03:47:44- (Edith) ok that explains one thing.
  591. -03:47:48- (aish) its not the same as like adam who i know 8 years
  592. -03:47:58- (Edith) and what do we need to change?
  593. -03:48:03- (Edith) other than clarifying rules.
  594. -03:48:12- (aish) well i have told you the rules
  595. -03:48:31- (Edith) the rules being "I pay for this, what I say goes"?
  596. -03:48:36- (aish) nope
  597. -03:48:48- (aish) but thanks for being so patronising
  598. -03:48:52- (Edith) I'm not.
  599. -03:49:19- (Edith) I want to figure out what I can dow ithout fucking up and getting you upset or pissed or annoyed or any other negative derrevation.
  600. -03:49:22- (aish) the changes
  601. -03:49:23- (aish) well
  602. -03:49:52- (aish) well stop being so hostile to users you dont like
  603. -03:50:32- (aish) just put them on ignore
  604. -03:50:36- (Edith) ok so stop being myself.
  605. -03:50:40- (aish) carrying on fighting is no help at all
  606. -03:51:28- (aish) see i never said stop being your self
  607. -03:51:35- (Edith) I can't help it aish.
  608. -03:51:39- (aish) i cant tlak to you if you stone wall me like this young lady
  609. -03:51:41- (Edith) that's how I am.
  610. -03:52:01- (aish) then i dont want you to be op in #lounge of #miromiro
  611. -03:52:02- (Edith) I keep epopel at bay until i know how they are, then I soften up to them.
  612. -03:52:22- (aish) you can be what you like
  613. -03:52:27- (aish) be your self
  614. -03:52:31- (Edith) I can't..
  615. -03:52:36- (Edith) because then you'lls ay I'm harsh.
  616. -03:52:42- (aish) but i dont want you having power over users
  617. -03:52:45- (aish) no its fine
  618. -03:52:50- (aish) you can be harsh
  619. -03:53:02- (aish) just i dont want you to have power over users
  620. -03:53:31- (Edith) ok,
  621. -03:53:36- (Edith) so let me guess your next move
  622. -03:53:49- (aish) there is no next move
  623. -03:53:57- (Edith) you will remove all my accesses from all channels that you own
  624. -03:54:06- (aish) nope
  625. -03:54:16- (aish) <aish> then i dont want you to be op in #lounge of #miromiro
  626. -03:54:34- (Edith) you've already demoted me from admin in lounge.
  627. -03:54:51- (aish) like most others
  628. -03:55:07- (aish) /cs access #lounge list
  629. -03:55:08- (Edith) like most others that are not close to you.
  630. -03:55:12- (aish) look for your self
  631. -03:56:03- (aish) there is only 2 at 10
  632. -03:56:19- (Edith) and a lot of people with +qo
  633. -03:56:23- (aish) the rest are upper admins
  634. -03:56:31- (Edith) yes, naturally.
  635. -03:56:34- (aish) there is no one with +q0
  636. -03:56:39- (aish) only me
  637. -03:56:46- (aish) i am the only +q there
  638. -03:56:48- (Edith) err +ao
  639. -03:57:01- (aish) there is only 2 who are not ircops
  640. -03:57:06- (aish) azi and garret
  641. -03:57:22- (Edith) who are your best friends that you knew for over 10 years.
  642. -03:57:27- (Edith) if I remember right.
  643. -03:57:49- (aish) well your wrong there
  644. -03:58:06- (aish) so anyways
  645. -03:58:06- (Edith) I know you knew azi for a long time
  646. -03:58:19- (aish) yes
  647. -03:58:19- (Edith) that's what you told me in a past argument.
  648. -03:58:24- (aish) no
  649. -03:58:33- (aish) thats what i told you when you said how much you sidliked her
  650. -03:58:47- (aish) edith is this an argument to you?
  651. -03:58:57- (Edith) no it's clarification.
  652. -03:59:04- (Edith) in a raw form
  653. -03:59:24- (aish) well about access it was not just you that went down iu the lost
  654. -03:59:27- (aish) list
  655. -04:00:15- (aish) there is 1 500 on that list
  656. -04:00:19- (aish) and the rest 9999
  657. -04:00:27- (Edith) and I've checked before
  658. -04:00:39- (Edith) I was also at 500 as wel as lexi after you rebuilt the list.
  659. -04:00:51- (Edith) in any case
  660. -04:00:54- (aish) and now its changed
  661. -04:01:01- (Edith) yeah not sure why
  662. -04:01:12- (aish) because i thought it best to have it this way
  663. -04:01:22- (Edith) I hope it's not one of those relationship status changes though.
  664. -04:01:36- (aish) its a channel access list
  665. -04:01:38- (aish) thats all
  666. -04:01:45- (aish) i am making it more even
  667. -04:01:45- (Edith) because I really don't like it when people bypass logic and base decigions on emotions.
  668. -04:02:03- (aish) hoping that will makes things less likely to be about kicking and baning other ops
  669. -04:02:33- (Edith) gah this is still a bit confusing.
  670. -04:02:42- (aish) what is?
  671. -04:02:45- (Edith) but.. I'm glad you still consider me worthy as a freind.
  672. -04:02:48- (aish) get it all out now
  673. -04:03:06- (Edith) be it small-ish kindking friendship.
  674. -04:03:23- (Edith) but still I'm glad you feel like you can somewhat rely on me.
  675. -04:03:28- (aish) i dont know what that means
  676. -04:03:50- (Edith) befroe I thought we had a good friendhsip
  677. -04:03:53- (aish) i offered you help op because i thought you would like to be a part of the net and thats what i wanted
  678. -04:04:02- (aish) i think we do if we can tlak like this
  679. -04:04:02- (Edith) and lately I've been feeling liek the firendship is just lessening
  680. -04:04:11- (aish) where as unlike me and lexi i just tlel her to fuck off
  681. -04:04:15- (Edith) and that your patience for what I try to do, regardless of my reasons, is wearing thin.
  682. -04:04:36- (Edith) I don't understand why.
  683. -04:04:42- (aish) well hoping for change is not as good as making change
  684. -04:04:45- (Edith) but whatever, i don't want to get into that
  685. -04:05:27- (Edith) this is a friendship conversation?
  686. -04:05:46- (Edith) feels more like a court case or a business conversation.
  687. -04:05:59- (aish) edith beleive me if i didint like our frinedship i would not be here talking
  688. -04:06:02- (Edith) guess me being in such a shitty depressed modd it doesn't help.
  689. -04:06:18- (aish) because i wouldent care enough to talk this long
  690. -04:06:29- (Edith) so... you.. do care about me
  691. -04:06:35- (aish) yes of corse
  692. -04:06:39- • Edith hugs
  693. -04:06:42- • aish hugs
  694. -04:06:56- (aish) thats why we can tlak like this
  695. -04:07:00- (aish) talk
  696. -04:07:11- (aish) but it dont stop me getting mad'
  697. -04:07:27- (Edith) yeah
  698. -04:07:34- (Edith) especially not this conversation.
  699. -04:07:36- (aish) becasue i always say what i think
  700. -04:07:51- (Edith) I censor myself a hell of a lot.
  701. -04:07:55- (aish) and i did get very upset when i come back to that log
  702. -04:07:57- (Edith) believe it or nor lols.
  703. -04:08:02- (aish) yeah
  704. -04:08:04- (aish) i am sure
  705. -04:08:36- • Edith sighs.
  706. -04:08:45- (aish) i just got to gte away
  707. -04:08:47- (Edith) well I'm overdue on crying myself to sleep tonight.
  708. -04:08:53- (aish) i cant wait to get to switzerland
  709. -04:09:12- (Edith) you really do need to get on vacation.
  710. -04:09:18- (Edith) you do too much work as it is.
  711. -04:09:24- (aish) yeah and 3 months there will do it
  712. -04:09:27- (Edith) and with teh flu, and drama blah.
  713. -04:09:35- (Edith) three monts?!!?!
  714. -04:09:35- (aish) and my business here
  715. -04:09:41- (Edith) No wonder.
  716. -04:09:42- (aish) yes
  717. -04:09:44- (aish) 90 days
  718. -04:09:53- (aish) i have a business here at my house
  719. -04:10:05- (aish) and i usualy start work every day at 4 am
  720. -04:10:11- (aish) woprk till 9 am most days
  721. -04:10:15- (Edith) and I bet that strains on your nerves.
  722. -04:10:23- (Edith) say sleep after that.
  723. -04:10:23- (aish) i breed fish
  724. -04:10:32- (Edith) d[o_O]b
  725. -04:10:45- (Edith) well next time I eat sushy I'll be thinking of you! :D
  726. -04:10:52- (aish) im agriculturist
  727. -04:10:57- (aish) brtb
  728. -04:11:03- (Edith) hun I'mg onna go
  729. -04:11:11- (Edith) Thanks for talkin and all.
  730. -04:12:11- (Edith) Sorry if I got out of hand, but it's... kindof how I am. Moreso now since i'm in a really bad place in my life. Oh well. I'm glad we are still friends.
  731. -04:12:13- (Edith) night
  732. -04:20:21- (aish) nite
  733. -04:27:13- º¹¹º Nick» (aish) is now known as (aish[a])
  734. -04:56:56- (aish[a]) sorry edith but i need you to not be op in #miromiro .. sorry
  735. -04:57:24- (aish[a]) i understand the giy with the drug nick
  736. -04:57:37- (aish[a]) but telling Jennie_Blaze she had to be in other chans was a bit much
  737. -04:57:40- (aish[a]) we will tlak more
  738. -04:57:43- (aish[a]) *hugs*
  739. -04:57:54- (aish[a]) it will be best
  740. Session Close: Wed Apr 14 05:26:35 2010
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