1993 LGPS US GP commentary

18:15:29: <EvilKlon> RMC?
18:15:41: <PastaM> LGPS
18:15:47: <EvilKlon> neato
18:16:03: <RMCFeed> we're here at the sunny Road America circuit near Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin
18:17:02: <RMCFeed> for the Life United States Grand Prix, the fifth round of the 1993 season
18:17:32: <RMCFeed> 35 cars will start the race, which should give us plenty of action
18:18:07: <RMCFeed> the temperature is 18 degrees Celsius, with the track temperature being 27
18:18:34: <RMCFeed> current forecasts promise that the race will go through in sunny conditions
18:20:14: <Rated> Aaaaaaaaand 2 stallers bet
18:20:26: <Salamander> 3
18:20:49: <PastaM> Celsius
18:20:58: <PastaM> Because only idiots use Fahrenheit :P
18:21:01: <EvilKlon> 1 staller
18:21:08: <EvilKlon> Pasta pls
18:21:15: <RMCFeed> because this is the European feed :P
18:21:23: <EvilKlon> Brits should really know better than to call murricans idiots
18:21:25: <PastaM> Who uses Fahrenheit here?
18:21:27: <EvilKlon> clean before your own door
18:21:49: <EvilKlon> What's with PC surveillance state, chav culture etc etc :P
18:22:11: <Salamander> nobody who has any sense uses fahrenheit
18:22:18: <Salamander> fahrenheit is based on moon logic
18:22:27: <Salamander> celsius is based on actual logic
18:23:24: <EvilKlon> the same logic fahrenheit is based on :p
18:23:35: <RMCFeed> one light
18:23:37: <EvilKlon> the freezing point of a certain material
18:23:38: <RMCFeed> two lights
18:23:41: <RMCFeed> three lights
18:23:44: <RMCFeed> four lights
18:23:48: <RMCFeed> five lights
18:23:49: <seedstriker> 2 stalls
18:23:59: <RMCFeed> AND THEY'RE OFF!
18:24:24: <RMCFeed> Sunset immediatedly challenges Voeckler
18:24:33: <Salamander> celsius is based on the freezing and boiling point of water
18:24:42: <Salamander> 0 = freeze, 100 = boil
18:24:47: <RMCFeed> they come side by side into the first corner... and Sunset comes on top!
18:25:31: <EvilKlon> and fahrenheit is based on the freezing point of brine
18:26:00: <Salamander> fahrenheit is based on the freezing point of brine (0), the freezing point of water (32), and the temperature of the body (96)
18:26:10: <Salamander> now, i have no problem with those reference points
18:26:21: <Salamander> i have a problem with the ridiculous figures he used
18:26:27: <Salamander> 32 and 96?
18:26:42: <TheDutchBear> Hey guys, had some trouble with my internet. Spend one hour squeezing two little wires together, extremely tricky and frustrating.
18:27:36: <seedstriker> How many stalled?
18:30:04: <PastaM> Salamander the freezing point of water is 32 degrees F, and the boiling point is 212 degrees F
18:30:10: <PastaM> Difference between them is 180
18:30:24: <PastaM> Which was considered easy to work with, apparently
18:30:31: <RMCFeed> Generic, Mori and Kjellerup stall
18:30:53: <RMCFeed> Douglas hit's Mori's car hard enough to retire on the spot as well
18:30:57: <RMCFeed> hits*
18:30:59: <Salamander> yeah but the boiling point wasnt used as a reference when coming up with the original scale
18:31:16: <RMCFeed> AND THERE'S LOTS OF ACTION IN THE FIRST CORNER!
18:31:28: <Salamander> called it, 3 stallers :D
18:31:43: <PastaM> AND VOECKLER LEADS?
18:31:46: <RMCFeed> Richard Arthurs swipes Fernandez out from the race and retires soon afterwards with an engine failure
18:31:50: <PastaM> OR VAN DER MAEYEDE?
18:31:56: <Salamander> nah, sunset :D
18:32:05: <TheDutchBear> Come on Arnason!
18:32:17: <RMCFeed> and Jericho comes from the back and takes out both McMohan, Zaugg and himself!
18:32:39: <RMCFeed> terrible day for the Hunter cars, both taken out in the first corner
18:33:01: <RMCFeed> Arnason's car stops just after the first corner as well!
18:33:33: <RMCFeed> nine cars out and we haven't even finished the first lap yet
18:33:59: <RMCFeed> ten, in fact
18:34:27: <TheDutchBear> At least he made the field *sigh*
18:34:43: <FMecha> What is Mancini doing? Poor Alden, DNPQing in his home race...
18:34:49: <RMCFeed> and Blog already has a gearbox problem
18:35:09: <RMCFeed> Mancini is 25th and last at the moment
18:35:23: <RMCFeed> he was stuck behind Arnason's stopped car for a while
18:35:53: <PastaM> Ralf Olden
18:35:54: <RMCFeed> Bell out!
18:36:09: <Salamander> bleh
18:37:10: <RMCFeed> he's having a private barbecue party, the engine blows up on the main straight
18:37:51: <PastaM> Question:
18:38:14: <PastaM> Who is better? Ralf Alden or Arsenio Matarazzo? :P
18:38:22: <RMCFeed> meanwhile Blog decided that crashing out on the pit entry was more spectacular than just pulling over to the pits
18:38:28: <TheDutchBear> Well, earlier I had some time on my hands and went on to crunch some numbers
18:39:02: <RMCFeed> oh my, that's a heavy shunt!
18:39:09: <RMCFeed> what on earth was he playing at?
18:39:26: <RMCFeed> he drove at 180 km/h straight into the tyre barrier!
18:39:30: <Salamander> well, matarazzo couldve scored a point once...
18:39:39: <TheDutchBear> CART Road America 1993 Fastest qualifier Paul Tracy 134.072 mph Slowest qualifier Jeff Wood 120.059 mph
18:39:43: <Salamander> so probably him :p
18:40:34: <RMCFeed> looks like Blog is in agony, he's not out from the car yet
18:40:49: <TheDutchBear> LGPS Road America 1993 Fastest qualifier Jeremy-Etienne Voecker 122.000 mph Slowest qualifier Sam Winton 107.341 mph
18:40:49: <PastaM> He might want to update us via his blog
18:40:57: <Salamander> lol
18:40:58: <PastaM> had they been invented yet :P
18:41:07: <Salamander> probably not :p
18:41:29: <PastaM> wait...
18:41:32: <RMCFeed> while we're keeping another eye on that, the race is still proceeding elsewhere
18:41:48: <PastaM> Foster's Good Call would have qualified for a CART race, in a Life? :D
18:41:56: <TheDutchBear> Conclusion: Jeremy-Etienne Voeckler in a Life L90 is faster than Jeff Wood in a Lola T9100. I'm amazed
18:42:58: <RMCFeed> Kim Jong-Sung's car fails into Turn 7
18:44:45: <PastaM> TheDutchBear - what was the slowest qualifying time for the 1992 CART race at Mid-Ohio?
18:44:50: <RMCFeed> after two laps, Vic Sunset leads, .378s ahead of J-E Voeckler, 1.259s ahead of Jose Braggia and 1.533s ahead of Jan van der Maeyede
18:44:55: <PastaM> And how fast was the Life pole?
18:45:48: <RMCFeed> but VDM takes 3rd from Braggia in the first corner!
18:46:13: <TheDutchBear> PastaM I'm gonna have a look at that. In fact, JEV would have outqualified Buddy Lazier as well.
18:46:43: <Salamander> vdm :D
18:46:53: <FasterThanBuddyLazier> Wooo!
18:47:02: <FasterThanBuddyLazier> Jan the man is on it
18:47:14: <RMCFeed> Blog has now been moved on a stretcher, he's conscious but unless I'm mistaken that's blood on his legs!
18:48:30: <FMecha> Haaaa
18:48:59: <Salamander> :/
18:49:10: <RMCFeed> Tenpecost is stuck in 5th gear
18:49:16: <FasterThanBuddyLazier> Haaaa
18:49:19: <FasterThanBuddyLazier> :P
18:49:57: <RMCFeed> Blog is loaded into an ambulance which heads off to the nearest hospital
18:51:12: <NorthbyNothEastLondoner> Would help if I could spell Londoner :P
18:51:30: <EastLondoner> lel
18:51:33: <RMCFeed> Tenpecost heads into the pitlane to retire, while we have Anker spewing out smoke
18:52:25: <RMCFeed> Sam Sun's gearbox also packs in
18:52:31: <NorthbyNothEastLondoner> He's such a W.Anker....
18:52:51: <RMCFeed> hopefully he's more careful in the pit entry than his team mate...
18:55:18: <RMCFeed> Marky Howard's suspension died as well
18:56:12: <Salamander> pretty high rate of attrition, what lap is it?
18:56:12: <RMCFeed> Sunset and JEV have pulled a couple of seconds' gap to VDM and Braggia
18:56:26: <EastLondoner> Reading Takagi's management game thread.
18:56:31: <Salamander> oh boy
18:56:45: <seedstriker> Were's Stokins?
18:56:45: <EastLondoner> Why did Wizzie have to point out andrew and roblomas's idiocy? :P
18:56:49: <RMCFeed> EastLondoner Christopher Arthurs is currently 6th and Graham 12th
18:56:56: <EastLondoner> Sweet.
18:57:03: <RMCFeed> Stokins 17th
18:57:06: <Salamander> because it was that astonishingly bad
18:58:44: <RMCFeed> Anker's engine gives up
18:59:10: <Salamander> 6.5 million pounds on alonso and raikkonen
18:59:11: <Salamander> in 2000
18:59:18: <RMCFeed> 18 cars remaining in the race, lap 6/25
18:59:23: <Salamander> that was what andrew was going to do :/
18:59:59: <RMCFeed> as we have Jose Braggia stuck in 3rd gear!
19:00:16: <EastLondoner> Nah, let him bankrupt his team I say. :P
19:01:06: <EastLondoner> I wish I'd got a team before them, but I have less free time nowadays. :/
19:01:07: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> Talking of takagi's F1 management
19:01:22: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> What is this bid from roblomas all about? : Giancarlo Fisichella (2.843,927m)
19:01:36: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> Is that 2.843927million?
19:01:45: <Salamander> i believe that is him trying to be funny
19:01:47: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> Or 2,843,927 million?
19:01:48: <Salamander> and failing
19:01:49: <TheDutchBear> PastaM, it seems that the qualifying results of the 1992 CART race at Mid Ohio are unavailable on the internet. Also are the results are mentioned on the broadcast that is on Youtube.
19:01:51: <Salamander> miserably
19:02:08: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> TheDutchBear ah, a shame
19:02:20: <RMCFeed> Braggia's retirement promotes Pieter Kickert to a points-scoring position
19:02:26: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> Salamander It's not like my humour was any better..... :P
19:02:48: <Salamander> yes
19:02:52: <Salamander> it actually was
19:03:10: <RMCFeed> as Graham has overtaken Jose Pablo Mazzacane
19:03:26: <EastLondoner> How many laps to go?
19:03:29: <TheDutchBear> not mentioned on Youtube, I mean
19:03:44: <Pi3141> Oh, LifeGP. Almost missed the race because of the storm in north germany
19:04:09: <RMCFeed> we're on lap 7/25
19:04:20: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> Haaaaang on here.
19:04:29: <WheelyBigCheeseFTW> pi3141 is German??? :O
19:04:35: <RMCFeed> http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/b/b2/Slowpoke.gif
19:04:37: <EastLondoner> There are still massive traffic jams in Ipswich because of the storm closing the main bypass, because of a very high bridge.
19:04:42: <Salamander> slooooooooooooooowpoooooooooooooooooooooooke
19:05:11: <EastLondoner> Orwell Bridge shut, no trains running until the afternoon = chaos. :P
19:05:29: <Pi3141> It took the bus one hour to get from university to the central station.
19:05:30: <RMCFeed> 17 cars remaining
19:05:44: <EvilKlon> WheelyBigCheeseFTW, there is a Pokemon that has something to say to you
19:05:46: <Pi3141> And when I arrived there, I found out that all trains had been cancelled.
19:05:53: <Salamander> shit, over 50% out after 7 laps :O
19:05:57: <EvilKlon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-psIWT39o
19:06:00: <RMCFeed> Sunset and Voeckler are still separated by only .705s
19:06:39: <RMCFeed> well, almost one third of the cars were eliminated in the first lap :P
19:06:43: <PastaM> Hahaha :P
19:06:49: <Salamander> still
19:06:50: <Salamander> :o
19:06:55: <TheDutchBear> That's LGPS for you, Salamander. Reliability is just a fancy word
19:06:57: <EastLondoner> Who caused that?
19:07:02: <Salamander> yeah i am aware
19:07:06: <PastaM> Well, all the other Germans here have given away their nationality :P
19:07:09: <Salamander> ive been in this series since the start :o
19:07:11: <Salamander> :p
19:07:12: <EvilKlon> who cares?
19:07:18: <Pi3141> I see Mazzacane is still in the race. What about Kjellerup.
19:07:18: <EvilKlon> it's not like everyone will retire
19:07:21: <Pi3141> ?
19:07:25: <EvilKlon> we will get four or five finishers
19:07:30: <EvilKlon> and nobody will care :(
19:08:00: <PastaM> How many series have ever seriesed?
19:08:04: <Salamander> ....
19:08:09: <Salamander> .......
19:08:09: <Salamander> what
19:08:14: <EvilKlon> u w0t m8?
19:08:22: <EastLondoner> Whut?
19:08:31: <Salamander> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070420152054/wowwiki/images/2/2b/Emot-psyduck.gif
19:08:53: <RMCFeed> three stallers, Douglas being an idiot as usual, Richard Arthurs taking out Fernandez and retiring with a broken engine after the next corner, Jericho being a massive dick by taking McMohan and Zaugg out along with himself, Arnason's suspension only barely making it past the first corner...
19:08:58: <HawkAussie> Chat link need improvements by some
19:09:02: <Salamander> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070420152054/wowwiki/images/2/2b/Emot-psyduck.gif
19:09:12: <RMCFeed> pi3141 Kjellerup was among the stallers
19:09:13: <EastLondoner> Too much, not enough I say
19:09:22: <Salamander> oh god that one :/
19:09:28: <Salamander> i still have no clue what he meant
19:09:47: <PastaM> No one will ever know, Im afraid
19:10:04: <RMCFeed> oh and Blog's gearbox failing before he crashed heavily at the pit entry
19:10:29: <RMCFeed> there, 11 retirements in the first lap
19:11:20: <RMCFeed> as the remaining Arthurs' car is smoking
19:12:08: <EastLondoner> Fuck
19:12:54: <RMCFeed> Stokins' car dies at about the same spot as Jong-Sung's a few laps earlier
19:13:03: <RMCFeed> looks like a suspension failure
19:14:35: <RMCFeed> VDM's gearbox is stuck in 5th
19:14:43: <RMCFeed> aaaand he retires on the pitlane
19:14:48: <Salamander> dammit
19:14:54: <Salamander> at least sunset is still leading
19:16:10: <PastaM> Ah, crap
19:16:16: <RMCFeed> OAAAARGH!
19:16:25: <PastaM> LifeGP 1993 isnt going to plan
19:17:09: <seedstriker> Damn!
19:19:48: <RMCFeed> Arthurs' engine explodes on the back straight, Kickert has nowhere to go and rear-ends him
19:20:11: <EastLondoner> Cack
19:20:25: <RMCFeed> he escapes with front wing damage but Dave Smith comes from behind and hits Arthurs' wreck at full speed!
19:22:41: <RMCFeed> it seems Smith is OK, most of the impact was absorbed by the front wing and his front left wheel
19:23:38: <PastaM> Steve Smith? :P
19:23:40: <RMCFeed> he's aready out of the car and looking for a ride to a medical checkup, while the trackside medics are attending to Christopher Arthurs
19:23:46: <RMCFeed> already*
19:24:52: <RMCFeed> meanwhile Frederic-Maxime Voeckler's car is on the side of the road
19:25:33: <PastaM> I have two rFAF1 seat time oppurtunities for sale....
19:25:52: <PastaM> A seat for the Japanese Grand Prix and a seat for the US West GP
19:26:00: <PastaM> With the enigma that is Steve Smith
19:26:05: <PastaM> Any takers?
19:26:31: <Salamander> brendon cassidy will take the us west gp seat
19:26:34: <Pi3141> 20-year-old Kazuki Fushida would be interested for Japan.
19:27:03: <PastaM> Okay, I'll mark them down
19:27:20: <PastaM> pi3141 You do realise the rejectful nature of this oppurtunity? :)
19:27:22: <RMCFeed> Mazzacane has spun off in the first corner!
19:27:35: <Pi3141> Yes, I do.
19:27:57: <PastaM> Good :D
19:28:07: <RMCFeed> oh no he hasn't!
19:28:14: <RMCFeed> Joe Gaera collided with him
19:28:41: <RMCFeed> both out on the spot
19:28:51: <Salamander> pasta can you post the thruxton test results already? :p
19:28:53: <Pi3141> In AltCart, he was the rejectful replacement for Dan Wheldon, when Wheldon was banned.
19:29:10: <TheDutchBear> How many cars are still running?
19:29:15: <PastaM> Salamander okay, okay :P
19:29:33: <Salamander> 9 cars i think?
19:29:36: <RMCFeed> 10 cars remaining
19:30:20: <EvilKlon> see?
19:30:32: <EvilKlon> cars finishing is guaranteed
19:30:38: <EvilKlon> :|
19:30:43: <RMCFeed> Sunset, JEV, Ramone, van Dycke, Graham, Madunochev, do Nascimento, Karimov, Kickert, Mancini
19:31:03: <RMCFeed> the leaders are on lap 11/25
19:31:11: <RMCFeed> brb
19:31:31: <RMCFeed> commercial break, this is America after all :P
19:31:35: <Salamander> 15 retirements over the last 10 laps
19:39:21: <TheDutchBear> 25 laps is 100 miles at Road America. I suggest we call this race the Life Grand Prix Series presents the Albini & Fontanot Road America 100 powered by Agip
19:40:39: <RMCFeed> the camera switches to Christopher Arthurs, who is now out from his car and giving the crowd a thumbs up
19:40:45: <RMCFeed> looks like he's OK
19:40:51: <EastLondoner> Phew.
19:41:45: <RMCFeed> meanwhile an angry Jose Pablo Mazzacane is chasing Joe Gaera, who barely manages to jump on a track marshall's scooter before the Argentinean catches him
19:41:54: <Salamander> lel
19:42:47: <RMCFeed> Graham retires in the pits, she was stuck in 2nd gear
19:45:16: <RMCFeed> do Nascimento obeys the blue flags and lets Sunset and JEV past her, but is too slow about it and gets overtaken by Karimov as well!
19:46:00: <FantometteBR> oh lord...
19:46:40: <RMCFeed> now she has to hope for a retirement ahead of her to get back in points
19:47:34: <Cynon> ROTY thread.
19:47:43: <RMCFeed> the next retirement, however, is at the very back
19:47:46: <Cynon> and I know it will piss some people off
19:47:47: <RMCFeed> Alessandro Mancini is stuck in second gear
19:47:50: <Cynon> I have an early nomination
19:47:54: <Cynon> THE FANS
19:48:05: <Salamander> i agree
19:48:14: <Salamander> the complaining has been awful this year
19:48:21: <Pi3141> I can completely understand that when you look at the average forum.
19:48:46: <Cynon> The Singapore booing.
19:48:54: <Cynon> All the Pirelli bitching
19:49:02: <Salamander> if its relevant to f1 this year, someone has bitched about it
19:49:09: <PastaM> Max Chilton?
19:49:12: <PastaM> :P
19:49:14: <Cynon> No
19:49:16: <Cynon> Chilton sucked
19:49:19: <TheDutchBear> Understand that completely. The amount of bitching is too damn high!
19:49:21: <Cynon> but I expected him to suck.
19:49:33: <Salamander> but people bitch about him anyway
19:49:44: <Salamander> even though realistically there are no expectations for him
19:50:14: <PastaM> http://www.f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5278&p=271592#p271592
19:50:19: <PastaM> Salamander
19:50:25: <RMCFeed> lap 14/25 started, we're only slightly over halfway through and only eight cars are remaining
19:50:37: <RMCFeed> Cynon interested in commentating this race? :P
19:50:40: <Salamander> thanks :)
19:51:00: <Salamander> i think i can get brendon cassidy a seat for 1981 then
19:51:37: <RMCFeed> Pieter Kickert is chasing Cleide do Nascimento for 7th
19:51:49: <PastaM> Well, he was 7 tenths down because of not being used to the cars
19:51:56: <Cynon> What race?
19:51:59: <Cynon> :o
19:52:12: <PastaM> Generic was 3 seconds off the pace due to this being his first taste of F1 machinery
19:52:13: <Salamander> damn :o
19:52:14: <RMCFeed> 1993 LGPS United States Grand Prix
19:52:18: <RMCFeed> at Road America
19:52:21: <Cynon> :o
19:52:26: <PastaM> Road Murica
19:53:09: <TheDutchBear> 'Murica! F*ck yeah!
19:54:48: <RMCFeed> the order is Sunset, JEV, Ramone, van Dycke, Madunochev, Karimov, do Nasimento and Kickert
19:54:48: <Cynon> F1 fans should never
19:54:50: <Cynon> ever
19:54:53: <Cynon> give this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxngk_w3rXA
19:55:06: <Cynon> ... well, make him look reasonable.
19:55:15: <Cynon> Vic Sunset?
19:55:18: <Cynon> Seriously? XD
19:55:22: <Salamander> yep
19:55:24: <Cynon> I'll have to try not to call him Strip.
19:55:27: <RMCFeed> the only battles are for positions 1-2 and 6-8
19:55:40: <Salamander> i gave him a ton of race performance upgrades :D
19:55:49: <Cynon> Or say that "moment by moment the leaders are pullinh away from Strip". :P
19:55:51: <Salamander> hes now a legit title contender
19:55:54: <RMCFeed> other gaps are too long for anything to happen, apart from a retirement of course
19:55:54: <Cynon> pulling*
19:56:17: <Cynon> Vic Sunset is the name of John Travolta's character in Moment by Moment.
19:56:38: <Salamander> :D
19:57:27: <RMCFeed> Mikhail Karimov is stuck in first gear!
19:57:46: <Salamander> ha
19:57:52: <PastaM> ke
19:57:54: <PastaM> lel
19:58:14: <RMCFeed> that promotes do Nascimento back on points, although she's still chased by Kickert
19:58:29: <PastaM> Aixata - did you ever get around to that spotters guide thing you bandied around the other month?
19:59:22: <PastaM> Oh God, roblomas being boring in the Ruined Dreams thread :/
19:59:40: <PastaM> Has anyone else noticed how he messed up the quote codes in his sig as well? :P
20:00:12: <RMCFeed> Sunset and JEV start lap 17/25
20:00:29: <RMCFeed> with only half a second separating them
20:00:41: <Salamander> theyve been nose to tail all race
20:00:50: <RMCFeed> yep
20:00:51: <Salamander> but sunset has been awesome in holding jev off :D
20:00:56: <Ferrarist> "Gurney's popularity caused Car and Driver magazine to promote the idea of him running for president of the United States in 1964. This effort was abandoned only when it was "discovered" that Gurney was too young to qualify as a candidate for President. The campaign is periodically resurrected (usually every four years) by his friends and fans."
20:01:04: <Ferrarist> What? :o
20:01:07: <Aixata> Wizzie never sent me the bits for it; I probably should badger him for them
20:01:15: <PastaM> Yes.
20:01:20: <Ferrarist> "Gurney/Andretti '16" :D
20:01:20: <PastaM> Yes you should
20:01:24: <PastaM> Graphics are fun :D
20:01:48: <RMCFeed> it has almost been as if Sunset was towing JEV around the track, that's how small their difference has been for all race
20:01:48: <Aixata> I've got the liveries you and I have done, I just need Wizzies
20:02:15: <RMCFeed> AND THE BATTLE ENDS IN A CAR FAILURE FOR JEV!
20:02:21: <Cynon> http://www.f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=271598#p271598
20:02:22: <Cynon> :D
20:02:25: <Cynon> HAVE FUN.
20:03:05: <PastaM> Aixata Conveniently, the stars have aligned in such a way to make on thing, and one thing only, a viable and correct outcome: #blamewizzie
20:03:58: <RMCFeed> maybe he cooked his brakes for all that driving behind Sunset
20:04:04: <RMCFeed> nope
20:04:11: <RMCFeed> rear right suspension failure
20:04:54: <PastaM> OH NOES :(
20:04:55: <PastaM> FECK
20:05:17: <Salamander> come on vic, just cruise on home now
20:05:41: <RMCFeed> Sunset can breathe more easily now, he's over a minute ahead of Ramone in second
20:06:13: <PastaM> And then he can drive off into the Sunset
20:06:51: <Ferrarist> Here you are Cynon: http://www.f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6512&p=271600#p271600
20:07:25: <RMCFeed> all remaining cars will score points
20:07:54: <RMCFeed> the current order is Sunset, Ramone, van Dycke, Madunochev, do Nascimento, Kickert
20:08:10: <RMCFeed> Sunset is on lap 18/25
20:08:34: <Cynon> FERRARIST
20:08:35: <Cynon> YOU FAILED
20:08:41: <Cynon> You are supposed to ruin the dream
20:08:43: <Cynon> Instead
20:08:50: <Cynon> you did EXACTLY what I was hoping for
20:08:52: <Cynon> :P
20:09:10: <Ferrarist> What? Ruining open-wheel racing in Europe?
20:09:35: <Cynon> Not so much that
20:09:43: <Cynon> but seeing pay drivers dominate F1 and DTM on the rise
20:12:48: <EvilKlon> DTM on the rise
20:12:51: <EvilKlon> ... :/
20:12:54: <EvilKlon> will never happen
20:12:55: <RMCFeed> Kickert is wasting a lot of time ignoring blue flags and not letting Ramone past, thus allowing do Nascimento to pull a gap
20:12:56: <EvilKlon> sadly
20:13:25: <Ferrarist> They should hire me as the head of the ITR. I know what I'm doing :D
20:14:01: <EvilKlon> no you don't
20:14:17: <Ferrarist> Come on, you didn't even give me a chance to express my ideas.
20:14:17: <EvilKlon> you'd turn it into an awful S2000 series
20:14:26: <Ferrarist> No I wouldn't.
20:14:29: <EvilKlon> I have seen the DTM Chairman game
20:14:47: <Ferrarist> DTM Chairman game? You mean my aborted attempt at a DTM series?
20:14:55: <EvilKlon> aye
20:15:03: <RMCFeed> five laps to go
20:15:04: <Ferrarist> Don't blame me, blame KL-Racer :D
20:15:09: <Salamander> yeah
20:15:13: <Salamander> he did an awful job
20:15:16: <EvilKlon> well, your start wasn't much more glorious :P
20:15:17: <Salamander> at least, the first season
20:15:46: <Ferrarist> I agree that this series wasn't thought out well.
20:16:11: <TheDutchBear> Ferrarist, is the Averting the Split series going to continue or is it as CART, dead namely?
20:16:23: <RMCFeed> do Nascimento wastes so much time blocking van Dycke that Kickert gets past her
20:16:28: <Ferrarist> Oy, I have forgotten about that :D
20:16:50: <Ferrarist> I think Nazareth and the Indy 500 are next, right? Well, if I find some time, I'll run it at least to the Indy 500.
20:17:21: <TheDutchBear> I liked that series, wouldn't mind to see it continue.
20:17:49: <Ferrarist> Anyway, what I'd do to improve the DTM:
20:17:59: <RMCFeed> yeah but not until you catch up with the current calendar in F1RICS :P
20:18:01: <Ferrarist> 1) A new race format. Either we do a long 200km race or 2x100km.
20:18:20: <Ferrarist> RMCFeed: Relax. I'm on my way ;)
20:18:48: <Ferrarist> 2) Get rid off the mandatory pit stops. If you want to see mechanically moving men, go watch a concert by Kraftwerk.
20:19:15: <EvilKlon> 1) is good - 2) is fair enough
20:20:08: <Ferrarist> 3) Cut at least on German race. Either Lausitzring or Oschersleben. In fact, the three east German tracks could alternate with each other.
20:20:10: <Ferrarist> *one
20:20:20: <EvilKlon> huh?
20:20:22: <RMCFeed> Madunochev stuck in fifth gear
20:20:36: <Ferrarist> 4) The first Hockenheim race should just use the short variant, making it more special when DTM runs the GP variant at the season finale.
20:20:53: <EvilKlon> sounds like a solid idea
20:21:04: <Ferrarist> EvilKlon: What I meant to say is, is that East Germany will just have one DTM race. The venue will switch between Oschersleben, Lausitzring and Sachsenring.
20:21:29: <Ferrarist> 5) More, many more races in Europe. If German racing fans don't like it...well, they could watch ADAC GT Masters then :p
20:22:28: <Ferrarist> 6) Try to get DTM into as many free TV channels in Europe as possible. DTM can't grow if it's stuck on pay TV in most of Europe.
20:22:41: <RMCFeed> and he retires in the pits, he still gets a point for making it into the last six cars
20:23:08: <RMCFeed> Vic Sunset starts the penultimate lap of the race
20:23:26: <EvilKlon> Ferrarist, I know what you mean - I just think it's stupid :p
20:23:40: <Ferrarist> 7) Force the manufacturers to spend more money on DTM. DTM should have the purpose to showcase the manufacturer's high-tech equipment. If they just want to market their brands...well, GT Masters :p
20:23:50: <Cynon> ....
20:23:54: <Cynon> AUUUGGH MOTHERFUCKER
20:23:59: <Cynon> Liquid posted 1 second before I did
20:24:06: <Cynon> D:<
20:24:18: <Salamander> serves you right, you did the same to me last night :p
20:24:30: <Cynon> Well
20:24:39: <Cynon> Antonio Pizzonia wins a Grand Prix.
20:24:47: <Cynon> ... is followed by...
20:24:51: <Cynon> Then he wakes up.
20:24:53: <Cynon> or what I put
20:24:58: <Cynon> Despite beating Mark Webber fairly, it is still written off as "Webber's bad luck".
20:25:27: <Salamander> yeah...
20:25:28: <RMCFeed> last lap, can Sunset make it three wins in a row?
20:25:34: <Salamander> pls
20:25:34: <Cynon> Not sure which is better XD
20:25:36: <Ferrarist> EvilKlon, in order to make DTM more European, one German round has to go. In order to appease eastern Germany, all three tracks will get the chance to host a DTM race every three years.
20:25:37: <Cynon> O well
20:25:46: <EvilKlon> but most of your ideas are actually good Ferrarist
20:26:28: <Ferrarist> Tradition is all and well, but did NASCAR think of that when they abandoned Rockingham, NC? Especially with the much more popular Charlotte Motor Speedway just being a mile and a half away from that?
20:26:44: <RMCFeed> half a lap left
20:26:47: <EvilKlon> I would only change a few things
20:27:00: <Cynon> Rockingham was dropped because Bruton Smith wanted dates elsewhere
20:27:06: <EvilKlon> a) Change the friggin' stewards. A race with no winner? That's the dumbest thing ever
20:27:14: <Salamander> ^
20:27:15: <Ferrarist> 8) Force the manufacturers to spend money on big name drivers...although there aren't many big names available, as most people would still prefer F1. :/
20:27:15: <Cynon> and because the date Rockingham had was freezing-ass cold in February.
20:27:26: <EvilKlon> that would be my b)
20:27:30: <EvilKlon> DTM needs famous people
20:27:36: <Salamander> indeed
20:27:41: <RMCFeed> last corner
20:27:44: <Cynon> Susie Wolff
20:27:47: <Salamander> nobody i know of cares about mike rockenfeller
20:27:55: <Cynon> for all the shit she gets (deserved or not)
20:28:02: <Cynon> I at least know who she is. :P
20:28:06: <EvilKlon> Nobody cares if they perform like shit, if they only perform good once or twice it's still neat enough
20:28:06: <Ferrarist> Cynon: Wasn't it, because Rockingham wasn't attended well? At least that's what TV Tropes says :D
20:28:11: <Cynon> Yes
20:28:12: <RMCFeed> AND VIC SUNSET CLAIMS HIS THIRD WIN IN A ROW!
20:28:15: <Salamander> :D
20:28:17: <Cynon> but the attendance was because it was cold as hell
20:28:24: <Ferrarist> Ralf Schumacher was also well known...and he sucked anyway :D
20:28:24: <Cynon> in North Carolina that time of year.
20:28:26: <EvilKlon> I mean Norisring 2010 had the best TV ratings in a while
20:28:32: <Ferrarist> Oh, I forgot something:
20:28:44: <EvilKlon> but obviously that would have to go the other way around
20:28:53: <Ferrarist> 9) MOAR POWER! In fact, Tim Taylor (I know he's fictional) should be named chief mechanic of DTM :D
20:28:55: <EvilKlon> have DTM drivers who aren't famous already EVERYWHERE
20:28:58: <RMCFeed> Cleide do Nascimento finishes fifth, two laps down
20:28:59: <Ferrarist> 10) Less grip
20:29:17: <EvilKlon> shitty game shows, shitty movies, shitty ads - we need the names out there
20:29:34: <Cynon> http://www.brawlcustommusic.com/game/2090
20:29:54: <Ferrarist> 11) Launch big marketing campaigns all over Europe. Even if people are asking "What the fuck is DTM?" or "Can I eat DTM?", at least people will talk about DTM.
20:30:08: <EvilKlon> indeed
20:30:17: <Cynon> A US TV deal might work. :P
20:30:24: <Ferrarist> ^ This
20:30:29: <Cynon> DTM isn't broadcast on any network I know of
20:30:33: <Ferrarist> But who will carry DTM? ESPN? HAH!
20:30:52: <Ferrarist> Fox Sports? Well, they'd surely pick up everything to fill their schedule, but DTM ain't NASCAR :p
20:30:57: <EvilKlon> and from a more sportive point: we need a German Championship within the DTM (see the Italian ... Supercars? ... series)
20:30:58: <RMCFeed> Danny Ramone takes second, ahead of Gio van Dycke in third
20:31:06: <Ferrarist> NBC Sports? Forget it, they can't even push the series they already have on their schedule.
20:31:09: <EvilKlon> where the German race and that race in China count
20:31:18: <Ferrarist> EvilKlon: I disagree. It'll just confuse people.
20:31:19: <RMCFeed> Pieter Kickert is fourth, a lap down
20:31:42: <RMCFeed> and Pjotr Madunochev is classified sixth
20:32:00: <EvilKlon> it may - but it would also add legitimacy with the smarks
20:32:21: <Ferrarist> Screw them!
20:32:21: <Cynon> Ferraris
20:32:22: <Cynon> t
20:32:28: <Cynon> How shit has Joey Hand been?
20:32:36: <EvilKlon> better than Glock
20:32:40: <Cynon> I've only seen like 2 races because they air at a terrible time.
20:32:43: <Ferrarist> He had a decent start into season, but he want steadily to the back.
20:32:57: <Glock_Blows> yes, he does
20:33:38: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Yeah, that'll show him 8)
20:33:41: <Cynon> XD
20:33:49: <Salamander> jesus christ priaulx was awful :(
20:33:50: <Cynon> Wait huh
20:33:55: <Glock_Blows> yep
20:33:57: <Cynon> Tomczyk
20:34:00: <Salamander> come back to btcc andy :(
20:34:03: <Cynon> didn't he win the title 2 years ago? >_>
20:34:03: <Glock_Blows> if Glock blows, Priaulx sucks even harder
20:34:20: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Salamander: He had a decent race at Hockenheim, because he switched the brake pedal to the right. Might be too late though...
20:34:20: <Glock_Blows> yep - and then immediately went to BMW
20:34:27: <Glock_Blows> that disloyal piece of shit
20:34:27: <BringBackWCW> Priaulx needs to win the BTCC.
20:34:35: <Cynon> .... ;o
20:34:46: <Glock_Blows> but karma is a bitch after all
20:34:53: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Priaulx needs to win the DTM, so he more or less unify the most important championships in tin-tops.
20:35:00: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Yeah, DTM cars still have tin-tops.
20:35:05: <Glock_Blows> >Priaulx
20:35:09: <Glock_Blows> >Winning DTM
20:35:11: <Glock_Blows> top lel
20:35:52: <Salamander> uh, how will he have done that?
20:35:57: <Salamander> hes only won wtcc
20:35:57: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Well, I feel like a NASCAR fan who doesn't want to connect with the Jeff Gordons or Jimmie Johnsons. He wants the Dale Earnhardts or Ricky Rudds.
20:36:08: <Klon_Is_Dumb> BTCC ain't important :p
20:36:26: <Salamander> yeah, and v8 supercars and nascar aint either then?
20:36:40: <Glock_Blows> >implying BTCC is on the same level as NASCAR
20:36:42: <Klon_Is_Dumb> NASCAR's roofs aren't made of tin :p
20:36:57: <SarfLandana> Still better than WTCC
20:37:04: <Cynon> Lol WTCC
20:37:05: <Salamander> yep
20:37:10: <Cynon> The worst World Championship ever
20:37:14: <Glock_Blows> true
20:37:16: <Klon_Is_Dumb> WTCC at least gets decent cars for next year.
20:37:19: <RMCFeed> http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/Nuppiz/F1C/93USA_zps38052945.jpg
20:37:24: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Or even more decent cars, as I liked the S2000 cars.
20:37:26: <Cynon> Do they have over 100 horsepower?
20:37:34: <SarfLandana> CITROENWINSLOL
20:37:35: <Klon_Is_Dumb> 320 at the moment.
20:37:45: <Cynon> Really? Looked like they had about 10.
20:37:52: <SarfLandana> Which is why I want Tarquini to win it.
20:37:57: <SarfLandana> again
20:38:00: <Klon_Is_Dumb> SarfLandana: Some people (mainly Motorsport-Total) speculate that WTCC might become LADAWINSLOL...lol :p
20:38:25: <Cynon> FOR MOTHER RUSSIA
20:38:29: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Cynon: Has NASCAR more than 100 horsepower? On road courses they look like a whale out of water. :p
20:38:37: <Cynon> No they don't
20:38:44: <Cynon> They look like fat kids on an obstacle course
20:38:57: <Cynon> Silly Klon
20:39:09: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Wait! I'm just Klon's Klon :p
20:39:13: <Klon_Is_Dumb> Argh, forget it:
20:39:18: <Cynon> They can move, just not very well and when they trip over each other
20:39:24: <Cynon> it's hilarious
20:39:32: <Cynon> because they're butterballs
20:39:46: <SarfLandana> Car of Tomorrow?
20:39:51: <Cynon> Yeah
20:40:22: <Ferrarist> Can't we just resurrect Dale Earnhardt? I mean Jesus also rose from the death.
20:40:42: <Cynon> URNHART
20:41:36: <RMCFeed> Fastest lap: Jan van der Maeyede, 2:06.346 on lap 3
20:41:42: <RMCFeed> ROTR: Charles Jericho