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* Topic for #3dsdev set by profi200!~profi200@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acde:1 (Wed Dec 30 09:57:11 2015)
<profi200> lol
<Cruel`> also wtf togepi, wasn't even an official pokemon until a long time after it was introduced on the show
<crediar> cheating devices were fun back then, also had one for n64
<Cruel`> ya, I got gameshark for ps1
<Cruel`> almost exclusively for ff7 after finding out about debug room
<profi200> After you beat a game the first time it's surely fun to mess with the game. Walk through walls and such.
<profi200> Would never use cheats on first play. That destroys the gameplay.
<crediar> I used a few for skyward sword
<Cruel`> I used cheats on ff7 after breating it just to see what it was like to have all crazy materia
<Cruel`> all mastered, rather not grind on jrpgs
<crediar> basically all Fii notifications off, msg on new found item off, unlimited sprint, unlimited health (didn't want to die due failing controls)
<Cruel`> or super smash bros cheat to unlock master hand, that was a good one
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<profi200> Offline anyone can do what he wants. Cheating to win online is just bad.
<crediar> cheating online shouldn't even work
<profi200> Unfortunately it does :|
<Cruel`> all games used to have some sort of "big head mode" lol
<Cruel`> not the most useful trend
<julian20> cheating in mk7 online works
<julian20> ...
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<ab173> Of course it's p2p, if I remember well
<ab173> No server check
<crediar> even though
<crediar> it should still send the item fired to the server
<signz> [21:24:31] <Cruel`> all games used to have some sort of "big head mode" lol < hah, I loved those
<crediar> wouldn't slow anything down and will prevent cheating items
<ab173> Yes, it should
<TuxSH> +1
<julian20> if you edit your max speed before the game starts, you will be faster then others...
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<ab173> I just said how it worked, not how it should work
<profi200> Detecting cheats is not easy or game devs don't bother detecting them. At least in smash they did it right.
<Cruel`> ya, even just basic server validation would make online cheating very difficult
<WntrMute> big head mode?
<TuxSH> we're talking about MK7 here, but for some games it might be more complex
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<valiant> I'm trying to figure out what some of you guys presented at CCC last weekend, namely the memchunk stuff. I and a few other people have gotten to the point where we can overwrite the *next pointer of the memchunkheader that's being allocated, but we don't know what the *next and *prev pointers of the crafter header should be. Could someone give us any tips or anything?
<valiant> s/crafter/crafted/
<profi200> valiant: You are on your own with that. Said that to someone else also who asked for help.
<valiant> Welp, too bad.
<valiant> Thanks in any case.
<julian20> yes thanks
<TuxSH> yes
<profi200> For anything other refer to 3dbrew.
<TuxSH> of course that what we always do ;)
<julian20> for all other stuff we look on 3dbrew
<julian20> but that needs testing and ...
<TuxSH> we will do it anyways
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<Cruel`> lol WntrMute, I think big-head mode was a cheat more popular in late 90s, but some games still feature big head modes in their games
<Cruel`> just game characters with huge heads
<profi200> The exploit was not released because the finder knew what people would do with it.
<TuxSH> you mean debugging, and playing online while having homebrew :p ?
<WntrMute> it's only a matter of time until the sploit is released anyway
<julian20> we are working on it
<julian20> with good progress
<profi200> No, downgrading and installing warez.
<WntrMute> TuxSH, you can play online and have homebrew without kernel hax
<profi200> ^
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<julian20> faster emulation of my safecoopies and my own dumped bios of old game consoles
<TuxSH> even when you don't have any way to run homebrew on 10.3 (that was the case not so long ago!)
<profi200> Don't be worried about that. There is enough room to keep hb working. And new entrypoints will surely be discovered.
<ab173> Anyway, about emulators... http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp
<neobrain> your mom is nintendo and talks bs about emulation
<megazig> burn
<TuxSH> about something totally different: how to read the save game of a NDS cartridge which has infrared using ARCHIVE_CARD_SPIFS? Reading the first 512KB doesn't work, while it works for regular cartriges
<profi200> lol
<profi200> TuxSH: That is not discovered yet. You need to look into PokeMover.
<WntrMute> TuxSH, there's a special sequence needed to shift the card from IR mode to savegame mode
<profi200> The ctrtool output is a good start: https://gist.github.com/profi200/1cbe39637197d5dd6c3b
<TuxSH> ty
<TuxSH> that's what I did. What's weird is that PkMover has the "Use Card SPI fs" flag but not the "mount card spi fs" one. Meaning another process mount the archive for PkMover
<WntrMute> I don't think you can send said sequence using ARCHIVE_CARD_SPIFS
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<TuxSH> I'm able to read my Pokémon Platinum save (with FSFILE_Read), but not write it (with FSFILE_Write), existing code and interface: https://github.com/TuxSH/TWLSaveTool
<profi200> There are fs:USER cmds to send commands to the Flash/EEPROM of the gamecard but not sure if PokeMover uses them.
<WntrMute> hmm
<TuxSH> since it the process itself doesn't seem to have all the required privileges. Meaning another process does the work
<profi200> I used the CARDSPI archive too and it is really broken. You can't get the size correctly and writing is broken too.
<plutobot> Wiki | Page changed: Homebrew Applications | User: Cruel | http://3dbrew.org/w/index.php?curid=1655&diff=15097&oldid=15055
<TuxSH> You can't get the size correctly and writing is broken too.
<TuxSH> >>> actually
<TuxSH> the save is repeating itself so you can guess the save file size in most cases
<TuxSH> but writing is broken
<profi200> CARDSPI was not made for NTR cards i guess. With 3DS games writing works.
<TuxSH> weird
<WntrMute> where do you get PokeMover?
<TuxSH> free app to download
<WntrMute> is this an eShop thing?
<TuxSH> but you get to pay to use the servers, i.e to do anything
<profi200> WntrMute: You get it along with Pokemon Bank.
<profi200> From eShop.
<WntrMute> why is the world obsessed with PokeMon anyway?
<TuxSH> Iirc you have to download it separately
<IcySon55> WntrMute: Collecting OCD?
<WntrMute> every Nintendo homebrew scene ever seems to end up being all about the pokeymanz
<TuxSH> >> it has the only app that reads/writes saves from DS cards, that's why
<IcySon55> gotta catch em all~
<WntrMute> also interesting, I take it Pokemon Bank has permissions for reinserting gamecards?
<profi200> That works for every card in 3DS mode.
<TuxSH> arm9 and arm11 permissions to do that, yes. But it seems that it get the card spi archive opened from another process, it's missing the "mount card spi fs" flag
<profi200> Not much people seem to know it but the only hotswap protection they have is a switch in the slot you can easily bridge.
<Remix> If I could just make a suggestion, when you update Menuhax have something to signify that this is a new version your running. Maybe something on the bottom of the screen like "V 3.0 Yellows8 2015"
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<profi200> If you do that you can hotswap in DS mode.
<BlackFurn> how exactly are the __heap_size and __linear_heap_size variables used? are they set or read by the hb launcher?
<yellows8> Remix: I obviously thought of that from the start, but then the user might not always update the bootimage. :/
<TuxSH> while running a DSi/3DS flashcard for example, interesting ... but anyways a save-manager piece of **software that would work on anything with sigpatch would be better
<Remix> Aside from seeing if new features work or not, theres no way of knowing you got the latest. But yeah, I love your default image you have in menuhax.
<yellows8> indeed
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<TuxSH> ^ bc we need extra permissions to read raw data from cards
<WntrMute> default image being the one on the top?
<Remix> RXtools has this same issue too. There is a credits menu but nothing in there about what version it is.
<profi200> BlackFurn: Hardcoded. Or if the code for dynamically allocating mem got merged it's calculated by whats available.
<profi200> yellows8: Print over the image.
<xerpi> gg webkit http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WebKit-2015-Vulnerabilities
<yellows8> "print" you mean in menuhax_manager or what?
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<neobrain> eh, which of CPSR's bits is the "control" field?
<neobrain> (i.e. CPSR_c)
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<WntrMute> yellows8, is it possible to do something with the bottom screen?
<neobrain> geez, found it
<neobrain> "interrupt disable bits, T bit, Mode bits"
<neobrain> bottom eight bit
<yellows8> that's rather pointless with *hax payload colorfilling it almost instantly.
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<profi200> yellows8: If there is enough space embed the version string as tiles and/or Version in the installer.
<BlackFurn> profi200, ah, I see. so I can change the default values to get a bigger/smaller heap and linear heap? for a total of 56mb
<profi200> BlackFurn: https://github.com/smealum/ctrulib/blob/master/libctru/source/system/allocateHeaps.c
<profi200> It's already implemented so dynamically.
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<yellows8> jumping to the splash-screen menu once install finishes might work, but there's plently of other menuhax(_manager) stuff I didn't get around to yet to begin with. :|