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Special request: shellos<set> + torchic<set>

Jul 18th, 2015
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  1. Impossible (Torchic) @ Life Orb
  2. Ability: Speed Boost
  3. Level: 5
  4. EVs: 36 Def / 200 SpA / 36 SpD / 236 Spe
  5. Modest Nature
  6. IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA
  7. - Fire Blast
  8. - Hidden Power [Grass]
  9. - Baton Pass
  10. - Protect
  11.  
  12. Core (Shellos) @ Eviolite
  13. Ability: Sticky Hold
  14. Level: 5
  15. EVs: 228 HP / 132 Def / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
  16. Bold Nature
  17. IVs: 0 Atk
  18. - Recover
  19. - Earth Power/Clear Smog
  20. - Scald
  21. - Stockpile
  22.  
  23. sub core yes (Cottonee) @ Eviolite
  24. Ability: Prankster
  25. Level: 5
  26. EVs: 36 HP / 196 Def / 60 SpA / 196 SpD
  27. Bold Nature
  28. IVs: 0 Atk
  29. - Giga Drain
  30. - Dazzling Gleam
  31. - Encore
  32. - Memento
  33.  
  34. sub core yes (Tirtouga) @ Eviolite
  35. Ability: Solid Rock
  36. Level: 5
  37. EVs: 84 HP / 212 Atk / 12 Def / 76 SpD / 100 Spe
  38. Adamant Nature
  39. - Stone Edge
  40. - Aqua Jet
  41. - Waterfall
  42. - Stealth Rock
  43.  
  44. sub core yes (Croagunk) @ Eviolite
  45. Ability: Dry Skin
  46. Level: 5
  47. EVs: 52 HP / 116 Def / 188 SpA / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
  48. Modest Nature
  49. IVs: 0 Atk
  50. - Vacuum Wave
  51. - Shadow Ball
  52. - Sludge Bomb
  53. - Nasty Plot
  54.  
  55. PURE GLUE (Porygon) @ Eviolite
  56. Ability: Trace
  57. Level: 5
  58. EVs: 156 HP / 124 Def / 160 SpD / 40 Spe
  59. Bold Nature
  60. IVs: 1 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe
  61. - Tri Attack
  62. - Psychic
  63. - Hidden Power [Fighting]
  64. - Recover
  65.  
  66.  
  67. Did you or did you not copy the spread/move pool for shellos from a stall team xD ?
  68. http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/strawberry-stall.3544591/#post-6331009 because that exists and it's decently common,
  69. I might re-do it after a while honestly!
  70.  
  71.  
  72. TORCHIC + shellos isn't a core P_P
  73. it has almost no reason to be a core but ALRIGHT
  74. now why is it not being a core a problem:
  75. Building around 1 poke is a bad form of teambuilding cause most people unawairly centralize the poke, i tryed to not do this and well the first team was more central then a pit of a water drain ,so...
  76. The second team was about the same as this just bad like realy bad and finaly this team and that solved most of the problems:
  77. don't say it's weak to fletchling cause nothign walls fletchling better then a no shelsmash/defencive tirtouga because that poke would literaly be a Evio defencive onix who is outclassed based on use against other pokes anyway >.>
  78. this team is very slightly fight weak defencively but it's a offencive team meaning you need atleats +2 speed for porygon to check fight, croagunk checks all fight types including mienfoo because this poke is special and has no knock off.
  79. finaly cottonee is there even tho it's made to die it can support with dazzlinggleam
  80. yes yes it's very slightly weak against it i can't solve it because that would involve ponyta instead of torchic, and that would remove the compleat challenge of the team because this is one of the hardest but NOT THE hardest team i have ever made(and i am not proud of that last part P_P)
  81.  
  82.  
  83. OK i worked long on this because just as the names suggest the core is impossible, i needed to change somethings up to not be 100% walled/bombed by just 1 highly viable poke!
  84.  
  85. now fight types are a problem defencively to this core. they can however be checked pretty well if done right by example shellos can infactbeat all exept 2 fight types with scald hax, however croagunk/timburr remain, those 2 get countered by clear smog(timburr) and earthpower for croagunk, you can try there realy isn't another option, the only way i could fix the team more would involve: vullaby offencive set with somehow more attack and still useable bulk.
  86.  
  87. Now:
  88. cottonee is needed to increase the succes of torchic+ shellos
  89. cottonee also boosts up the uses of tirtouga(who also wants the speed boost)
  90. croagunk compleats all the weaknesses i couldn't solve in the previous version of the team(compleat shit i worked on for 20 minits)
  91. This team actualy is alright, porygon needed to do multiple things at once so i mixed it up allot, i ended up with bulky version because that's literaly the only version able to relyably do anything even if it's slower!
  92.  
  93. most of this team with all respect i would say it's shit, but it's the bets i could do, and i have no regrets. If the team has flaws what i would douth if it doesn't (any team has flaws but this one has allot and i would give you 20 euro's if anyone could make a team with the 2 pokes in it as you requested THAT WOULD BE VIABLE IN THE CURRENT METAGAME and for that i don't just mean agaisnt randome people on ladder but people like Sage I,SageII, SageIII, SageTest , etc.= that guy)
  94. but i think he would be a slightly to hard opponant for even you to use this team with :/
  95.  
  96. i think the team deals with general problems well both defencively as offencively.
  97.  
  98. the reason why i did that is: if torchic dies you would literaly lose instantly cause nothing on your team can continue >:c
  99. this team can continue even if torchic died.
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